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[da_suns_fan__]

i didn't write the above. it said it's quoted by me. my point is i can't wait until next year. in the playoffs you have to admit there has to be a little luck running on your side to hold that trophy and those breaks didn't go for the Suns. it didn't in game 1 when Nash was kicking your ass with his nose busted open and was forced to sit. It didn't go for the Suns when 2 of there studs were suspended for NOTHING for what your piece of player did in game 4. the breaks all went your way. it's all good, though because myself and a whole lot of others will always view the Spurs through ** asterick ** eyes

Amen Brotha!

[da_suns_fan__]

And that's why you deserve to lose.

You think it was fair that the Spurs missed the chance to repeat in 2000 because Duncan was injured? You think Spurs fans liked the 0.4 nonsense in '04? You think the freak Ginobili foul on Dirk went down well in '06? The breaks fall however they fall, but if you're good enough to win anyway, you win. If you're not, you don't.

If the Suns had built a better lead earlier or someone else had stepped up, they could have won game 1, despite the freak Nash injury. They could have taken the series lead by winning game 3. If the Suns had better player discipline, they would never have had their guys suspended for game 5. If they were resilient enough, they could have won game 6 and sent the series back to Phoenix for a deciding game. There were a lot of opportunities.

The Suns did none of those things. They weren't good enough. Accept it like a man, move on, and wait for next year. Maybe your team will do better then. But whining and assigning bogus "asterisks" is for people who will always be losers, even if they win.

But they did win game 4!!!

As Marc Stein put it, they "Took control of the series" and won back homecourt advantage.

I would have like to have seen the teams decide the outcome...not the league's ruling.

What I don't see is Spurs fans claiming they would have won it anyway.

I thinks its obvious the Suns were the superior team and definately would have won game 5.

Spurs would have been KILLED in a game seven in Phoenix. Not to mention who knows how the Suns or Spurs would have responded with the Suns leading 3-2 in a game six.

The league screwed both teams. Suns never got a fair shot, and the Spurs (especially Tony Parker) keep having to answer the "do you think you would have won if the suspensions never happened?" question.

[UV Ray]

Amen Brotha!

[Ariel]

But they did win game 4!!!

As Marc Stein put it, they "Took control of the series" and won back homecourt advantage.

I would have like to have seen the teams decide the outcome...not the league's ruling.

What I don't see is Spurs fans claiming they would have won it anyway.

I thinks its obvious the Suns were the superior team and definately would have won game 5.

Spurs would have been KILLED in a game seven in Phoenix. Not to mention who knows how the Suns or Spurs would have responded with the Suns leading 3-2 in a game six.

The league screwed both teams. Suns never got a fair shot, and the Spurs (especially Tony Parker) keep having to answer the "do you think you would have won if the suspensions never happened?" question.

Let's leave that game 5 aside. Still, for the Suns to take the series they would have had to beat the Spurs 2 out of 2 times (games 5 and 7). Considering the Suns at full strength only managed to beat the Spurs 2 out of 5 times, one could estimate the odds of one such event happening at 40%. For that to happen twice, the odds would drop to 16%. And though I admit one cannot make such oversimplification of an inherently complex matter, I think that's much closer to reality than that one that assumes because a short handed Suns team put up a fight, a full strength team would have beaten the Spurs. You never know. Maybe they wouldn't have been motivated enough, maybe the starters would have played worse than the backups. , I think it's pretty clear Marion's performances were all significantly less impressive when Stoudemire was on the court, and Kurt Thomas wouldn't have had the chance to contribute as much. And that doesn't even take into account the additional game they would have had to win. So maybe things could have gone different, more than likely not. But where does the certainty the Suns would have moved on come from, I'm not quite sure.

[UV Ray]

Let's leave that game 5 aside. Still, for the Suns to take the series they would have had to beat the Spurs 2 out of 2 times (games 5 and 7). Considering the Suns at full strength only managed to beat the Spurs 2 out of 5 times, one could estimate the odds of one such event happening at 40%. For that to happen twice, the odds would drop to 16%. And though I admit one cannot make such oversimplification of an inherently complex matter, I think that's much closer to reality than that one that assumes because a short handed Suns team put up a fight, a full strength team would have beaten the Spurs. You never know. Maybe they wouldn't have been motivated enough, maybe the starters would have played worse than the backups. , I think it's pretty clear Marion's performances were all significantly less impressive when Stoudemire was on the court, and Kurt Thomas wouldn't have had the chance to contribute as much. And that doesn't even take into account the additional game they would have had to win. So maybe things could have gone different, more than likely not. But where does the certainty the Suns would have moved on come from, I'm not quite sure.

[justanotherspursfan]

What I don't see is Spurs fans claiming they would have won it anyway.

That's because counterfactual conditionals are a waste of time. Yeah, I think the Spurs would have won it anyway, but arguing about what would have happened is pointless.

Grownups, when they fail, don't focus on the breaks that didn't go their way, because they have no control over them. Grownups focus on the parts they can improve on their own and take control of. Making excuses is strictly for the immature.

In the last 9 years, the Spurs have won 4 les, but they haven't won 5 of them. Some of the losses were brutally close, while others weren't. The losses count the same either way. The team got better by figuring out what they had to do to improve, not by blaming losses on bad breaks or luck.

Some of the Suns seem to get this. Others don't. I doubt your organization will ever win the le until they understand this lesson.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

3 strikes and I'm out!

[IGNORANT MAVS FAN]

But they did win game 4!!!

As Marc Stein put it, they "Took control of the series" and won back homecourt advantage.

The suns lost home court in game 1. In order for the the suns to have control of the series they would of had to have led at some point. But they never did.

I would have like to have seen the teams decide the outcome...not the league's ruling.

Um the league enforced a rule that has been a part of the game for years. Its no wonder the suns cant even win a championship, they cant even remember a simple ing rule.

What I don't see is Spurs fans claiming they would have won it anyway.

Thats because spurs fans dont need moral victories, but hey whatever suns fan needs to sleep at night.

I thinks its obvious the Suns were the superior team and definately would have won game 5.

The superior team wouldn't hang their hat on a 1 game suspension because I mean after all it was a best out of 7 games series, not 1.

Spurs would have been KILLED in a game seven in Phoenix. Not to mention who knows how the Suns or Spurs would have responded with the Suns leading 3-2 in a game six.

Could of would have should have.

The league screwed both teams. Suns never got a fair shot,

Yeah, it was so unfair how the league let David Blaine use his magic and let Manu have magnets in his hands.

[IGNORANT MAVS FAN]

I like it in my ass.

[milkyway21]

Duncan ave against the Suns in the 2007 playoffs
27 PPG
14 rbds
almost had a triple-double in the game 6 with 24 pts., 13 rbds and 9 blocks.

you guys think Hill is the answer next season? They can finally win against us?

IMO, KG would be the better option. I'm still not scared of Phoenix.

[Fast Dunk]

Nice slapping by the Suns fan...

[yourcheatinheart]

And that's why you deserve to lose.

You think it was fair that the Spurs missed the chance to repeat in 2000 because Duncan was injured? You think Spurs fans liked the 0.4 nonsense in '04? You think the freak Ginobili foul on Dirk went down well in '06? The breaks fall however they fall, but if you're good enough to win anyway, you win. If you're not, you don't.

If the Suns had built a better lead earlier or someone else had stepped up, they could have won game 1, despite the freak Nash injury. They could have taken the series lead by winning game 3. If the Suns had better player discipline, they would never have had their guys suspended for game 5. If they were resilient enough, they could have won game 6 and sent the series back to Phoenix for a deciding game. There were a lot of opportunities.

The Suns did none of those things. They weren't good enough. Accept it like a man, move on, and wait for next year. Maybe your team will do better then. But whining and assigning bogus "asterisks" is for people who will always be losers, even if they win.

like the kind of self control and discipline Tim Duncan has walking 5 feet onto the court when James Jones and Francisco Elson get tangled up under the basket?? it is also my opinoin about the *'s, you cant think whatever the you want. that's why it's a discussion board.

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[Fast Dunk]

This is what Gilbert Arenas wrote on his blog about the Finals:

Finals Thoughts
I caught the game on Tuesday because I had the Cavs winning Game 3. Like most people are saying, I think the series has been pretty boring. You have two grind-it-out teams. But it’s good. I get to see Larry Hughes play in the championship, LeBron play in the championship, you get to see if “The Mouth,” Damon Jones, can get some time. You also get to see Tony Parker, who I’m good friends with, most likely win his third championship and maybe even the MVP.

[Fast Dunk_]

i said my piece and i'm cool with that

Some pretty weak takes, but you're a sun fan I wouldn't expect anything better.

[Fast Dunk_]

This is what Gilbert Arenas wrote on his blog about the Finals:

Finals Thoughts
I caught the game on Tuesday because I had the Cavs winning Game 3. Like most people are saying, I think the series has been pretty boring. You have two grind-it-out teams. But it’s good. I get to see Larry Hughes play in the championship, LeBron play in the championship, you get to see if “The Mouth,” Damon Jones, can get some time. You also get to see Tony Parker, who I’m good friends with, most likely win his third championship and maybe even the MVP.

I masturbate to articles like this all the time.

[yourcheatinheart]

Let's leave that game 5 aside. Still, for the Suns to take the series they would have had to beat the Spurs 2 out of 2 times (games 5 and 7). Considering the Suns at full strength only managed to beat the Spurs 2 out of 5 times, one could estimate the odds of one such event happening at 40%. For that to happen twice, the odds would drop to 16%. And though I admit one cannot make such oversimplification of an inherently complex matter, I think that's much closer to reality than that one that assumes because a short handed Suns team put up a fight, a full strength team would have beaten the Spurs. You never know. Maybe they wouldn't have been motivated enough, maybe the starters would have played worse than the backups. , I think it's pretty clear Marion's performances were all significantly less impressive when Stoudemire was on the court, and Kurt Thomas wouldn't have had the chance to contribute as much. And that doesn't even take into account the additional game they would have had to win. So maybe things could have gone different, more than likely not. But where does the certainty the Suns would have moved on come from, I'm not quite sure.

No one will ever know

[Fast Dunk]

Hint: POST COUNT

[yourcheatinheart]

Some pretty weak takes, but you're a sun fan I wouldn't expect anything better.

hey feel free to drop in and contribute anytime jackass

[Fast Dunk_]

hey feel free to drop in and contribute anytime jackass

Why when your pretty much saying the same old thats been said by many a sun fan who have a hard time of letting go. Bring something good and then get back to me.

[yourcheatinheart]

Why when your pretty much saying the same old thats been said by many a sun fan who have a hard time of letting go. Bring something good and then get back to me.

cause what's worse than losing 4-2?? getting your ass bounced in 4 games. Jesus Christ did the Cavs even put up a fight, those heartless bas s??

[Fast Dunk]

actually win a game in the finals and get back to me

Don't pay attention to this guy he is a loser spurs fan trying to be a clone.

[Fast Dunk_]

actually win a game in the finals and get back to me

get to the finals and then get to me.

[Fast Dunk]

get to the finals and then get to me.

Actually they have reached the finals asswipe!

[Fast Dunk_]

I'm so stupid. I obviously dont know about basketball.

[yourcheatinheart]

cleveland's heart was about as big as the lime sitting in my corona