Time to Trade

[ChumpDumper]

You think the Bulls are going to keep 2 of those players?

For the season, yes -- they have to let two go because they are already carrying 15.

Magloire and Nachbar are only valued for their expiring status.

Nachbar is decent, I figure they would keep him and Williams then decide whether to keep them this summer. They can keep those two players for less than half the price of Nocioni.

[pad300]

For the season, yes -- they have to let two go because they are already carrying 15. Nachbar is decent, I figure they would keep him and Williams then decide whether to keep them this summer. They can keep those two players for less than half the price of Nocioni.

I was actually thinking more long term (ie past the end of this season). I believe the bulls currently have 3 players on non-guaranteed minimum contracts (Demetris Nichols, Aaron Gray, Jameson Curry). I would expect them to drop Nichols and Curry, just because those contracts are not guaranteed. (and I don't think that Curry and Nichols have even played a game for them yet). They might try and resign Snackbar, but I wouldn't bother if I were them. If they do this trade, they are still in a rebuilding phase, and the roster spot to check out another prospect is worth more than Snackbar...

[ChumpDumper]

They're in a rebuilding phase?

[SequSpur]

The team still needs its first quality backup PG since Speedy Claxton and Terry Porter before him.
And a shot in the arm.

Exactly.

[MI21]

Please, the king of Jack fans will always be me!



About the trades, I don't see anything major happening. Maybe they rid themsevles of Elson for a draft pick and bring Mahinmi up, something along those lines. If they were able to snag Pietrus for Elson, that would be amazing. I still see a lot of potential in him, despite his seemingly low BballIQ. But parting with a major piece of the puzzle just doesn't seem Spur-like.

[jay014]

Maybe they rid themsevles of Elson for a draft pick and bring Mahinmi up, something along those lines. .

Maybe an Elson trade for a draft pick would work if it were the 80's and draft went 7 rounds so there's a slim chance now since there's only 2.

[pad300]

They're in a rebuilding phase?

If they are dumping Nocioni for what New Jersey is offering, they are...

[ChumpDumper]

If they are dumping Nocioni for what New Jersey is offering, they are...

If they dump Ben Wallace, I'll believe it. As it is they are just making the choice between Deng and Nocioni they should have made long ago.

[pad300]

If they dump Ben Wallace, I'll believe it. As it is they are just making the choice between Deng and Nocioni they should have made long ago.

Not if all they're getting back for Nocioni is capspace (which is all that the deal they are contemplating with NJ is...). There are weakpoints on the current team that need addressing (eg. post scoring), and Nocioni is there only significant trade bait (other than picks of course).

[ChumpDumper]

which is all that the deal they are contemplating with NJ is

Maybe, maybe not. Considering the players involved, they could keep a couple of them. They aren't blowing this team up, they are removing a logjam and likely setting up further deals.

There are weakpoints on the current team that need addressing (eg. post scoring)

What post scorers are available?

[AFBlue]

Nocioni ain't happening, so what's with the argument?

[pad300]

Maybe, maybe not. Considering the players involved, they could keep a couple of them. They aren't blowing this team up, they are removing a logjam and likely setting up further deals.What post scorers are available?

Post scoring was an example, not the be all and end all of their problems. Their PG slot has looked ugly as well this year. They might be able to set up some sort of deal for Miller out of Philly...Andre Miller would be a huge improvement over their current PG play.

Nocioni ain't happening, so what's with the argument?

We're not arguing, just discussing. No one has starting swearing or using ALL CAPS yet...
Chump asked the question who might be available that the Spurs would be interested in a page or so back. I suggested Nocioni due to published reports that the Bulls and Nets are trying to set up a deal with Nocioni as the centerpiece...

[ChumpDumper]

Their PG slot has looked ugly as well this year.

And they were potentially trading for a what was it again? Point guard. Now it's perfectly possible that they might like the combination of Barry's skills and his expiring deal among others, but then we are the team with holes and logjams afterwards.

[T Park]

Damn, wish the Spurs could trade for Nocioni...

Nocioni would literally make the Spurs unbeatable.

A big 3 4 next to Duncan like that that rebounds like a madman and bags the three and can penetrate?

Hot damn...

[genomefreak13]

The team still needs its first quality backup PG since Speedy Claxton and Terry Porter before him.

And a shot in the arm.

I agree with you GW. The team do need a more decent point guard than vaughn. Fortunately, the means of getting it doesn,t have to be through a trade. I think we can improve on that aspect without disrupting the team's peace (and the player's security of tenure). I'm not sure if Earl Watson is already signed, I think he would be a perfect fit for the following reasons:

1. He's a natural and quality point guard
2. He has a good range with his jumpshot (and pretty accurate too)
3. He's a little devil that can break down defenses (in a way that parker does it).
4. He's porter and claxton combined (porter since he can shoot from the outside very well and claxton since he can slide inside for a nice finish)

[venitian navigator]

what about this :

Nocioni -Safolosha - Duhon for Barry (expiring) Elson (expiring) Bonner (replacing for bulls part of what what Nocioni gives at a lower price) and a first choice ? I think it could be a better package of the net's one....

[Ghost Writer]

genomefreak13, Earl Watson is a quality PG. He starts for Seattle and I like his high assists totals for such an awful team. I don't know if the Sonics would just fork him over, because they don't seem to trust Luke Ridnour fully.




P.S.

baseline bum, it's been over 5 years and you still contort the facts.

1. I did not share a bed with a man. My buddy and fellow Spurs fan travelled across the country and shared a hotel room to support the Spurs.

2. Many Spurs fans were anointing Tony Parker as the second coming in his second season, while I simply pointed out that journeyman Chris Whitney had better stats at the time.

3. I targeted Stephen Jackson as a low-cost steal for the Spurs when he caught my eye when he played for the Nets.


"Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop... (Oo)
Stop, hatin' on a brotha
that is a weak emotion
The lady of a brotha" - Lil Weezy

[tav1]

I go back and forth on whether or not the Spurs will move anyone. But with Udoka emerging and Barry's ball movement and ability to run point, I think Elson is the only player they should consider dealing, unless someone makes them a can't say no offer.

Elson and #1 for Villanueva still looks like a winner to me. Villanueva would give them a scoring 4 that could play alongside Duncan in a small ball line-up, but he has the height and length to match up with Stoudemire and Nowitski. He'd be on the payroll next season, but a front court rotation of Duncan, Villanueva, Splitter, Mahinmi and Oberto gives them a lot of flexibility and looks, and allows them to move Bonner, if they were in a cap crunch.

Elson for Chandler and Balkman works, but I don't see the incentive, aside from a cash drop, for NY. Neither of these players would help this year, but Balkman could make rotation next year and Chandler is Toros prospect. Their deals drop off in 2009.

Elson for Rasual Butler works (suggested by someone else), and would be attractive to the Hornets because Butler is contracted for a few more years. Because of this, the Spurs might not want to go this direction.

Elson for Channing Fyre could probably happen, and I have no doubt that Frye is more talented than Elson. But I'm not sure how well he fits in the broader picture or how he'd play with Duncan.

[Ghost Writer]

I have no qualms about trading draft picks.

The Spurs are in "win now" mode until Duncan retires.

I don't see drafting and developing as a short-term solution.

[Admiral]

I have not posted here in a really long time, and the first thing I see when I log in is Ghost Writer proposing trades. Classic!

Does DizzG post here yet or did he stay loyal to Dusty Garza? "IMO "

[T Park]

Wow, is this old school week?

Good to see Admiral on board

[timvp]

I have not posted here in a really long time, and the first thing I see when I log in is Ghost Writer proposing trades. Classic!

Does DizzG post here yet or did he stay loyal to Dusty Garza? "IMO "

Damn. First GW awakes from a slumber and now Admiral?

Nice.

[T Park]

Nocioni -Safolosha - Duhon for Barry (expiring) Elson (expiring) Bonner (replacing for bulls part of what what Nocioni gives at a lower price) and a first choice ? I think it could be a better package of the net's one....

No way in the Bulls do that, but I would do that trade so fast your head would spin.

[baseline bum]

, Casper and 1.56 are here? What next? FunkTiger or Kluby? myballs?

[Ghost Writer]

The more things change...

timvp, you should do a new post to reintroduce some of us old timers.

I know some of the classic posters here, but who are some of these young @sses?