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    well, I don't know about Hillary, but damn, Billy still got it...

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    What does she have to worry about from that picture?

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    What does she have to worry about from that picture?
    It's going to be non-stop from now until Election day.

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    It's going to be non-stop from now until Election day.
    What?

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    References to her horn dog husband. And, I'm sure he'll provide a wealth of new material.

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    References to her horn dog husband. And, I'm sure he'll provide a wealth of new material.
    Oh, that's all?

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    This clearly impacts Ms. Clinton's qualifications to be President of the United States.

    I'm sure I can find a blog somewhere to tell me why.

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    Some of the comments are hilarious...

    Dr. Fill ‏@Rem870P 6h6 hours ago
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    This clearly impacts Ms. Clinton's qualifications to be President of the United States.

    I'm sure I can find a blog somewhere to tell me why.
    What qualifications?

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    Meh, Dems don't seem to like her anyway

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    Meh, Dems don't seem to like her anyway
    Who's it going to be? Biden? Mic e Obama?

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    Who's it going to be? Biden? Mic e Obama?
    What about that Cherokee woman?

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    What about that Cherokee woman?
    Oh yeah, there's Warren.

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    Having someone who is the brother of one former president and the son of another run against the wife of still another former president would be sweetly illustrative of all sorts of degraded and illusory aspects of American life, from meritocracy to class mobility. That one of those two families exploited its vast wealth to obtain political power, while the other exploited its political power to obtain vast wealth, makes it more illustrative still: of the virtually complete merger between political and economic power, of the fundamentally oligarchical framework that drives American political life.
    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...tive-election/

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    I'm in favor of both parties running a non-boomer outside the current dynasties.

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    who do you like on the GOP side?

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    who do you like on the GOP side?
    Nobody comes to mind for me.

    Again, it will become the lesser of two evils.

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    Jeb would probably be a good candidate for the GOP, he understands what it takes to win the general election. His biggest hurdle is how to survive the primaries.

    The biggest question is whether he's more like his dad (good prez) or his brother (terrible prez).

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    Jeb Bush: The Forest Gump of Financial Improprieties?

    The Financial Times has an unusual story featured prominently today. As Jeb Bush has made a soft launch of his presidential campaign, the pink paper has published a surprisingly long list of financial relationships that do not put the Florida governor in a particularly good light.

    The intriguing part isn’t so much a history of dubious-looking complicated money dealings. It’s the fact that many of them are live. Jeb apparently couldn’t be bothered to clean them up. That strategy didn’t work too well for Mitt Romney, who was forced effectively to admit that his wife Ann Romney’s Olympic horse Rafalca was not a business and hence not a permissible deduction on the Romney tax returns. There was also the consternation over his failure to release five years of tax returns as would have been customary. Some theorized that it was because Romney paid no taxes in those years, but the guess among tax experts was that Romney had declared a formerly secret Swiss bank account under an amnesty program. One of the conditions of getting amnesty was refiling prior year tax returns. Those returns would be “stapled,” as in they would clearly show that the returns had originally been filed not showing the Swiss bank account, and then had been amended to included it.


    The issue revealed by the Romney tax return debate, as well as the consternation about his remarks at a supposedly closed-door speech where he derided the non-income-taxpaying 47% of the US (which includes the unemployed, students and people who make too little income to be subject to income taxes but nevertheless pay FICA and sales taxes) is that even rich Republicans are not immune from scrutiny as to their financial conduct and their implicit or explicit at ude towards the non-wealthy. Despite the stereotype, not all Republican voters are rich. For instance, evangelical Christians are not the power in the party that they once were but are still far more inclined to vote Republican than Democrat.


    So the issue with Jeb isn’t who he’s been in bed with financially, per se, but that he couldn’t be bothered to tidy up his record.


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    Jeb would probably be a good candidate for the GOP, he understands what it takes to win the general election.
    Does he? Jeb Bush last ran for office in 2002. Have politics and the GOP changed since then?

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    Does he? Jeb Bush last ran for office in 2002. Have politics and the GOP changed since then?
    From what I read, he's fully aware he needs to capture some of the center votes, and he has a message (on immigration, education, etc) that I think could garner some votes there.

    The main issue is that those same topics are sensitive when dealing with the base (the primaries, basically).

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    Jeb has a jump on a crappy field, so it's not a stretch to see him get a nomination. Anti-Mexican sentiment might be an issue in the primaries, as was said.

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    From what I read, he's fully aware he needs to capture some of the center votes, and he has a message (on immigration, education, etc) that I think could garner some votes there.

    The main issue is that those same topics are sensitive when dealing with the base (the primaries, basically).
    Jeb would probably pick up quite a few votes in the center with some of his policies, but I can't imagine him winning any debates on a national stage.

    Then again, I would have thought that impossible of Romney as well, but he was able to bully and lie his way into a "W" in the first one.

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    From what I read, he's fully aware he needs to capture some of the center votes, and he has a message (on immigration, education, etc) that I think could garner some votes there.

    The main issue is that those same topics are sensitive when dealing with the base (the primaries, basically).
    He faces the same predicament as Romney. To win the primaries, he has to run far to his own right, to his ultimate detriment in the general election.

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