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Horry got ed...I too do not think he should have been suspended. Nash flopped.
The NBA, car sales, and Chaos Theory
Roy Bragg, SA Express News
The Spurs were once owned by Red McCombs, the city's flashiest car salesman. Before menu pricing ruined it for everybody, car sales were all about capitalism and getting the best deal you possibly can.
But no deal on any car in the history of McCombs' auto-schlepping empire equaled the deal the Spurs got Tuesday.
"Big Tackle Rob" for All-NBA Center Amare Stoudemire and 20-minute-a-game guard Boris Diaw?
Stoudemire and Diaw: vital cogs in the NBA's second-best team.
Horry: An old guy known for play-off heroics, but pretty much taking up space otherwise.
We'll take it. Just sign here so we can take it back and get it approved by the sales manager/league commissioner David Stern.
Let's see if we can make the numbers work
Robert Horry's late foul on Stevie Gash, a.k.a. Steve Nash, which occurred when the outcome of Game 4 was already decided and the Spurs were headed for a miserable and embarrassing come-from-ahead home loss to the Phoenix Suns, was pointless and stupid.
Diaw and Stoudemire, like good teammates, rushed to Nash's defense.
Nash had taken a French head to the nose from Tony Parker in Game 1. He took a Bruce Bowen knee to the 'nads Saturday in Game 2. Nash is the former two-time MVP. He is what makes that team tick. He is their meal ticket.
But when they got up as an altercation was ongoing, they immediately fell victim to the NBA rules to de-thug the league.
Tell me how much you're willing to pay
The rules introduce an organized, yet random element into the proceedings. Logic doesn't really play a part. Rather, there are guidelines and they are enforced, whether they make sense or whether they're fair. As in chaos theory, it introduces all sorts of unpredictability into the proceedings.
You punch a guy, you get a suspension. You rack up a certain number of technical fouls in a season, you get a suspension. Those make sense.
And it you get off off the bench for a fight, you get suspended. It doesn't matter if you fight. This is guilt by the Association. You don't have to punch. It doesn't matter if you're the guy getting punched. Even if you're reading Scripture to calm the waters, the rules say that if you get up, you get hit with a suspension.
I just want to make sure you're happy with your deal
Diaw and Stoudemire are a large chunk of Phoenix' team and without them, the league has inadvertently leveled a playing field that was going to be very hostile to the Spurs.
It'll still be hostile in Phoenix. In fact, there could be riots. But, for the Spurs, it might be easier.
Thank goodness for the NBA, its bizarre rules and its equally uniform -- albeit cruel -- enforcement of them. Thank goodness for Horry -- who peddles cars on television, by the way -- by contributing when he can, even if he's throwing Gash into the scorer's table rather than throwing balls into the bucket. As sports blogger Richard Oliver put it in a text message to me minutes ago:
"Holy cow. That may be the best shot Horry ever hit."
It's a good deal. We'll take it. Shall we write it up?
Horry got ed...I too do not think he should have been suspended. Nash flopped.
Gee Wally, I never thought about it like that. Thanks.
Eh, don't feel like reading through the thread.
Unfortunate? Yes. Unfair? Probably. Consistent? Yes.
As I said yesterday: It's the beginning of a beautiful rivalry.
Uh...let's see the Spurs make a go of it without Tim Duncan, then we'll talk.
And just in case you're disputing Duncan=Amare
regardless of whether you feel that Duncan is the superior player, there's no one on your roster who even comes close to Stoudemire in terms of impact on this series, except Duncan.
Sure, beav!
hmmmm, i didn't notice, guess the spurstalk meltdown of 2006 blinded me, the numerous threads about officiating hid the dirty mavs fans smack well...lol, j/k, i don't think i talked smack so i can't imagine what they were saying but it can't be any different than the way some spurs fans are reacting to the mavs and suns this year now that they have the upper hand
Doubtful that anything like that is going to happen. Nash wasn't injured on the play. The worst-case scenario is that Horry committed a frustration foul, and not even the hardest one so far in the playoffs. He was heavily penalized for it. If the Suns can't deal with that and decide to attempt to injure someone just because their own players didn't follow the rules I'm pretty sure the NBA will see their team dismantled.
The Suns are unable to take out Parker. His head is stronger than anium.
Now if Amare had decked Parker like that and TD and Finley each garnered suspensions?
This place would be at DEFCON 1, implosion imminent...
And someone needs to Shop Bowen and Horry's picture over Mahorn's and Laimbeer's...
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Boooooooooooooys!
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Boooooooooooooys!
Who would have thunk it?
Do you have to "lean in" to get a body check? I'm sure some dumbass like Burke wouldn't mind a suspension to take out a guy like Parker.
Actually my suspension on this board wouldn't mean ! In my own head though, it would be huge!
at these homers saying horry should've have been suspended, who the cares about that teething geriatric? get over it.
one thing that IS odd though is that all this talk about how the league absolutely must be consistent with the rules and yet, horry gets suspended and davis does not for flooring fisher and throwing an obvious elbow to the head? not sure about this one.
Yep -- the league appears inconsistent this playoff season!
Baron Davis was granted a FF2 but no suspension (because the FF2 was not called during the game but after post game review).
Jason Richardson was not suspended for his hard foul on Okur!
I seriously feel bad for Phoenix and their fans over this ruling!
I wanted to see a fair game!
Please hip check parker!
IF that happens Raja, Morion, Baboso will try to thug it up, and pop will send in Vaughn and Udrih to clean up the mess.
I think it'll be a great trade,
Baboso, Morion, and Raja for Udrih And Vaughn.
Or maybe Udrih needs to kick thomas in the gonads!
Rofl.
Agreed. Now if the Spurs become champs, we'll hear about asterisks forever. It almost makes me not want it.
Does Washington care that the refs gave them the series against the Spurs in 79 with that phantom call? There is no asterisk, I could care less....you you do not want SA to win now, then you need to rethink your alliegences, I think.
horry for 2 games for a body check is merely an attempt by the nba to get this series to 7 games. that is laughable. the nba is a ing joke...
So, the test is whether Nash actually gets injured, not whether is looks and appears to be intentional and maliciously motivated? S ches in game #1, knee to the nuts in game #3 and a date with the flying nun in game #4 . . . . I'm pretty sure we won't get dismantled, but I think these guys just might have the guts to follow suit at home. Some bald guy like Burke would probably take a heavy penalty as the height of recognition.
I'm lost. Why would you feel bad for Phoenix when Robert Horry got an ejection plus a two game suspension for the exact same level foul that got Baron Davis no ejection and no suspsension?
funny thing is, davis and GS are done while the spurs and suns are even in a great series so far. No one would give a if GS lost Davis as if warrior fans could point to that as to why they lost, as for phx they got ed.
one thing that IS odd though is that all this talk about how the league absolutely must be consistent with the rules and yet, horry gets suspended and davis does not for flooring fisher and throwing an obvious elbow to the head? not sure about this one.
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