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    not looking to get in the middle of this, but i guess i will. he brings up a valid point. if you're asking how the spurs stop the cavs, why not provide the other end of the spectrum? i'd just like to hear your thoughts. the one-ball theory holds for the cavs as well.

    I already listed what I think needs to happen...

    Parker needs to keep emerging as SuperStar.
    Finley needs to have the series of his life.
    Horry needs to be on the court(this is kind of interchangeable with Finley's).
    Hope Brown doesn't know Pop as well as AJ did (well enough to get Pop to shortcircuit his own defense)
    Hope the Cavs are just happy to be there.
    Elson needs to pull his head out and play up to his talent.

    Hit our FT's.

    I believe they have the personnel to stop Manu, and Duncan better than we have the personnel to stop LeBron. Parker is they guy I don't think they can stop, but he's got to keep coming up big. Anyway, I think LeBron is a better passer out of a double team than Duncan...LeBron is really good at passing, so good, I think he should be compared to Magic Johnson before he's compared to Jordan.

    Big Z is better at shutting down the paint than people give him credit for...he's a good C, and it's not going to be a freeforall at the basket like the Suns were. He's also a pain in the azzzzz on offense and he's big enough to where we don't have a match for him either, he can hurt us, he has before.


    And I will say this...I don't think Bruce can physically matchup with LeBron...but if he somehow all of a sudden can, defend him as well as he can...say, Kobe?

    This series is over. That changes everything, I don't see that happening though...I see it being a lot more like it is when Bruce plays against TMac.

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    finley's on a downward spiral as the playoffs have gone along


    you are a moron.

    Rewatch game 5 vs Utah and see how well he shot.

    Give me a friggen break.

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    The silliest thing I keep hearing from Spursfans is that the Cavs are a one man team...

    I don't agree with this. They may be a one SuperStar Team, but they have dangerous players.

    They are definitely not a one man team on defense either.

    And people underestimate what a Superstar with passing ability can do...even after we just got done messing with Steve Nash.

    For all intents and purposes...the Suns are a one man team, because if you take Nash off that team...they can't do jack.

    There's no such thing as a one man team when your SuperStar can pass like LeBron. Every player on his team is an offensive weapon.

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    you are a moron.

    Rewatch game 5 vs Utah and see how well he shot.

    Give me a friggen break.
    um ok. but his scoring average has gone down for each succeeding round of the playoffs. he's gone from 16 to 13 to 10 ppg versus the nugs, suns and utah. at this rate, he looks like he'll have 7 point scoring average for the finals.

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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I cant wait for thursday to get here. The boredom has got some Spurs fans believing we are playing the 90's Bulls.

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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I cant wait for thursday to get here. The boredom has got some Spurs fans believing we are playing the 90's Bulls.
    yeah. i've been on these boards all day. that's what i've been reduced to.

    scratch the down trend for the cavs scoring thing, too. they've been up and down.

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    IMO...the guy that is making the Cavs wrack their brains figuring out how to stop him right now...is Tony Parker.

    I'd be willing to bet Brown knows the best way to stop Duncan with double teams...and whether Spursfans want to admit or not...Duncan can be stopped with double teams...he can be forced into TO's...he just kind of did it in the Utah series.

    Pop didn't sign Horry because of the shot...he signed him because he Duncan himself said Horry gave him more trouble than anyone, especially when he was getting double help.

    Phil Jackson used to do it to great effect in the 4th quarters of our playoff games...double off the choker(AJ, Porter, Hedo, Smitty etc) and force Duncan into a rash of late TO's.

    It stopped when he had guys Phil was afraid to double off of...Stephen Jackson, Manu, Parker.


    They tried sending Kobe to double him off of Bruce...that was the game where Bruce punked Kobe and dropped 27 on them.

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    IMO...the guy that is making the Cavs wrack their brains figuring out how to stop him right now...is Tony Parker.

    I'd be willing to bet Brown knows the best way to stop Duncan with double teams...and whether Spursfans want to admit or not...Duncan can be stopped with double teams...he can be forced into TO's...he just kind of did it in the Utah series.

    Pop didn't sign Horry because of the shot...he signed him because he Duncan himself said Horry gave him more trouble than anyone, especially when he was getting double help.

    Phil Jackson used to do it to great effect in the 4th quarters of our playoff games...double off the choker(AJ, Porter, Hedo, Smitty etc) and force Duncan into a rash of late TO's.

    It stopped when he had guys Phil was afraid to double off of...Stephen Jackson, Manu, Parker.
    And Manu and Parker are still here....I hope cleveland does try to double duncan.

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    The silliest thing I keep hearing from Spursfans is that the Cavs are a one man team...

    I don't agree with this. They may be a one SuperStar Team, but they have dangerous players.

    They are definitely not a one man team on defense either.

    And people underestimate what a Superstar with passing ability can do...even after we just got done messing with Steve Nash.

    For all intents and purposes...the Suns are a one man team, because if you take Nash off that team...they can't do jack.

    There's no such thing as a one man team when your SuperStar can pass like LeBron. Every player on his team is an offensive weapon.
    Pavlovic is a bum ass mother er who wouldnt start on any other team, Gooden is a bust, Z is can shoot a little but can't play D for with his slow ass footspeed and Hughes is just another chucker who tries to play point guard, and their bench is complete (Gibson had what 2 good games?) and sideshow Bob will get his ass beat in this series

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    9 pages?

    Kill their ing horses!

    Next question.

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    And just to tie all this up into a neat little package with my Finley hate...

    Brown was here when Phil used to do that to us, if Finley winds up being the guy they double off of, and he goes on one of his patented 1-8 binges...we're going to be in a hole quick. I don't think he''s the type that knocks down wide open shots like Jack, Bruce and Horry are....I think he's the type that will miss them. He shoots best when he's got someone bodying him.

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    And just to tie all this up into a neat little package with my Finley hate...

    Brown was here when Phil used to do that to us, if Finley winds up being the guy they double off of, and he goes on one of his patented 1-8 binges...we're going to be in a hole quick. I don't think he''s the type that knocks down wide open shots like Jack, Bruce and Horry are....I think he's the type that will miss them.
    Yeah because these playoffs have been so evident of that point this dumb mother er

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    And Manu and Parker are still here....I hope cleveland does try to double duncan.
    If Pop gets conservative and they start doubling Duncan....Duncan is prone to TO's...as I said, there's only one ball...that's why some of the great offensive teams in history have been dispatched from the playoffs easily.

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    but his scoring average has gone down for each succeeding round of the playoffs. he's gone from 16 to 13 to 10 ppg versus the nugs, suns and utah. at this rate, he looks like he'll have 7 point scoring average for the finals.

    Maybe, cause, they are

    1. Gameplanning for him more,

    2. Ginobili, Parker, Duncan, Bowen are probobly shooting more shots.

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    I don't think he''s the type that knocks down wide open shots like Jack, Bruce and Horry are....I think he's the type that will miss them. He shoots best when he's got someone bodying him.
    you haven't watched one playoff game this year have you...

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    Hope Tim won't get into foul trouble with Varejo's flops!

    this is my main concern.

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    Maybe Ginobili could guard Varejo and they could have a "flop off".

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    this is MADNESS..whott YOU A FOOL!

    the voice or blah blah, brent barry this...blah blah i will correct you on this "And he's the best passer on the team, the best one at finding open men, the best at getting rid of the ball the second he draws additional defenders" please son, you lucky your not in CA because you would get smacked silly...TIM DUNCAN. i think you love bb so much cuz you look like him. (might be wrong but i believe i saw a pic of you at a GTG and i thought to myself this looks like brent barry)

    Brent Barry hasnt done for the spurs, and dont bring up that game in phoenix, great brent job brent. he shoots 3 pts with no confidence and his best assest is his jokes and we all know it BE REAL, you fool.

    STOP before i crucify yo ass. again your acting like a fool with your studip takes, they are so annoying because you have facts but we know whats up like bb might shoot well but never when he is needed(1 time).

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    this is MADNESS..whott YOU A FOOL!

    the voice or blah blah, brent barry this...blah blah i will correct you on this "And he's the best passer on the team, the best one at finding open men, the best at getting rid of the ball the second he draws additional defenders" please son, you lucky your not in CA because you would get smacked silly...TIM DUNCAN. i think you love bb so much cuz you look like him. (might be wrong but i believe i saw a pic of you at a GTG and i thought to myself this looks like brent barry)

    Brent Barry hasnt done for the spurs, and dont bring up that game in phoenix, great brent job brent. he shoots 3 pts with no confidence and his best assest is his jokes and we all know it BE REAL, you fool.

    STOP before i crucify yo ass. again your acting like a fool with your studip takes, they are so annoying because you have facts but we know whats up like bb might shoot well but never when he is needed(1 time).

    He was shooting fine before his minutes got cut in half....he'd beaten Finley out of the job and Finley got it back due to injury.

    You don't discern that, do you though...hater.


    Edit: and his passing is always good.
    Last edited by whottt; 06-04-2007 at 10:12 AM.

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    my take on this series:

    spurs have the depth, experience, personality, confidence and will to win it all....

    it's like good 'ol shaq being challenged by big ben.... no problem!!!!

    but being a cavs fan, i do have some knowledge on how to beat them..... DON'T EVER UNDERESTIMATE THEM....

    the cavs is one of the worst offensive teams in the league.... even i personally hate the brown system offensively....

    on the contrary, they do have some mysterious defensive philosophy patterned after pops'....

    you can not really envision the likes of AV, gooden and Z as defensive players.... they seemed to "suck"....and hughes.... i more than don't like him either.... and snow.... no offensive threat at all.....

    sasha is so inconsistent......

    boobie is STILL a rookie.......

    now you know lebron.....

    bottomline is, we have a MEDIOCRE team... really..... but....

    the only reason why there is still pride in us is because we have lebron who is one of
    the best example of a LEADER.....

    we are inspired by the the ans' football team,... by the fic ious mighty ducks....

    we are in no man's land until we were redeemed by the King...

    yes, that's the story of the cavs.... from a worst 17 win season to back-to-back 50 win season the last two years....

    we live and die w/ lebron.... as long as he is there, we have hope....

    spurs team, you are great, we know that....we respect you for that..... but we are the cavs..... we don't really pose a threat against you.... let's just play and see what happens.....

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    No one here is predicting a sweep.

    You're just trying to pick a fight. It's hardly the end of the ing world to play the Cavs.

    But just like with Utah - rebounds and the advantage will be huge. If the Pistons had taken care of the boards, they would have been in a much better position.

    No, whottt, Bowen can't guard LeBron by himself, but the beauty of the system is that he doesn't have to. I can't count how many times in the last two games I watched people near the basket watch LeBron instead of guard him or attempt to block his shot. That won't happen with the Spurs.
    Iverson stated that his scoring frustration was that when he got around Bruce, somebody else was in his way, waiting for him. Seamless switchoffs. Team D.

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    Iverson stated that his scoring frustration was that when he got around Bruce, somebody else was in his way, waiting for him. Seamless switchoffs. Team D.
    yeah, i agree with you....

    unless iverson don't reduce himself to a team player, he will neve be effective... if he can only humble himself and play like tony parker, he will be a pain in ass for any opposing team....

    goerge karl should focus on iverson next season.... on how to maximize the talent.... man, if i have a team like the nuggets, it'll be rings after rings....

    imagine if pops coaching the nuggets....

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    Team D

    Not letting his teammates go off.

    You still try to guard him, but don't waste Bowen on him all game if Bowen can't be effective - put Bowen on the hot guy (whoever that might be) and shut them down.

    I think a strategy that's been successful in the past that could be beneficial here is letting and asking LeBron get off in the first three while concentrating on shutting down his team and then concentrating on him in the fourth, since his team will most likely be cold.

    Our experience in the Finals should help.

    Rebounding and protecting the ball will be crucial. Pistons gave up too many layups and too many second chance points.
    Best recommendation on the board. We HAVE to rebound better than we have to date this whole season. We CAN beat Cleveland, but they CAN beat us as well. Remember the two previous losses this season. Finally, this really DOES come down to Pop vs. Brown, I think. It will be an intresting series.

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    There is no way on earth the spurs are loosing this series to a one man team.

    If they do somehow, this whole season is a fluke.


    Ill say it again, i will be very VERY suprised if this series go's 6 games, and won't even blink an eye if it is a sweep.

    The cavaliers are not a good basketball team. They just aren't, one man is not a team.

    the spurs have an advantage in almost every aspect of the game, at every position except 1.

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    There is no way on earth the spurs are loosing this series to a one man team..
    You forgot to add...that play D like the Suns.

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