Bring Scola in.

[Bruno]

So Bruno posted yesterday on ST at 11:37AM that Spurs could be interested in Outlaw and spurssheriff posted yesterday on SR at 6:01PM that Scola could be traded to Portland.

[timvp]

So Bruno posted yesterday on ST at 11:37AM that Spurs could be interested in Outlaw and spurssheriff posted yesterday on SR at 6:01PM that Scola could be traded to Portland.

What's especially funny is Portland wouldn't be interested in Scola. They've purposely surrounded Oden with post players who can hit a jump shot. Scola is instead a low post player.

Again, I realize SR has to make things up to salvage some sort of traffic, but they should really think things through a little more.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

Read the thread.

you saying less then 14mill, which is a guess on your part


so there is no answer



and that number is ridiculously high

[Kori Ellis]

so there is no answer

Exactly. No one knows. Tau probably has some guidelines about what they are willing to take, but there's no definitive answer.

[drmvp]

So Bruno posted yesterday on ST at 11:37AM that Spurs could be interested in Outlaw and spurssheriff posted yesterday on SR at 6:01PM that Scola could be traded to Portland.

That's hilarious if the implications of your statement are true.

He even goes so far as to add plausible deniability by adding the words "[f]or whom/what I do not know" (as if he weren't thinking about your Outlaw suggestion).

[Bruno]

What's especially funny is Portland wouldn't be interested in Scola. They've purposely surrounded Oden with post players who can hit a jump shot. Scola is instead a low post player.

Again, I realize SR has to make things up to salvage some sort of traffic, but they should really think things through a little more.

And it's even more stupid when you realize that they have tons of bigmen : Oden, Aldridge, Frye, McRoberts, Przybilla, LaFrentz and Freeland waiting in europe.

He should have starting something like : Spurs, Bulls and Blazers are working on a 3 teams trade with Scola going to Chicago, Bulls giving a pick to Blazers and Outlaw going to Spurs.

[waly.mg]

Scola is looking to become the richest second round draft pick in NBA history.

Richer than Manu?

[timvp]

Richer than Manu?

I'm talking about initial NBA contract. Manu's initial NBA contract was $2.7M.

[drmvp]

Richer than Manu?

I'm sure he means the richest initial contract signed by a second rounder.

[waly.mg]

ok

But look at this

Nocioni initial contract was 3 years - 10 millions

And Scola is better than Nocioni in the FIBA World

Now Nocioni is going to sign a 38 millions contract, and everybody want Scola por 10 millions

If Noce is a 30 millions player, Scola is at least 20 millions

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

ok

But look at this

Nocioni initial contract was 3 years - 10 millions

And Scola is better than Nocioni in the FIBA World

Now Nocioni is going to sign a 38 millions contract, and everybody want Scola por 10 millions

If Noce is a 30 millions player, Scola is at least 20 millions

but the Spurs aren't willing to pay that much for a player who has never played a second in the NBA


but I know he would be great in the NBA

[waly.mg]

And are paying 9 millions to Bonner who can´t be a great player in the NBA

Angel Cabera isn´t a PGA Tour Player and won the US Open

In Europe and all over the world, the Ring and the ball is the same

The Fact is:

NBA Player is always expensive, and the FIBA players are allways cheaper

But the Best FIBA players are better than a lot of NBA Players

For Example, Luke Walton only can clean Scola´s Shoes, and he´s signing for 30 millions

[leemajors]

And are paying 9 millions to Bonner who can´t be a great player in the NBA

Angel Cabera isn´t a PGA Tour Player and won the US Open

In Europe and all over the world, the Ring and the ball is the same

The Fact is:

NBA Player is always expensive, and the FIBA players are allways cheaper

But the Best FIBA players are better than a lot of NBA Players

For Example, Luke Walton only can clean Scola´s Shoes, and he´s signing for 30 millions

then he can earn big money on his second contract like everyone else.

[waly.mg]

but the Spurs aren't willing to pay that much for a player who has never played a second in the NBA


but I know he would be great in the NBA

so the Spurs aren´t to have this players with that point, nice Job

We can pay Jackie Butler 2 million for play in the summer league but not 4 million for a player who can play all over the world (Olympics and WC)

[waly.mg]

then he can earn big money on his second contract like everyone else.

Where is that rule?

[timvp]

ok

But look at this

Nocioni initial contract was 3 years - 10 millions

Difference is Nocioni was a free agent. While Scola would likely be worth $9M, it doesn't change the fact that he'd become the highest paid second round draft pick in NBA history.

[leemajors]

Where is that rule?

if he does well, he'll get huge offers on his second contract. everyone does.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

And are paying 9 millions to Bonner who can´t be a great player in the NBA

Angel Cabera isn´t a PGA Tour Player and won the US Open

In Europe and all over the world, the Ring and the ball is the same

The Fact is:

NBA Player is always expensive, and the FIBA players are allways cheaper

But the Best FIBA players are better than a lot of NBA Players

For Example, Luke Walton only can clean Scola´s Shoes, and he´s signing for 30 millions

good point, Bonner signing was a damn joke



and I think the Spurs SHOULD bring him over ASAP, but I don't think the Spurs will


Spurs are too cheap

[SequSpur]

Where does Ian Mahimi fit in this picture for next year? Let's not forget about him. I don't care if Elson is gone. He reminds me too much of Mohammed.

Mahimi doesn't fit on the downtown Y team. The only reason they drafted him was to prevent payments to a guaranteed contract.


And, if there is an argument that Scola was a better option at 9 million then Bonner, I am all for that argument.

Bonner sucks ass and has no business getting minutes on this team.

[objective]

I guess we'll find out. I think they'll certainly be times in the future when Pop will want to spread the floor without going small. Bonner will make that possible.

I guess we will. My guess is that Bonner's next three years with the Spurs barring lengthy injuries tot he players ahead of him will be more Ferry than Horry with regards to playing time and place in rotation, in spite of his three point shooting skills and Derrick Dial-esque crashing of the offensive boards. If you disagree, then we'll have to agree to disagree.

The only game I can ever remember Ferry started at power forward for the Spurs was Game 2 against PHX in '03. And the reason for that was because the Suns played small back then with Marion at power forward for much of the game. That was Pop going with a small ball unit.

1. The Suns under Frank Johnson actually played Amare at power forward a lot with a real center, not good centers, but centers nonetheless with Scott Williams and Jake Voskuhl. They didn't play Marion at 4 as much as they have the last 3 years.

I think that's a poor comparison for Scola. First of all, Rose didn't get many touches in the post. Rose was a player who scored either off of offensive rebounds or jumpers. Very rarely did he score on the low block. And I don't remember ever Pop drawing up a play to post up Rose. Rose was also able defensively to guard both players small and bigger than he was.

I can only speak as someone who actually combed through 40+ games worth of footage of prime Rose Spurs games and concentrating only on him that Spurs fans would be surprised at how many touches he got.

If you want to compare Scola to someone, I'd point to Antoine Carr. A low post scorer who could put up huge points on a team with a low post need. Doesn't rebound much but can still be a quality player in the right system. Carr and Scola have very similar games.

I don't have a beef with a Carr comparison. I still believe that if Carr hadn't shredded his ankle the Spurs would have ended up beating the Suns that year.

[SpursIndonesia]

There's no way that the buyout value would be just 3 mil this summer, that's relatively peanuts for NBA teams considering Scola's level of player. I think TiMVP points out a lot of credible thougt in this thread, and Scola's supporters are not accepting them since they don't like common sense that goes against their fantasy.

[smeagol]

I think Scola is/will be a great player, regardless where he plays (Europe or the US).

But if the Spurs don't open up room fro him, what is the point of bringin him to SA?

I any case, I want Scola in Spurs uni because he is Argentine

[ArgSpursFan]

Difference is Nocioni was a free agent. While Scola would likely be worth $9M, it doesn't change the fact that he'd become the highest paid second round draft pick in NBA history.

The fact that Scola was picked in the second round dont really means contract wise.He was another spurs 2nd round steal like Manu´s im 99.Eventhough Manu started making 2.7M in his first contract with the spurs,Luis now is in a very diferent Situation,considering all his personal ac plishments internationally and in both euroleague and Spanish Domestic league.
In other words,To sign Luis for 3M p/yr will be a Burgain for the spurs or any other NBA team.Period
S.A just don´t want him,that´s all,and while they don´t want/like him they pretend too much to trade his rights.
Hopefully this season He´ll finally land in the NBA and proof the Spurs F.O wrong.

[venitian navigator]

I say : GIVE HIM MLE FOR THREE YEARS!!!
He's good enough for that...and for having his Bird rights after the contract is expired.
I think he's worth the risk, and Tau won't be in the position to refuse to let him go...or, at least, continue to play the game like we don't want him.
Next year would be too late...and I think that, after the fourth le we got, we can afford to spend some money on luxury tax (in case we can't unload Butler and Beno contracts for something like a late first choice or some second ones...and take a veteran pg - like Atkins, Knight, S. Parker or a rookie pg - like, for ex. Dowdell, A. Miles or Bokolo - for the minimum).

[waly.mg]

What about this rule?

If the player is already under contract to, or signs a contract with a non-NBA team, the team retains the player's draft rights for one year after the player's obligation to the non-NBA team ends. Essentially, the clock stops as long as the player plays pro ball outside the NBA. Players are not included in the team's team salary while the player is under contract with a non-NBA team