As It Stands: Spurs Salaries

[exstatic]

Spurs' reckless experiments with D-League make them to go above luxury tax threshold
Marcus Williams -- $31,731
Keith Langford -- $58,929
Dermarr Johnson -- $54,396
Jeremy Richardson -- $90,660

If they really didn't want to go over, they wouldn't have signed Damon. So much for "The Spurs won't pay the tax!!". Won't be the first time, either, but they still have time to dump Elson for a cheaper ending contract.

[timmy21_4rings]

If they really didn't want to go over, they wouldn't have signed Damon. So much for "The Spurs won't pay the tax!!". Won't be the first time, either, but they still have time to dump Elson for a cheaper ending contract.

Spurs signing Damon is not a calculated move, it is a desperate move. I am not saying Spurs never paid tax..So far Spur's D-league music chair play has not worked.

With Shaq's signing, I do not see Elson moving anywhere. Even if he goes, we will get back a center..I am not sure the final product would be better than what we lose. It is because not many people will be willing takers of Elson. Most probably, he will go with another player that may be a contributor to our team which we may or may not compensate with the incoming player.

[Bruno]

An update after the Kurt Thomas trade :

So, Spurs salaries against the luxury tax are :
Tim Duncan -- $19,014,188
Tony Parker -- $10,500,000
Manu Ginobili -- $9,079,811
Kurt Thomas -- $8,091,188
Bruce Bowen -- $4,125,000
Robert Horry -- $3,630,000
Fabricio Oberto -- $3,500,000
Michael Finley -- $3,103,000
Matt Bonner -- $2,700,000
Ime Udoka -- $1,000,000
Jacque Vaughn -- $1,219,590
Ian Mahinmi -- $625,840
Darius Washington -- $290,112
Marcus Williams -- $31,731
Keith Langford -- $58,929
Dermarr Johnson -- $54,396
Jeremy Richardson -- $90,660
Damon Stoudamire -- $335,442
Money given to training camp players -- $25,000

Spurs total salary against the luxury tax -- $67,474,887

The luxury tax threshold is $67.865M, Spurs are $390,113 under it.

If Spurs sign a player today for the reminder of the season, it will $253,848 cost against the tax.

The soonest Spurs are allowed to sign Barry (if he is waived and don't sign with another team) is March 22nd. If they sign him that day for the reminder of the season with a min salary, it will cost them $117,858.

So Spurs can sign now a player and keep the possibility to sign Barry when it will be allowed by the CBA without going over the tax.

We will see what Spurs will decided to do, signing D-League players to 10 days contract, signing a vet who doesn't play or who will be waived by his team before March 1st or doing nothing. Spurs have the financial flexibility to do what they want.

[timvp]

Thanks for the update. I was about to go through those numbers myself.

I'd like to see the Spurs bring in a fifth swingman with this money they saved. The best option is a Barry return, however I don't think that's a sure bet. A team like the Suns or the Mavs may throw more money at Barry than the Spurs will. Plus if Barry wasn't made aware of such a plan, he could see this trade a slap in the face.

If a team like the Suns promises him a spot in the rotation plus more money, why would Barry return to the Spurs for less money and the very likely possibility that Pop would rather use Udoka ahead of him?

If Barry isn't brought back, there needs to be someone brought in. From the Toros, Keith Langford would make the most sense but I'm far from being sold on him. I'd rather a veteran player. , bringing in Latrell Sprewell as an emergency fifth swingman might not be a bad option if Barry doesn't pan out . . .

Another swingmen who might get bought out who'd make a decent amount of sense is Gordon Giricek. Giricek sucks but for a minimum paid fifth wing, you can do a lot worse.

[Phenomanul]

Thanks for the update. I was about to go through those numbers myself.

I'd like to see the Spurs bring in a fifth swingman with this money they saved. The best option is a Barry return, however I don't think that's a sure bet. A team like the Suns or the Mavs may throw more money at Barry than the Spurs will. Plus if Barry wasn't made aware of such a plan, he could see this trade a slap in the face.

If a team like the Suns promises him a spot in the rotation plus more money, why would Barry return to the Spurs for less money and the very likely possibility that Pop would rather use Udoka ahead of him?

If Barry isn't brought back, there needs to be someone brought in. From the Toros, Keith Langford would make the most sense but I'm far from being sold on him. I'd rather a veteran player. , bringing in Latrell Sprewell as an emergency fifth swingman might not be a bad option if Barry doesn't pan out . . .

Another swingmen who might get bought out who'd make a decent amount of sense is Gordon Giricek. Giricek sucks but for a minimum paid fifth wing, you can do a lot worse.

Barry going to Phoenix or the Lakers would be deadly against the Spurs.

Bruno, was Barry's value above the combination of his salary with Elson's?

[101A]

Thanks for the update. I was about to go through those numbers myself.

I'd like to see the Spurs bring in a fifth swingman with this money they saved. The best option is a Barry return, however I don't think that's a sure bet. A team like the Suns or the Mavs may throw more money at Barry than the Spurs will. Plus if Barry wasn't made aware of such a plan, he could see this trade a slap in the face.

If a team like the Suns promises him a spot in the rotation plus more money, why would Barry return to the Spurs for less money and the very likely possibility that Pop would rather use Udoka ahead of him?

If Barry isn't brought back, there needs to be someone brought in. From the Toros, Keith Langford would make the most sense but I'm far from being sold on him. I'd rather a veteran player. , bringing in Latrell Sprewell as an emergency fifth swingman might not be a bad option if Barry doesn't pan out . . .

Another swingmen who might get bought out who'd make a decent amount of sense is Gordon Giricek. Giricek sucks but for a minimum paid fifth wing, you can do a lot worse.

This whole deal is within the family. If Seattle immediately wants to buy Barry out; and the Spurs make overtures to sign him; I'm pretty sure he would know what's what.

Why would he choose SA over Dallas or Phoenix, despite possibly more $$$? He and his family live here, for one. He's a popular player, knows the system; and gets thirty days off.

I don't know that that will happen, but if he gets bought out, and the Spurs want him back; I'm betting he comes back.

[Bruno]

Bruno, was Barry's value above the combination of his salary with Elson's?

It is Kurt Thomas. I've changed salaries without changing names.
Thanks for pointing it.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Spurs total salary against the luxury tax -- $67,474,887

The luxury tax threshold is $67.865M, Spurs are $390,113 under it.

If Spurs sign a player today for the reminder of the season, it will $253,848 cost against the tax.

The soonest Spurs are allowed to sign Barry (if he is waived and don't sign with another team) is March 22nd. If they sign him that day for the reminder of the season with a min salary, it will cost them $117,858.

So Spurs can sign now a player and keep the possibility to sign Barry when it will be allowed by the CBA without going over the tax.

We will see what Spurs will decided to do, signing D-League players to 10 days contract, signing a vet who doesn't play or who will be waived by his team before March 1st or doing nothing. Spurs have the financial flexibility to do what they want.

Amazing. The Spurs sure know how to balance their checkbook.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The Thomas move allows them to sign two more deals and still be $19K under the cap.

Unfreakingbelievable.

[ChumpDumper]

So the Spurs can take on another player if they choose without paying the tax. Hopefully they audition some more young swingmen in the coming weeks.

[Holt's Cat]

So the Spurs can take on another player if they choose without paying the tax. Hopefully they audition some more young swingmen in the coming weeks.

Giricek.

ROFL.

[timvp]

The only piece this team needs now is the elusive Long Small Forward. Which means the Spurs will sign a short shooting guard.

[Holt's Cat]

The only piece this team needs now is the elusive Long Small Forward. Which means the Spurs will sign a short shooting guard.

DerMarr?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know what happened to DerMarr between last Friday and Saturday, but he sure looked like an NBA player that second game. I'll see if he continues that tonight.

Otherwise it's kind of the usual D-League suspects -- Keith Langford (last chance, I guess), Marcus Williams (also improving), Sean Banks (getting pretty consistent this season), Kasib Powell (quite good on offense and defense) -- that's about all that's left worth looking at.

[Ghost Writer]

If I am Manu, I demand contract renegotiations after this season.

How can he be making less than Parker?

[ChumpDumper]

If I am Manu, I demand contract renegotiations after this season.

I suppose he could demand it, but I can't see why since it isn't allowed.

[Holt's Cat]

I suppose he could demand it, but I can't see why since it isn't allowed.

ROFL. Perhaps an extension?

[jcrod]

I don't know what happened to DerMarr between last Friday and Saturday, but he sure looked like an NBA player that second game. I'll see if he continues that tonight.

Otherwise it's kind of the usual D-League suspects -- Keith Langford (last chance, I guess), Marcus Williams (also improving), Sean Banks (getting pretty consistent this season), Kasib Powell (quite good on offense and defense) -- that's about all that's left worth looking at.

When is it the latest they can sign him to be eligible for the playoffs?

[Bruno]

So the Spurs can take on another player if they choose without paying the tax. Hopefully they audition some more young swingmen in the coming weeks.

If Barry sign a multiyear contract, he will cost more against the luxury tax ($186,526).
Spurs will be $203,587 under the tax. If they sign a player on March 4th or after, he could be kept for the reminder of the season.

Maybe they will sign a D-leaguer (Marcus Williams ) on March 4th to a 10 days contract. With Spurs deep roster, the 15th spot could be dedicated to a prospect.

[Ghost Writer]

ROFL. Perhaps an extension?

Yes. Whatever...


Is Chump right? If so, just another reason why the NBA is better than other leagues.

Plaxico Burress want to renegotiate on the strength of his playoffs in the NFL.

[MajorMike]

So Brent is going to get a pro-rated vet min?

[Quasar]

Otherwise it's kind of the usual D-League suspects -- Keith Langford (last chance, I guess), Marcus Williams (also improving), Sean Banks (getting pretty consistent this season), Kasib Powell (quite good on offense and defense) -- that's about all that's left worth looking at.

Wasn't Langford signed by some European team??

[ChumpDumper]

I think the only way a contract could be renegotiated is if the team is under the cap.

[jcrod]

Yes. Whatever...


Is Chump right? If so, just another reason why the NBA is better than other leagues.

Plaxico Burress want to renegotiate on the strength of his playoffs in the NFL.

Yeah, well the NFL salary structure is screwed up. Why do you think you don't see many trades.

[ChumpDumper]

Wasn't Langford signed by some European team??

I think he is supposed to leave for Italy today. We'll find out in a few hours if that actually happened.