Get Refuel: How To Rebuild For 2008-09

[JUUOT]

The two easiest spots to fill are the sixth big and the backup point. If Chalmers is on the board at 26, perhaps you take him and then get your swingman youngster at 45 by taking someone like Weems, Giddens or Forbes. I don't agree with au cuz au is even worse than Vaughn. I'd go with someone like Juan Dixon with the LLE.

PLEASE NO! I have seen first hand dixon as a raptor and he can not play any point guard minutes, and he was sold to raptors fan as a 3point threat too but that disappeared too. might as well rely on barry. Jarrett Jack definitly intrigues me way more. What would it take to get him from there?

Also i really think that out of the 4 needs identified by ocotillo the back up point guard is the one i worry about the least. vaughn and barry can run it.
my ideal scenario is MLE and 1 pick on wing, for the Big and the PG i don't really mind what happens. , bringing back horry as the 6th would be fine with me.

lol i just read again what you guys said and i am in agreement. just reading dixon's name fired me up

[pad300]

Strategy Question Time

Traditionally we have carried 3 PGs on the 15 man roster

05/06 Parker, NVE, Beno
06/07 Parker, Vaughn, Beno
07/08 Parker, Vaughn, MM/Darius Washington

In all cases our 3ed option PG has been pretty useless, and sometimes our 2nd option as well. Both Manu and Barry have played point for us in critical situations when parker needed a break... We effectively Benched Vaughn, Beno, and MM in the playoffs, and should have benched NVE vs Dallas.

Should we really carry 3 pg's? Or would we be better served by admitting that our PG Rotation really looks like : Parker, Vaughn, Barry/Manu and should stay that way...

This gives us 4 players who can fill the spot, and frees up a roster spot. This spot could be used for a tweener SF/PF type that would help a lot of matchup problems. Projecting from this strategically gives us

Signed and Definitely Back
Bigs - TD, Mahinmi
Wings - Bowen, Udoka, Manu
PG's - Parker, Barry (Has a player option, that I presume he will exercise to stay with the team - why else would he have negotiated for it...)

Likely to be back (Signed but possibly traded)
Bigs - Oberto, Bonner
PGs - Vaughn

Likely to be resigned
Bigs - Thomas (we have his Bird rights, and he is a vet)

Leaving 4 roster spots for FA's and draft picks...
Sign Nick Fazekas as a project 6th big - offer him 2 guaranteed years of vet min and he will jump on it...
Offer a 5 year Full MLE contract, with a team option at the start of year 3 (10/11 season) to JR Smith. If he doesn't accept, move on to Azabuike (possibly offer less money...) and then maybe Gomes
Draft the Best wing prospect available - Maybe Bill Walker
Use either 2nd round picks or LLE to get a SF/PF tweener for small ball play... Or maybe even that Georgian guy we have rights to - Sanikidze

[Spur-Addict]

Strategy Question Time

Traditionally we have carried 3 PGs on the 15 man roster

05/06 Parker, NVE, Beno
06/07 Parker, Vaughn, Beno
07/08 Parker, Vaughn, MM/Darius Washington

In all cases our 3ed option PG has been pretty useless, and sometimes our 2nd option as well. Both Manu and Barry have played point for us in critical situations when parker needed a break... We effectively Benched Vaughn, Beno, and MM in the playoffs, and should have benched NVE vs Dallas.

Should we really carry 3 pg's? Or would we be better served by admitting that our PG Rotation really looks like : Parker, Vaughn, Barry/Manu and should stay that way...

This gives us 4 players who can fill the spot, and frees up a roster spot. This spot could be used for a tweener SF/PF type that would help a lot of matchup problems. Projecting from this strategically gives us

Signed and Definitely Back
Bigs - TD, Mahinmi
Wings - Bowen, Udoka, Manu
PG's - Parker, Barry (Has a player option, that I presume he will exercise to stay with the team - why else would he have negotiated for it...)

Likely to be back (Signed but possibly traded)
Bigs - Oberto, Bonner
PGs - Vaughn

Likely to be resigned
Bigs - Thomas (we have his Bird rights, and he is a vet)

Leaving 4 roster spots for FA's and draft picks...
Sign Nick Fazekas as a project 6th big - offer him 2 guaranteed years of vet min and he will jump on it...
Offer a 5 year Full MLE contract, with a team option at the start of year 3 (10/11 season) to JR Smith. If he doesn't accept, move on to Azabuike (possibly offer less money...) and then maybe Gomes
Draft the Best wing prospect available - Maybe Bill Walker
Use either 2nd round picks or LLE to get a SF/PF tweener for small ball play... Or maybe even that Georgian guy we have rights to - Sanikidze

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

i have a question for Spurs fan, it is in regards to the Nuggets draft. Should they take Chalmers at #20?

[cze1860]

i have a question for Spurs fan, it is in regards to the Nuggets draft. Should they take Chalmers at #20?

no one konws except manager of Nuggets。

[bigdog]

i have a question for Spurs fan, it is in regards to the Nuggets draft. Should they take Chalmers at #20?

well, does his game fit your team? he's not an amazing point guard, and is better when playing off the ball.

i think denver needs a real point guard on that team.

[Biggems]

well, does his game fit your team? he's not an amazing point guard, and is better when playing off the ball.

i think denver needs a real point guard on that team.

Chalmers = taller Earl Boykins

I hope that answers your question.

[Biggems]

Of course no chance in ...with us...here's some more info on it..realgm.com has a 30 teams in 30 days thing going on..heres the link..

http://realgm.com/src_twoplusthefoul...draft_preview/

Sorry bout the long link...it wouldn't let me name the link


Here's he part we are talking about...

Greatest Areas of Improvement:


Upgrade at Small Forward
As mentioned above, this team only has two holes in the starting five – point guard and small forward. Martell Webster has been a suitable starter, and Travis Outlaw and James Jones provide plenty of punch off the bench, but if they wish to take themselves deep into the postseason, they need to consider packaging all of these extraneous point guards and small forwards and trade for an elite All Star level player at the three position.

Who Do the Fans Want?

According to Andrew Perna’s Portland Lottery Summit, an interactive column featuring the responses of true RealGM hoops fans hoping to add their two cents to the Trail Blazer Draft discussion, the fans of Portland have made it known that they would an upgrade at the small forward position. The consensus of the Blazer faithful suggested whom they want as the thirteenth overall selection in the 2008 NBA Draft:

Nicolas Batum, SF – France

They would be fools to pass on Joe Alexander if he is still there at 13. He can play both F positions. He and Aldridge would make a very nice starting F tandem. In fact, if Oden comes back healthy.....that starting front line of Oden, Aldridge, and Alexander will be very formidable on the defensive end and very solid on the offensive end.

[DPG21920]

Ramon Sessions, Rashad McCants and John Salmons would be nice if we could not get J.R.

How about this trade. The Bulls need active big men that are veterans and have high basketball I.Q. The Spurs need to get younger, more athletic and need some upside at the 2 spot and the 3/4 spots. I feel this trade solves both problems. Let me know what you think:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...4~24&te=&cash=

[lotr1trekkie]

Time to be bold, RC! We have a 4 year window with Timmy and Manu. Need to ask the shareholders to take a hit on the salary cap because the the will get their return if we are still winning rings.
If Elton Brand opts out we need to go for him. Tim moves to center officially[for All Star voting purposes]. They are worth 45 and 25 every nite. Pau or Elton---not even close. Brand wants to play for a perrenial winner---that's the Spurs. He might make some sacrifices to play alongside Tim. Time to go for it. Don't worry about 2010 and Lebron.

[vander]

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horry
finley
vaugn
thomas

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mahimni
sasha vujacic

barry and manu can back up the point or we could go after gibson from cleveland

[tonski17]

scola was really a loss for the spurs.. i hope they can still get splitter back..
health was really a problem for them and also conditioning.. i hope they would bounce back next season, because its an odd number year again..ehehe
manu should be healthy he's the firestarter for their team..

[Manufan909]

I know many on here have prophesized down years because the Spurs will be restructuring, but what about this years Celtics? Not only are they one win away from winning a Championship, but their whole team is practially new to each other. , their Big3 just got together this year. Since the Spurs have a Big 3 that KNOW each other, and will hopefully get MUCH younger, wouldn't it be possible for them to replicate Boston's success next year? I didn't personally like JR this season, or Sasha for that matter, but if we could somehow get them with the MLE and LLE I think that would be a stellar team for sure, since it would look like this:

(I am putting who I think should start first)
PG: Tony 25, Vaughn 6, Barry 14
SG: JR 24, Manu 27
SF: Udoka 26, Bowen 22
PF: Tim 26, Bonner 14
C: Mahinmi 26, KT 15, Fabricio 15

I'd like to see this for at least the first ten games to see what the new players are made of.

[Spur-Addict]

I know many on here have prophesized down years because the Spurs will be restructuring, but what about this years Celtics? Not only are they one win away from winning a Championship, but their whole team is practially new to each other. , their Big3 just got together this year. Since the Spurs have a Big 3 that KNOW each other, and will hopefully get MUCH younger, wouldn't it be possible for them to replicate Boston's success next year? I didn't personally like JR this season, or Sasha for that matter, but if we could somehow get them with the MLE and LLE I think that would be a stellar team for sure, since it would look like this:

(I am putting who I think should start first)
PG: Tony 25, Vaughn 6, Barry 14
SG: JR 24, Manu 27
SF: Udoka 26, Bowen 22
PF: Tim 26, Bonner 14
C: Mahinmi 26, KT 15, Fabricio 15

I'd like to see this for at least the first ten games to see what the new players are made of.

At least one of those players cannot be on the roster in my opinion. It's out of Bonn, KT and Oberto. Hopefully, it's Bonn on his way out.

[Big P]

They would be fools to pass on Joe Alexander if he is still there at 13. He can play both F positions. He and Aldridge would make a very nice starting F tandem. In fact, if Oden comes back healthy.....that starting front line of Oden, Aldridge, and Alexander will be very formidable on the defensive end and very solid on the offensive end.

I hear you about Alexander...whats even more interesting is what is going to happen to the SG/SF position in Portland after they bring Rudy Fernandez in next year...I know the article is from Hoopsworld, but it does seem to clear the picture up in Portland of who may be in & who may be out...

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9080

Making Room For Rudy

By: Wendell Maxey Last Updated: 6/7/08 5:58 PM ET | 3278 times read
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Rudy Fernandez is finally coming to Portland, and the Blazers are finally putting the pieces together for next season. But how exactly does Rudy fit into the plans in the Blazers backcourt?

After numerous recruiting visits from the Blazers front office – including owner Paul Allen - over the past few months, Fernandez announced on Friday that he's agreed to join Portland, a decision Fernandez admitted was not an easy one by any means.

"It wasn't an easy decision to take but it is the time for a new challenge after a fantastic year with (DKV) Joventut," the 23-year-old shooting guard, who plans to join the Blazers after the Olympic Games in Beijing this summer, said.

"They have pushed hard for me to join them and have assured me I will be an important figure for them."

The question now is will the "important figure" make the Blazers starting five? Or does Fernandez join the likes of friend and countryman Sergio Rodriguez in the second unit, a role even Rodriguez had difficulty cracking for head coach Nate McMillan? Then again, finding a role that fits Fernandez – and the Blazers - best is one of several adjustments GM Kevin Pritchard and head coach Nate McMillan will look to solve this offseason.

Now with Fernandez available at shooting guard, does McMillan finally make Brandon Roy the Blazers full-time starting point guard? Does Pritchard select another point guard in the upcoming NBA Draft, or shop the free agent market for a floor general?

Obviously, Portland will be better off with Fernandez, a two guard who has a shelf full of MVP trophies and continues to draw comparisons to the San Antonio Spurs Manu Ginobili, than without him. And although many of the backcourt and roster dilemmas in Portland will play themselves out in the coming months as player pieces begin fall into place, Fernandez' arrival certainly creates a ripple effect on the rest of the team.

James Jones – an unrestricted free agent and perhaps one of the most integral members of the Blazers last season – has a choice to make about returning to Portland this offseason.

With Portland already crammed at small forward with Travis Outlaw and Martell Webster, the addition of Fernandez could have a bearing on his decision. Jones (8 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 44% 3pt fg) was troubled by a knee injury for the majority of last season and appeared in only 58 games, but when healthy and on the court the sharpshooter made every minute and shot count. Knowing Portland's obsession with getting older instead of younger, losing Jones to free agency would be a major loss in the locker room and on the floor.

Martell Webster is also sure to have his role re-adjusted.

Throughout all of last season, it was more common than not to have McMillan and his coaching staff to ask for more consistent scoring from Webster. Yet the jury is still out if the Blazers liked what they saw. Did Webster really improve? Was he aggressive enough going to the hoop when he put the ball on the floor? His numbers were up (10.7 ppg., 38% 3pt fg) and so were his minutes (28.4 in 70 starts), but will that be the case next season?

Webster – who has been rumored to be on the block in Portland – may be the odd man out at small forward, especially considering how crucial Travis Outlaw was to the Blazers success last season and knowing the supporting minutes behind Roy may not be there anymore.

Jarrett Jack will also fill some ill effects with a new guard in town.

Jack is no stranger to trade talks, and last season was rumored to land in Cleveland or New Jersey at February's trade deadline. After sharing time with Steve Blake and Segrio Rodriguez in the Blazers backcourt, Jack often found himself watching from the sidelines in the fourth quarter while McMillan opted for placing the ball in Brandon Roy's hands. McMillan has already admitted he isn't opposed to having Roy run the point more often next season. Couple this with Fernandez' recent arrival - and belief that the Spaniard could even soak up minutes running the point now and again - and Jack's days in Portland could be coming to an end.

Portland now finds themselves in a high stakes poker game with plenty of chips to work with.

They have some players available to move if needed (read: Webster, Jack, and perhaps even Channing Frye), and four draft picks (13, 33, 36, 55) to use as liquid assets. The rest of June and surely July will bring more changes for the organization, but for now there is a true excitement around Portland with Rudy Fernandez named the newest member of the Blazers.

Let the chips fall where they may.

[Sway]

Wow, Im still amazed everytime I look at all the talent that Portland is bringing in. They have the talent to be really good for a long time. My hat is off to the job their FO has done.

[Manufan909]

At least one of those players cannot be on the roster in my opinion. It's out of Bonn, KT and Oberto. Hopefully, it's Bonn on his way out.

I don't know, I seem to differ with nearly every fan on this forum when I argue for Bonner to stay. He has a stroke, alot of energy, he hustles every second he's out there, AND he is 27, I don't think we should trade any of the 20yr olds for the moment. But I don't know who I'd rather have stay: KT or Fab. They both do all the little things, but Fab knows Manu inside and out, while KT brings another defensive ace to the table, especially when it comes to players like Shaq. I think I'd go with KT over Fab, and maybe try for Diop. Then the Spurs would have 3 big men who could control the paint.

[Sway]

After posting this in another thread I realized that it should have gone here. My apologies if you have already read it.

For some reason this upcoming Draft and FA have really caught my attention this year. Maybe its because how important it is that we have a good Summer, especially since Splitter isnt coming over. Here is my list of players I like:

Draft:

PG: Ty Lawson (20), Mario Chalmers (26), Lester Hudson (48), George Hill (undrafted?)

SG: Brandon Rush (15), Courtney Lee (27), Chris Douglas-Roberts (28)

SF: Donte Greene (14), Nicholas Batum (21), Bill Walker (31), Omri Caspi (39), Pat Calathes (45), Keith Brumbaugh (undrafted?)

PF: Marreese Speights (23), Jason Thompson (37), Ryan Anderson (36)

FA:

(1) JR Smith (2) Kelenna Azubuike, (3) James Jones or Matt Barnes


Ideally the Spurs can trade/buy for a mid-first rounder (as has been rummored) making my ideal Summer something like this:

Draft:

Mid-1st: Donte Greene

#26: Marreese Speights

#45: Lester Hudson or George Hill

#57: Trade away?

FA:

MLE: JR Smith

Now that is what I call a Summer! Too bad its only going to happen in my dreams.

[Spur-Addict]

After posting this in another thread I realized that it should have gone here. My apologies if you have already read it.

For some reason this upcoming Draft and FA have really caught my attention this year. Maybe its because how important it is that we have a good Summer, especially since Splitter isnt coming over. Here is my list of players I like:

Draft:

PG: Ty Lawson (20), Mario Chalmers (26), Lester Hudson (48), George Hill (undrafted?)

SG: Brandon Rush (15), Courtney Lee (27), Chris Douglas-Roberts (28)

SF: Donte Greene (14), Nicholas Batum (21), Bill Walker (31), Omri Caspi (39), Pat Calathes (45), Keith Brumbaugh (undrafted?)

PF: Marreese Speights (23), Jason Thompson (37), Ryan Anderson (36)

FA:

(1) JR Smith (2) Kelenna Azubuike, (3) James Jones or Matt Barnes


Ideally the Spurs can trade/buy for a mid-first rounder (as has been rummored) making my ideal Summer something like this:

Draft:

Mid-1st: Donte Greene

#26: Marreese Speights

#45: Lester Hudson or George Hill

#57: Trade away?

FA:

MLE: JR Smith

Now that is what I call a Summer! Too bad its only going to happen in my dreams.

No Dante! PLZ I beg, no Dante.

[angelbelow]

They would be fools to pass on Joe Alexander if he is still there at 13. He can play both F positions. He and Aldridge would make a very nice starting F tandem. In fact, if Oden comes back healthy.....that starting front line of Oden, Aldridge, and Alexander will be very formidable on the defensive end and very solid on the offensive end.

this is exaclty why we should make a play for outlaw/jamesjones/webster.

[kobyz]

the heat are shoping Haslem, maybe we can get him, we can give the heat our first round draft pick for him!

[Slippy]

A back-up point who can spread the floor is a must . The very reason they brought in Stoudamire mid-way through the season. He was a longshot that didn't work out. Hopefully they can do better in the off-season.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Re-sign Kurt.
Draft Chalmers and a project big.
Sign JR Smith.
Bring Sanikidze over.
Work Mahinmi into the rotation.
Call it an offseason.

[T Park]

Re-sign Kurt.
Draft Chalmers and a project big.
Sign JR Smith.
Bring Sanikidze over.
Work Mahinmi into the rotation.
Call it an offseason.

Im 100% in on that offseason.

[AA2120]

i swear..if we get vuya on our team...id never watch the spurs again...