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    I'm pretty certain Carter dropped out of the draft and will return to school. Also, Rush has seen a huge e in his stock, and probably won't be around when the Spurs pick. Though if he is, that's a no-brainer to me.

    Here's the article on Carter returning to school: http://blogs.chron.com/aggies/2008/0..._from_nba.html
    Ok well Carter did the smart thing.....cause he was going late in the second round, if at all...

    Yeah, Rush has probably moved into the top 20. Alexander wont make it past 14. The only other guy in the 1st that I am somewhat stoked about is Thompson. So what if he went to Rider, the kid has game that could compliment Duncan. But even he might not last to 26. So with that being said, trade out of the 1st and get a couple of 2nds and get 4 players instead of 3.

    2 - F/C Dorsey/Hardin
    2 - F Ibaka
    2 - G Gordon
    2 - G/F Leunen

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    What do you guys think about DJ White in the second round? He reminds me of a Craig Smith or Paul Millsap type of player.
    I like DJ White (disclosure: am an IU alumnus). He's a good guy, took his game to another level this year. He may be undersized but has very long arms, rebounds well, and is developing a nice pop jumper. Slight injury concern but he should be over it. DX has mentioned Detroit may have given him a promise late in the round.

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    I like DJ White (disclosure: am an IU alumnus). He's a good guy, took his game to another level this year. He may be undersized but has very long arms, rebounds well, and is developing a nice pop jumper. Slight injury concern but he should be over it. DX has mentioned Detroit may have given him a promise late in the round.
    Interesting....since they already have Maxiell and Dice.

    Also, it may be wishful thinking to have him there at the Spurs first 2nd rd pick....seems his stock is rising.

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    I don't know, Phat. There's a lot of big men everywhere in this draft. Hendrix, Dorsey, and other PFs might get there first. I don't see White breaking the first round this year. I think he could be a steal.

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    I don't know, Phat. There's a lot of big men everywhere in this draft. Hendrix, Dorsey, and other PFs might get there first. I don't see White breaking the first round this year. I think he could be a steal.
    Just takes one team to fall in love, but I get your general point. There is a lot of frontline talent in this draft that the Spurs could snag....no superstars in the late first/early second, but alot of potential contributors and solid players.

    Still, there's going to be alot of pressure on the Spurs FO to pick the right big...especially if Tiago stays in Europe as expected.

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    I should say... I think Detroit's promise to White is credible, although may not be true.

    The beginning of the round will have several players I think will be at least decent pros, at least have a shot, but no one that will be a starter.

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    right now i cant decide who i like more.....Dorsey or Hardin.

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    DJ White and Joey Dorsey are exactly the kind of low risk picks we need to be making. It happens time and time again, these guys are work horses. Let them learn of Oberto and maybe Kurt for a year and you'll have yourself a solid role player for 10+ years.

    CDR and Rush, likewise. They have both proven they can put the ball in the whole, at the very least they can become good 2nd unit scoring role players.

    All of the above are hard working intelligent players and that has proven to be the most important skill of all for players to stick around in the NBA. How many athletic freaks have we seem come and go... James White anyone?

    We don't need to knock it out of the ball park every year, a safe reliable pick is whats needed.

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    Do we have any chance to Draft Robin Lopez? i really like that kid.

    Any chance the Spurs can move up?

    Send our draft pick + booner, Oberto or vaughn to get up?

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    Do we have any chance to Draft Robin Lopez? i really like that kid.

    Any chance the Spurs can move up?

    Send our draft pick + booner, Oberto or vaughn to get up?
    He's a fast riser up the draft boards at this point. I'm not sure why, because he's a very limited player offensively. Teams will probably be drafting Robin with the hope that he catches up to his brother on the offensive side of the ball.

    I'm not sure if the Spurs should move up to draft a one-dimensional player like Robin Lopez, but that's just my opinion.

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    Sounds like you've seen him play...

    I was just going off the measurements and scouting reports. Big body w/ good athleticism and a soft touch....reminded me of Nene Hilario.

    Guess that might be hoping for too much.
    I've seen him play quite a few games, a couple live and more than a few on tv. He had a great game here in the All-Star game, but we all know there isn't any defence in the All-Star game and you can't judge talent by dunks.

    He has good size, but he isn't 6'10". The scouting reports in Draft express and Draftnet, are about right, but he has only displayed this against low quality opposition. He's big in the NBL, where most bigs are NBA 4's. Put it this way, Chris Anstey (Former Mavs) has won the MVP here and been dominating the league since his return from the NBA. Says it all really.

    The only plus with Jawai is that he is very new to the game, a bit like Mahinmi in that he only started playing a few year back.

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    So who do the Spurs give guaranteed money to this year (first round pick)?

    Will it be another international player so the Spurs don't have to pay the money or deal with the roster spot right away?

    Will it be a wing player?

    Thoughts?

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    So who do the Spurs give guaranteed money to this year (first round pick)?

    Will it be another international player so the Spurs don't have to pay the money or deal with the roster spot right away?

    Will it be a wing player?

    Thoughts?
    very difficult to know as the spurs always choose a scenario that any spursfan has imagine

    i hope they will learn the lessons of drafting international players with scola and splitter ......

    They have a lot of needs : wing , inside ..... we'll see

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    very difficult to know as the spurs always choose a scenario that any spursfan has imagine

    i hope they will learn the lessons of drafting international players with scola and splitter ......

    They have a lot of needs : wing , inside ..... we'll see
    C'mon man, step out on a limb. I'll say they draft Bill Walker.

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    I think Walker is too far away to be the pick (however, one of the K-State assistant coaches have said that the Spurs are one of 3 teams that really like BW).

    I can't see the Spurs wanting to take a guy who will be eligible for free agency by the time he is ready to be a big contributor to a championship team.

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    C'mon man, step out on a limb. I'll say they draft Bill Walker.
    walker with their second round pick maybe
    seems to have the tool to do someting

    offcourse i like his profile

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    So who do the Spurs give guaranteed money to this year (first round pick)?

    Will it be another international player so the Spurs don't have to pay the money or deal with the roster spot right away?

    Will it be a wing player?

    Thoughts?
    I'm pretty sure they'll draft a tweener with a limited skill set but has good character and can name (for Pop) at least one leader of the former Soviet Union, and is slow but also "might be able to play a little point." There's a chance they may try to draft Marcus Williams again.

    At the end of the season, after we lose in the second round and the 'assessment article' comes out where we learn all the behind-the-scenes stuff and know that a few of the early second rounders had pretty nice seasons, we'll find out that there were a couple chances to move the first for two early second picks that were shot down by Holt because he didn't want to pay 'double salary' (i.e. two players). Meanwhile, Pop will pretend he would have played young players in an off-handed remark about how disappointed he was the swap didn't go through.

    That's pretty much how it goes down. I just haven't decided which bad prospect the Spurs will pick. I'm pretty sure they've learned enough to get to the kindergarten level and won't pick a foreign big man prospect, I'm just not sure how they'll wind up again without any youthful talent. It's just not clear to me who in that range is clearly the 'stay away from him' player yet.

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    @ Body...

    I'll go Euro in 1st rd that has potential to be good, but is a few years off and will undoubtedly blow up in the meantime and sign a long-term deal to stay overseas....Omri Casspi, who coincidentally is a little slow as a "tweener", but can play some point.

    Then I'll go with a player in Round 2 who is only really effective at this point when he's playing as a power forward and needs to work on his jumpshooting in order to be a legit NBA player....not Marcus Williams again, but Bill Walker.

    For the final pick, I'll go against the standard wisdom of a low-risk, low-ceiling player that could possibly come in and contribute....instead going for the obscure foreign player that could be decent down the road; Georgi Shermadini.

    Oh, then they'll trade him away.

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    You nailed it.

    Victor Claver on the outside of Casspi.

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    You nailed it.

    Victor Claver on the outside of Casspi.
    Claver...nice! Not a name that gets brought up enough, IMO.

    Both would be dumb to keep their names in the bucket at this point, but if they got a first round promise from someone (say the Spurs!?!?!) it'd be hard to pass up.

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    I think Claver will pull out.

    edited: Sorry, that's what you were saying.

    My heart will catch if it turns out Casspi has a promise. It'd be obvious who promised him.

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    I think Claver will pull out.

    edited: Sorry, that's what you were saying.

    My heart will catch if it turns out Casspi has a promise. It'd be obvious who promised him.
    Is his contract situation definitely going to keep him overseas next season?

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    I like bill walker as well..but he might not be there at 26 if we're going to get a swingman with our first pick my list would be..
    1.CDR
    2.Rush
    3.Walker

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    I think Claver will pull out.

    edited: Sorry, that's what you were saying.

    My heart will catch if it turns out Casspi has a promise. It'd be obvious who promised him.
    Casspi has been unhappy with his situation previously at Maccabi, so he may be willing to come over immediately on a guaranteed contract. Doesn't strike me as the kind of player who would appreciate working on his game in the D-League, though. I think if Casspi stays in the draft, he's got some kind of promise, and his agent was pretty vocal about his staying in previously.

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    Casspi sounds like a guy unhappy with everything. He'd be unhappy as king of the world. What a sour at ude.

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