Reply With Quote
first ballot all the way.
Without a doubt!!!
Hall of Famer-yes...First Ballot-No
NO...Good pitcher but not great.
Lets wait till he's retired.
I feel he is no doubt, but what do ya'll think?
He got his 200th win last night, and he'll get around 30 more before it's all said and done. He also has 154 saves. Which brings me to the question...
first ballot all the way.
HOF, I do believe, but the enshrinement is frequently slower that one would think. He's also had a weird dual career that will be difficult for the media to figure out.
Absolutely. Probably 250+ wins right now if not for the time spent as closer. Maybe would have had an outside shot at 300.
He's been a legit ace since the mid 90s, even though he was often overshadowed by the other 2 aces on the staff.
I also put him as the 5th best pitcher of his era (Clemens, Maddux, Johnson, and Glavine).
And, of the Braves' aces, he's the one who actually stepped up his game come postseason. His postseason numbers: 15-4, 2.65 ERA, 207 IP, 168 HA, 67 BB, 194 K. Seriously - that's a Cy Young caliber season in itself, consisting solely of starts against the best teams in baseball in October!
Not on the first ballot, some of the all time greats didnt get in the first time. try again in 4 years.
most of the all-time greats who didn't get in on the first ballot were in the initial classes, where they only took in 4 or 5 at a time.
in fact, i'm struggling to come up with an all-time great who hasn't gotten in on the first ballot over the past 50 years. maybe pete rose, although he's got a different set of cir stances and i also think he's the most overrated player in baseball history for reasons i have discussed in other threads. (for the record, i don't consider smoltz to be an 'all-time great', but he is a first ballot guy, and it's not close).
and what do you mean by try again in 4 years?
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions