Scola for Nocioni Picking Up Steam?

[T Park]

Here I saw all these replies to this thread, i thought there was actual news about Nocioni.

Instead I see BS coming from "GASP!!!!" A MAVS TROLL!!!


Give it a friggen break and STFU.

[FromWayDowntown]

Say what you want about the University where I teach at. I am enjoying my stay there. You aren't landing Nocioni. Teams wont help out the Spurs in terms of getting better.

You teach at a university but end sentences with prepositions?

I digress.

While I don't think that a Nocioni deal will work out, I think you're wrong to believe that teams will categorically exclude the Spurs from any negotiations.

That's particularly true in this case, since the impetus for a deal to send out Nocioni would be his independent consummation of a deal with the Spurs. It would be in Chicago's best interests at that point to make a deal because: (1) Nocioni is terribly redundant for them; (2) they still have needs of their own -- needs the Spurs might be able to fill; and (3) they would be able to at least get something for Nocioni if the deal is for just a bit above the MLE.

Again, I don't think it will work because I don't foresee the Spurs trying to make that sort of a free agent splash. But I don't think that the impediment to making a deal is the Spurs' status as the champion, again.

[T Park]

Again, I don't think it will work because I don't foresee the Spurs trying to make that sort of a free agent splash. But I don't think that the impediment to making a deal is the Spurs' status as the champion, again

IMO, if they got Nocioni, that would vault them back to the top as contenders.

They've got to improve this offseason, they just cant resign their FAs, and just say "ok Marcus, White, Butler. IMPROVE"

It can't work to win next year doing that.

[jag]

IMO, if they got Nocioni, that would vault them back to the top as contenders.

They've got to improve this offseason, they just cant resign their FAs, and just say "ok Marcus, White, Butler. IMPROVE"

It can't work to win next year doing that.

This is exactly what was said last offseason when we couldnt find a center.

Everyone wants there team to make huge blockbuster deals in the offseason. There is a reason the spurs dont have salary cap problems.

[Ken Loomis]

Here I saw all these replies to this thread, i thought there was actual news about Nocioni.

Instead I see BS coming from "GASP!!!!" A MAVS TROLL!!!


Give it a friggen break and STFU.

Yay Tpark is talking. Go stuff your triple chinned face with another jelly donut.

[FromWayDowntown]

Yay Tpark is talking. Go stuff your triple chinned face with another jelly donut.

That's a lot of TPark knowledge for someone with only 21 posts.

I'm guessing that this isn't your first screen name. That, or the legend of TPark has spread like wildfire across the internets.

In any event, it's usually not helpful to your argument to run so quickly to defensive personal cracks like that one.

[El_Mago]

Ouch.

[T Park]

JAG Im not asking for a superstar im asking for upgrading the roster.

If you think staying put with the current team as is will win? Im sorry but you would be very wrong.

[td4mvp3]

Here I saw all these replies to this thread, i thought there was actual news about Nocioni.

Instead I see BS coming from "GASP!!!!" A MAVS TROLL!!!


Give it a friggen break and STFU.

and anyone who goes with the argument of "the spurs won it this year but have no shot next year" while rooting for a team that has yet to win anything just isn't worth this much attention.

[Big P]

Quit feeding the trolls.

[Bruno]

http://www.elcorreodigital.com/alava...-20070702.html

It seems that the deadline for Scola to give an answer to TAU is July 15th.
Can a spanish speaking poster do a summary of this article, please ?

[timvp]

http://www.elcorreodigital.com/alava...-20070702.html

It seems that the deadline for Scola to give an answer to TAU is July 15th.
Can a spanish speaking poster do a summary of this article, please ?

Yeah, that's in need of a translation. I think it says that Scola's contract expires June 30th, 2008. And that he has until July 15th this year to possibly buy out the final year of his contract.

Or I could be way off.

[timvp]

http://www.elcorreodigital.com/alava...-20070702.html

It seems that the deadline for Scola to give an answer to TAU is July 15th.
Can a spanish speaking poster do a summary of this article, please ?

I think it might also mention a Nocioni trade possibility

[Pablo Escobar]

The light will be opening treads the next days to clarify the future sport of the TAU. The past it made Thursday with the celebration of “draft” of NBA and the election of Tiago Splitter in number 28 in charge of San Antonio Spurs and already will continue at the time of clearing the incognito with respect to a capital piece; Luis Scola. The vitoriano club delay to know this week incoming if the Buenosairean wing-pívot continues or in Vitoria one more season or does not manage to give the jump NBA, that dream that every summer is made a little more unattainable. According to it stipulates his contract, that it does not expire until the 30 of June of 2008, the azulgrana captain must of term until next day 15 to present/display to the baskonista organization a proposal signs arrival from the other side of the Atlantic that allows to break its azulgrana connection by means of the corresponding payment of the rescission clause. Nevertheless, as much from the TAU as from the surroundings of the player one trusts that the panorama is clarified before. In opinion of the agent of Scola, Claudius Villanueva, “this type of operations or takes place in one week or they never occur”. “I do not believe that he happens of this week”, the representative calculates. And while the term is exhausted, the days follow one another without the Spurs has considered a crossing of the rights of Scola, a do-nothing policy that enlarges the hopes of which the TAU maintains in list to their ship standard on the park. In fact, the election of Splitter in the recent “lottery of novices” increases the conviction that still more the tejana tax exemption has parked desire completely to recruit the albiceleste player. Only an equipment of the American compe ion has considered an operation with Scola like protagonist. The Chicago Bulls recently hefted the possibility of an exchange that would command to Nocioni to the Spurs and it would allow them to recruit the azulgrana captain. Nevertheless, resemblance movement has been discarded of plane before the desire of the ex- baskonista eaves of not exerting of currency of right change in the summer in which it must sign his second contract in NBA. At the moment, the “Chapu” is restricted free agent, can sign a contract with any tax exemption and the Bulls has the right to equal the supply to maintain it in their rows. And is not going it to need to proposals to once open Nocioni the market of free agents. Renovation A hypothetical future in NBA for Scola happens to saturate in another destiny that is not the one of the present champion of the best league of the world. But the present maintains to him like referential player in the vitoriano equipment with one more season of contract and the possibility of renewing its bond with the TAU. The last summer the club already proposed the prorogation to him of its contract and the azulgrana president, Hustles Querejeta, always has proclaimed their desire that Scola retires dressing the elastic baskonista. to close its continuity, Scola would fulfill his eighth season in Vitoria.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Sheesh, the interpreted version of the article made less sense than the original.

[Slinkyman]

chicago tribune

By K.C. Johnson
Tribune staff reporter
Published July 2, 2007

Nobody can accuse Bulls general manager John Paxson of not being direct.

Agents and players say his philosophy in negotiations is to attempt to be fair, honest and above board.

Perhaps that's why Andres Nocioni is telling contacts in Argentina he wouldn't be surprised to be traded this summer.

Nocioni, 27, told those same contacts that Paxson informed him in his season-exit interview that the Bulls' No. 1 off-season goal is to acquire a scoring power forward.

That might even further limit minutes for the manic Nocioni, who happens to play both at power forward and the same small-forward position as a burgeoning All-Star in Luol Deng.

The Bulls respect and appreciate Nocioni's grit, determination and skill.

They would also gladly welcome the restricted free agent back—at the right price.

But if Nocioni, resting in his homeland after a serious bout with plantar fasciitis in his right foot, commands an offer sheet in the $6 million to $8 million range, expect the Bulls to explore sign-and-trade options.

The Spurs and Lakers are two teams that long have admired Nocioni's style of play.

Neither team has salary-cap room, meaning they only could offer the midlevel salary-cap exception, to be set July 11 at approximately $5.5 million.

The Bulls would match that salary.

But the Bulls might attempt to offer Nocioni, whose first choice is to return to the Bulls, as sign-and-trade bait in a larger deal as they monitor the Kevin Garnett sweepstakes in Minnesota and perhaps revisit talks with the Grizzlies regarding Pau Gasol.

Sunday marked the first day of the free-agent recruiting period. Players can agree to terms but are prohibited from signing contracts until July 11.

The Bulls, as expected, contacted representatives for available big men such as Chris Mihm, Melvin Ely, Joe Smith, Corliss Williamson, Marc Jackson and P.J. Brown.

Chicago-based agent Mark Bartelstein said on Sunday that Brown is out of the country until the middle of this week and hasn't decided if he will retire after a solid 14-year NBA career.

That also means Brown hasn't decided on whether he'd be amenable to a sign-and-trade scenario should the Bulls be able to interest a team to take his expiring contract as part of a larger deal.

Only the first year of Brown's signed-and-traded contract would have to be guaranteed, perhaps making it attractive to teams looking to trim payroll.

The Mavericks are one team that could express interest in Brown, who, as an unrestricted free agent, can sign with any team without involving the Bulls.

Bartelstein also represents Mikki Moore, who might interest the Bulls but is expected to re-sign with the Nets.

Mihm might be the most intriguing possibility for the Bulls, who are armed with the midlevel salary-cap exception as well as the biannual veteran's exception worth approximately $1.8 million.

Mihm averaged 10.2 points on 50.1 percent shooting and 6.2 rebounds in 59 games for the 2005-06 Lakers before missing all of last season following two ankle surgeries.

A person familiar with Mihm's status said the 7-footer isn't in game shape but is 100 percent physically and eager to play after his initial ankle injury and first surgery weren't diagnosed properly.

It's unknown if the Bulls contacted David Falk, the agent for Keith Van Horn, who, like Mihm, sat out last season after averaging 8.9 points for the Mavericks in 59 games in 2005-06.


hmmm... scola/ely + junk for nocioni?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Scola+Ely+Barry+2nd rounder for Nocioni.

[Darkwaters]

I guess I don't understand why the Bulls would have interest in Ely (especially after they just drafted Noah and Gray) but...whatever. A S&T of Ely + Barry + Scola's rights + draft picks (a pair of 2nd rounders most likely) would be a decent trade. Ely is a guy that they apparently think could potentially warrant a double down low and obviously the same can be said with more assurance about Scola. This being the principle piece that the Bulls are lacking in their offensive scheme makes them both valuable. Barry is a scrap for us at this point and is primarily there for salary purposes. But with small guards like JamesOn Curry and Ben Gordon on the Bulls roster a taller combo guard like Barry could have some value when paired in the backcourt with them. Gordon and Curry could fire away while Barry helped create.

This trade makes sense for both sides and it really just comes down to what other offers are out there for Nocioni.

[T Park]

Damn, could this be for real?

[T Park]

Its like, its there.

You want to just scream at the Spurs DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!

[whottt]

C'mon Johnny...you were a Spur once, do the right thing.

[whottt]

WTF do the Lakers want with Nocioni? They only have like 42 SF and PF on their roster. Hopefully Nocioni will notice that.

[T Park]

If Im pop I go to Andy, and say we will give you the 7 million.

Then turn around and immediately work out a deal with Chicago.

Barry and and maybe a resigned Ely along with Scola and Beno might do it.

[Manudona]

Well, I am sure a roster with

Ginobili
Oberto
Nocioni
And
Delfino

Would have lots of balls

[whottt]

Well, I am sure a roster with

Ginobili
Oberto
Nocioni
And
Delfino

Would have lots of balls

And one guranteed asshole.