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    I dunno. Suddenly even more pissy than usual.

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    I like kurt..i think he'll stay for another season..

    Anybody else miss Stephen Jackson??

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    I like kurt..i think he'll stay for another season..

    Anybody else miss Stephen Jackson??
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    Ryan Gomes anyone?

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    lets justbuy out vaughn. his contract is like 1 milllion.

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    I've seen on a few websites that Vaughn has a player option, so he could opt out this Summer.

    With that being said, I think Thomas will stay another year, and we will give Mahinmi a chance.

    I've always said DerMarr Johnson would be a good fit, and I'm confident the Spurs will invite him to summer league and possibly training camp to prove he belongs here.

    Duhon should be available for relatively cheap. He's young, has good range, and can be a pretty solid defensive player. Should Vaughn opt out or we buy him out, we can get Duhon, and draft another PG. we have 2 second rounders, so one can be on a PG, while we use the first rounder on a wing player.

    and for those who want V-Span (Spanoulis) as a Spurs, you must remember that he didn't want to be in the NBA anymore, much less the Spurs, so that's why we didn't keep him when we got him in the Scola trade. He went back home to be with family, and I don't get why people think he would want to come over now.

    Our offseason shouldn't be too crazy, and too many people are freaking out. If our FO know's what's good for the team, they'll let Horry walk, let Finley walk, and replace them with Mahinmi and DerMarr (or a FA like Pietrus or Azibuke). Damon will be gone, so we bring in Duhon, and that's already a pretty different lineup from this season, and a better lineup. No need for huge changes.

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    I think its going to take more than DerMarr Johnson... hes a shooter, more so than a scorer. I think JR Smith fits the bill, i would be happy with Azunuike.

    I agree Horry and Fin must go.

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    Of course it would take more than Johnson. We can sign Johnson for the minimum, and then use part of the MLE or the full MLE for a Pietrus or Azibuke type player.

    Yeah, JR Smith might fit the bill, but his at ude is a problem, and since he went to Denver, he's turned into the kind of guy I wouldn't want on a Spurs team.

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    I'd by far want JR Smith over DerMarr Johnson, and I'm no big fan of Smith. Johnson hasn't the at ude or skill set to be an NBA player (this, as a former #5 pick), while Smith at least has one tremendous skill plus athleticism.

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    Yeah, JR Smith might fit the bill, but his at ude is a problem, and since he went to Denver, he's turned into the kind of guy I wouldn't want on a Spurs team.
    The plus side there is that Pop tends to be brutally honest with any potential imports. So - if he were to sign with the Spurs - that would indicative that he knows what he is getting in to and welcomes it, which would be a plus for him from an at ude/character standpoint.

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    If anyone is a real spurs fan, than you will not want the spurs to sign Kwame brown, he is so terrible nobody wants him on their team. He doesn't work hard and he's stupid, he can't learn anything. He has tools physical tools, but has no heart at all, that's why every team he's on want to get rid of him.

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    Kwame Brown

    Dikembe Mutombo

    flip murray

    Matt Barnes

    Darius Washington.

    realistically.

    Low risk high reward because of the salary demands are low.
    No Kwame pls!!!!


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    KT needs to stay imo, you dont want him to go to any other teams. Finley can stay if he can take a pay cut. Try get artest or jamison if possible.

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    You keep Thomas. There are plenty of teams in the league for which he is very useful when playing against. Shaq is still in the West. Especially now with Splitter apparently not coming over.

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    You keep Thomas. There are plenty of teams in the league for which he is very useful when playing against. Shaq is still in the West. Especially now with Splitter apparently not coming over.
    K-T will be there next year i'm sure

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    problem is.....none of those guys wants to come and get yelled at by pop..and now there is no real reason to hop aboard, unless of course we somehow grab 2 of those allstar players...then maybe we can attract players who dont mind getting yelled at...pop has 2 more yrs of yelling at players....he will be missed, he will be not missed....go spurs go
    How come every point you make has to do with your opinion that players "don't want to be yelled at" ??? Sure it's not like the players are asking to be yelled at, but if your under the impression that this only happens on the Spurs you are a moron. The fact is that what makes the Spurs different is that Pop yells at Tim, Tony, and Gino the same as he yells at the team's worst player. If anything this would attract players that are not currently the 1st or 2nd best player on their team b/c I'm sure it gets irritating to watch the better players get preferential treatment based on performance.

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    The FO should proritize these 3:

    1. Emeka Okafor
    2. Antwan Jamison
    3. Elton Brand

    Also let's bring back Darius Washington to be TP's chief backup. Finley, Horry, Vaughn & Bonner must go. We need to get fresh legs for next season.

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    The FO should proritize these 3:

    1. Emeka Okafor
    2. Antwan Jamison
    3. Elton Brand
    yeah. I priorize
    1. Scarlett Johansson
    2. Charlize Theron
    3. Salma Hayek

    but other than you I do hope to not wake up

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    Bring in Mahinmi and Splitter. No Splitter, Diop. If you get rid of Bonner, how about Ryan Bowen for cheap?

    Duncan/Thomas/Mahinmi/Diop/Bonner-Bowen would be very versatile and maybe allow Mahinmi to develop as a scorer while Diop took on a more defensive role.

    Swings:
    One of Azubiuke/Delfino/James Jones plus Mo Evans.

    Evans is underrated - nice midrange game, tries hard, solid professional veteran player. I think he could be great here giving rest to Manu while the younger guy adjusts to the system.

    Manu/Azu/Bowen/Udoka/Evans/Barry would be a very versatile swing rotation, and 5 solid swingmen would allow Barry to play some backup point.

    As for DeMarr, forget it. Guy is extremely slow laterally and a total matador on D.
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    DeMarr Johnson likely blew his chance. He was arrested for DUI here is SA this weekend.

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    Bigs:
    Bring in Mahinmi and Splitter. No Splitter, Diop. If you get rid of Bonner, how about Ryan Bowen for cheap?

    Duncan/Thomas/Mahinmi/Diop/Bonner-Bowen would be very versatile and maybe allow Mahinmi to develop as a scorer while Diop took on a more defensive role.

    Swings:
    One of Azubiuke/Delfino/James Jones plus Mo Evans.

    Evans is underrated - nice midrange game, tries hard, solid professional veteran player. I think he could be great here giving rest to Manu while the younger guy adjusts to the system.

    Manu/Azu/Bowen/Udoka/Evans/Barry would be a very versatile swing rotation, and 5 solid swingmen would allow Barry to play some backup point.

    As for DeMarr, forget it. Guy is extremely slow laterally and a total matador on D.
    agree that Evans is a quite helpful role player. point is, that he would deliver pretty much the same what Ime does. Magic like him a lot and will resign him, so getting him would take an overpriced offer. (like 3years/10 million I guess). and in this case I go with Ime for a much lower price.
    (btw. Spurs were interested in him in 2005, like they also were interested in JJones that summer, but then signed Finley)

    agree about Azubuike, Jones and Delfino as nice and realistic additions.
    Delfino is interesting, because the Raptors will need to trow a ton of money at Calderon (what they will do), so they might not match a decent offer for Delfino. I also like the idea, because out of this 3 Delfino has the most talent on offense IMO and Spurs need scoring.
    I always liked the idea of getting Jones, but this will take the whole MLE (Blazers do like him and will offer a nice contract) and he can't create his own shot. so he will not fill the most urgent need.

    some people will go crazy, when I mention this name, but I'm serious: Ricky Davis.
    considering what we lack, he isn't a bad answer. and he's somehow reformed. he stated some weeks ago, that he will seek a MLE contract. make him the prime scorer of the 2nd unit (Manu back in the S5) and we won't see that many 3rd quarter backfalls and also won't have the problem that he becomes ineffective as the 4th option. I'm well aware about all the red flags about Davis. just looking at his qualities, which are exactly what we need right now.

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    WTF is with the love for Roger friggen Mason. Dude sucks.
    Roger Mason is a solid backup PG. He would be a huge upgrade over Vaughn.

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    Davis may be worth a gamble, but how he and Pop would interact is the big question-mark there. If he has had an epiphany, maybe it would work. Otherwise, it would be a disaster... he'll need to play team defense, remember!

    With Evans, I was only thinking 5mil over 2 years or something like that, but if the Magic like him they will certainly offer more than that. He is more offensive than Udoka and could be a 10-12pt scorer IMHO.

    Delfino intrigues the out of me - he has real potential as a scorer, is only 26, and the idea of he, Manu and Fab playing together sounds great.

    James jones is a shooter more than a scorer, you are right, so he may not be the best fit.
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    Davis may be worth a gamble, but how he and Pop would interact is the big question-mark there. If he has had an epiphany, maybe it would work. Otherwise, it would be a disaster... he'll need to play team defense, remember!

    With Evans, I was only thinking 5mil over 2 years or something like that, but if the Magic like him they will certainly offer more than that. He is more offensive than Udoka and could be a 10-12pt scorer IMHO.

    Delfino intrigues the out of me - he has real potential as a scorer, is only 26, and the idea of he, Manu and Fab playing together sounds great.

    James jones is a shooter more than a scorer, you are right, so he may not be the best fit.
    no, don't get me wrong. JJones would be a perfect fit IMO, but not the one who can solve our scoring problems. in a perfect world we find a way to add either Delfino/Davis AND JJones. Jones can play very good defense (totally underrated in this department), especially when guarding tweener forwards. I can't remebmer him guarding Dirk, but he might be able to do a good job on him, considering Dirk struggled most against smaller but quicker defenders (Posey, Barnes)
    same with Odom/Radmanovic, AK47, Marion etc.
    he might also be able to guard West, considering his ridiculous wingspan.

    I remember Delfino quite well from Europe. he has many flaws, most of them in the area of team play and intangibles, but he really can get hot in the Manu style.
    I was thinking about how to get one via S&T and the other with the MLE, assuming that MLE won't deliver both players. don't have an answer, we just don't have the assets for S&Ts.
    (only chance could be, that a player, who the other team fell in love with, drops to the #26 pick and we can use this as the teaser. I would give the pick for Delfino)

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    JO or Brand or bust. Time for a big move.

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