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Lame excuse! Stats from last night:
V-Span was starter, Jasikevicius was not!
Season stats:
V-Span:
Jasikevicius:
Now, please tell me again, which player has more playing time, better statistical rate etc.
Of course, Greek league is so much weaker as Euroleague. Panathinaikos has enough player to rest Jasikevicius for Euroleague.
You not understand.
1. Whatever point Jasekivicius get like say he score 15 point, he give up 25 to other team. He not play defense even though coach begging him do so. Same thing he get bench for in NBA.
2. If Diamantidis or Spanoulis is play at point guard they have much higher play ranking than Jasekivicius. Last two game before one you post coach ask Saras let Spanoulis play point guard and see what happen.
After this Saras get mad Spanoulis "steal spotlight". Team go back to him play point guard and look what happen. Check last two game of Euroleague where Spanoulis allow run team and see difference. Many report in Greek media Panathinaikos owners and coach not please with Saras. Say how you think but team will be make big change with him if this keep up.
Romain Sato > "Greek Steve Nash"
Why is eveyone still talking about this malaka pusti?
I think he's pretty dumb too. if he has good individual performances in the Olympics regardless of the team's results, he will get attention. Also, September is too late to get the most offers and money from NBA teams. The timing seems really bad.
Video I post here go away from youtube. I check and it gone. It get edit with 3 more minute of clips. Here it now I find new one. Same as before except have 3 more minute of clips at end.
3 minutes of sitting on the end of JVG's bench?
I just want to say I get Spanoulis contract explain to me. He have player option at ANY time during his contract. At ANY time he can leave contract and go to NBA for zero buy out amount. He can only do this if it is NBA team. If not NBA team he must stay with PAO for 2 more years. But at ANY time during contract he can cancel contract even during season and return to NBA with no money on the buy out. This thing his agent set up in contract. So it not how I understand. Such thing confusing to me because I am not person that deal with contracts for job.
But this I ask for certain him explain it to me and this what he say.
So, how is Billy handling the fact that his team didn't even make the quarterfinals of Euroleague?
Losing to Partizan...that's weak.
Interesting vid. Frankly, he reminds me of Manu somewhat. Same agressiveness in driving to the basket, step-back shot, and some flashy passing.
It's so hard to devine players' skill levels from vids of other leagues. When you see someone drive by another player as though he was standing still, you don't really know how good that defensive player is compared to NBA level skills.
Right now I'd take VSPAN over Stoudamire just to see someone different on the court.
V-Span got screwed over by JVG, I hated to see him go.
Glad we got Scola, but I would take Billy back so fast it would make your head spin.
He is aggressive, smart, and knows the game.....he does do some risky things but over time, his turnovers will decrease as he gets to know his teamates.
He is a VERY good player.
DD
He is very as you say pissed off. Him and Diamantidis and Saras are all very angry and mad at each other I think but will not say such thing to each other. Coach Obradovic is very angry never seen him this angry. He is almost as much as 1/10 as angry as Van Gundy is after a player not name Yao or T-Mac or Alston has a turn over.
Yes he even start criticize some of the players. He criticize Saras and say all things that are true. Selfish play, ego, not follow team offense, try to be hero, try to win game all by self, think he is bigger than team, etc.
I have never know Obradovic to be so mad. But also you must know lose to Partizan not "weak". You also foolish fan then? Partizan have best big man in world that is not in NBA. Lose to such team when you have start PF and C injure for most of year and for game is not actual "weak".
Lindsey of Spurs make nickname for him when he talk to him when he with Rockets and Spanoulis play at Maroussi. lindsey call him "Mini Manu"
Lindsey believe he is "cross between Parker and Manu" and call him "Mini Manu".
I have love Manu as player long time. As I say before he is my #2 favorite player in world. When I see Manu play in Italy I think I never see such player. he amazing. I think he even can do thing there he not able to do now in NBA
He not as athletic as he were in Italy. He incredible player. He try act more like Jordan I think now he more control by Popovich. But he still unleash Super Manu when play for Argentina some game.
Since Manu such favorite player for me I can say compare how Manu is now to how Spanoulis is now. I think Manu much bigger and longer as they call it than Spanoulis. Manu is 6-6 and Spanoulis is 6-3. Manu is much longer wingspan.
I think Manu better ball handler than Spanoulis. I think Manu better shooter than Spanoulis. I think Manu have more shoot range than Spanoulis.
I think Spanoulis is much more athletic player than Manu. Spanoulis is much faster and much quicker player. he just blow past Manu like nothing. Spanoulis is much stronger player than Manu. Spanoulis could snap him like stick no problem. Spanoulis similar passing, similar court vision but only better. Spanoulis passing play making and court vision is comparable to Steve Nash if ask me. And stupid Van Gundy think this player "not point guard". he can make same passing and play make as Nash.
Manu better finisher than Spanoulis and can dunk over opponent and Spanoulis have to try hard shot or layup. But Spanoulis much tougher and stronger. Spanoulis drive wreckless into defense just like Manu. Difference be 7 footer will move off Spanoulis because he so strong.
Manu is much better free throw shooter than Spanoulis.
Manu have the great move like behind the back and step back and european step and crossover and crossover with other hand and also he have good hesitation move. Manu is much better in behind back move and european step. But in other move Spanoulis superior. Spanoulis left hand as good as Manu and he not even left handed. Spanoulis cross over and hesitation move is cannot be guard by any player.
He can make any NBA player look like joke with these moves. This how Team USA learn and stupid coach K just say "#7 kill us I not know his name"
Well dumb US coach that why he call "Kill Bill".
Spanoulis is much better defense player than Manu. MUCH better.
Of all players I watch #2 most compe or #2 most aggresive #2 most determine and fearless player is Manu or Kobe in whole world of players I watch close. #1 in all these is Spanoulis. Spanoulis have more fearless will than Manu or Kobe. This why he calls "Kill Bill" it what opponents names him.
You not earn name "Kill Bill" for no reason. So I thinks Manu is more talent player. Manu is more spectacular player as we use this word many time to measure player entertain value in Europe. Like Massey of Greek team Aris he is SPECTACULAR player. Manu have more ability with size and length and dunk on players and such thing.
But Spanoulis is player that will beat Manu in one verse one game. Spanoulis is tougher and stronger and more will than any player on court and he have defense much better than Manu. Like in other thread here Scolarules say Spanoulis remind him of Wade type of player. This true same style and attack basket and try draw foul same mental way of game.
But as I say to Scolarules Spanoulis is more like player like the Rocket have call Bob Sura. I see him play Rocket team very similar to Spanoulis. This only other player I see as fearless and warrior like Spanoulis is. Difference Sura is bigger player. Spanoulis much stronger, much faster, much quicker, better play making and court vision better passing and Spanoulis not have injury issue like Sura have. But this type of way Spanoulis play. He like this Sura I see. Same way. American fan not realize Scola very dirty very tough and mean player. Spanoulis ask guard him in post in Euroleague playoff and he stop Scola few time.
I see this Sura is person tackle player in Dallas playoff game with Rocket and other player and ref all look other way like scared. Also player get tackle just run away. This similar as Spanoulis. No player dare mess with him.
What about his injured heal, the same injury that Timmy had?
Timmy rested it over the summer and he got well.
When will VSpan rest to get well???????????
And since the Spurs are a family type of team who place a high value on family life and even understanding that you need to take care sometimes and go on leave like Horry did this year to take care of family issues, who does VSpan prefer to play for, the Rockets or the Spurs?????????????
But the whole point about Vspan is $$. If he comes to the Spurs how much is he going to ask for? Last time this was discussed I think it was either equal to or more than Bowen makes. I really don't see the FO giving him that type of money : $3 -4Mil - with almost zero NBA experience.
He looks good but do you really think that the Spurs FO is going to give him that type of money? I don't.
Well, what is the LLE?
he was the best player of pana against partizan
and he could be a great backup for Tony Parker
I think that some front office will....
DD
Yes this is all he want. he want nothing more but chance to prove can play in NBA on great team like Spurs. He is happy with 10-15 minute back up Parker.
He can get like $12 million contract for 3 year in europe and also he could be able get all MLE for 3 years if he have not sign Rocket contract and sign with different NBA team after 2006 world championship.
But he and agent have discuss and because he bench all year by Van Gundy and because he refuse plays with Spurs his vale for NBA has drop. It back down to where it was when he sign with Rocket team.
So he is value at half MLE or LLE contract. Spanoulis is willing take LLE for team such as Spurs or Rockets if he get fair chance. He believe Adelman will do so and have offense that fit him and same with defense.
He also believe no other team in world like Spurs. He tell me again he ask only for 8-10 minute a game from van Gundy as he learn adjust to NBA and he say you can see such great player like Scola even need much time to adjust. He just very hurt by everything van Gundy do. Lie to media, make fun of him and mom and just so many thing.
He have great respect for Adelman and Popovich. In Europe Van Gundy and Byron Scott have very poor reputation but Adelman and Popovich very good. Adelman best of all. But remember Popovich is one who talk with Obradovic. Obradovic and PAO owners have great respect for Popovich.
To make understand how Van Gundy have no respect for others when Obradovic talk to van Gundy about Spanoulis Van Gundy tell him you don't know game because you grow up playing game in barns.
Popovich do everything he can to make PAO team and coach feel like part of family. Obradovic tell Spanoulis even though he in Greece at time that Popovich is just like PAO. he run team as family. Van Gundy way is do any thing I say or go to . he even hate the owner of team
And Spanoulis hear only best of thing about Adelman from Peja. Adelman is see as like father to many player. It make Spanoulis sick how he see Rocket rookie and also foreign player treat by Adelman then remember all thing happen to him.
Spurs have no mid or long term answers at the backup PG spot.
Vaughn is an average stop gap. Spurs could really use a combo guard like Spanoulis.
I can see Spurs offering this summer a LLE contract ($4M over 2 years) to Spanoulis. Spurs won't offer him guaranteed playing time. I don't see Spurs offering him more money or giving him some guarantees on his playing time. It will be up to Spanoulis to take or not this offer.
Billy needs to grow a pair and tell Jasikevicius that he sucks at yellin the refs and teammates
Sarunas think he can lead Pana to the Final Four talking and no playin'
I already say Manu is more talent player. Spanoulis cannot do same thing Manu can do. This just like stupid lie Van Gundy make up about "T-Mac of Greece" because Spanoulis not comparable to T-Mac.
He is small point guard. he is not spectacular wing player like Manu or T-Mac. But he is similar mental way of game as Manu and he try play similar like Manu and Parker.
You have understand what I post is accurate. In many thing he is better player than Manu. How he play with national team or PAO or Rocket is not good way to know him. You have to see when he play with Maroussi. When he is player that is given control of team what he can do.
He try explain to Van Gundy he need ball to play well. Van Gundy just destroy him with fans and media after this. But how good can Parker or Manu or T-Mac be without ball?
Spanoulis is very capable to have Nash passing and great defense and run pick and roll like Nash if he is allow to run team. Coach Giannakis his coach of Maroussi and national team know very well. American fan think 4 quarter of Greece US game is some crazy thing that happen. But this is not.
Giannakis know very well what Spanoulis can do and put him in Maroussi pick and roll and tell him take over game. And this is what he do. He is not use such way in PAO team because this is not Obradovic tactic. But Obradovic call him "the chosen one" and say before he is most talent player he has ever seen.
You have to understand what he can do if run with Giannakis Maroussi pick and roll this same thing they run in quarter 4 against team US. But American fan believe it just some crazy thing that happen. Not true. If want way of know Jerry Sloan copy all game plan and offense tactic from Giannakis. He learn most all of this from Giannakis play book.
So you see how Williams or Stockton use this same way as Giannakis Maroussi pick and roll. if you not believe you need pay more attention to Greece US game. Spanoulis try explain this to Van Gundy and he never have chance ever play again.
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Yeah I agree with that but I don't think it will be the Spurs. That may or may not be good or bad situation for the Spurs. I don't know and only time will tell. If you would have asked me what Beno's impact in Sac Town would have been I would have thought min. to average at best. He's done very well. Good for him. Players have got to be in a system that fits their talents and mindset. Beno didn't do well here and needed a change in scenery. It sees that every team has had players that didn't work out and left only to blossom somewhere else. Team's system, coaches, chemistry - there seems to be a myriad of reasons for some players working out and others not.
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