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You respect Lebron's game and give him his due, but handle him per game plan Spurs vs Phoenex/Stoudamire. Shut down the rest of the Cav's team and wear JLb down to the nubs.
People are seriously over-rating the Jazz...they weren't that good. I mean c'mon...they limped to the end of the regular season and beat Houston and Golden State...
It took them 7 games to beat the Rockets.
You respect Lebron's game and give him his due, but handle him per game plan Spurs vs Phoenex/Stoudamire. Shut down the rest of the Cav's team and wear JLb down to the nubs.
This thread is making me sick. You never give up on your team and never deny Bruce Bowen.
This, I believe. But Bruce will prevail overall.
It's no secret...I think Brent Barry brings a lot of intangibles to our offense when he is allowed to play big minutes...
More than Michael Finley does, inspite of Finley being the better defender.
Finley brings scoring...and if that isn't falling he's an offensive liability, I don't believe that's true with Barry, due to his passing and desire to find the open man. I think Brent Barry is a very good guard, his impact on the Sonics W-L was verfiable.
Let me point this out one more time...
Brent Barry lead the team in 3pct
FG%
Adjusted FG%
2%
And PPS.
Probably PPFGA as well.
And he's the best passer on the team, the best one at finding open men, the best at getting rid of the ball the second he draws additional defenders.
I loved it when they did that...but the Jazz weren't that good.Yes, they did have the worse regular season record.
IMO, they looked pretty strong getting there. They did a lot of things past teams wouldn't have done. For instance, the Jazz game 4. What Spurs team of past would have kept attacking and attacking even if the refs weren't calling anything? Definitely not the '05 team, that team would have went into jumpshooting mode.
What made the 2003 team's run so impressive was taking out the 3 time defending champion Lakers.Easiest path? I don't think so. (I'm not going to do '99, I don't remember the numbers)
'03:
Phoenix (44-38)
Lakers (50-32)
Dallas (60-22)
'05:
Denver (49-33)
Seattle (52-30)
Phoenix (62-20)
'07:
Denver (45-37, however much better than the '05 team)
Phoenix (61-21, a strong 60 win team that showed they can play some defense)
Utah (51-31, weaker than Phoenix '07, but perhaps stronger than Phoenix '05?)
The 99 team probably had the toughest road to the finals based on winning PCT. But like you...I am not going to bother trying to extrapolate their record to see if I am right...Portland and LA both had excellent winning % that year.
And no way was Utah better than either of the last two 60 win Phoenix we faced. They won 51 games...and that's the only team we've looked particularly good against.
We got lucky against the Suns. Horry saved us...I don't think he's going to be on the court enough to do anything in this series.
Hmmm...let me think about that for a second. Even still...they lost 2 players for a pivotal game...it destroyed their composure and distracted them. The Spurs held the mental edge in that series, and the Suns were in the process of taking it away from them when Horry capitalized on their youth.All I know is that the Phoenix we played this year is the strongest out of all the ones I mentioned, except for maybe the '03 Lakers.
This Denver Team lacked experience playing together, that was their biggest fault...and Tony Parker's d on AI was pretty impressive. Melo raped us...The Denver team we faced in the first round is better than the Phoenix of '03, BUT the Phoenix '03 team gave us much more trouble and thefore seemed to be better. Utah is about the same as Seattle, the difference is the Spurs played up to their capability and didn't play ty. I think the compe ion's been there, our play has just been excellent.
And I think this is where years of neglecting the need for a long SF finally catches up to us(well actually, it caught up to us last season). I don't think this team has looked strong against anyone other than Utah.I agree. This is the toughest matchup because of their defensive capabilities and invidual matchups (Lebron/Bowen, Z/Oberto). The Spurs are going to have to play their best like they have been all playoffs to win. It's a dangerous matchup but that will make it all the better if we win. Cleveland has the potential to beat us, I acknowledge that and understand where you're coming from. But you have to have faith in the Spurs that they will take care of business. This "doom and gloom" outlook is pretty unwarranted given how they have performed this year in the playoffs.
And hey...without doom and gloom, Sunshine wouldn't mean as much.
Whether I blindly support the Spurs or not is not going to determing whether or not they win a le...and if it does...then I have gone out on a big enough limb to where I am begging fate to prove me wrong. About Finley, about this team. I am doing my part
Last edited by whottt; 06-03-2007 at 11:39 AM.
I thought regular season doesn't mean much in the playoffs. I guess it has nothing to do with winning in the playoffs when it counts huh?
Remember they played the last 2 regular season games with the big three sitting out. Your regular season statement would/should be moot.
I am not the one saying the regular season doesn't matter...I think it can matter and it can be used to gauge a teams chances against another team...I thought regular season doesn't mean much in the playoffs. I guess it has nothing to do with winning in the playoffs when it counts huh?
Remember they played the last 2 regular season games with the big three sitting out. Your regular season statement would/should be moot.
Not really...because they rested players at the end of 05 as well, IIRC that team had no shot at catching Phoenix and lost it's last 2 games of the season.
BTW Cheryl, I don't believe I've ever told you this, but I have a tremendous amount of respect for your insight...I've actually considered you a potential mate soley on the basis of your basketball knowledge. I am sorry that you feel the way you do and I am forced to tell you that there will be no honeymoon.
Also the best at getting rid of the ball when he's got nobody on him and a wide-open layup.the best at getting rid of the ball the second he draws additional defenders.
As opposed to Finley...who'll hold onto it and jack it up over 4 defenders even if it's the last shot of game 7.
I noticed chumpdumper is su iously absent from this thread with his CD-isms...
Participation in this thread would require Chump to actually have a visible stance...something Chump has yet to do...he doesn't even make vbookie bets.I noticed chumpdumper is su iously absent from this thread with his CD-isms...
he does tend to hide behind his aphorisms
but still
he's the yin to your yang
back to the thread
man I wish we had a Hammer-like player that could just drop lebron on a dunk attempt, get him really mad and turn him into a chunker
that would 0wn
How do the SPURS beat the CAVS? Easy Answer
Show up for the game!! Cleveland has a Sports Championship Jinx.
The only Championship they've won in the last 2 decades is the #1 rating for their Cleveland Clinic Heart Center by USN&WR for the last 12 years. Impressive, but doesn't count when it comes to sports.
I hope the CAVS can win just 1 game. At least those watching the series will get to see LeBron-- he is a remarkably agile player of great strength and maturity for his age.
Go easy on us SPURS, how many championship rings you guys got already???
The CAvs team is good enough to punish you for being left wide open? Please. Hughes has been off his game and Marshall isn't good enough to punish us. Gibson is the only real threat outside of Lebron.
What is there to say?
It won't be easy since we have no one that matches up with Lebron, but we've had a recent history of allowing ridiculous stats from individuals while beating their teams. Lebron may have the talent to overcome that, but his deferential nature may blunt that advantage.
Spurs win.
There's my stance.
whottt may now his fat self.
That's actually a very good take.
Holy spit...first timvp says ass...now this....Spurs win.
Up is down.
I'll believe you about the Spurs winning once I see you putting your vbucks where your fingers are...
It's so obvious I figured it was understood.As a blind homer, that should also be understood.Holy spit...first timvp says ass...now this....
Up is down.
What is with you people?
dbestpro, thanks for the insight! That was a nice analysis.
I dont think this series will be anything to worry about.
Pop >>>>>> All
And thats all it takes to beat a one-man team, which the Cavs are by the widest of margins. LBJ may steal a game (or two, with a miracle) but Pop wont just let things be when he sees it isnt working.
No offense, but there isnt a player in the league that can guard LBJ. Bowen will be fouling out alot if he guarding him primarily. And besides Bowen, no one on the Spurs roster has the right combination of size, speed and strength needed to contain him (maybe Manu?).
Just get used to alot of LBJ driving by everyone and getting And-1s.
BTW, Cavs play excellent defense. They also own the boards.
With all that said, Spurs in 5. Big Men (Tim) >> Perimeter Guys (LBJ). Thats why Oden gets the #1 whilst Durant goes #2.
Get fncking serious....what do you mean besides Bowen?
And besides Manu? Manu is not that great of a defender...he's good at getting steals and disrupting passing lanes, but he doesn't shut people down, and he's not that hard to beat off the dribble.
The guy that comes the cloest to having the weight and size to guard LeBron is Finley....
Manu and LeBron are not a physical match in any way shape or form and I doubt they spend much time guarding each other.
I hope they try to guard Manu with LeBron...
How so the Spurs beat the Cavs?
Avoid rainouts.
And since basketball is an indoor sport, I like the Spurs chances.
Last edited by Kent_in_Atlanta; 06-03-2007 at 05:46 PM.
Spurs need to mix it up with Lebron ...throw everything at him (even the kitchen sink).
Melo was too big for bruce too but BRUCE did a uva job on melo and ai. Fronting Lebronze bringing some help sounds about right.
On the other END who's gonna stop TIMMAY?
PARKER?
MANU?
OBERTO?
and BRUCE from the KORNER?
thank you lord, for you have blessed this SPURS TEAM.
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