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If Paxon loves him as much as he says, how about a nice offer for Tyrus? Paxon has too many forwards and another one in Noah coming in. Throw us a bone Johnny...
I think you people are paying way too much attention to what Nocioni, Scola, Chicago and Memphis are doing, and not enough to the Spurs. Has there been any serious indication the Spurs are going after Nocioni? Because you could have the entire Universe properly aligned, but if the Spurs are not set on signing him, then it's all moot.
If Paxon loves him as much as he says, how about a nice offer for Tyrus? Paxon has too many forwards and another one in Noah coming in. Throw us a bone Johnny...
It appears that Nocioni is not interested in joining Memphis.
While the prospect of Nocioni leaving for Memphis without anything in return would have provided the impetus for the Bulls to seek a S&T deal which gave them something (ie Scola), it also serves to keep his price down.
Generally, teams do not want to keep a player who does not wish to remain with the club. Chicago has a glut of players at Nocioni's position. Scola is in line with what they are looking for and there is interest on the Bulls' part in Scola.
5 years, $38 mil? The Spurs better not be balking at that.
I think there is still a possibilty here. They need a Scola.
A Bulls' offer of 5 years, $38 mil starts at approximately $6.25 mil, which is roughly about $500k to 700k over the MLE.
We're still in the running...but things look clumsy now. I'm going to wait and see what else develops.
Memphis was the one team that could blow up the possibility of a Scola for Nocioni swap. Nocioni doesn't seem to want to go there, regardless of the offer. The next step is for Nocioni to balk at re-signing and force the Bulls to look for a palatable S&T opportunity. Enter the Spurs with Scola.
“I’m not prepared to lose a player for nothing,” Paxson said earlier this week.linkScola, a native of Argentina, averaged 17 points and 7.2 rebounds for Tau Ceramica in the Spanish ACB league last season.
He wants to play in the NBA badly and his representatives are hoping the Spurs, who have held Scola’s rights since drafting him in 2002, will be sympathetic to his dream. The Bulls are thought to have the most interest in acquiring Scola, 27, an accomplished inside scorer in Europe.
I don't disagree it makes sense all around. And I'd love for it to happen. But for the time being and to the best of my knowledge, there's no indication the Spurs have lifted a finger to even check on him. So in the end, the Bulls could be open to dealing Nocioni, Nocioni would love to play for the Spurs, the Spurs would be in position to get him by dealing a player the the Bulls want in Scola, and Scola would jump at the chance of playing in the NBA. But do the Spurs want Nocioni in the first place? Is there any evidence pointing to that?
The Spurs need Scola or Nocioni. Elson and Butler suck.
The Spurs are very quiet about their thoughts regarding these things. I'd be very surprised if they would not jump at the chance to get this guy for $38 mil in exchange for Scola (who isn't helping the team anyway) + filler.
The Spurs do have quite a bit to offer the Bulls. Scola could quite possibly be the answer to their single biggest need and a player like Brent Barry fills their need for a big guard to put alongside Gordon/Curry. The Spurs can alleviate the Bulls of Duhon and in turn give them a shot at a potentially quality PG in Udrih (who if nothing else could be traded for future 2nd rounders to the Cavs). I just hope that Paxson and Buford are thinking along the same lines as us and realize this trade makes sense!
But Nocioni is fine with staying in Chicago. He just wants a comparable salary from them.
And who says Nocioni wants to join the Spurs?
Nocioni going to Memphis gave the Bulls the hope of landing Gasol. Now that's been snuffed out. The scenario in which the Spurs land Nocioni is the one in which they are offering the best alternative to Chicago. As for the Spurs' interest, they aren't exactly the most forthcoming organization. Nocioni's agent is also Scola's, which is somewhat important as Scola has to be able to make the move to the NBA this summer for any potential deal to happen. Just as we haven't seen any reported interest of the Spurs, we haven't seen any statements from Nocioni saying that he'd like to be back. If the Spurs are interested, as I believe they are, it makes sense to sit back and watch how things play out before getting involved. Memphis could have easily driven up Nocioni's price by about $15 mil.
No news doesn't necessarily mean it's not going to happen. But it doesn't mean it's going to happen either. And even if the Spurs were interested but keeping things quiet, you'd think by now they would have contacted Nocioni, and that would probably end up leaking to the press one way or another.
Where is the quote?
CIA Pop...
Oddly enough, Manu is in Argentina now. Perhaps he will drop by Andres' rancho...
But that's the whole deal. You -along with many others, myself included- believe the Spurs are interested in Nocioni. There's at least some proof to pretty much every assumption we've made so far, except from that one. No paper has ever reported anything different. In fact, it's been reported the Spurs intend on standing pat, keeping the roster as is. So again, I'm not saying it can't happen. Only that we're going crazy searching for news from all angles, when we're missing the most important one: that of the Spurs.
Mike Monroe has no idea what is happening.
LuddenThe Spurs have long had interest in Chicago free-agent forward Andres Nocioni, but likely would need a sign-and-trade deal to land him, and the Bulls appear intent on trying to keep him.
Well, that sounded more like speculation on the part of the writer rather than actual news, but I will give you that at least it's something.
I guess we'll have to wait until the Spurs fully disclose their summer plans ahead of time.
Until then, the window for Scola to negotiate with another team to join them will close on July 15th when his opportunity to buy out the remaining year on his Tau contract ends. Of course, he can't negotiate with another NBA team until he is traded, and if he is a part of a sign and trade deal with a current free agent the earliest that can happen is July 11th. If anything, I would expect that the Spurs are keeping a low profile because the last thing they would want is for the league to believe that there was an agreement in place with Scola before he was dealt to another team.
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