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    Have to wonder if Scola isn't really part of the Spurs '08 plan rather than using him for Nocioni. A cheap 2-3 contract on a good big man is a nice filler.

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    Typical spurs.

    Going after stiffs like Matt Carroll while Nocioni could be had.
    Typical Tpark. Going after the Spurs front office for not pulling salary cap dollars out of their rear.

    so how come pop isn't like the Memphis GM and down there talkin to him....
    Probably because Pop doesn't have 10 million in cap room to play with like Memphis.

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    I wonder how excited Nocioni is about the prospect of having to sign a less than expected deal with the Bulls and then maybe being packaged in a trade to a rebuilding team. It would be nice if Nocioni would put the squeeze on the Bulls by threatening to play out his option year.

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    Sure, the Bulls would like Nocioni to help them land Gasol. I doubt he's that keen on going to Memphis, unless the Grizzlies are willing to overpay. This situation is shaping up nicely for the Spurs, provided that someone doesn't put a stupid offer in front of Nocioni.

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    An interesting question is what kind of contract can Memphis offer to Nocioni.

    Memphis total team salary will likely be at least $47.1M but the more likely is a $48.2M total salary.
    From what I've read, the salary cap should be between $54.5M and $55M.

    In the msot likely case, Memphis will have between $6.3M and $6.8M in cap space. The max contract they will be able to give to Nocioni is a 5 years contract between $36.5M and $39.4M.

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    An interesting question is what kind of contract can Memphis offer to Nocioni.

    Memphis total team salary will likely be at least $47.1M but the more likely is a $48.2M total salary.
    From what I've read, the salary cap should be between $54.5M and $55M.

    In the msot likely case, Memphis will have between $6.3M and $6.8M in cap space. The max contract they will be able to give to Nocioni is a 5 years contract between $36.5M and $39.4M.
    And they're reportedly going after Varajao.

    Could they be talking to him as a backup plan in case Varajao is matched?

    Or could they be counting on a S&T to get Noc...a deal involving big man Pau Gasol?

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    And they're reportedly going after Varajao.

    Could they be talking to him as a backup plan in case Varajao is matched?
    Or Varejao could be Nocioni backup...


    Or could they be counting on a S&T to get Noc...a deal involving big man Pau Gasol?
    We will see but I don't think they will trade gasol.

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    With Warrick and Gay why would Memphis want Nocioni?

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    With Warrick and Gay why would Memphis want Nocioni?
    Memphis will be a run and gun team next year. Nocioni will play PF for them.

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    It looks like the whole NBA is turning to the Phx loosing type of game.Good news for the spurs ,let them run and gun while we play boring/Defensive/winning Basketball.

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    Memphis will be a run and gun team next year. Nocioni will play PF for them.
    So Swift, Nocioni, Gay, Warrick, Cardinal, Miller. Lot of money now or will be tied up in 3/4s but no true power 4.. I don't see it.

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    So Swift, Nocioni, Gay, Warrick, Cardinal, Miller. Lot of money now or will be tied up in 3/4s but no true power 4.. I don't see it.
    Memphis SF/PF rotation will be Gay, Warrick and Nocioni.
    Miller will too play some SF but he should mainly play SG.
    Swift will be the backup C.
    Cardinal won't play at all.

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    Memphis SF/PF rotation will be Gay, Warrick and Nocioni.
    Miller will too play some SF but he should mainly play SG.
    Swift will be the backup C.
    Cardinal won't play at all.
    This kid Conley better be dayam good because he's going to be doing a boatload of ball handling. That team sucks.

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    This is AWESOME... Nocioni might be the only player i could stand having on the roster for not having Scola... he is the natural 3 we need to be Bowen's subs ute...

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    This is AWESOME... Nocioni might be the only player i could stand having on the roster for not having Scola... he is the natural 3 we need to be Bowen's subs ute...
    Ummm, not really. Hes definitely a 3/4 tweener and not a natural 3. But on the Spurs I do believe he would be a perfect fit.

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    Spurs would address their one major weakness if they acquired Nocioni.

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    Just bring one of them... as i said before... Scola is WAY better than Oberto... he has outplayed Dirk on the intl scene being way younger than he is.. I don;t know how much better gasol is than he actually... i don;t think the Spurs will ever bring him over because they dunwanna pay his buyout... and next year.. i don;t think Tau will let both Splitter and Scola leave the ball club together... just bring one more argentine.. Bonner... is he even close to what Nocioni could bring?

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    Just bring one of them... as i said before... Scola is WAY better than Oberto... he has outplayed Dirk on the intl scene being way younger than he is.. I don;t know how much better gasol is than he actually... i don;t think the Spurs will ever bring him over because they dunwanna pay his buyout... and next year.. i don;t think Tau will let both Splitter and Scola leave the ball club together... just bring one more argentine.. Bonner... is he even close to what Nocioni could bring?
    Tau won't have much of a choice next summer to stop either from leaving.

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    This is so brutal. We've got exactly what Chicago needs (scoring low post big man), they've got what we need (SF/small ball PF).

    ing do the trade already.

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    Just bring one of them... as i said before... Scola is WAY better than Oberto...
    That may be the case but as of now, he won't get much PT unless Bonner leaves, Horry's minutes are cut even more, and the Spurs still don't play Butler.

    he has outplayed Dirk on the intl scene being way younger than he is..
    We're not worried about Scola's offense against Dirk. We're worried about his defense against Dirk.

    I don;t know how much better gasol is than he actually...
    Now that's just stupid. You're saying Scola, who hasn't played one minute in the NBA, is better than a West All-Star.

    i don;t think the Spurs will ever bring him over because they dunwanna pay his buyout... and next year.. i don;t think Tau will let both Splitter and Scola leave the ball club together
    Then why do you keep saying to bring him over if you think he won't come?

    ... just bring one more argentine..
    Nocioni.

    Bonner... is he even close to what Nocioni could bring?
    Probably with some more PT, but as of now, no way.

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    Just a little anecdote :
    There are a crazy rumor in Spain : Nocioni could be abck to TAU next year because Nocioni wife isn't happy in the USA and that wants to go back in Spain.

    It makes me laugh to think that we could have next year Scola, Splitter and Nocioni playing for Tau.

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    That may be the case but as of now, he won't get much PT unless Bonner leaves, Horry's minutes are cut even more, and the Spurs still don't play Butler.
    Horry will only play in the playoffs to break records and claim his 8th ring... Bonner should be left away to get more talent///

    We're not worried about Scola's offense against Dirk. We're worried about his defense against Dirk.
    i think you should review the 2002 worlds semi finals against germany to see what Scola did against Dirk in that match.. Oberto was the star in that game and Manu got severly injured... but just check his work on him

    Now that's just stupid. You're saying Scola, who hasn't played one minute in the NBA, is better than a West All-Star.
    Scola does not need to come to the NBA to prove he is at the same level Pau Gasol is... do you remember what you were doing when they defeated Lebron Garnet 7 company at the Olympics?

    Then why do you keep saying to bring him over if you think he won't come?
    one thing is what i wish (Scola to come ASAP) and the other one what i sense pop and Buford will do


    Definitively
    Probably with some more PT, but as of now, no way.
    Not even in 5 years Bonner will be close to Nocioni's talent
    Last edited by urunobili; 07-03-2007 at 04:10 PM.

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    Just a little anecdote :
    There are a crazy rumor in Spain : Nocioni could be abck to TAU next year because Nocioni wife isn't happy in the USA and that wants to go back in Spain.

    It makes me laugh to think that we could have next year Scola, Splitter and Nocioni playing for Tau.
    If Oberto's wife is happy in San Antonio, maybe Nocioni's would be.

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    Chicago is cold as in Winter and NOt many Spanics there eather.
    Maybe in S.A they both will feel better.(Andres and Wife)

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    This is so brutal. We've got exactly what Chicago needs (scoring low post big man), they've got what we need (SF/small ball PF).

    ing do the trade already.

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