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    Why is anybody still talking about what happen in the semis?

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    NAACP supports systems of racial preference.

    Racial preference, by definition, is racist.

    Hence, NAACP has a racist agenda.

    Man, you people are dumb.
    I define racism as practices or actions that discriminate against minorities in particular. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there's no such thing as reverse racism against white people.

    However, such things are pretty recent. The NAACP has now become overrun with head politicians who are to overcome by beaurocratic bull to affect any real change. They were most effective opposing real racial injustices like Jim Crow laws, etc.

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    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there's no such thing as reverse racism against white people.
    wtf? you don't think ppl could be racist against white ppl? , I'm racist towards whities all the time

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    OldDirtMcGirt and Obstructed View......how old are you guys...seriously...


    ...at people calling the NAACP racist.... What is wrong for a national group for those black minorities....


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    You actually said that the group that Walter Williams calls "The clan with a tan" doesn't promote a racist agenda, which is laughable. What's even stupider is that you are a Suns fan in a Spurs forum who has absorbed almost constant abuse for weeks and now you are getting pissy about someone's choice of words describing someone whose name they didn't know? I suppose if it had been Bob Ryan that had said it and he'd referred to the "white guy" I'd have lost my mind and been ready to stage a ing sit in. Please. I'm done talking to you. Bring this up to me when you've grown up a little and get the over yourself. Your problem isn't the color of your skin but the thickness, or lack of it.

    Congratulations. I don't like you, and it has everything to do with the fact that you're stupid.
    Because Walter Williams is a guy in the Bill Cosby/Larry Elder mold who oppose Affirmative Action, Minimum Wage, etc. His viewpoint is also in the extreme minority amongst most black communities. By no means is he authority on what is and what is not racist.

    "White" is not considered an offensive term by many. "Colored people" is. What's the point of being stupid and provocative? I don't go around calling people I don't know "crackers", because I've got some tact.

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    I define racism as practices or actions that discriminate against minorities in particular. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there's no such thing as reverse racism against white people.
    Congratulations, you are a bigot. There's no such thing as reverse racism; it's all racism. No wonder you don't actually know it when you see it; you can't even define it properly. Oh well, you'll always have an excuse to be a victim, and you'll always have someone to blame when you fail. Hey, you should be a Suns fan. Oh wait, you are.

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    I define racism as practices or actions that discriminate against minorities in particular.
    sucks for you that the dictionary doesn't define racism the same way

    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/racism

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    It's not possible for there to be racism against white people? Tell that to Farrakhan...

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    I don't go around calling people I don't know "crackers", because I've got some tact.
    Not because it's wrong, but because you have tact. Nice moral compass.

    BTW, if you did, you'd hardly be distinguishing yourself, and I still wouldn't give a .

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    Congratulations, you are a bigot. There's no such thing as reverse racism; it's all racism. No wonder you don't actually know it when you see it; you can't even define it properly. Oh well, you'll always have an excuse to be a victim, and you'll always have someone to blame when you fail. Hey, you should be a Suns fan. Oh wait, you are.
    Reverse racism is a term that alot of conservative pundits use to describe policies like affirmative action whose intent is to help out one minority at the expense of the majority, hence "reverse racism".

    And actually I'm doing pretty well for myself, I'm not trying to blame anything on "the man". But to say that racism doesn't exist and isn't a serious problem in this country is ignorant and naive.

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    I define racism as practices or actions that discriminate against minorities in particular. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there's no such thing as reverse racism against white people.

    However, such things are pretty recent. The NAACP has now become overrun with head politicians who are to overcome by beaurocratic bull to affect any real change. They were most effective opposing real racial injustices like Jim Crow laws, etc.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism&x=0&y=0

    rac·ism /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ [rey-siz-uhm]
    -noun
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination

    dis·crim·i·na·tion /dɪˌskrɪməˈneɪʃən/ [di-skrim-uh-ney-shuhn]
    –noun
    1. an act or instance of discriminating.
    2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit

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    It's truly ironic that you've constructed a definition of racism that only applies to discrimination of one race and not discrimination of another...you have, in effect, concocted a racist definition of racism. I applaud you.

    Your definition is not only internally contradictory, it also is not correct, at least if the dictionary is an authoritative source. You are right about one thing though...discrimination against whites isn't reverse racism. It's racist, plain and simple. If you preach racial justice, you should practice it too, or you risk committing the same crimes that you are fighting against.

    And using the word "colored" is not a slur, at least not to the same degree as "######" or "jigaboo" or whatever. I can understand that some blacks may be sensitive about that particular word, but the Association dedicated solely to making you the dominant race uses the word freely, so I think you should probably lighten up a little bit.

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    sucks for you that the dictionary doesn't define racism the same way

    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/racism
    That's fine. I don't consider white people to really be very effected by perceived racism. Usually it's from totally dumbasses like Farrakhan (who pretty much is offensive to the entire human race), who don't directly affect other people's lives with their hateful drivel.

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    But to say that racism doesn't exist and isn't a serious problem in this country is ignorant and naive.
    nobody is saying that. or at least i hope they aren't.

    but it's also ignorant and naive to think that racism doesn't occur equally against white people as it does against any other race.

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    Reverse racism is a term that alot of conservative pundits use to describe policies like affirmative action whose intent is to help out one minority at the expense of the majority, hence "reverse racism".

    And actually I'm doing pretty well for myself, I'm not trying to blame anything on "the man". But to say that racism doesn't exist and isn't a serious problem in this country is ignorant and naive.
    No one is saying that. Nice way to derail the conversation by responding to an argument no one has made.

    Racism exists. It exists in whites against blacks. And it exists in blacks against whites. Your refusal to accept that fact is depressingly similar to the refusal of white society to accept its own racist tendencies a generation ago.

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    The word "racism" can have different definitions depending upon the intent of the speaker. I believe OldDirtMcGirt is speaking in the sense of systemic racism, which is different from racial bigotry, and which veritably cannot be inflicted upon the dominant race, by definition.

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    It's truly ironic that you've constructed a definition of racism that only applies only to discrimination of one race and not discrimination of another...you have, in effect, concocted a racist definition of racism. I applaud you.

    Your definition is not only internally contradictory, it also is not correct, at least if the dictionary is an authoritative source. You are right about one thing though...discrimination against whites isn't reverse racism. It's racist, plain and simple. If you preach racial justice, you should practice it too, or you risk committing the same crimes that you are fighting against.

    And using the word "colored" is not a slur, at least not to the same degree as "######" or "jigaboo" or whatever. I can understand that some blacks may be sensitive about that particular word, but the Association dedicated solely to making you the dominant race uses the word freely, so I think you should probably lighten up a little bit.
    What are some examples of racist action against white people? As far as I know, very few ins utions actually use racial quotas, they're just required to look at just as many minorities as they do any other race. And for the record, I don't support affirmative action or any sort of racial quota anyways.

    I consider the term "colored people" to be a racist term.

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    Anyone who uses the Race card on an internet argument ..... is prolly the biggest racist there is.

    Unless you are a half breed (like me) you do not understand what real racism is. We get it from both sides and do not have a race to fall back on for support.

    Stop crying about race.

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    The word "racism" can have different definitions depending upon the intent of the speaker. I believe OldDirtMcGirt is speaking in the sense of systemic racism, which is different from racial bigotry, and which veritably cannot be inflicted upon the dominant race, by definition.
    Precisely. That's way more eloquent than whatever I could come up with.

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    nobody is saying that. or at least i hope they aren't.

    but it's also ignorant and naive to think that racism doesn't occur equally against white people as it does against any other race.
    Racism doesn't occur equally against white people. Not by a longshot. I can see how some affirmative action seems to be stacking the deck against white people, but the amount of racism exhibited against the majority and dominant race isn't even close. And I'm not even talking about big things like employment or housing. Getting followed around stores, getting arrested for no apparent reason, people avoiding me on the street, locking their doors when I'm around, that's real racism that almost every white person won't experience during their life.

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    The word "racism" can have different definitions depending upon the intent of the speaker. I believe OldDirtMcGirt is speaking in the sense of systemic racism, which is different from racial bigotry, and which veritably cannot be inflicted upon the dominant race, by definition.
    Systematic racism refers to government policies and actions (hence "system") and doesn't apply to private actors working outside of a system of governance controlled primarily by one race. As such, Dirt could not have meant that pussyface using the term "colored" was systematically racist.

    EDIT: Oh, and by the way, systematic racism doesn't need to be exercised by the dominant (i.e. majority) race by definition. All that is required is that social ins utions favor one race over another. It's possible that those social ins utions will favor a minority race. Regardless, it's pretty inane to consider racial animus from-white-to-black as bad but racial animus from-black-to-white as good, which is what you are doing when you define racism as only the majority discriminating against the minority and not vice versa.
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    What are some examples of racist action against white people? As far as I know, very few ins utions actually use racial quotas, they're just required to look at just as many minorities as they do any other race. And for the record, I don't support affirmative action or any sort of racial quota anyways.

    I consider the term "colored people" to be a racist term.
    Racial quotas have become race-as-a-plus-factor (and are implemented at Michigan and Texas, two of the top 5 largest universities in the nation), but no matter how you look at it, it's not color blind, and therefore, racist, regardless of whether it's whites or blacks who end up with the racial advantage.

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    Racism doesn't occur equally against white people. Not by a longshot. I can see how some affirmative action seems to be stacking the deck against white people, but the amount of racism exhibited against the majority and dominant race isn't even close. And I'm not even talking about big things like employment or housing. Getting followed around stores, getting arrested for no apparent reason, people avoiding me on the street, locking their doors when I'm around, that's real racism that almost every white person won't experience during their life.

    Combine that with being ostricized by the black community ....... and then you would understand true racism.

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    Systematic racism refers to government policies and actions (hence "system") and doesn't apply to private actors working outside of a system of governance controlled primarily by one race. As such, Dirt could not have meant that pussyface using the term "colored" was systematically racist.
    You're thinking of ins utional racism, not systemic racism.

    Ins utional racism is state-endorsed. Systemic racism is cultural. It is the most inscrutable kind, because it does not require anybody consciously to hate anybody else, in actions or at udes, i.e. it doesn't require bigotry to sustain itself.

    And the term "colored" can be racist without being bigoted, because of its historical connotations.

    The trouble with exploring systemic racism is that term "racist" usually represents a direct attack on somebody's character, but systemic racism isn't like that. It's a general social problem.

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    So do you prefer your asterisk in Size 6

    *

    or Size 7

    *

    ?
    Admit it or not, you'd kill to have that *
    hanging from your rafters.

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    Getting followed around stores, getting arrested for no apparent reason, people avoiding me on the street, locking their doors when I'm around, that's real racism that almost every white person won't experience during their life.
    How about constantly being picked last in pickup basketball? Happens to me all the time.

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