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Tony Parker is digressing?? So he is turning aside from the main subject of conversation??
Gimme a break.4 is not good for a high caliber pt guard, take off the blinders.
The Spurs offense is not structured to give the PG high assist totals. We could have Magic on this team and he still wouldn't get assists for dumping it into Duncan
Age is a good excuse. You're talking about a boy playing a man's game, basically. The only young gun to really come into this league and dominate in the backcourt right away has been Lebron, and he's a freak athletically. NBA perimeter players are bigger and stronger than what any guard plays against in HS and college, and especially Europe.Age is no excuse. Plenty of young guys, even younger than tony do just fine. Others never reach their full potential, the jury is still out on Tony.
You need to heed your own advice. Earlier you said that Tony isn't a high caliber PG, and now you're saying the jury's still out. I definitely agree with you the latter, and you need to listen to yourself on the former.
Tony Parker is digressing?? So he is turning aside from the main subject of conversation??
Tony is fine, and is definitly one of the best point guards in the league. Beno needs a lot of work. Offense doesn't run as smooth when he's in there as evident tonight when he came in the Sonics rebuilt their lead. But i think he'll get there.
di·gress
intr.v. di·gressed, di·gress·ing, di·gress·es
-To turn aside, especially from the main subject in writing or speaking
See Synonyms at swerve.
re·gress
v. re·gressed, re·gress·ing, re·gress·es
1)To go back; move backward.
2)To return to a previous, usually worse or less developed state.
I think adidas demonstrated his stupidity in this post by not recognizing that Parker has improved his D tremendously every year, as well as claiming that he has digressed because he obviously should have chosen the word "regress".
Last edited by ggoose25; 12-09-2004 at 02:51 AM. Reason: libelously hated on LG instead of adidas
damn, beat me to it Drachen
No no i think um he meant that. Tony Parker wants to change the subject or something.....that bas .
AJ was a great open look shooter. o!!!!!!!
And for goodness sakes Jordan didnt rock the world during his first few seasons. so give parker some time. this is only his 4th season so give him a break I personally think he has improved a lot. His decision making is getting better. He wont be Magic but who is? You think the Kidd is good? Id rather stick to Parker as he has a lot more upside and is already doing very well in my opinion for a 28th pick.
I like our team right now. Only thing I would change is adding Malone and subtracting Wilks(sorry bro).
Then we will have players for every possibility. If only we can gell the perimeter rotations more quickly.
Last edited by Dalamar_the_Dark; 12-09-2004 at 03:24 AM.
Some of you people are so ing stupid I am afraid sometimes it might be contagious...ge is no excuse. Plenty of young guys, even younger than tony do just fine. Others never reach their full potential, the jury is still out on Tony.
Jason Kidd was Tonys age when he came into the league and averaged 12.8ppg his first three years and got traded...
talking about Tony not being able to improve any at this point is moronic.
Assuming that all of the negative things about Tony are true -- and I dispute most of them -- what on Earth are you going to get for him in a trade? Don't you think that if forum posters find all of those faults with his game, that NBA scouts and front office guys, whose jobs are on the line, are going to see the same issues?
I guess my question is this: do you believe that you can deal Tony and improve your PG situation by doing so? I can't believe that anyone other than the "grass is greener" crowd would actually believe that, and I'm relieved to think that Popovich is rarely (if ever) a grass is greener type of executive and coach.
If you can't come up with a realistic deal by which the Spurs could deal Tony AND improve their PG situation, then you're just ing . . . . You might consider that your team is 7 games better than last season over its first 20; has a 3 game lead in its division over a team believed in some corners to be a legit contender; and still has gotten only average production out of the point and pedestrian production from its center and 6th man.
CC,
facts like that do no good on people like them obviously.
why don't you worry about your own freakin team.
Uhh...Jason Kid won the NBA Rookie of the Year his first season, and routinely turned in triple doubles early in his career.
And fine, I'll change digress to regress. My fault.
The point that I'm trying to make is NOT saying that Tony Parker isn't a good point guard.
But what I'm AM trying to say is that looking as his career so far, I see nothing to warrant thinking that he is going to be some future superstar in this league. People keep talking about his age, but I've seen younger players go on to be superstars at an earlier age.
And this has nothing to do with the Spurs record, or how well they're playing. I know the Spurs are 16-4. And they will probably continue to play well throughout the season.
But look at Tony Parker's stats!!!! He has dropped in almost every category since his second season. That's last year, and this year! If he was on his way to become a superstar in this league, then wouldn't the opposite be happening???
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Might Parker's stats be limited by the type of offense the Spurs switched to since the middle of last season as well as the emergence of Ginobili as the second scoring option?
Yes, his age is quite relevant because of the position he plays. When you consider the fact that he grew up playing ball in Paris that is quite remarkable.
So Marcus, do you think Tony Parker is going to be a Top 5 or Top 10 player in this league sometime in the near future?
WTF does "Paris' have to do with anything? Tony attended a formal national sports ins ute, a lot different from just "growing up". Tony "tracked" himself out of academics and into sports in his mid-teens, taking a ton of desire and hustle with him. The path and the results are remarkable.
No. I don't recall ever writing that and frankly I don't recall anyone writing that in this forum. Top 5 point guard? Sure.
boutons that was Paris, France not Paris, Texas.
the stat difference is negligible.But look at Tony Parker's stats!!!! He has dropped in almost every category since his second season. That's last year, and this year! If he was on his way to become a superstar in this league, then wouldn't the opposite be happening???
FG% is a push, FT% is a push, rebounds are up, assists are a push, steals are up, and scoring average is down by one friggin point on fewer minutes...
Adidas, I normally like your posts but you are just trolling on this one...
Yes, because stats tell the ultimate tale of a player's worth . . . . come on adidas, you're better than that.
Look at the Spurs roster in each of the last two seasons: it's been littered with far more scoring diversity than was here in 2001-02 or even 2002-03. Because of the changing nature of the roster, Pop's offensive scheme has morphed from a dump it down, post-up scheme to a drive-and-kick, emphasize ball movement scheme. This year's Spurs are averaging more assists than any team in recent memory, including the championship teams. Parker isn't ac ulating more assists, but he's getting the ball to teammates who can make the extra pass and get an even better look. It's not on Parker that his teammates are unselfish.
Plus, in considering Parker's 2004-05 numbers, I think you have to account for the fact that Tony has been substantially better in games 11-20 than he was in games 1-10. In his last 10 games, Parker is shooting .507 from the floor (64-126) and .410 from 3 (7-17). Compare that to his start, in which he shot .370 from the floor (44-119) and .125 from 3 (3-24). Not surprisingly, in his last 10, Parker is scoring at a 15.4 clip, compared to the 11.9 ppg he accrued in the first 10 games. Sure, the overall numbers right now aren't superstar level, but the recent uptick in his play is probably more indicative of his true talent, particularly within the confines of his team.
I think tp's d has improved alto this year
Pretty ballsy for someone who doesn't comprehend a post, or maybe to be expected, the jury is still out.Some of you people are so ing stupid I am afraid sometimes it might be contagious...
Jason Kidd was Tonys age when he came into the league and averaged 12.8ppg his first three years and got traded...
talking about Tony not being able to improve any at this point is moronic.
IMO, its not neccessarily a regression, but a slow start. Spurs fans see the potential Parker has and the flashes of brilliance he has shown. We, as fans , tend to get impatient. The kid is only 22 and just signed a huge contract. I still think the jury is out and we may not see him fully blossom for awhile, maybe not even this season. Popovich is no dummy, he knows talent and has faith in Parker. The one thing Pop has shown is that no matter what you make, if you can't help the team, you will not play. The good news is that the Spurs are 16-4 so the team is playing well. As Parker gets better, so do the Spurs.
Ok, let's take it a step further. How would Parker do outside of the Spurs, playing on perhaps another team?
Remember, I'm challenging the ones who said that Parker was a superstar in the making. His performance in the NBA so far has not justified that.
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