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^ I felt really gay reading that as it is wrote in my head. Not that there's anything wrong with it. /George
DR. JAMES NAISMITH: Gentlemen! We are convened here to-day so that we may now forge the path our beloved pastime shall e'er follow.I'm pretty confident in saying that the forefathers of the game probably didn't have Hack-A-Shaq in mind when they created the game.
PHOG ALLEN: Indeed, Doctor. We should see to it that the doings on the floor shall not be run afoul by the very butchers who have sullied the likes of Foot-ball and Fisticuffs.
AMOS ALONZO STAGG: A fine sentiment, Allen. Let's begin with Mr. Rupp. What sort of base element shall we keep out of our game?
ADOLPH RUPP: Negroes.
NAISMITH: Get the out of here, you asshole. Now, what say you, Stagg?
STAGG: Just suppose - let us say a player were to be fouled and perhaps was not skilled at the practice of "Free Throws". Why, a very scoundrel might catch on to the notion of fouling him again and again! Do we want that?
ALLEN: Ha! Ha! Ha! Oh, Stagg, you are rich!
NAISMITH: Ha! Ha! Ha! Indeed, Stagg! The "Free Throw", why, 'tis nought but a stationary hurl just five yards from the peach basket! What imbecile could not succeed at the practice?
ALLEN: The very idea, Stagg!
STAGG: Ha! Ha! Ha! Of course, 'twas a mere jest on my part!
NAISMITH: You devilish rascal, you!
^ I felt really gay reading that as it is wrote in my head. Not that there's anything wrong with it. /George
I've been around to remember, enjoy, and live with the great Lakers/Celtics rivalries of the 80's.
And Facts?? I hear spurs fans here talking all day as if their don't stink. You guys are last years Champs not this years Champs. So please stop calling yourself the NBA Champions. This year you're just another team trying to get a trophy. Those are the facts.
As for being stepped on. I could care less what type of inferiority complex you guys have. And you should really care less what other people or other fans think. You guys have 4 rings in a short span. Very very impressive. Not as impressive as the Lakers, but still very impressive. You should be happy with being a great Franchise, just not the best Franchise. That le belongs to the Lakers. As well as another Team of the Decade le that is just around the corner.
hahaha... very original!!!
That's fair. But when another poster invokes "the Founding Fathers of basketball" as an argument against strategy, well, sometimes you just have to fight gay with gay.I felt really gay reading that
Actually the term is "defending champions" which is correct. While I feel that the Spurs run is as impressive as the Lakers, no one here is saying the Spurs are the franchise of all time. If we are doing that, then I would say Boston and their 16 les. I do think that the Spurs are the best franchise currently in the NBA. Let's be honest though, P&G, even if the Spurs won the next three in a row, you still would think LA's run this decade was more impressive but hey, you have that right. Just as I have the right to disagree. That is what makes it fun.
Please...... Everybody and their mom knew the spurs were tanking games for Duncan. Robinson was held out for an extremely long and questionable time. Duncan was a bonified/sure thing NBA HOF'er when he was still in college. He would have been the easy #1 pick a year earlier as well. At the time it was the consensus that the spurs were tanking for Duncan.
So know PJ is trashing other coaches game plans.
He said it was not in the spirit of the game to foul off the ball. I agree it's not. But it's legal so whatever floats your boat. As for trashing Kobe in a book. So what. They get paid millions to deal with that type of . And they seem to have looked past it and not let it affect their relationship at all.
When your two best players only play 45 games total, you have such stellar names as Jamie Feick, Gaylon Nickerson and Steven Howard suit up for your team and your leading scorer is 37 years old.....you don't have to tank.Please...... Everybody and their mom knew the spurs were tanking games for Duncan. Robinson was held out for an extremely long and questionable time. Duncan was a bonified/sure thing NBA HOF'er when he was still in college. He would have been the easy #1 pick a year earlier as well. At the time it was the consensus that the spurs were tanking for Duncan.
So know PJ is trashing other coaches game plans.
He said it was not in the spirit of the game to foul off the ball. I agree it's not. But it's legal so whatever floats your boat. As for trashing Kobe in a book. So what. They get paid millions to deal with that type of . And they seem to have looked past it and not let it affect their relationship at all.
Actually, you don't know the Spurs were tanking.....no one here does. You are of the opinion they were and it is very possible. I don't think they were but that is just my .02.
Actually I made a thread about it before. You guys have 4 les, while the Lakers have 3. The threepeat is the tiebreaker in the run for Team of the Decade. So the spurs are actually ahead in that category.Actually the term is "defending champions" which is correct. While I feel that the Spurs run is as impressive as the Lakers, no one here is saying the Spurs are the franchise of all time. If we are doing that, then I would say Boston and their 16 les. I do think that the Spurs are the best franchise currently in the NBA. Let's be honest though, P&G, even if the Spurs won the next three in a row, you still would think LA's run this decade was more impressive but hey, you have that right. Just as I have the right to disagree. That is what makes it fun.
But not for long
Remember back in the day when this thread was about the hack-a-shaq ploy?
I'm sure you remember what most were thinking and saying at the time though.When your two best players only play 45 games total, you have such stellar names as Jamie Feick, Gaylon Nickerson and Steven Howard suit up for your team and your leading scorer is 37 years old.....you don't have to tank.
Actually, you don't know the Spurs were tanking.....no one here does. You are of the opinion they were and it is very possible. I don't think they were but that is just my .02.
I know....I discussed this with you in that thread. I do agree though, this playoffs will settle that because I think either SA or LA will win it all.Actually I made a thread about it before. You guys have 4 les, while the Lakers have 3. The threepeat is the tiebreaker in the run for Team of the Decade. So the spurs are actually ahead in that category.
It's called Mitch being shrewed and the Laker organization having a "Non Panic" approach concerning Kobe. I would understand why Pop would be jelous though.
Dominique Wilkins couldn't carry that load alone in '97Please...... Everybody and their mom knew the spurs were tanking games for Duncan. Robinson was held out for an extremely long and questionable time. Duncan was a bonified/sure thing NBA HOF'er when he was still in college. He would have been the easy #1 pick a year earlier as well. At the time it was the consensus that the spurs were tanking for Duncan.
So know PJ is trashing other coaches game plans.
He said it was not in the spirit of the game to foul off the ball. I agree it's not. But it's legal so whatever floats your boat. As for trashing Kobe in a book. So what. They get paid millions to deal with that type of . And they seem to have looked past it and not let it affect their relationship at all.
I felt the Hack-a-Shaq was overrated. The off-the-ball fouls were, at most, four times a game, not really the disruption to the "entertainment" as some (not Jackson) have claimed. So in that essence, I feel like the whole thing has been overblown.
Point taken on Kobe getting over it.
Absolutely and if I were looking at it from outside Spur Nation, I can see where people say that and it is entirely possible it was true. It is equally possible that Robinson was actually injured and could not play. The thing is, the people who do know, will never tell so the thought will always linger.
Hey Lakers fans you don't like us calling the Spurs the champions. I have just one thing to say to you: Come and get it.
So which teams were involved in collusion??
Pop is a lot of things, but I doubt he was jealous.
Was the deal shady? Maybe but hey, the NBA allowed it so nothing else matters. You still have to play the games.
Right. It's not like watching Charlie Villanueva walk up and down the court, not crash the boards and take possessions off.
Then again, that could be because Villanueva is just lazy
I agree it will be a great series. Jazz are an easy matchup for the Lakers. Kobe destroys them every time. NO is a bit harder matchup for the spurs, but I still think their inexperience will be their downfall. I've been waiting for another Laker/spur series for a long time. I'm positive it won't disappoint.
True
Nobody says they don't like it. I'm just pointing out facts.Hey Lakers fans you don't like us calling the Spurs the champions. I have just one thing to say to you: Come and get it.
It was a big deal at the time and will probably always be used to downplay the spurs of this decade. Fair or not it is what it is. Especially between fans of opposing teams. We are called fanatics for a reason.
I agree with all you're points. As far as the Hack-a-Shaq, it worked it and disrupted the suns runs, it got Shaq off the floor and most importantly it resulted in a Spurs win and subsequently winning the series 4-1 in minimal time. The reason that is epic is because I think Manu is more hurt then we're being told. Pop wanted to get this thing over at any cost so Manu could get the rest and treatment that he needed. It's called strategy, and I would say it worked and netted the desired result.Dominique Wilkins couldn't carry that load alone in '97
I felt the Hack-a-Shaq was overrated. The off-the-ball fouls were, at most, four times a game, not really the disruption to the "entertainment" as some (not Jackson) have claimed. So in that essence, I feel like the whole thing has been overblown.
Point taken on Kobe getting over it.
On another note, Phil may be the best coach and he probably is, he certainly has the most rings. But I'm betting that if Pop had had the luxury of coaching Jordan and Pippen for 7 or 8 years then he would have added a few more rings to the 4 that he has now. That damn Phil Jackson, lucky Johnny on the spot.
Agree
It's time to get it on. And the talking will be at an alltime high.
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