Suns fans out of control

[ChumpDumper]

Hypothetical question: What if say Tim Duncan caught the in-bound and Amare was there waiting to shoulder him to the sidelines and did so. Your telling me you'd want say Bruce Bowen and Tony Parker suspended for standing up for their team leader.

Not if they were on the bench. There are four other guys out there already. Why do sunfans forget that?

[ducks]

David Stern Was Headed To Az
Tell This Happened
He Did Not Think It Would Be Safe

[violentkitten]

I think the Spurs may be asking for it next game though, not a hard foul, but a more intense play. When Raja was suspended last year, it lit a flame under the Suns. Amare being suspended and this whole controversy around the series will really get them going. Game 5 should be intresting...

i expect bell to do something incredibly stupid in game 5.

[Obstructed_View]

Hypothetical question: What if say Tim Duncan caught the in-bound and Amare was there waiting to shoulder him to the sidelines and did so. Your telling me you'd want say Bruce Bowen and Tony Parker suspended for standing up for their team leader.

I presume you mean that Bruce Bowen and Tony Parker are on the bench at this point? If they left the bench area, I would absolutely not want them to be suspended. And once they were suspended I would know exactly why they were suspended. I would be mad that they were stupid enough to break such a clear rule at such a critical time in the season.

That's just me though. I don't accuse people of cheating when my team loses. I'm on record saying I hoped Amare and Diaw wouldn't get suspended, even though it seemed like there was no way to avoid it, since the rule is so crystal clear.

[kps0001]

Take off the homer goggles dude. Amare was trying to start .

huh...so now Spurs fans are gonna argue intent here?...the ing irony of this and the whole series is great.

I really hope the Suns win tomorrow and then wrap it up on SA's home court. No better way to say "IN YO FACE".

[LilMissSPURfect]

i expect bell to do something incredibly stupid AGAIN in game 5.

[T Park]

are suns fans gonna yell at every foul tommarow night saying "thinking that thats a foul is dumb"

[T Park]

Let Bell do something incredibly stupid and get suspended for game 6.

Go ahead.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

suddenly, a guy pulling down multi-seven figures for playing a game annually is a poor black woman in 1950s alabama arrested for breaking a segregationist law.

you are one pathetic mofo.

Just like a guy taking two steps onto the court is analogous to a speeding violation. Oh wait, they're two completely different things that have all in common. I was merely pointing out that comparing the NBA to any civil laws is purely idiotic. No disrespect to Rosa Parks obviously.

[Strike]

So Amare is a civil rights leader now?

I belive Martin Luther King said it best:

"An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law.
One who accidentally breaks the law and then complains when he gets arrested is just a dumb little ."

[OldDirtMcGirt]

I presume you mean that Bruce Bowen and Tony Parker are on the bench at this point? If they left the bench area, I would absolutely not want them to be suspended. And once they were suspended I would know exactly why they were suspended. I would be mad that they were stupid enough to break such a clear rule at such a critical time in the season.

That's just me though. I don't accuse people of cheating when my team loses. I'm on record saying I hoped Amare and Diaw wouldn't get suspended, even though it seemed like there was no way to avoid it, since the rule is so crystal clear.

I'm not saying that Stoudemire wasn't clearly breaking the rule (Diaw is another story, I'm not sure if what he did really cons utes leaving the "direct vicinity"). I'm just saying that it was unfair that they were suspended because the rule is stupid. Obviously it was the correct call under the current rule, but I think that especially in the NBA that fairness should trump legality.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Nothing like a good ignorant troll to bring us all together. I don't think we've been this much in agreement on anything ever.

Just glad I could help!

[Phill11]

I presume you mean that Bruce Bowen and Tony Parker are on the bench at this point? If they left the bench area, I would absolutely not want them to be suspended. And once they were suspended I would know exactly why they were suspended. I would be mad that they were stupid enough to break such a clear rule at such a critical time in the season.

That's just me though. I don't accuse people of cheating when my team loses. I'm on record saying I hoped Amare and Diaw wouldn't get suspended, even though it seemed like there was no way to avoid it, since the rule is so crystal clear.

It's easier said than done. Sure the rule is "crystal clear" but your players sure did damn near cross the line that Amare and Diaw "crossed". The cir stances were different.

Our MVP was checked almost into the stands. Sure no altercation had happened yet during the Duncan/Bowen incident, but to suspend two key players in a heated time, especially when the Suns team as a whole has been pounded by the Spurs this series, is a little crazy if you ask me.

I understand rules are rules, but there some key factors of this.

Horry's hard foul was intentional, every knows it. The NBA is rewarding the Spurs for his hard foul too. Basically he traded a technical foul and a bench player(albeit a key one) for two games for the difference maker in the series...

If the NBA is looking for more cheap shots and hard fouls, they've just opened up another can of worms with their rulings today. They just proved that playing dirty may be the only way to actually win.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I'm not saying that Stoudemire wasn't clearly breaking the rule (Diaw is another story, I'm not sure if what he did really cons utes leaving the "direct vicinity"). I'm just saying that it was unfair that they were suspended because the rule is stupid. Obviously it was the correct call under the current rule, but I think that especially in the NBA that fairness should trump legality.

basically, what you're saying is you want the NBA to be more arbitrary

[Obstructed_View]

huh...so now Spurs fans are gonna argue intent here?...the ing irony of this and the whole series is great.

I really hope the Suns win tomorrow and then wrap it up on SA's home court. No better way to say "IN YO FACE".

Yep. Wins are better than anything else. Of course, you'll be in here making excuses if the Spurs win, right?

[ChumpDumper]

I understand rules are rules

No, you really don't.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

basically, what you're saying is you want the NBA to be more arbitrary

No, totally opposite. I want the NBA to interpret and adapt all of their rules to the current situation. That way it avoids these kinds of situations and promotes accountability, because the league can't just cop out and say, "my hands are tied".

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Horry's hard foul was intentional, every knows it. The NBA is rewarding the Spurs for his hard foul too. Basically he traded a technical foul and a bench player(albeit a key one) for two games for the difference maker in the series...

Horry didn't trade anything!! Amare and Diaw are the ONLY ones to blame for their suspension!!

[Phill11]

No, you really don't.

Yes I do. I understand why the commisioner suspended Amare, Bowen and Diaw. Do I agree with it? No. Does that mean I don't understand that rules are rules, no it doesn't.

[L.I.T]

No, totally opposite. I want the NBA to interpret and adapt all of their rules to the current situation. That way it avoids these kinds of situations and promotes accountability, because the league can't just cop out and say, "my hands are tied".

You do realize how insane your argument is right? Let's change the rules to fit each incident and apply them differently and that's how we'll have accountability?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

No, totally opposite. I want the NBA to interpret and adapt all of their rules to the current situation. That way it avoids these kinds of situations and promotes accountability, because the league can't just cop out and say, "my hands are tied".

ar·bi·trar·y - decided by a judge or arbiter rather than by a law or statute

[ChumpDumper]

Yes I do. I understand why the commisioner suspended Amare, Bowen and Diaw. Do I agree with it? No. Does that mean I don't understand that rules are rules, no it doesn't.

Ok, you just don't agree when it affects your team. That's fine.

[violentkitten]

No, totally opposite. I want the NBA to interpret and adapt all of their rules to the current situation. That way it avoids these kinds of situations and promotes accountability, because the league can't just cop out and say, "my hands are tied".

accountability is promoted when a rule is applied to all equally. what you want is for stars to be protected when they do what they know they are not supposed to do.

[OldDirtMcGirt]

accountability is promoted when a rule is applied to all equally. what you want is for stars to be protected when they do what they know they are not supposed to do.

No I don't. I want the league to view everything within the context that it occured and make a judgement based on what happened.

[L.I.T]

No I don't. I want the league to view everything within the context that it occured and make a judgement based on what happened.

So basically, make judgment calls and regulate intent, you don't think that won't open up a whole can of worms?