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    Without Manu, Spurs won´t even going to play the next playoff!! Some people are forgetting that the only win against the lakers was with Manu in his best game and he also was determinant to beat the Hornets.....

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    So you guys are saying, keep Tony, Duncan, Bowen and Manu.

    Then wait for somebody to trade a young talented player for Fabricio, Finley, Horry, JV, Ime, Mighty Mouse? The Spurs have gone to the well too many times and now it's dry.

    The Spurs haven't traditionally done well in the free agent market so I really don't see options other than trading 1 of the Big 3.

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    I would feel better if they can find another 13-16 ppg guy and keep Manu's minutes well under 30 and bring him back to the bench full time. Manu does well in spurts with less minutes. I'm not super hot on it but they could probably sign and trade for Redds contract.

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    Then wait for somebody to trade a young talented player for Fabricio, Finley, Horry, JV, Ime, Mighty Mouse?
    Worked for you guys...

    In all seriousness, with a healthy Manu, this team wasn't that far away. I can make a good case that this team was talented enough to be up 3-1 heading into last night game. They just simply didn't make enough plays when they needed to.

    Yes, some youth and athleticism needs to be added to the mix, but it doesn't have to be an all-star type of player either.

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    Worked for you guys...

    In all seriousness, with a healthy Manu, this team wasn't that far away. I can make a good case that this team was talented enough to be up 3-1 heading into last night game. They just simply didn't make enough plays when they needed to.

    Yes, some youth and athleticism needs to be added to the mix, but it doesn't have to be an all-star type of player either.
    Heheh, yes, it worked for the Lakers but that was after 3 years of suckiness and mediocrity.

    I'm not sure the Spurs would be up 3-1 with a healthy Manu, the fact remains that the bench is useless outside of Barry. You usually can't win a le with only a 6 man rotation. But that's water under the bridge, no point in debating it this year.

    Without waiting 3 years for a miracle trade, what possible way could the Spurs get a proven young talent without trading a Big 3 player? Not an All-Star, just any good young talent. I can't think of any good young guys who can be picked up for free (non-trade)

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    Option 1: Sign Ramunas Siskauskas for MLE, he can play 3 positions, a good defender and will improve ball movement. He is not athletic but SPURS can fill this hole by drafting Courtney Lee or Bill Walker. Then, for LLE, let's see whether V Span still have interest in SPURS. For min, maybe PJ Brown. Re-sign KT. Trade Bonner for Reggie Evan

    Option 2. Sign Ronny Turiaf or Diop for most of MLE. Then sign or trade for a young SG like CJ Mile. Re-sign KT. Draft a PG. Trade Bonner for cap room.
    Option 1 is one of the smarter things said on this thread. Siskauskas is practically a go at this point. Not to say he's a great solution, but there are few options. Spanoulis might have to be a real try, too.

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    What about Monta Ellis? The Spurs are good defensively. They need more scoring. I know Ellis is more of a small shooting gaurd, but just want your thoughts.

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    Monta Ellis is a very good player but probably too small to play next to Parker. The Spurs would be left majorly undersized with a Parker/Monta back court. And Monta is too valuable now to be played as a backup guard.

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    Splitter is unproven and likely to cost too much since he resigned with Tao...now Turiaf could be a guy to take a look at....
    splitter was drafted in the first round
    the nba has rules on how much spurs can give him
    now if he was drafted in second round then spurs could sign him to any amount

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    I'm not sure the Spurs would be up 3-1 with a healthy Manu, the fact remains that the bench is useless outside of Barry.

    Without waiting 3 years for a miracle trade, what possible way could the Spurs get a proven young talent without trading a Big 3 player? Not an All-Star, just any good young talent. I can't think of any good young guys who can be picked up for free (non-trade)
    I'm not saying that the Spurs would have been up 3-1 with a healthy Manu - only that the "old" roster was talented enough, that it put itself in a position where it should have been up 3-1 even with a gimpy Manu.

    Every year, there are quite a few good young talents who are picked up later in the draft or traded for virtually nothing. Athletic wings are pretty easy to find around the league - it's just about finding one that is the right fit for this team.

    Trade Manu, and they'd be lucky if they could replace him with 2 guys who can match his productivity or efficiency (when healthy).

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    This guy needs to be our starting 2guard next year.


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    Get Haslem, Kapono, Azuibukee

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    splitter was drafted in the first round
    the nba has rules on how much spurs can give him
    now if he was drafted in second round then spurs could sign him to any amount
    Yeah but remember the Spurs would have to buyout his contract which will mean more money. It's not what the Spurs can offer him, that's already set, it's the money they would have to pay Tau just to get him in the States.

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    Get Haslem, Kapono, Azuibukee
    i don't want any part of kapono's contract.

    even at 37, barry is likely to give you similar production for a fraction of the cost.

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    I believe the combo of Kelenna, Brandon Bass, Ian and drafting both a long wingplayer and back-up PG could help this team headed in a younger direction quickly. Of course, they'd face growing pains but it would be worth it.

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    Yeah but remember the Spurs would have to buyout his contract which will mean more money. It's not what the Spurs can offer him, that's already set, it's the money they would have to pay Tau just to get him in the States.
    they can only offer him 500k by league rules for nba buyout
    spurs would do that they are not cheap

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    I believe the combo of Kelenna, Brandon Bass, Ian and drafting both a long wingplayer and back-up PG could help this team headed in a younger direction quickly. Of course, they'd face growing pains but it would be worth it.
    Bass is going no where.


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    Keep Tim, Tony, Manu, Bruce, and Brent.

    Encourage Fin and Rob to retire.

    Drop JV and Damon.

    Be willing to package any of Bonner, Udoka, Oberto and whoever else is left and see if you can get anything young and decent or maybe to try to move up in the draft.

    Have Mahinmi work out all summer with Duncan beginning on Monday.

    Get a young swingman who can score with the MLE.

    Search for a Bruce Jr. and a backup point.

    Draft an athletic 3/4.

    I think Udoka may be the bruce jr..He's a very good defensive player.I like hes energy .Pop should consider him for another season.vaughn,fabricio,horry finley hav to go !

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    Kelenna Azuibuike.

    Is he a FA next season?

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    giving up on Beno Udrih was stupid too

    for all the great moves the Spurs front office makes, when they make a bad one, they make it big time........Udrih, Scola.........and if this Splitter crap is true........ugh!

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    giving up on Beno Udrih was stupid too

    for all the great moves the Spurs front office makes, when they make a bad one, they make it big time........Udrih, Scola.........and if this Splitter crap is true........ugh!

    oh, and trading Barbosa too

    I know we didn't have the roster space at the time, but can you imagine if we had Parker and Barbosa in the same backcourt ?

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    now that splitter is out, i think we need to draft the BEST player available at our draft position. whether its a PG, C, SF, PF, SG (i did miss anything?) we need help at every position. WITH splitter i would have went after a 2/3 since the PG class is weak around our range.

    i think we need to go after another allstar and hopefully convince him to take the MLE. we need someone that can create their own offense. i like the role players being mentioned here (azbuike, gomes, etc) but i think we need to make a bigger splash.

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    There's been speculation that the Blazers or T-Wolves, both with two early 2nd round draft picks, might be interested in a late 1st for them (plus incentives). I've heard Detroit is looking to do the same thing. Given that we lost Splitter, I like this route more. Shrewd picks early in the 2nd might yield good players - Lester Hudson, Joey Dorsey, Pat Calathes, JR Giddens all come to mind - and the team needs lots of help. The downside is trusting shrewd picks.

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    giving up on Beno Udrih was stupid too

    for all the great moves the Spurs front office makes, when they make a bad one, they make it big time........Udrih, Scola.........and if this Splitter crap is true........ugh!

    Udrih had thousands of chances.

    Period.

    He failed. Next.

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