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    So hes almost lebron durant standard in terms of acting like a crybaby? Or has he surpassed them?
    I thought you cared about winning championships

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    I thought you cared about winning championships
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    So hes almost lebron durant standard in terms of acting like a crybaby? Or has he surpassed them?
    I’m not saying I agree with it. Just speaking the truth bud.....

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    Jacoby has been annoying as with all of his Kawhi stuff. He keeps pushing and pushing his own views (almost feels like desires) that Kawhi is gone etc..

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    Easy for you to say...but when Kawhi feels the PATFO are responsible for where he’s at with the injury why rush back? You already did that and it wasn’t the same.

    That’s where the awkwardness/discomfort is coming from. Kawhi took it out of the Spurs hands and if PATFO try to dictate anything else whether that’s him playing or not he’s gone.

    I honestly don’t think Kawhi cares when he comes back..let’s say last 2 weeks of season...he just wants to play and especially in the playoffs. He’s not busting his balls for nothing...and if Pop takes that away he’s gone. Bye Felicia

    That’s why we heard from Kawhi when Pop pretty much threatened him... I think the message got to Pop and now it’s out of his hands. Kawhi is holding them hostage but tbh he feels PATFO put him in that position to do so..
    Pop's an idiot if he doesn't want him back after a certain point. I don't care if it's one week before the playoffs or even during the playoffs. If he can come back at any point, then he should come back. The Spurs ceiling is much lower without him. Getting him back at any point of the season would be great, especially right before the playoffs or at the start of the playoffs.

    As for Kawhi himself, I still think he's a slow healer. His past injuries have kind of shown me that he takes a long while to heal from ailments that I would consider minor. Either that, or he's overly cautious and doesn't like playing with any bit of discomfort or the slightest amount of pain. I could be wrong in regard to what I posted in that previous sentence, but that is what is seems like to me.
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    this . Man the up. Slowest healer of all-time. Not sure I'd want that on my resume.
    At one point one has to wonder if he’s just not going to get any better.

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    I think Leonard will return on Friday against the Jazz. This is a pure guess. It will be the 10 games left mark and coincides with what Woj said - late March.

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    I think Leonard will return on Friday against the Jazz. This is a pure guess. It will be the 10 games left mark and coincides with what Woj said - late March.
    At this point nothing coincides with what anybody has said.

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    At this point nothing coincides with what anybody has said.
    So true

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    Pop's an idiot if he doesn't want him back after a certain point. I don't care if it's one week before the playoffs or even during the playoffs. If he can comeback at any point, then he should come back. The Spurs ceiling is much lower without him. Getting him back at any point of the season would be great, especially right before the playoffs or at the start of the playoffs.

    As for Kawhi himself, I still think he's a slow healer. His past injuries have kind of shown me that he takes a long while to heal from ailments that I would consider minor. Either that, or he's overly cautious and doesn't like playing with any bit of discomfort or the slightest amount of pain. I could be wrong in regard to what I posted in that previous sentence, but that is what is seems like to me.
    I think Kawhi is one of those guys that has to be 100%. A lot of players go out and play while they feel less than 100%. I think Kawhi needs to start realizing that he’s not gonna feel 100% forever. The only reason I can agree with what he’s doing is because he has a super max on the line.

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    Time to retire old boy

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    It's Kawhigrant Hill

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    I didnt say anywhere they are crazy doctors... where are you getting that from?
    You said "This is all Kiwi at this point" in a sense it's a Kawhi's decision. That's not the truth. Because Pop has said repeatedly that his doctors didn't cleared him.

    It's not "all Kiwi". There are doctors -who saw something in his quad that Spurs medical staff didnt- saying he's not ready yet. They're specialist, not a player's whim.

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    You said "This is all Kiwi at this point" in a sense it's a Kawhi's decision. That's not the truth. Because Pop has said repeatedly that his doctors didn't cleared him.

    It's not "all Kiwi". There are doctors -who saw something in his quad that Spurs medical staff didnt- saying he's not ready yet. They're specialist, not a player's whim.
    This is all Kiwi at this point. If you tell a doctor you have pain he has to take it at face value. And I have never said he's making his pain up. So you are just jumping to conclusions in your quest.

    My concern is really that he has something chronic that really will not get better and that he haS to learn to cope with and deal with the way Timmy learned to cope with a bad knee. And he isn't coping with it well or adapting to the new situation well. I hope that's not it bc he may never be exactly the same player as he was but he could be playing... perhaps not pain free. The point is that Kiwi and his condition are the problem here, not Pop holding him out.... or did you miss that was the point of the comment?

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    I think Leonard will return on Friday against the Jazz. This is a pure guess. It will be the 10 games left mark and coincides with what Woj said - late March.
    I considered that game too when it was leaked that he would allegedly play this season in early March. If he doesn't make it to that game he's very likely not coming back this season. Considering the need to gain conditioning, increase minutes gradually, and observe how feels after a game, b4 increasing intensity and minutes, I thought 10 games left was the least # of games necessary to come back safely. Just an arbitrary number with an emphasis on safety.

    I am starting to consider the possibility this is a chronic thing he has.

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    This is all Kiwi at this point. If you tell a doctor you have pain he has to take it at face value. And I have never said he's making his pain up. So you are just jumping to conclusions in your quest.
    Like pain is the only symptom of a quad injury, right? Like there aren't other things that doctors can see in a quad after the patient was working.

    My concern is really that he has something chronic that really will not get better and that he haS to learn to cope with and deal with the way Timmy learned to cope with a bad knee. And he isn't coping with it well or adapting to the new situation well. I hope that's not it bc he may never be exactly the same player as he was but he could be playing... perhaps not pain free.
    I'm not worried.

    People are saying on ST that Kawhi'll retire this next offseason. A good decision after all. He made some money, enough to have a nice life in SD, and the Spurs will have flexibility to sign a good FA. A win-win situation for both sides.

    If he doesn't retire, people on ST say he'll play in LA. A win-win situation again. Kawhi's quad will be a Lakers issue next season. Also, he doesn't even need to play at MVP level to get ton of media recognition, look at the media saying Kobe was better than Tim, every player in LA is overrated by sports media. He'll get better endorsements deals, and the Spurs will get many good pieces in the trade.

    If he doesn't play in LA, people on ST say he'll be traded in draft night. Can't imagine a better scenario. Kawhi will continue his career on other team that really wants him as franchise player, a team who is willing to give top picks for making him its franchise cornerstone, and the Spurs will get a super talented young player to build around.

    What's the big deal? There is no need to worry. We can see multiple scenarios with a lot of great opportunities for both, the team and the player.

    The point is that Kiwi and his condition are the problem here, not Pop holding him out.... or did you miss that was the point of the comment?
    I don't. But talking about his condition is better than "it's all kiwi "
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    I could similarly use sarcasm on you: "it's not all kiwi."

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    I could similarly use sarcasm on you: "it's not all kiwi."
    There is a big difference between making assumptions about a player in a sense it's his decision not playing, and talking about his doctors and what they say.

    You should avoid drama, girl.

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    There is a big difference between making assumptions about a player in a sense it's his decision not playing, and talking about his doctors and what they say.

    You should avoid drama, girl.
    And you boy" use assumptions and sarcasm to shield you from illogical conclusions.... You are the one who enjoys drama here....
    Kiwi

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    And you boy" use assumptions and sarcasm to shield you from illogical conclusions.... You are the one who enjoys drama here....
    "I'm worried...blah blah blah " It's clear that you hate drama.

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    Nah I made a comment about Kiwi and you made at least two assumptions that were incorrect then used sarcasm and became pendantic.
    Deal with it.
    Or not... K don't give a dam about your need to defend Kiwi even when he's not getting attacked
    But the one who made th is a "drama" and even though up that word was you. Ironic bc I am the girl here.

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    Nah I made a comment about Kiwi and you made at least two assumptions that were incorrect then used sarcasm and became pendantic.
    What? A guy used sarcasm in a sport forum...What horrible person.

    But you should learn to "deal with it" instead of crying about a guy "become pendantic "

    K don't give a dam about your need to defend Kiwi even when he's not getting attacked
    Players and teams don't give a about fans. Nothing new under the sun. I'm starting to think this is your first NBA season.

    But this is not a good excuse to ignore what the doctors of a player say.

    But the one who made th is a "drama" and even though up that word was you. Ironic bc I am the girl here.
    I could say it's not ironic since you're the b*tch here.

    But you know me, I respect women, I care about people, I'm not the type of guy who would say it.
    That's why I didn't replay when you posted about my sour, milk...I could have made many sexist jokes. But again, I'm not that guy.

    I still think you love drama. But it's fine, people aren't perfect.
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    Ok whatever Whi... Look who is allegedaly respectful but calls me , calls me girl in a condescending way and is acting pedantic. Who says I made up a drama when all I said was that this is all Kiwi at this point. You need to reassess what you think you are saying bc the one who is acting like a is ypu, the one who used crying emojis is you...
    I think you are the one making up drama here and getting all emotional. I guess you aren't perfect either...
    . and it's a waste of time to follow you into this kind of twist that veered off subject as soon as you started to get all defensive making pretzel assumptions and arguments. Still value your contributions but this is a waste of time.
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