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Jesus has a lot of churches. The Eagles sold a lot of records.
How sad is it to watch these pitiful atheists trying their hardest to justify their stupidity, hahahahaha!!!!!!! The with those 10 billion churchs out there, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus has a lot of churches. The Eagles sold a lot of records.
There are more muslims than christians. So islam is better because it's more popular.
That's it.
Islam wins.
You sure about that?
You quoted Avante and said this was "Christian dogma".
And then when I disputed it you gave me this "generalized" definition of "dogma", but that is much different than Christian dogma as you shall see.
First off your definition applies to all religions, not just Christianity.
But it is still a good starting place.
There are many "denominations" within the umbrella term of Christianity, the largest of which are: Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, and Protestantism.
Within Protestantism are: Lutherans, Protestants, Methodists, Anglicans, Presbyterians, and Baptists, etc.
Within Baptists are: Disciples of Christ, Churches of Christ, Evangelical Christian Chrs. and others.
And there are what I call the "fringe" Christian denominations such as: Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Pentecostals, nondenominationals, and Holy Rollers, etc.
All of these denominations have their own particular sets of dogma and/or more likely "doctrines containing dogma", and for the most part do not agree with each other except on a few select sets of "commonly shared dogma".
Commonly shared Christian dogma
1. belief in God the Father, the Son of God Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
2. God is eternal, always existed, holy, sinless, and does not lie.
3. the Incarnation - the Son of God became flesh.
4. Baptism - forgiveness of original sin.
5. the Resurrection - the Son of God died for the sins of mankind and came back to life so that we might receive eternal life with the Father.
6. the Ascension - the resurrected Jesus Christ was taken up to heaven in His resurrected body.
7. the Transfiguration -where Jesus Christ is "shown physically" to be the Son of God.
Everything else, including the Bible is hotly contested and thus does not fall under the Common Christian dogma umbrella.
You later quoted something about one of the Ten Commandments, but even those are not all agreed on by all the denominations because Biblical interpretaions vary so widely from sect to sect within Christianity..
For example: Protestants believe as dogma "sola scriptura" - that the Bible is necessary for their salvation and holiness.
Whereas the Anglicans and Methodists believe as dogma "prima scriptura" - where the Bible is "illumined" by tradition, reason, and experience.
Some sects believe in total strict literalism such as many of the Baptists and some of the "fringe" sects mentioned above like the Jehovah Witnesses and Pentecostals, etc., but this is different than "dogma" in that it is "doctrine" which may or may not include dogma, while the Mormons, SDAs, etc. while accepting as dogma the seven mentioned above, also have another "book" they believe as dogma or doctrine along with the bible.
So when you consider all this and attempt to get a "Christian worldview" you must consider more than just one denominations dogmas, because it is inclusive in that it is the framework of ideas, dogmas, creeds, and beliefs that Christians interpret and interact with the world.
Whereas the "Biblical worldview" is much the same with one major difference, it views life through the "lens" of God's Word, the Bible, and that it is inspired, inerrant, and infallible.
Not all the denominations subscribe to this Biblical worldview in the same way or degree.
So Christian dogma, and especially doctrine, is widely varied, hotly contested, interpreted in many different ways, and very little is commonly agreed upon, yet the seven that are agreed on are considered true principals that do not change.
Last edited by xmas1997; 08-21-2014 at 12:17 PM.
Actually rob gave a great real-life example of dogma that ignores the contradictions.
One of the biggest of all: God loves you. He's gonna kill you.
God loves you but he hates sinners. So yes, sinners who do not repent will die.
There you have it.
Jesus makes more money though . . . gets all the chicks.
I am going to go out on a limb here and say I think this refers to keeping our "sentience" after death, those who sin (we all do) but do not repent, will lose their sentience after death, thus no everlasting life. That is my best guess.
But IMHO as long as you do God's work, live your life in a good way and do unto others as you would have them do unto you, even if you do not believe in a God, I think you will also gain everlasting life after death.
Last edited by xmas1997; 08-20-2014 at 06:29 PM.
So...you do believe in gravity right?
I agree with you completely. There are many such books such as the Torah and the Kabala, to name a couple more.
No, that is not what rob said.
Don't speak for him when he already did. That's arrogant.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about!
The world's 20 largest religions and their number of believers are:
Christianity (2.1 billion)
Islam (1.3 billion)
Nonreligious (Secular/Agnostic/Atheist) (1.1 billion)
Hinduism (900 million)
Chinese traditional religion (394 million)
Buddhism 376 million.
Primal-indigenous (300 million)
https://www.google.com/search?q=most...a&channel=fflb
Wrong again, wise acre.
Yeah but at least half of those are like Rob ie not true christians.
Being accurate wasn't really my point. I guarantee you that there are more muslims in christian countries than there are christians in muslim countries.
You kind set yourself up for trolling, don't ya?
It's always a contest with you.
Oh, all pissed off, are we?
Don't get your bowels in an uproar!
We are all free on this message board to make any comment we want, or do you not understand that?
You might want to in the future take your own advice, Mr. hypocrite!
lol ting yourself with emoticons.Oh, all pissed off, are we?
Don't get your bowels in an uproar!
We are all free on this message board to make any comment we want, or do you not understand that?
You might want to in the future take your own advice, Mr. hypocrite!
50% is a conservative estimate.
What a shining example of god's glory you are!Oh, all pissed off, are we?
Don't get your bowels in an uproar!
We are all free on this message board to make any comment we want, or do you not understand that?
You might want to in the future take your own advice, Mr. hypocrite!
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