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    That's why the Spurs pay him $3 million.

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    I'm just saying that If you want a guy to stand in the corner and shoot 3's Szczerbiak is not a bad option. He's shooting 45% from the field and 40% from 3. Finley isn't even shooting 40% from the field.
    But his salary is really $12 million and plays no D.

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    The Hornets have the right of first refusal on Andersen and are said to be likely to take it.

    You think they are going to sign Andersen? I think they would be pretty happy with both their current team and their current chemistry. As I understand it, they have got 30 days to sign him after he is reinstated, otherwise he is an FA. ..

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    Isn't Finley's salary like 21 million? Aren't the mavs still paying him?

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    You think they are going to sign Andersen? I think they would be pretty happy with both their current team and their current chemistry. As I understand it, they have got 30 days to sign him after he is reinstated, otherwise he is an FA. ..
    I'm just saying what I read. I don't believe he would put them over the tax threshold and they have an open roster spot. I fail to see any downside for them.

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    Isn't Finley's salary like 21 million? Aren't the mavs still paying him?
    If the Mavs pay Wally's salary I will gladly welcome him to the Spurs.

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    If the Mavs pay Wally's salary I will gladly welcome him to the Spurs.

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    I was just giving an example of a worse 12 million dollar player.

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    I was just giving an example of a worse 12 million dollar player.
    He's a $3 million Spur.

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    I'm just saying that If you want a guy to stand in the corner and shoot 3's Szczerbiak is not a bad option. He's shooting 45% from the field and 40% from 3. Finley isn't even shooting 40% from the field.
    Szcerbiak is more a mid-range player, he doesn't have Barry's range and is an even worse defender and ball handler.

    I still think we should look to our old friends PJ Carlessimo or Mike Brown and trade Elson/Barry for some inflated contracts and hope for the best.

    W. Szerbiack?

    L. Hughes?

    Yes, both overrated and expensive, but that's what could make them available.

    Seattle wants to stay young and go after the next big free agent.

    I bet the Cavs would love to move the disappointing Hughes and bring in a guy who can bang 3s like Barry and Elson (Varejo went down today with an ankle).



    I'm just sayin'...



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    Hughes is an intereting idea, but he's got a max contract doesn't he? and how many years are left? sounds far too risky and even the best case scenario would see him only earn back-up minutes and still earn max money. He also doesn't seem like the type of player who'd get along with Pop.

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    Speaking of worse 12 million dollar players, is there a worse shooter in the NBA than Hughes. Not only can't he shoot, he constantly takes bad shots.

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    Ah, Hughes is a worse $12 million player than Szczerbiak.

    Good work!

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    I've got another one. Stephon Marbury. That means Szczerbiak is only the 4th worst 12 million dollar player in the NBA

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    This isn't exactly a trade, but a new acquisition....

    Apparently Don Nelson has said he would like for C-Webb to join the Warriors, and with them being at 15 players already, the most likely candidate to get the boot would be the guy on a 10-day contract.....CJ Watson.

    So, if Watson is available for a 10-day contract here in the near future, do you think the Spurs drop Richardson and go after him?

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    OK, one that works according to the RealGM trade checker.

    Barry (expiring), Elson (expiring) & Bonner to Washington

    Antonio Daniels & Thomas to San Antonio (Both have 2 years remaining) They might even throw in a draft pick.

    Thoughts?

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    This isn't exactly a trade, but a new acquisition....

    Apparently Don Nelson has said he would like for C-Webb to join the Warriors, and with them being at 15 players already, the most likely candidate to get the boot would be the guy on a 10-day contract.....CJ Watson.

    So, if Watson is available for a 10-day contract here in the near future, do you think the Spurs drop Richardson and go after him?
    The Spurs probably like Watson, but don't you think they might waive someone who isn't getting any time like O'Bryant?

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    The Spurs probably like Watson, but don't you think they might waive someone who isn't getting any time like O'Bryant?
    Guess they could since he's in the last year of his deal....but he's making over $2M and was their lottery pick just a couple years ago. That's a tough pill to swallow.

    Still, I guess you could be right...

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    About all these trade propositions: there's a reason that the Spurs hardly ever make trade deadline deals. If a player is available it usually means he's old, he sucks, or he's overpaid. Otherwise, why would the team want to get rid of him?

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    Guess they could since he's in the last year of his deal....but he's making over $2M and was their lottery pick just a couple years ago. That's a tough pill to swallow.

    Still, I guess you could be right...
    I think they already passed on O'Bryant's option so it doesn't seem like he has any value to them except as a trade throw-in.

    Watson is playing pretty big minutes.

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    About all these trade propositions: there's a reason that the Spurs hardly ever make trade deadline deals. If a player is available it usually means he's old, he sucks, or he's overpaid. Otherwise, why would the team want to get rid of him?
    Spurs made a trade deadline deal last year for Melvin Ely to save money and possibly for "big man insurance".

    They almost traded Barry for JR Smith two years ago at the deadline, and the deal was only called off because the paperwork came in too late.

    Three years ago it was Malik for Nazr....

    Shall I go on?

    Bottom Line: The Spurs DO make trade deadline deals, but you're right in that they're never for a "star". They're usually cost-cutting or under-the-radar type acquisitions.

    If a trade is made I wouldn't expect the Spurs to get rid of a current rotation contributor.

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    That's the problem, if they don't get rid of a contributor, what can they expect to get back? Teams, excluding the Knicks, aren't going to trade the Spurs good players for horrible ones. The Knicks, on the other hand, are an example of a team that makes a lot of trades. Now, they have a roster full of old, overpaid players who suck.

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    That's the problem, if they don't get rid of a contributor, what can they expect to get back? Teams, excluding the Knicks, aren't going to trade the Spurs good players for horrible ones. The Knicks, on the other hand, are an example of a team that makes a lot of trades. Now, they have a roster full of old, overpaid players who suck.

    Look for players that have fallen out of rotations but still offer decent game. Look for players the Spurs FO previously showed interest in. Look for players that give the Spurs a bit of financial freedom this year and maybe beyond.

    There are a few good ones out there (though admittedly with drawbacks) that could be helpful down the stretch. I don't think people thought Nazr was going to be as big a contributor as he was when the Spurs acquired him, but he gladly suprised us.

    I still look at JR Smith, but at this point who knows....

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    Looking at it that way, a player that fits that mold is Marcus Banks in Phoenix. He has fallen out of favor there, but has tons of talent. Maybe, like Udrih, he just needs a change of scenery.

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    Spurs made a trade deadline deal last year for Melvin Ely to save money and possibly for "big man insurance".

    They almost traded Barry for JR Smith two years ago at the deadline, and the deal was only called off because the paperwork came in too late.

    Three years ago it was Malik for Nazr....

    Shall I go on?

    Bottom Line: The Spurs DO make trade deadline deals, but you're right in that they're never for a "star". They're usually cost-cutting or under-the-radar type acquisitions.

    If a trade is made I wouldn't expect the Spurs to get rid of a current rotation contributor.
    good points, I also don't get why so many people claim, that the Spurs don't or won't make trades at deadline. the answer is, that they constantly work on deadline trades. the only almost sure thing is, that it won't be a blockbuster.
    if they once did a trade when the team was on track for a 64 wins season (2005), there should be enough reason to consider a trade when they are just playing a projected 54 wins season.

    I'm looking at some Eastern teams, there are some scenarios, that are not unrealistic IMO.
    Detroit doesn't use Herrmann. there is a trade restiction, Herrmann can only be traded alone (what makes it a bit difficult, because Spurs don't have the right contract to match), but this restriction expires at 14th of February, just before deadline. after this date it will be easier to build packages the Pistons might be interested in.
    Nets are another of those teams. they look like in panic mode and might go for a blockbuster, but if they don't, there are some scenarios for minor trades that might help both teams.
    Bonner would fill a need for them and Spurs should like players like Boone, Wright (maybe also Planicic). maybe a swap of Elson for Magloire (plus filler to make the numbers work) would also be worth a thought, since both are not used by their teams. at least there is a chance that they fit better with the other team.

    Indy is another team to watch. if JO is out for the season and they find themself out of the PO spots in three weeks, they might decide to start a rebuilding process. which should open a chance to get Foster for expiring contracts.

    and Chicago. same situation like the Nets. if they fail to make the blockbuster all are talking about (Gasol), they might at least try to adjust the roster. the have many holes, but also suffer a lot from a lack of leadership of the current players. this might make players like Barry or Finley lokk more valueble for them, than the numbers would indicate.

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    You guys don't have to like or endorse D. West or Wally or Hughes or Green, but the point here is that we should be looking at guys that their teams want to deal or don't need anymore.

    All I ask is for some creativity, unless you are in favor of standing pat.

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