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    If Im pop I go to Andy, and say we will give you the 7 million.

    Then turn around and immediately work out a deal with Chicago.

    Barry and and maybe a resigned Ely along with Scola and Beno might do it.
    The Spurs are going to have to get Scola to agree and sign this season first, and I think that may be an issue as well. If the Bulls value Scola as an inside scorer this could very possibly get worked out since Nocioni is expendable to them, but I just wonder how much they value Scola.

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    The Spurs are going to have to get Scola to agree and sign this season first, and I think that may be an issue as well. If the Bulls value Scola as an inside scorer this could very possibly get worked out since Nocioni is expendable to them, but I just wonder how much they value Scola.
    they don't need to sign scola.

    they can just trade his rights

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    they don't need to sign scola.

    they can just trade his rights
    The only way they're getting Nocioni is on a sign and trade, and with that they would have to have Scola agree to terms of a contract and then have the Bulls agree on the terms as well. That's if they're going after Nocioni.

    They don't have to agree to terms to sign Scola if they are trading his rights, but in a sign and trade they have to have the terms ironed out and agreed to by the other team in the deal.

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    The only way they're getting Nocioni is on a sign and trade, and with that they would have to have Scola agree to terms of a contract and then have the Bulls agree on the terms as well. That's if they're going after Nocioni.

    They don't have to agree to terms to sign Scola if they are trading his rights, but in a sign and trade they have to have the terms ironed out and agreed to by the other team in the deal.
    Umm, no they wouldnt.

    They can trade the rights to Scola end of discussion, they can include signed players as well to mitigate the cap. Draft picks have no cap value either and still can be part of said deal.

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    Umm, no they wouldnt.

    They can trade the rights to Scola end of discussion, they can include signed players as well to mitigate the cap. Draft picks have no cap value either and still can be part of said deal.
    I seriously doubt the Bulls are going to give up Nocioni for the rights to Scola - with absolutely no guarantee that Scola will even play next season in the NBA. If the Bulls are smart - they make the Spurs get Scola on terms and navigate the buyout before agreeing to send Nocioni to SA. Paxson's not an idiot - he'll make sure he knows what terms he's working with before trading for Scola.

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    I seriously doubt the Bulls are going to give up Nocioni for the rights to Scola - with absolutely no guarantee that Scola will even play next season in the NBA. If the Bulls are smart - they make the Spurs get Scola on terms and navigate the buyout before agreeing to send Nocioni to SA. Paxson's not an idiot - he'll make sure he knows what terms he's working with before trading for Scola.
    Obviously Scola by himself wouldnt get it done. You were saying that we would have to sign Scola first before we traded him.

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    http://www.elcorreodigital.com/alava...-20070702.html

    It seems that the deadline for Scola to give an answer to TAU is July 15th.
    Can a spanish speaking poster do a summary of this article, please ?
    It's now on Tau official website :
    http://www.baskonia.com/web/actualidad_1.asp

    One thing is now sure :
    Reports saying that Scola didn't want to come in nba and was ready to sign a new contract with Tau were BS.

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    anyone have a full translation of those?

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    From what I can understand, it says that the situation should be cleared before the deadline and that days are passing and the spurs didn't manifest themselves for an acquisition of his rights.
    Also that Tau's president said last year he'd like Scola to play his entire career in his team and retire here.

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    manu needs to call nocioni

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    Trade Wouldn't Come As A Surprise To Nocioni
    July 2, 2007 - 4:53 am
    Chicago Tribune -

    The Bulls like restricted free agent Andres Nocioni, and would love the hard working forward back, as long as the price is right. But the Bulls also need a scoring power forward, which would reduce Nocioni's minutes further.

    If Nocioni, resting in his homeland after a serious bout with plantar fasciitis in his right foot, commands an offer sheet in the $6 million to $8 million range, expect the Bulls to explore sign-and-trade options.

    The Spurs and Lakers are two teams that long have admired Nocioni's style of play.

    Neither team has salary-cap room, meaning they only could offer the midlevel salary-cap exception, to be set July 11 at approximately $5.5 million, which the Bulls would match.

    Nocioni may be used as sign and trade bait to land the player who would meet the team's needs, along with someone like P.J. Brown, although the Chicago Tribune reports that Brown has not yet decided whether he's going to retire or play on.

    Only the first year of Brown's signed-and-traded contract would have to be guaranteed, perhaps making it attractive to teams looking to trim payroll.

    The Bulls, as expected, contacted representatives for available big men such as Chris Mihm, Melvin Ely, Joe Smith, Corliss Williamson, Marc Jackson and Brown.

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...se_to_nocioni/

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    Do. it.

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    SpursFans are not focusing at all on the plantar facwhatever the it's called.

    No need to be concearned?
    Last edited by smeagol; 07-02-2007 at 08:23 AM.

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    He ended the season playing.Yes He is using the plantar faciliti ,but I think it is just because he wants to give his foot a good rest and rehab.

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    SpursFans are not focusing at all on the plantar facwhatever the it's called.

    No need to be concearned?
    Duncan had it last year. Don't you think he looked okay this year?

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    Him having plantar faciitis and playing poorly in the playoffs are a large reason why he's affordable enough for the Spurs to be in the S&T discussion. So his ailment is probably more of a blessing than a worry.

    Assuming he takes it easy this summer, he should be ready for regular compe ion in the fall.

    So, no it doesn't concern me very much....especially when this guy could be the answer to small-ball 4 that the Spurs need.

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    It looks like basically the Spurs have less than two weeks to try to get this Scola + filler for Nocioni deal done. It's highly unlikely the Bulls will give up Nocioni for Scola unless they get assurances that Scola will suit up for them this season.

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    Scola, Barry, Beno, Butler, picks for Nocioni, PJ Brown.

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    It's highly unlikely the Bulls will give up Nocioni for Scola unless they get assurances that Scola will suit up for them this season.
    Well, it's not happening then seeing how SpursReport is reporting he has "no desire to play in the NBA."

    In all seriousness, how much will his buyout be this summer?

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    around $2.5 M

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    This fool needs a better agent. That contract he signed with Tau back in the day was absolutely horrible.

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    so pretty much the spurs could use the MLE on Scola and package that with barry for Nocioni.


    COME ON RC. FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE DO IT MAN!!!

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    SpursFans are not focusing at all on the plantar facwhatever the it's called.

    No need to be concearned?

    Stop hating on Argies!

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    The plantar fascitis, if taken care of correctly, is prob fine.

    That doesn't bother me.

    What bothers me is, the Spurs wanting to buy out scola's contract so they can get Nocioni

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    Nocioni isn't perfect : he isn't very long or athletic, he isn't a great defender and he has his PF trouble. BUT, Spurs will never find the perfect long 3 and Nocioni has a lot of qualities. Nocioni would be a great addition to SA.

    What bothers me is, the Spurs wanting to buy out scola's contract so they can get Nocioni
    Spurs don't need to sign Scola, they just had to trade his rights.

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