Hack A Shaq isn't good coaching - Phil Jackson

[DAF86]

All coaches need to have a superstar, around 1-2 sidekicks, and a good supporting cast to win in this league. No matter how great they are, they need that to win. Nothing wrong with that.

Which was the superstar in the Pistons team of 04?

[21GoSpursGo9]

Which was the superstar in the Pistons team of 04?

The amazing balance of their starting 5 is the closest thing I can say on that team. The 60 or so years the league has been alive, the superstar factor has been proven right about 98-99% of the time. 2004 doesnt change that.

If you had a gun to my head and forced me to name the closest superstar on that team, Id say Billups and at some points Sheed. Overall the balance is my ultimate answer though.

[21GoSpursGo9]

Which was the superstar in the Pistons team of 04?

On a side note, your flag says your from Argentina. What part are you from? I have a good friend of mine studying abroad in Buenos Aires.

[kingmalaki]

Phil lets the inmates run the asylum. There's no question he's a great coach, having developed the Triangle to best utilize Jordan in Chicago without making him just create shots the way Doug Collins had. All the credit goes to Phil for maximizing everything Chicago could be, and for getting two of the biggest egomaniacs in NBA history to play nice long enough for a three-peat.

That said, the only thing resembling the Phil of old is his obnoxious mouth. The reason he's not retired now is Wifey.

The inmates run the asylum because he's going through the motions. He's a coach who couldn't accomplish with the best player in the NBA until the GM traded garbage for an All-Star -- which was able to occur because that joke of a franchise in Memphis wants to move again and purposely put together the worst team it could.

He didn't develop the traingle. That is all Tex Winter.

Phil is great at winning when he has the most talent, and losing when he doesn't....just like every other coach.

[Banzai]

fixed.


ps: phil. without kobe/mj he'd be nothing.

what if GP didn't have Duncan?

[DazedAndConfused]

Newsflash Spurs fan, YOU NEED TALENT TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. In fact, you don't just need talent.......you need SUPERSTAR TALENT.

David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen.......these are not ing scrubs you dumb hokeys.

[m33p0]

it worked. stfu, you .

[slayermin]

Newsflash Spurs fan, YOU NEED TALENT TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. In fact, you don't just need talent.......you need SUPERSTAR TALENT.

David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen.......these are not ing scrubs you dumb hokeys.

You'd better be here if and when the Spurs and Lakers play.

[Kyle45]

Newsflash Spurs fan, YOU NEED TALENT TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. In fact, you don't just need talent.......you need SUPERSTAR TALENT.

David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen.......these are not ing scrubs you dumb hokeys.

At least you're rational.

Of course you need talent to win. I think that's the whole point. Phil runs his mouth more than most of the players he's coached, save Kobe and Shaq, as if it's him winning the games and NOT the talent on the floor. He and Pat Riley are the only coaches I can think of who put themselves at the forefront in such a manner.

[peskypesky]

Phil Jackson is a . He's as classless as Shaq.

[DazedAndConfused]

At least you're rational.

Of course you need talent to win. I think that's the whole point. Phil runs his mouth more than most of the players he's coached, save Kobe and Shaq, as if it's him winning the games and NOT the talent on the floor. He and Pat Riley are the only coaches I can think of who put themselves at the forefront in such a manner.

Really? Prove it. Just because you say something about Phil Jackson doesn't make it true. I've noticed Spurs fan likes to do that a lot on this board without backing up what they say.

Not saying it isn't true, but I"d like to see some proof because from what I can remember Phil has been pretty tame since he came to LA. Maybe in his CHI days he was a different man, but he's been all zen every since he started coaching the Lakers.

[samikeyp]

Really? Prove it. Just because you say something about Phil Jackson doesn't make it true. I've noticed Spurs fan likes to do that a lot on this board without backing up what they say.

yes because all Spurs fans act and think the same.

[wijayas]

He's right. While it may be good strategy, it's mainly just ing tacky, and frustrating to watch as a fan. I'm pretty confident in saying that the forefathers of the game probably didn't have it in mind when they created the game. I feel like we don't need to stoop to that level to be successful. Then again, this is the first time I remember Pop doing it for a sustained period of time, and I doubt we'll see it again. Now, I know 98% of this board would eat Pop's feces if he asked them to, so I don't expect many to agree with me in criticizing his choice to do it.

Spurs fan. You can't have it both ways. You want the Spurs to win. When they win, with the strategy you do not seem to approve, you pout. You grumble. You side with the dark side, Phil Jackson!

If you want to coach, get your ass on the sideline. Get a life! Enjoy the game.

[Kyle45]

Really? Prove it. Just because you say something about Phil Jackson doesn't make it true. I've noticed Spurs fan likes to do that a lot on this board without backing up what they say.

Not saying it isn't true, but I"d like to see some proof because from what I can remember Phil has been pretty tame since he came to LA. Maybe in his CHI days he was a different man, but he's been all zen every since he started coaching the Lakers.

All zen. Proof enough?

[wijayas]

Phil Jackson is a . He's as classless as Shaq.

He of the "asterisks"...

[K-State Spur]

what if GP didn't have Duncan?

Pop would be the first to admit that he wouldn't have any rings without Duncan.

As opposed to Phil who can barely fit his ego into the Staples.

[wijayas]

Pop would be the first to admit that he wouldn't have any rings without Duncan. As opposed to Phil who can barely fit his ego into the Staples.

Very true.

[DazedAndConfused]

Phil has every right to think he is the because he IS the .

9 mother ing championship rings, 3 MOTHER ING 3-PEATS. He's taken two completely different teams to the promise land, which is more than you can say for Pop who has been riding on the coattails of Duncan ever since they drafted him.

[samikeyp]

Phil has every right to think he is the because he IS the .

9 mother ing championship rings, 3 MOTHER ING 3-PEATS. He's taken two completely different teams to the promise land, which is more than you can say for Pop who has been riding on the coattails of Duncan ever since they drafted him.

Ok, you can't have it both ways. Pop coattails on a hall of famer but Jackson doesn't? Its the same thing. All championship coaches have the benefit of superstars but its how they handle those stars that separate them from those who don't win. LA had the same cast of characters in 99 when they got swept as they did in 2000 when they won. Have Jackson and Popovich benefited for the players around them? Absolutely. Have they done superior coaching jobs with those players? Absolutely.

[wijayas]

Phil has every right to think he is the because he IS the .

9 mother ing championship rings, 3 MOTHER ING 3-PEATS. He's taken two completely different teams to the promise land, which is more than you can say for Pop who has been riding on the coattails of Duncan ever since they drafted him.

Aha...how fast you forget. 6 of nine comes courtesy of Mr. MJ. A more adept will be to compare MJ's 6 rings vs Pop/TD's 4 rings and counting. We'll see.

Another think: just because you have rings on all your fingers, you can still play nice. And that is what Pop is all about. Playing nice and admit that he is ready to bolt when DUncan retires. Will Phil say the same thing? Yes, when the freezes over. Phil got too much in his head to admit what Pop readily did.

[Purple & Gold]

@ at all these stupid spurs fans getting their panties in a bunch.


Pop better than Phil
.04 only reason you lost against the Lakers
spurs deserve 3 more trophies

I thought Cali had the best chronic, but it looks like everybody in S.A. is high as a kite.


Get used to it spurs fans, this is a Laker world and spurs fans are nothing but second class citizens. Phil will prove again why the Lakers are the best Franchise in all of sports.


14 's already with #15 on the way.

[samikeyp]

@ at all these stupid spurs fans getting their panties in a bunch.


Pop better than Phil
.04 only reason you lost against the Lakers
spurs deserve 3 more trophies

I thought Cali had the best chronic, but it looks like everybody in S.A. is high as a kite.


Get used to it spurs fans, this is a Laker world and spurs fans are nothing but second class citizens. Phil will prove again why the Lakers are the best Franchise in all of sports.


14 's already with #15 on the way.

Saying Phil Jackson is a good coach is having my "panties in a bunch"?

um...ok.

[Purple & Gold]

Ok, you can't have it both ways. Pop coattails on a hall of famer but Jackson doesn't? Its the same thing. All championship coaches have the benefit of superstars but its how they handle those stars that separate them from those who don't win. LA had the same cast of characters in 99 when they got swept as they did in 2000 when they won. Have Jackson and Popovich benefited for the players around them? Absolutely. Have they done superior coaching jobs with those players? Absolutely.

He pointed out that Pop had great talent as well because for whatever reason spur fans think PJ is the only coach that's ever had talent.

[wijayas]

@ at all these stupid spurs fans getting their panties in a bunch.


Pop better than Phil
.04 only reason you lost against the Lakers
spurs deserve 3 more trophies

I thought Cali had the best chronic, but it looks like everybody in S.A. is high as a kite.


Get used to it spurs fans, this is a Laker world and spurs fans are nothing but second class citizens. Phil will prove again why the Lakers are the best Franchise in all of sports.


14 's already with #15 on the way.

Phoenix Suns said the same thing over and over. They are the better team and what not. What do they get in return? A good old fashion spanking!

Let's get too carried away. We have our hands full with the Hornets. And you better pray that Houston beats Jazz. Pau is too soft to handle Carlos.

[Purple & Gold]

Saying Phil Jackson is a hall of fame coach is having my "panties in a bunch"?

um...ok.

If the shoe (or panties) don't fit, don't wear 'em.