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Oh and what's up? You still South Carolina ballin'?I have not posted here in a really long time, and the first thing I see when I log in is Ghost Writer proposing trades. Classic!
Does DizzG post here yet or did he stay loyal to Dusty Garza? "IMO"
Is Marcus Bryant still here? If so, I would pay money to see he and Ghost Writer fight - just like old times.
Oh and what's up? You still South Carolina ballin'?I have not posted here in a really long time, and the first thing I see when I log in is Ghost Writer proposing trades. Classic!
Does DizzG post here yet or did he stay loyal to Dusty Garza? "IMO
Yep. Things are great here, just really busy. Hope you're doing well also!
You sticking around this time? Last time I re-introduced you, you disappeared for another six months
Championships fill bandwagons. Four championships.
Do the math.
Good to hear. And yeah, we're good.
Admiral needs to dock his ship. I'm tired of answering the "Whatever happened to Admiral?" question.
Saw Barry go down tonight, but I didn't hear any prognosis....what's the word?
And if it's serious (out a couple weeks), doesn't that increase the chance of a trade for a wing player?
means more of udoka yay
i'm thinking barry might be out a month or so...i'd like to see a move just to shake things up, but i doubt it.
Neither Bonner or Elson had a single minute tonight....even after a wing player went down and their small-ball lineup took a hit.
That should tell us something....Pop has little to no confidence in either. If the Spurshave the opportunity to make a trade to bring back a G/F and get rid of one of these guys (Elson preferably), I think they'd do it.
Pietrus/Butler/Wilkins/JR Smith for Elson......DO IT!
Nah, this is Pop. Nothing means anything until it does.That should tell us something.
Besides, if he doesn't trust two big men, why would he pick up a wing player?
barry is rarely used anyway in the playoffs
if we want a fkn deal, do this
trade barry/elson/bonner + picks to phili for iguodola + reggie evans
we get a wing player and a solid rebounder, or:
trade to bulls for nocioni + noah
Dizzying intellect, but I see what you're saying. I'm just trying to be optimisic that the Spurs are going to dump Elson's sorry ass and actually get a player that has the ability to contribute.
Maybe because Bonner can't matchup with smaller quicker players?even after a wing player went down and their small-ball lineup took a hit.
I'm just throwin that out there....
ok, time to dial back some of the more wild trade ideas, and try a good ol' lateral move:
spurs trade: elson, 2008 2nd round pick, cash (300k-800k)
spurs receive: patrick o'bryant
warriors trade: patrick o'bryant
warriors receive: elson, 2008 2nd round pick, cash (300k-800k)
why for the warriors: pob is out of the rotation, and has been for most of his career. nelson seems to have no desire to give him any PT, and the organization has seemed to give up on him (declining his option last summer, making him an UFA this summer). elson probably wont see anymore time than pob, but at least he is slightly more productive. the real reason for this would be to acquire the pick while giving up nothing.
why for the spurs: elson may very well be out of the rotation, so the downgrade to pob is of no concern (especially if ian replaces elson as the 4th/5th big). the real reason for this move is the 750k or so this deal saves under the tax line. correct me if im wrong, but that would be enough wiggle room to immediately sign a minimum player for the rest of the year (richardson?). so this move doesnt thin them any more at the 4/5, while giving them the ability to sign richardson now (or whoever else they want) for the rest of the year without having to go over the tax line.
How about another swingman possiblity.....
Apparently Gerald Green's agent has requested a trade as his client has clearly fallen out of the rotation and is not in the future plans of the T-Wolves, having his next-year option declined by the team.
I don't know about you, but this reminds me of a few seasons back with the almost-trade of Barry for JR Smith. Green has a world of talent and is still young enough to develop under the right tutiledge. I think the Spurs should make a play for this kid and if it doesn't work out, he's a FA at the end of the season....it's a no-lose situation.
What do you think?
Although, I'd like to be done with Bonner's contract, I think the Spurs hold on to him. When Barry come back, we'll have enough swings. I see Elson, who is worth very liitle to the Spurs at this point, being moved for either another big or a point/combo guard.
If the Spurs can move Elson and save 500,000 on whomever they receive back, then they could afford to sign a Jeremy Richardson type for the remainder of the season.
My list of potentials, that fits the above criteria remains: Villanueva, Frye, and Juan Dixon.
A team that intrigues me is Portland. As others have pointed out, they have a surplus of players when one counts their international rights. Three players on their roster, all whose contracts they may wish to shed, are Jarrett Jack, Martell Webster and Frye. Given our point situation, Jack might be especially helpful to the Spurs. Elson for Jack and Frye works, but is so lopsided in terms of talent that Portland would probably demur--it does clear some cap for them, however. The Spurs would take back two players that they can use, but at the cost of additional 600,000 this season and 3.6 next season. It's the sort of proposition both teams would probably think through.
Marcus Blount >>>>>> Horry replacement then Bonner. I'm not saying the Spurs should trade for him now. Just hope the F.O. pursues a player like him in the future.
I thought about Blount this morning, but looking at his career stats, he needs to play basically 30 mpg to be effective with points AND rebounds. He averaged a career high 7 rpg one season, but he was playing 31 mpg. This year with Miami, he plays 16 mpg and grabs 2.8 rpg. That's worse than Elson-he averages 3.90 rpg in 14.4 mpg. He averages 6 ppg this season. His highest average is 10 or 12 ppg-but again, it took him 31 mpg to get that average.
Reggie Evans would be nice. He's not really a shot blocker but he is a very good rebounder. He's averaging 8 rpg in 25mpg with 76ers, along with 5 points. I'm not sure how important he is to the 76ers though.
While I agree that Duncan's presence means the Spurs should be and are contending for les every year - that's a good thing.
I disagree with the notion that the team cannot afford to infuse their veteran-laden, (old-ass) roster with at least 1 or 2 young, developing players. Players that have done their D-league development tenure and simply need some occasional PT.
Every year, the Spurs go through these "dog days" in the middle of the season when they look either uninspired, unmotivated or simply lack energy. It is precisely during these times when the team's play could be uplifted by the contributions of 1 or 2 young, hungry, athletic players. We've seen recent examples as to the advantages of this approach last week in Houston, and more recently with Detroit and a few other teams.
Barkley said it best. The core of this team has played 100+ games every year for several years - not to mention the slew of international compe ion. A player in his 30's cannot bring it every night - especially on the B2B situations or those 4-in-5 situations. Barkley talked extensively as to how this affected him late in his career.
As this roster gets older, it's a short-sighted approach to continue banking solely on a roster full of aging veterans. A roster of players that, while battle-tested, willand have become susceptible to injury.
At some point, there WILL be a point of diminishing returns. To me, the Spurs shouldn't wait until the "wheels fall off the wagon" to develop a young player or two.
Portland is looking strong and will be vying for a playoff spot this year. Very rarely do playoff-bound teams makes trades with one another when they might see eachother at a critical point in the year. I agree that the Blazers have some interesting prospects and some salary that they'd like to get rid of (LaFrentz, Miles, etc.), but I would look for those to be moved this summer more than likely.
For the Spurs' prospects on trading, I would look to the bottom-feeder teams that are more than likely out of it by the Feb deadline.
Then it's Villanueva!
In all seriousness, I agree that Portland is a long shot. But Pritchard is no fool--meaning he can do salary cap math, count to 15, and knows that there is no way Portland wins the le this year. He's planning for the future, and he might be willing to make a deal, especially with old friends.
There is also this: saddling the Spurs with nearly 4 million in cap hurts their chances of getting James Jones this offseason. Pritchard can only like that.
He may not trade with the Spurs, but I'll be shocked if he doesn't trade at all.
SenorSpur, I hear you, but don't you agree that it takes 1-2 years for good rookies to start contributing... and then they can leave after the third year, right?
Question.
Find someone looking for cap space and dump Barry on 'em.
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