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    Do enting another incredible 911 Terrorist / Pentagon link...

    Dining with the enemy: Al Qaeda leader linked to 9/11 hijackers 'was invited to the Pentagon for lunch after attacks'



    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1AUdIQg15

    Another incredible coincidink?
    he wasn't #1 on the list at the time.

    what exactly is the coincidink?

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    he wasn't #1 on the list at the time.

    what exactly is the coincidink?
    One of many coincidinks (that's a metaphor for weird 9/11 relationships) that the anti-truth crowd likes to disown...

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    One of many coincidinks (that's a metaphor for weird 9/11 relationships) that the anti-truth crowd likes to disown...
    in the article you posted, this was a natural born American that was was interviewed 4 times by the FBI. Apparently there was no evidence of any involvement of anything on his part at that time.

    Again, what exactly is the coincidink? What do you think the ulterior motive was for his being invited to the Pentagon for lunch after the attacks?

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    ...You need to google Anwar al-Awlaki's connections...even if he was just a suspect at the time, what would a guy like this be doing at the Pentagon?

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    ...You need to google Anwar al-Awlaki's connections...even if he was just a suspect at the time, what would a guy like this be doing at the Pentagon?
    I read the article you posted; it stated why he was there.

    did you thoroughly read it?

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    Did you read the article...did you really read the article?

    The Pentagon has yet to offer an explanation as to how one of the world's most wanted men with clear connections to other terrorists could have ended up at a lunch for Muslim reconciliation soon after the attacks.

    Army spokesman Thomas Collins said: 'The Army has found no evidence that the Army either sponsored or participated in the event described in this report'.

    A former high-ranking FBI agent told Fox News that nine years ago when Alwaki went to the Pentagon lunch, there was tremendous 'arrogance' about the screening process and who they allowed in the building.

    'They vetted people politically and showed indifference toward security and intelligence advice of other', the former agent claimed
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    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1AVv6kqRG

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    Did you read the article...did you really read the article?



    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1AVv6kqRG
    In an FBI interview conducted after the Fort Hood shooting in November last year, a Defense Department employee told investigators that she helped to arrange the meeting with Awlaki after seeing him speak in Alexandria, Virgina.
    One of the do ents read that the employee had 'attended this talk and while she arrived late she recalls being impressed by this imam. He condemned Al Qaeda and the terrorists attacks'.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1AYQNHX6D
    If he actually did go, then it was set up by a DoD employee according the report you apparently didn't thoroughly read.

    Why do you think Awlaki was there right after the 9/11 attacks?

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    I went back in and read the report.
    I realize that might sound harsh, but I say it with no acrimony whatsoever.
    I simply think you are wrong. I am willing to give your viewpoint the benefit of the doubt, but you have given me nothing to really hang my hat on.
    You really can't ask for more form a person online these days!

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    Wow, you do get upset when people do not answer your questions.
    Face it we all do at one time or another.

    Take it from me you should at least address most of Chump's replies and make an attempt to respond to his questions. It's good for the debate and it helps others see if you have any legitimate points of view.

    But don't get delusional in thinking your going to shut him up or win the argument. (my advise)


    I am not your pet monkey.
    Oh yes your are!
    Trust me, I got news for you... you may not realize this until its too late but the truth is your just here doing his dirty work.



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    Bump. Cause it seems about the right time to do so.

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    why?

    http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

    In other words, the momentum (which equals mass times velocity) of the 12 to 28 stories (WTC 1 and WTC 2, respectively) falling on the supporting structure below (which was designed to support only the static weight of the floors above and not any dynamic effects due to the downward momentum) so greatly exceeded the strength capacity of the structure below that it (the structure below) was unable to stop or even to slow the falling mass. The downward momentum felt by each successive lower floor was even larger due to the increasing mass.
    From video evidence, significant portions of the cores of both buildings (roughly 60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) are known to have stood 15 to 25 seconds after collapse initiation before they, too, began to collapse. Neither the duration of the seismic records nor video evidence (due to obstruction of view caused by debris clouds) are reliable indicators of the total time it took for each building to collapse completely.
    at RG still pushing the pancake theory even NIST gave up on...

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    why?



    at RG still pushing the pancake theory even NIST gave up on...


    Actually they said just that: the floors started pancaking.

    If you had read the NIST report, you might know that.

    If you want to re-hash the whole controlled demolition thing feel free. You will, once again, be called on to actually read the NIST report. Once again, you won't/haven't. Once again, you will simply have to fall back on bad logic, magic physics, and innuendo.

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    where did all the pulverized concrete come from RG? when they cleaned up the towers there was far less evidence of pancaking than had been theorized...so the mass, velocity and kinetic energy was far less than your assumptions earlier in this thread.......

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    How will you know what to investigate if you don't at least have some hypothesis to use as a starting point to be proven, disproven, or modified?
    Oh, there is plenty to investigate...

    How did the govt completely screw the pooch and let a guy like Atta back into the U.S. in 2001 without the FBI knowing...

    What's with the Atta connections to Huffman Aviation? Or is Hopsicker just blowing our skirts up to sell a book?

    The mainstream media spend more time telling us about Palin than they did researching the team of 19 "lone gunmen" who killed 3,000 of our fellow citizens. Hopsicker reminds us of things that float just below our consciousness. I remember reading that the Bush Administration ordered the FBI to shift focus from 9/11 to the anthrax investigation. What Hopsicker does is remind us that they never returned to that assignment. How come?

    Soon after the attacks, the FBI raided the local police department, seized all the files on the "owner" of the flight school where several of the terrorists trained, and put them directly onto a military plane to Washington, accompanied by Florida Governor Jeb Bush. Where are these files?

    A person named Mohamed Atta was accused of a bus bombing in Israel in the mid-1980s. Even if they were not the same person, wouldn't that have put the name "Mohamed Atta" on some terrorist watch list? A Mohamed Atta is also listed as a graduate of the US International Officers School at Maxwell AFB. The researchers offered to clear up the question for the Pentagon, free of charge, but they were not interested. Assertions from the Pentagon that they were not the same person were not convincing. As many as 7 of the hijackers received training at secure military installations.

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    other things which need to be investigated...

    1. the well do ented e in put options on airline stocks before September 11,
    2001

    2. Fact check: "Muslim fundamentalists" do not eat pork, drink vodka, snort cocaine
    and shag infidel strippers

    3. Did you know that the fellow who owned the flight school had a plane of his seized
    by the DEA within a month of Atta starting school?

    let the investigation begin,,,....

    eh..maybe in Obamas second term...

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    Or is Hopsicker just blowing our skirts up to sell a book?
    Yes, you fool.

    Yes.

    Even the stripper said the stripper was full of .

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    where did all the pulverized concrete come from RG? when they cleaned up the towers there was far less evidence of pancaking than had been theorized...so the mass, velocity and kinetic energy was far less than your assumptions earlier in this thread.......
    I would ask where the evidence of oxidized aluminum is?

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    Why does dan think that pancaking wouldn't produce pulverized concrete?

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    I would ask where the evidence of oxidized aluminum is?
    Well we know for sure its not here vvv



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    Well we know for sure its not here vvv


    Thing is, nobody found any oxidized compounds of aluminum that would be left over from a thermitic reaction.

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    other things which need to be investigated...

    1. the well do ented e in put options on airline stocks before September 11,
    2001

    2. Fact check: "Muslim fundamentalists" do not eat pork, drink vodka, snort cocaine
    and shag infidel strippers

    3. Did you know that the fellow who owned the flight school had a plane of his seized
    by the DEA within a month of Atta starting school?

    let the investigation begin,,,....

    eh..maybe in Obamas second term...
    What exactly did the owner of the flight school get out of it?

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    other things which need to be investigated...

    1. the well do ented e in put options on airline stocks before September 11,
    2001
    Really?

    Snopes: Put Paid
    2. Fact check: "Muslim fundamentalists" do not eat pork, drink vodka, snort cocaine
    and shag infidel strippers
    LOL...

    Religion is an excuse for them to hate. They do plenty of things, like Baptists.

    You've heard the joke about never inviting one Baptist over, right? He will drink all your alcohol. Have to invite two, so they won't drink in front of each other.
    3. Did you know that the fellow who owned the flight school had a plane of his seized
    by the DEA within a month of Atta starting school?

    let the investigation begin,,,....

    eh..maybe in Obamas second term...
    You mean this plane, which he rented out, had no control over what it was used for:



    Oh...

    He was also a Mormon. Does that also mean something in your world?

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    so snopes says the put options thing is "false" because the 9/11 Commission says so...

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    where did all the pulverized concrete come from RG? when they cleaned up the towers there was far less evidence of pancaking than had been theorized...so the mass, velocity and kinetic energy was far less than your assumptions earlier in this thread.......
    The pulverized concrete came from crushing action in the collapse.

    If you are trying to assume that the entire volume of dust was "pulverized concrete", then you have to tell me why you think that none of that dust was pulverized drywall, a material made out of, essentially, dust between layers of fibre.

    You also have to make a lot of other assumptions that turn out to be spurious.

    The "dust" thing has been done to death, here and elsewhere.

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    You mean this plane, which he rented out, had no control over what it was used for:


    Why don't drug-kings think of that? Rent the vehicles your using to import your stash in to peons and no one is the wiser...

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