Time to Trade

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

ok, time to dial back some of the more wild trade ideas, and try a good ol' lateral move:

spurs trade: elson, 2008 2nd round pick, cash (300k-800k)
spurs receive: patrick o'bryant

warriors trade: patrick o'bryant
warriors receive: elson, 2008 2nd round pick, cash (300k-800k)

why for the warriors: pob is out of the rotation, and has been for most of his career. nelson seems to have no desire to give him any PT, and the organization has seemed to give up on him (declining his option last summer, making him an UFA this summer). elson probably wont see anymore time than pob, but at least he is slightly more productive. the real reason for this would be to acquire the pick while giving up nothing.

why for the spurs: elson may very well be out of the rotation, so the downgrade to pob is of no concern (especially if ian replaces elson as the 4th/5th big). the real reason for this move is the 750k or so this deal saves under the tax line. correct me if im wrong, but that would be enough wiggle room to immediately sign a minimum player for the rest of the year (richardson?). so this move doesnt thin them any more at the 4/5, while giving them the ability to sign richardson now (or whoever else they want) for the rest of the year without having to go over the tax line.

[hsxvvd]

As an expiring contract, Barry would have some value, but he's probably worth more to us this year than anything that appears to be out there.

It's also hard for us to pull off a mid-year trade and expect any significant contribution from whoever we get, given how long it takes for players to adapt to the system.

[hsxvvd]

Great, so O'Bryant can keep the bench warm while Pop plays Small Ball.

[AFBlue]

As an expiring contract, Barry would have some value, but he's probably worth more to us this year than anything that appears to be out there.

It's also hard for us to pull off a mid-year trade and expect any significant contribution from whoever we get, given how long it takes for players to adapt to the system.

Elson's $3M contract is also expiring. Spurs could add another wing or backcourt player....

And there has been at least one player that has come over and contributed almost immediately....Nazr Mohammed.

[ChumpDumper]

Nazr actually did something in the NBA prior to that though.

I don't feel like doing the Warriors any favors.

[AFBlue]

Nazr actually did something in the NBA prior to that though.

I don't feel like doing the Warriors any favors.

Pietrus might actually contribute if he came over to this team.

But, then again I guess he goes against your six-month rental philosophy...

[ChumpDumper]

Pietrus might actually contribute if he came over to this team.

But, then again I guess he goes against your six-month rental philosophy...

Doubtful.

Is he unrestricted?

[AFBlue]

Doubtful.

Is he unrestricted?

Yep....along with Green, another available swingman.

[ChumpDumper]

Yep....along with Green, another available swingman.

Forget it then.

[ss1986v2]

Doubtful.

Is he unrestricted?

yes, and to make matters worse, because he is playing on his QO, if he agrees to a trade (QO players can refuse trades), he becomes a non-bird free agent that next summer. which means if we were to trade for pietrus this year, next year we would have to spend a portion of our MLE to resign him (no bird rights, so we couldnt go over the cap to sign him). so we actually end up paying for him twice, in a way.

and when you figure he makes more than elson (3 mil vs 3.5 mil) and what that would mean to the spurs tax wise, trading elson for pietrus would be like shooting ourselves in both feet.

[Ghost Writer]

I still think we should look to our old friends PJ Carlessimo or Mike Brown and trade Elson/Barry for some inflated contracts and hope for the best.

W. Szerbiack?

L. Hughes?

Yes, both overrated and expensive, but that's what could make them available.

Seattle wants to stay young and go after the next big free agent.

I bet the Cavs would love to move the disappointing Hughes and bring in a guy who can bang 3s like Barry and Elson (Varejo went down today with an ankle).



I'm just sayin'...



Beggars can't be choosers.

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you want to trade for players like Hughes and West who suck worse than the players you want them to replace?

[Ghost Writer]

Barry is hurt.

Elson is worthless.

Ever hear of a reclamation project?

Check out Hughes numbers with the Wizards.

And Wally is better/younger than Barry.


Why do you want to suck?



P.S.

About G. Green... who cares if he walks? You can sign a free agent in the summer.

[ChumpDumper]

Barry will be back -- and he won't suck when he does come back like Hughes currently does.

Reclamation? The guy is a nine-year vet. And he sucks.

And Wally is better/younger than Barry.

It's difficult to think of a worse $12 million player. If we didn't have to trade half the team, it might be worth considering.

Why do you want to suck?

Why do you want to trade to suck worse?

[Ghost Writer]

Okay, stick with Barry and Elson. Popforbid you get creative. Hope the team gets healthy and we get all the breaks like last year.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Okay, stick with Barry and Elson. Popforbid you get creative. Hope the team gets healthy and we get all the breaks like last year.

Well tell us what realistic trade options we have then.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm all for creativity and trading.

You just suck at creating trades.

[kuato]

Please hire another argentinian player !! :P

[bdictjames]

I'd rather get rid of Finley than Barry.

Finley + Elson for Nocioni sounds pretty nice.. but it feels like we are doing Fin a disservice here, considering he did choose San Antonio even though with a low salary (NBA-term wise)

[pad300]

Well tell us what realistic trade options we have then.

Suggestion- Sign Birdman (Chris Andersen) when he gets reinstated this season. First for a couple of 10 days, to see if he still has it (he used to be a real bundle of energy, shotblocking and rebounding). If he does sign him for the rest of the season (and possibly beyond). To do so, we will have to dump Richardson. Then use Elson (and possibly Bonner and Horry) as trade bait for swing help. Trade Expiring contracts for Expiring contracts or youth. In particular, the T-wolves have Gomes expiring. He might be worth a rental. I'm not so sure about Gerald Green, but he might also be worth considering... I'd also at least talk to the Nuggets about Kleiza, but I doubt he's available.

[ChumpDumper]

The Hornets have the right of first refusal on Andersen and are said to be likely to take it.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I'd give him a shot but I doubt the Spurs are looking at him.

[O.J. Mayonnaise]

I can think of a worse 12 million dollar player. His name is Michael Finley.

[ChumpDumper]

I can think of a worse 12 million dollar player. His name is Michael Finley.

That's why the Spurs pay him $3 million.

[O.J. Mayonnaise]

I'm just saying that If you want a guy to stand in the corner and shoot 3's Szczerbiak is not a bad option. He's shooting 45% from the field and 40% from 3. Finley isn't even shooting 40% from the field.