Taylor looks and sounds great, but he might be playing himself up the draft a little too much. You don't want to use a 1st on him, and even our first 2nd... and our last might be too late.
Some marked CDR as important or better than Rose in sections of the seasons. He may not be the same potential player but I'd also not be disappointed in the pick. He has some real skills and could find ways to score off the bench.
I figure his lack of shooting, unorthodox style, and the fact there are other more pure wings and SFs ahead of him are putting teams off.
CDR reminds me of Tayshaun Prince. Lanky, unorthodox shot, ability to drive and handle the ball.
CDR would be a really solid pick for the Spurs.
He's probably played his way into the low second round by now, and he could go higher. We'll see what his measurements look like. I'm sure the Toros staff saw enough of him to decide if he is worth a workout.
he's made himself pretty reliable out to 18 feet or so. have to think that would only improve after spending some time with Chip.
Tayshaun is probably a fairly decent comparison. CDR's not that tall, but he's also better taking the ball to the rim.
I miss the Tayshaun comparison. CDR doesn't have his length or defense. I agree his shooting is better than advertised, however.
If CDR is on the board and we draft another Euro I'll fly up there and smack RC myself.
CDR is underrated. Rose and Dorsey got a whole lot of attention, but last year Memphis also had a great year and it was CDR who carried the load.
If they draft any Euro other than Batum with the first I'll join you in that flight. I don't even want one with the second pick.
I like Joey Dorsey, too. Could use a banger with rebounding skills and a mean streak.
I think, from an athletic standpoint, long-lanky players who can move - they are pretty comparable.
They do bring different skill sets to the table. Defensively - Prince is bigger and so long that he has to get really burned to be out of a play. Offensively, CDR's a better ball-handler and brings more to the table than just the ability to hit open 3s and back down a smaller defender for a jump hook.
A ton of mocks have Trent Plaisted at 45 for the Spurs, maybe because he's a hometown guy. I know Chad Ford rates him very highly on potential (early second), but would not be surprised to see him drop due to his college inconsistency. What do you guys think of that pick if the Spurs go with a wing in the first?
Plaisted would be good value in the mid 2nd. Some BYU students on realgm are running him down, though, saying he's athletic but really not that good, disappears and is not aggressive. Not a terrible pick there, though.
I would still like Brandon Rush the most given our draft position... but the odds of him falling... are pretty much 0 yeah?
But Batum... i would be absolutely stoked if we could get him
Rush doesn't excite me as much as some of the other names being talked about.
He's polished enough that he might join the rotation quickly. I just think he'll prove to mediocre across the board - which isn't as bad as it sounds, but still not what I'm hoping for.
K-State fan.
But I do kind of agree.
Yeah, I've heard similar things. I wonder if he wouldn't be better served in a role-playing capacity, and he does have many of the skills the Spurs covet in the big men.
Actually, I'm a big fan of the DX mock right now - Lee, Plaisted, and Hairston. That would be a great draft if the Spurs would ever consider carrying that many rookies.
Agree. Haven't looked at DX's latest, but that's great. Would like Calathes somehow, but Hairston could surprise.
I'd like three rooks on the team next year, counting Mahinmi. Well, two rooks and Mahinmi I mean. I'm serious.
Yeah, I knowK-State fan.
But I do kind of agree.. But Rush never really burned the Cats, so I'm not really biased against him. Besides, I said some positive things about Chalmers in the other thread. That - in conjunction with my preference that the Spurs go in a different direction than Bill Walker - is probably enough for KSU to revoke my degree.
If I can root for Jacque Vaughn (crappy as he may be) - then I can root for any player from the Flaw on the Kaw.
I want Joe Alexander most of all in this draft, but I dont see him being there at 26. Next, I want Brandon Rush, but he too is most likely gone by 26. I would not be too terribly upset with Jason Thompson at 26.
I do not want Batum at all. In fact, I am tired of drafting Euros. We missed out on Scola. Splitter resigned with Tau for 2 more years. We have a handful of other guys we have drafted but wont ever be brought over. I want to draft American for a few years.
I wouldnt be opposed to trading our 1st for two 2nds...with either Minnesota, Portland, or Seattle.
With our four 2nds.....we could draft
F/C Dorsey/Hardin (rebounding and defense)
F Ibaka (being compared to a young shawn kemp)
G Jamont Gordon (combo guard)
G/F Marty Luenen (very nice jumpshot)
As an undrafted free agent we can even sign Carter from A&M. He is the college version of Ray Allen with his jumpshot.
Hypothetically if Robin Lopez were available would you take him or is a 3 like CDR much more important. Personally I'd take Lopez.
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we have Bowen and Udoka at the 3.....
We need big men. I dont see us bringing back Thomas. Horry is going to retire. We will have Duncan, Oberto, Bonner, and Mahimni next year.
As far as drafting a big man goes.....I want someone who is a rebounding machine and who will block shots.
We also need a SG. Finley needs to go. Barry needs to be moved to backup PG cause Vaughn and Damon need to go. Brandon Rush is who I want at 26. As a fan of the Big 12 and the Longhorns, I have seen much of Rush, too much. He was a complete pain in the ass to us Longhorn fans. I also like Carter from A&M. He has one of the purest jumpshots in college. IMO, as far as shooting goes, he is the Ray Allen of college, he just isn't the most athletic guy out there. However, I think he could be had as a UDFA.
I'm pretty certain Carter dropped out of the draft and will return to school. Also, Rush has seen a huge e in his stock, and probably won't be around when the Spurs pick. Though if he is, that's a no-brainer to me.
Here's the article on Carter returning to school: http://blogs.chron.com/aggies/2008/0..._from_nba.html
Robin Lopez doesn't excite me at all. If we can't get Splitter to come over, I'd rather bring back Thomas compared to most of the big man options available at 26. If we want to draft a project Big with one of the second round picks - that's fine with me.
The situation with Batum is not the same. Le Mans already agreed to let him go to the NBA. Batum wants to play next year in the NBA. Batum is born for the NBA and he knows it. If the Spurs are smart enough NOT TO let him play in europe but bring him right now you don't risk anything.I do not want Batum at all. In fact, I am tired of drafting Euros. We missed out on Scola. Splitter resigned with Tau for 2 more years. We have a handful of other guys we have drafted but wont ever be brought over. I want to draft American for a few years.
With Batum all you have to do is to see if you want him or not. You don't have to wonder about contract issues. Of courese you can prefer US players, but do it for their BB skills.
thats great, im not sure who has the most accurate mock draft is year in and year out but a couple have us taking batum. (off the top of my head chad ford from espn.)
Batum, unlike some Euro prospects, will come in NBA with the right at ude. He knows that he will have to work a lot and that it will be difficult.
For people reading French, a nice article about him :
http://www.lemonde.fr/sports/article...1863_3242.html
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