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    Ok, you just don't agree when it affects your team. That's fine.
    No, not true either. Another instance in which your assuming.

    If a team cheapshots another player and two players run onto the court, to then seconds later stop themselves, those players should not be suspended.

    Even if it were Tim Duncan and Bruce Bowen(as much as I hate him), I wouldn't want them suspended. That's not only a lame way to make the series lopsided, but it's also suspending a person for using natural reactions. Boris Diaw caught himself after 5-6 steps..

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    No, not true either. Another instance in which your assuming.

    If a team cheapshots another player and two players run onto the court, to then seconds later stop themselves, those players should not be suspended.
    Newsflash! Amare didn't STOP, he was STOPPED! there is a difference

    Even if it were Tim Duncan and Bruce Bowen(as much as I hate him), I wouldn't want them suspended. That's not only a lame way to make the series lopsided, but it's also suspending a person for using natural reactions. Boris Diaw caught himself after 5-6 steps..
    what?? violence is a natural reaction for some, should they not be punished then? what the are you talking about!?

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    So basically, make judgment calls and regulate intent, you don't think that won't open up a whole can of worms?
    Considering that's what the NBA does in most every other incident, then no I don't. It's not like they have a set amount of games per infraction, for the most the league views it and determines whether or not the play in question was worthy of a suspension. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

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    No I don't. I want the league to view everything within the context that it occured and make a judgement based on what happened.


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    None of the spurs players left the bench cause they all had there thumbs up there ass. Cause they got there heart ripped right out of them on game 4! Look at your lump of with ears TIM "THE " DUNCAN

    GO SUNS

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    No, not true either. Another instance in which your assuming.

    If a team cheapshots another player
    and a player on your team starts a fight, which leads to


    two players run onto the court, to then seconds later stop themselves, those players should
    be suspended, per league rules.

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    It's easier said than done. Sure the rule is "crystal clear" but your players sure did damn near cross the line that Amare and Diaw "crossed". The cir stances were different.
    No, actually Tim Duncan crossed the same line. The NBA ruled that there was no altercation. Had they ruled the other way, Timmy would be sitting. It was completely stupid of him to do what he did. I'm sure Bowen told him that and the Spurs may have gotten an extra warning not to react to sitiuations like that, which may very well have saved them after the Horry foul. Again, Timmy dodged a big bullet with that one.

    Our MVP was checked almost into the stands. Sure no altercation had happened yet during the Duncan/Bowen incident, but to suspend two key players in a heated time, especially when the Suns team as a whole has been pounded by the Spurs this series, is a little crazy if you ask me.
    What's crazy is the amount of effort you put into trying to make the whole thing look overly dramatic. The Suns haven't come close to being pounded. Fortunately you have no idea what it's like to have your players pounded on for an entire series. This series is a square dance compared to the Denver series. Your MVP was hard fouled, which cost the dumbass that did it two games. Your two dumbasses got a game apiece. It's on them. Period.

    I understand rules are rules, but there some key factors of this.
    No, there aren't. You can't say that you understand that rules are rules, and then say "but". Either you think the rules should be followed or you don't. If you don't, then you think your team should get to play by a completely different set of rules simply by virtue of the fact that you root for them. Forgive the rest of the world for calling shenanigans on that at ude.

    Horry's hard foul was intentional
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    every (body) knows it.
    False.

    The NBA is rewarding the Spurs for his hard foul too.
    The NBA is suspending Amare and Diaw for breaking the rule about leaving the bench.

    Basically he traded a technical foul and a bench player(albeit a key one) for two games for the difference maker in the series...
    Basically he cost the Spurs any chance of taking a 3-1 lead in the series and gave home court back to the Suns. Amare and Diaw chose to leave the bench. Personally, I'd much rather have three chances to close out the complete Suns team than have to try to win 2 out of three without home court.

    If the NBA is looking for more cheap shots and hard fouls, they've just opened up another can of worms with their rulings today. They just proved that playing dirty may be the only way to actually win.
    Horry made the first dirty play of the series and it cost the Spurs the game. The Spurs have played dirtier teams than the Suns could ever hope to be and won. If you think that's the way to beat the Spurs, you are sorely mistaken. The sooner some of you accept the actions of your players for the situation you're in, the better off you'll be.

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    No, not true either. Another instance in which your assuming.

    If a team cheapshots another player and two players run onto the court, to then seconds later stop themselves, those players should not be suspended.
    That's not what the rule states. Funny how sunfans never had a problem with this rule for ten years until it affected their team.

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    None of the spurs players left the bench cause they all know the NBA rules.
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    Considering that's what the NBA does in most every other incident, then no I don't. It's not like they have a set amount of games per infraction, for the most the league views it and determines whether or not the play in question was worthy of a suspension. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
    Ooook, I'm thinking about which other incidents you are referring to. Let's say, attacking a fan? Or kicking a photographer in the nads? Yah, those are incidents without defined punishments...thus a judgment call on the length of suspension.

    In this case, there is a defined rule with a defined punishment that every player, coach, trainer, waterboy and video tape is aware of. Basically, what you're advocating is the abolishment of all existing rules for infractions and allowing the league to regulate however they deem fit without players and coaches having any guidelines under which to act?

    Cool.

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    No, actually Tim Duncan crossed the same line. The NBA ruled that there was no altercation. Had they ruled the other way, Timmy would be sitting. It was completely stupid of him to do what he did. I'm sure Bowen told him that and the Spurs may have gotten an extra warning not to react to sitiuations like that, which may very well have saved them after the Horry foul. Again, Timmy dodged a big bullet with that one.


    What's crazy is the amount of effort you put into trying to make the whole thing look overly dramatic. The Suns haven't come close to being pounded. Fortunately you have no idea what it's like to have your players pounded on for an entire series. This series is a square dance compared to the Denver series. Your MVP was hard fouled, which cost the dumbass that did it two games. Your two dumbasses got a game apiece. It's on them. Period.


    No, there aren't. You can't say that you understand that rules are rules, and then say "but". Either you think the rules should be followed or you don't. If you don't, then you think your team should get to play by a completely different set of rules simply by virtue of the fact that you root for them. Forgive the rest of the world for calling shenanigans on that at ude.


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    False.


    The NBA is suspending Amare and Diaw for breaking the rule about leaving the bench.


    Basically he cost the Spurs any chance of taking a 3-1 lead in the series and gave home court back to the Suns. Amare and Diaw chose to leave the bench. Personally, I'd much rather have three chances to close out the complete Suns team than have to try to win 2 out of three without home court.


    Horry made the first dirty play of the series and it cost the Spurs the game. The Spurs have played dirtier teams than the Suns could ever hope to be and won. If you think that's the way to beat the Spurs, you are sorely mistaken. The sooner some of you accept the actions of your players for the situation you're in, the better off you'll be.

    Nice post, everything you have said is unfortunately for Suns fans, true. I would have to say that Horry's foul was intentional, the result may not have been. That would be the only point I disagree with you on. It's a shame that this series has come to all this B.S. between the teams and the fans when perhaps the top two teams in the NBA are playing the best series this round and perhaps the rest of the playoffs.

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    If a team cheapshots another player and two players run onto the court, to then seconds later stop themselves, those players should not be suspended.
    Yes they should. And they were. And they always have been. And until the rule is changed, they always will be.

    Even if it were Tim Duncan and Bruce Bowen(as much as I hate him), I wouldn't want them suspended. That's not only a lame way to make the series lopsided, but it's also suspending a person for using natural reactions. Boris Diaw caught himself after 5-6 steps..
    Yeah, right. You'd be jumping for joy. Diaw should have caught himself before the first step. In addition, the coaching staff should have been more worried about keeping the guys on the bench instead of rushing to Nash. I won't go so far as to say that Horry suckered the Suns, but they certainly seemed ripe for it.

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    DIAW WAS GOING TO SAVE HIS LIL PRETTY BOY PARKER THAT WAS HIS REASON FOR BEING ON THE FLOOR! Now he can rub up on eva while your lil cheaters are running around kicking go-nads

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    Nice post, everything you have said is unfortunately for Suns fans, true. I would have to say that Horry's foul was intentional, the result may not have been. That would be the only point I disagree with you on. It's a shame that this series has come to all this B.S. between the teams and the fans when perhaps the top two teams in the NBA are playing the best series this round and perhaps the rest of the playoffs.
    I didn't say Horry's foul wasn't intentional, but I took issue with someone stating their opinion as a clear undeniable fact that the league should have taken into account. I think perhaps the fact that he left without talking to the media is an indication that it might have indeed been a frustration foul. Why he would be frustrated I have no idea. It's also possible that he screwed up, cost his team the game, and was disgusted with himself for it. I don't know, and so far, neither does anyone else. If the game had been decided when he did it I'd be more likely to think it was overt. As it stood, it was the final nail in the Spurs' coffin and it's all on him.

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    Newsflash! Amare didn't STOP, he was STOPPED! there is a difference

    what?? violence is a natural reaction for some, should they not be punished then? what the are you talking about!?
    Violence? I didn't the Suns throw any fists or anything. Only violence came from your side....

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    None of the spurs players left the bench cause they all had there thumbs up there ass. Cause they got there heart ripped right out of them on game 4! Look at your lump of with ears TIM "THE " DUNCAN

    GO SUNS
    how old are these trolls. this is so ing juvenile. I had no idea there were so many guys in phoenix with small penis complex

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    Violence? I didn't the Suns throw any fists or anything. Only violence came from your side....
    LMAO Raja Bell. Amare+Diaw running at Horry then being pushed back by 5 coaches. Homer glasses.

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    Word out of PHX, bomb threat at the Spurs hotel.

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    The hotel is tainted now.

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    Is this the TRAMP STAMP that Parker has tatooed on his lower back so that Duncan can review it whenever he's doing Tony in the ass? No wonder no Spurs left the bench... they all have had their turns with Tony!

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    Is this the TRAMP STAMP that Parker has tatooed on his lower back so that Duncan can review it whenever he's doing Tony in the ass? No wonder no Spurs left the bench... they all have had their turns with Tony!
    Maybe Nash should have had it on his back so Amare could've seen it.

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    Can he read?

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    Good point.

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    Ooook, I'm thinking about which other incidents you are referring to. Let's say, attacking a fan? Or kicking a photographer in the nads? Yah, those are incidents without defined punishments...thus a judgment call on the length of suspension.

    In this case, there is a defined rule with a defined punishment that every player, coach, trainer, waterboy and video tape is aware of. Basically, what you're advocating is the abolishment of all existing rules for infractions and allowing the league to regulate however they deem fit without players and coaches having any guidelines under which to act?

    Cool.
    I believe that with the Nuggets/Knicks fight earlier in the year, the league looked at everybody involved and handed out suspensions accordingly.

    The key word here is guidelines. I do want players and coaches to have guidelines under which to act, but not hard and fast rules that aren't open to interpretation.

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    What would you do?? Take a couple of steps in support of your teammate or sit on the bench???
    You sit your ass on the bench so you don't cost your team your presence! The refs were getting under control, but they lost their head and rushed onto the court! They knew the rules, but were such dumbasses that they cost their team!

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