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    The 2011-12 San Antonio Spurs, while they were ultimately unable to win a championship, go down in history as a memorable bunch. On three separate occasions, they posted double-digit winning streaks – including the franchise record 20-game run that extended into the postseason. Although the Oklahoma City Thunder ended San Antonio's torrid push to win the franchise's fifth title, the Spurs come away from the season having learned a number of lessons.

    First of all, no matter how well a team is playing, the favorites to win the championship are always the teams with the best players. It's no coincidence that LeBron James and Kevin Durant, the two most unstoppable forces in the basketball world today, are battling in the 2012 Finals. Teamwork, creativity, chemistry and cohesion are all fantastic traits; unfortunately for today's Spurs, dominant players at the top of their craft still reign supreme.

    Of the last 32 champions, 27 of those teams featured one of following first ballot Hall of Famers playing at a dominant level: Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Dwyane Wade, Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Moses Malone and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. In other words, after this year's Finals, 84.8 percent of the past 33 championship teams will have featured an all-time great at or near his prime.

    The other five championship teams in the last 33 year also share a specific attribute: they were dominant defensive teams. The 1979 Sonics and the 2008 Celtics were the best defensive teams in their respective leagues, while the three championship Pistons squads (1989, 1990 and 2004) were the third, second and first best on defense, chronologically.

    Thus, the second lesson is that unless you have a transcendent superstar, history tells us your team needs a top three defense to have a legitimate chance to win a championship. For these Spurs, that probably became painfully obvious when the Thunder seemingly scored on every possession in fourth quarters that didn't feature some sort of mistake by Russell Westbrook.

    The 2012 Spurs were a fantastic offensive team with a defense that could generously be described as above average. And while Tony Parker, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili were great at points in time during the regular season and the playoffs, none of the three are at the high level of the aforementioned legends. The Spurs weren't just trying to win a championship, they were attempting to shatter the mold that has held true for more than three decades.

    WHERE TO GO FROM HERE

    A transcendent superstar in peak form isn't galloping into town to the rescue the Spurs anytime soon. There's no prime version of Tim Duncan, David Robinson or George Gervin coming through that door. For at least this summer, there's no draft pick or salary cap space to even dream of such a miracle.

    Without the all-time great, history says to concentrate all efforts on becoming an elite defensive team. Last summer, that's the path I thought the Spurs should take. But after watching the 2012 Spurs, I've actually changed my mind.

    Even though there is no precedence in the last 33 seasons, I believe the Spurs need to continue down their current path. I believe the Spurs need to try to win it all with an offense-first approach.

    Personnel-wise, the Spurs simply don't have any other choice. Parker might have been a top ten defensive point guard in the NBA but he's far from the type of defender you can build around. Father Time has been harsh to Ginobili's D. During the championship years, he was very good at team-defense and at least average individually. Unfortunately, Ginobili is now average at team-defense and usually subpar individually.

    The largest change, however, is Duncan's defense. First of all, his defensive ability has eroded over the years. At 36, he's still capable at defending the low block and challenging shots at the rim. But when it comes to aspects that require mobility -- such as defending pick-and-rolls or switching out on the perimeter -- Duncan is below average.

    Additionally, the current rules in the NBA and the influx of lethal perimeter scorers blessed with otherworldly athleticism make it very difficult to build an elite defense around a center who isn't exceptionally quick. Duncan is a lot of things but no one would describe his quickness as exceptional. In today's NBA, great defenses are built by complementing star perimeter defenders with bigmen who can seamlessly switch onto smaller players when needed. The Spurs, with Duncan in the middle, can't do that. Add Ginobili's declining defense to the fact that Parker doesn't have the size or strength to improve much past his current level at that end and we arrive an unfortunate truth: there's no pathway to make this Spurs team a great defensive unit.

    If the Spurs won't have the transcendent superstar or the elite defense to attempt to win a championship via a traditional route, the Spurs are left with the chore of paving their own road. That road must consist of the best offense in the NBA combined with a defense that, at the very least, is decidedly above average.

    CAN IT BE DONE?

    After San Antonio's demise, a lot of absolute terms were used when describing their downfall. Teams that rely on offense can't win championships, they said. You can't hitch your wagon to a small, playmaking point guards and expect to be taken to the promised land, they said. They said the core was too old, the role players were bound to fail and the style of play wouldn't hold up during the rigors of the NBA playoffs.

    To that I say they were right. Those reasons are all justifiable by the evidence of history. However, I just don't think those declarations are necessarily absolute. Sooner or later, there will come a time when a team shatters the mold on the way to a championship. For proof, just look at the 2012 Spurs. Add a few Ifs to the equation (If multiple role players didn't shrivel under pressure; If Parker caught on fire from the perimeter; If a replacement ref wasn't needed in Game 6 of the WCF; If Duncan and/or Ginobili were able to turn back the clock for two weeks; If the opposition missed a few outside shots) and can anyone absolutely declare that the Spurs had no chance at all to win the championship this season? I don't believe so. Though it was always an uphill battle, a championship was within the realm of possibilities.

    Going into next season, the Spurs will once again begin the campaign as a longshot to win a championship. They will need to mesh perfectly, avoid wear, steer clear of injuries, have the playoff matchups break impeccably in their favor, see a couple other contenders fall off the rail and hope to peak at the right time. Or, to put it more simply, have what happened this year happen again next year, with the added difficultly of Duncan and Ginobili potentially falling off a cliff at any second due to their age.

    As it stands, even saying the Spurs have a 5 percent chance of winning the 2013 championship is optimistic. Their true odds are probably somewhere between 1 and 3 percent.

    REBUILDING IS NOT AN OPTION

    Despite the dim outlook, rebuilding right now makes no sense (well, unless Duncan shocks the sporting world and decides to retire). In the NBA, there are only a handful of teams each season that have a chance to win the championship. Right now, the Spurs are in that conversation -- and that isn't something to be thrown away. One day San Antonio will have to take the first step toward a long and painful rebuild. Thankfully, that time has not arrived.

    Sentimental and business reasons aside (which there are many), basketball remains the biggest reason why the Spurs need to keep trucking. Many teams, particularly small market teams, would love to switch places with the Spurs right now. A legitimate, though slim, shot a championship with a clean salary cap outlook for the eventual rebuilding project? That's nothing to be upset about.

    HOW TO REFUEL

    As previously stated, the Spurs need to try to win with offense. With that in mind, I believe that all moves made during this offseason should be decided by offensive fit. For the Spurs to be the best offensive team in the league, they can't afford to have any weak links. It's true that hypothetically an athletic, shotblocking bigman would be a fit defensively, as would a perimeter stopper. However, unless the hypothetical player is also able to play on the offensive end at a high level, it'd be the wrong move.

    Defensively, I think the Spurs should rely on growth and tweaks. Kawhi Leonard, Danny Green (if re-signed) and Tiago Splitter should be much better defensively in their second full year in the rotation. Finding a backup point guard better than Gary Neal would be difficult not to accomplish. Plus, even veterans like Stephen Jackson and Boris Diaw (again, if re-signed) will be better on that end following a training camp.

    I don't believe that wholesale changes are needed at this point. Instead, the Spurs should build off of this season's success and hope beyond hope that they can become the exception to who usually rules the NBA.
    Last edited by timvp; 06-20-2012 at 10:00 PM.

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    We were all waiting for this one...thanks timvp!

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    Great writing, as always. And I agree with all the points. Spurs are not gonna find another foundation player, and it'll be damn hard to find an athletic big to fill their needs. So they should probably work on continuing to boost their already-top-tier offense.

    If Lorbek and De Colo are indeed signed as the recent reports claim, how well do you think they fit into that plan?

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    Good article TIMVP; and I agree with your points. I just think if we can replace Bonner and Blair with fresh talent Ill be happy. Niether of those guys is terrible but BLair didnt even play in the post season so he is done here and Bonner, well, he has talent that has disappeared every post season. On Green, hes good enough but I would not overpay the guy. I would like to see Diaw and SJ stick around though. Mills is gone and Id keep Neal, he is a good shooter, just a crappy defender and pg. Splitter needs to hit the weight room this off season.

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    I don't think you can use a team that was backdoor swept in the WCF by a team that's probably going to lose in the Finals as proof of your assertion. The "ifs" are many and every team with an illusion of being on the cusp could use those as well.

    Playoffs? Yes.

    Finals? No.

    Remember, you gave them a 2% chance of winning game 4 or something like that.

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    If Lorbek and De Colo are indeed signed as the recent reports claim, how well do you think they fit into that plan?
    I'm working on a Lorbek scouting report in which I'll answer that question in depth. I should be finished in the next day or so.

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    I don't think you can use a team that was backdoor swept in the WCF by a team that's probably going to lose in the Finals as proof of your assertion.
    Manner of demise and what that team went on to accomplish doesn't matter much, IMO. Playoffs are about matchps and getting hot at the right time.

    Besides, that exact same thing happened in 2004 to the Spurs and 2005 wasn't a sad year. I know having a prime Duncan is the huge difference but the circumstances would have been the same for the Spurs if they lost to the Thunder in 7 and the Thunder went on to sweep the Heat.

    Playoffs? Yes.

    Finals? No.

    Remember, you gave them a 2% chance of winning game 4 or something like that.
    I don't see how a conclusion can be reached that the Spurs have absolutely no chance of making it to the Finals. They'll need to be very fortunate again but it's possible.

    And 2% in Game 4?

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    This year was a complete shock. Now that I'm over the WCF loss I still look back and marvel at what they managed to do when no one could have conceived such a thing at the beginning of the year.

    It's now time to do exactly what we did during this season...sit back and enjoy the ride. The championship years are probably over, but we should still get to enjoy quality basketball in SA next season and probably the season after that. They will still win a lot of games and still make the playoffs. Like you said, many teams(and fans of those teams) would love to be in Spur fans shoes.

    This team doesn't need rings. They have them. Let's throw expectations out the window yet again and see what happens. Worked out pretty well last season.

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    ...the favorites to win the championship are always the teams with the best players.
    You can't say this is always true if there is a single exception. The 2004 Pistons come to mind. I'm sure there are other examples (perhaps I'm too young to know of them), but even one exception is enough to break a rule.

    I agree with your general point, though, that the best teams usually have all-time great players, and you provided data that show it.

    As it stands, even saying the Spurs have a 5 percent chance of winning the 2013 championship is optimistic. Their true odds are probably somewhere between 1 and 3 percent.
    Why do you attempt to estimate a priori probabilities? It makes no sense when the phenomenon in question (i.e. winning an NBA title) is so dynamic and dependent on so many variables. The probability could change on a daily basis, so what's the point of declaring it now?

    Maybe you're saying something like the following: If we observe 100 parallel universes in which the San Antonio Spurs exist, they should win the championship in 1 to 3 of them. But even that is meaningless...Should we be celebrating the Spurs winning the 2012 Finals in a parallel universe?

    REBUILDING IS NOT AN OPTION
    Agreed.
    Last edited by Arcadian; 06-20-2012 at 10:40 PM.

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    YOU JUST GOT THE BUISNESS SamoanTD's Avatar
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    When the spurs make the playoffs next year I wan't them to just shit on somebody's parade I hope we get one of the favorites in the playoffs and just shit on them. After that I dont care what happen's lol. But honestly it would be great to see one more banner make it 5 but hey let the dice roll next season and maybe we can catch the NBA slipping one more time.

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    First of all, no matter how well a team is playing, the favorites to win the championship are always the teams with the best players. It's no coincidence that LeBron James and Kevin Durant, the two most unstoppable forces in the basketball world today, are battling in the 2012 Finals. Teamwork, creativity, chemistry and cohesion are all fantastic traits; unfortunately for today's Spurs, dominant players at the top of their craft still reign supreme.
    And yet Israel Gutierrez was castigated in this forum for essentially saying just that.

    Without the all-time great, history says to concentrate all efforts on becoming an elite defensive team. Last summer, that's the path I thought the Spurs should take. But after watching the 2012 Spurs, I've actually changed my mind.

    Even though there is no precedence in the last 33 seasons, I believe the Spurs need to continue down their current path. I believe the Spurs need to try to win it all with an offense-first approach.
    Here, I disagree slightly. I think the Spurs need to get better defensively and not just go for offense. As Pop said during one of his miked time outs during the playoffs, "Don't worry about offense, it will come. Just concentrate on D."

    As it stands, even saying the Spurs have a 5 percent chance of winning the 2013 championship is optimistic. Their true odds are probably somewhere between 1 and 3 percent.
    I'd put it at at least 10%.

    REBUILDING IS NOT AN OPTION

    Despite the dim outlook, rebuilding right now makes no sense (well, unless Duncan shocks the sporting world and decides to retire). In the NBA, there are only a handful of teams each season that have a chance to win the championship. Right now, the Spurs are in that conversation -- and that isn't something to be thrown away. One day San Antonio will have to take the first step toward a long and painful rebuild. Thankfully, that time has not arrived.
    You got that right.

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    I still think this team needs more defense. Not crazy good defense but good enough to contain superstars from not going buzurk on us. But the thing is, Spurs don't have the $$ to obtain well-known perimeter defenders. Which is why i choose to go under the radar

    One of the guys I'm interested in is DeAndre Liggins. He's young, hard nosed, and a solid athlete. Being 6'6 with an almost 7 foot wingspan this guy's defensive potential is much higher than Danny Green's is IMO. the main let down about his skill set is his shooting, yet Spurs always seem to make bad shooters good. BUT The reason why Spurs wouldn't sign is because he's not very disciplined. He always seems to be trying to do too much, not the type of guy to quickly "get over himself".

    Then there's Darius Morris. Most of his game relies on his good BB IQ. great play maker in college but he's just an average defender. When Lakers drafted this guy I thought they had a huge steal, but they didn't play him enough IMO. maybe there's a reason for that. (I didn't watch a ton of laker games so I have no clue how he looked in his 1st season)

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    I agree with most of what you've said, LJ (what a change from last summer, lol), except that you forgot the part about telling Bonner to go play in the middle of I-35.

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    You can't say this is always true if there is a single exception. The 2004 Pistons come to mind. I'm sure there are other examples (perhaps I'm too young to know of them), but even one exception is enough to break a rule.
    The 2003-2004 Pistons were not obvious favorites to win the title going into the season unless I'm misremembering.

    When you don't have an all-NBA first-teamer leading your squad, a lot of things have to go right for you to be able to win out. When you have Tim Duncan or you have Shaq and Kobe you still need some breaks, but not as many of them.

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    The only real personnel change I'd really want is that redheaded choker finding someone else's postseason to ruin.

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    I honestly think Tim should sign a 1 year deal and retire at the end of it. Spurs will have another good reg season and sadly lose in the playoffs again.. Then he can ride off into the sunset.. It's too hard to retire off the year the Spurs just had.. Tim will go 1 more..

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    If Tim was just hungry for another ring he would sign with the Heat and make them a 70 win team.. But he is too loyal


    God bless him...

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    it's crazy to think after all this time that next season will be the last stand. I just can't imagine it going further than that with this group, as much as I'd like it.

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    This year was a complete shock. Now that I'm over the WCF loss I still look back and marvel at what they managed to do when no one could have conceived such a thing at the beginning of the year.

    It's now time to do exactly what we did during this season...sit back and enjoy the ride. The championship years are probably over, but we should still get to enjoy quality basketball in SA next season and probably the season after that. They will still win a lot of games and still make the playoffs. Like you said, many teams(and fans of those teams) would love to be in Spur fans shoes.

    This team doesn't need rings. They have them. Let's throw expectations out the window yet again and see what happens. Worked out pretty well last season.
    this basically. I'm not mad they might not contend. I'm ok with the farewell tour. I'm also eager to see the progression of promising guys like Kawhi and Danny.

    I think the only shot the Spurs might have is improving the defense fairly drastically, and a lot of that will have to happen with important improvement from the younger guys.

    On an ideal world, I would like the team to jettison Bonner and perhaps Blair. I'm fairly happy with the rest of the roster.

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    As great as it has been to see the offense the past few season I much more enjoyed seeing the Spurs play defense again. I think that's the key to the 5th Obrien. You can only do so much to coach offense. Shots will fall or not fall. The Spurs have lead the offensive metrics and it hasn't meant much when other teams score just as easily. We've got to get back to defending.

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    SPURS need to find another assistant coach who can provide better offensive plays than PoP

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    This year was a complete shock. Now that I'm over the WCF loss I still look back and marvel at what they managed to do when no one could have conceived such a thing at the beginning of the year.
    You can try and pretend I didn't say it, but that wouldn't be fair.

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    If you want to focus on offense then you want to trade Splitter. Right?

    I've been begging for more Splitter for awhile but I'm now okay with him being traded. The negative is we will lose more games in the regular season. That's where Splitter value is to this team. He won't be playing next to Duncan he will be playing backup to Duncan. In the playoffs even next year if need Duncan will play 36+ minutes taking away much of his value. I'm prepared sacrifice a player with regular season value in a trade for someone that can help in the playoffs.

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    The main key is the summer is the PF slot (or C spot if you want to keep calling Duncan a PF).

    The type of player Spurs will put at PF will define the whole orientation of the team. Having a PF able to stretch the floor with shooting/passing/driving makes Spurs damn efficient on the offensive end. A PF able to provide some interior defense will make Spur a very good defensive team. How Spurs will fill the PF spot is about 80% of the offseason.

    Aside of that, another obvious issue is the backup PG. A little less obvious issue is I think Spurs really miss a player like George Hill defensively. Parker has been damn great defensively in the playoffs but other guards have been between average and awful. Spurs need to add a good defensive guard this summer. Even a player as limited as Royal Ivey would help a lot Spurs in some matchups.

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    if Lorbek can in fact be brought in - and all signs indicate this - the Hill for Leonard plus Lorbek rights trade will go down as one of the best moves of the last 10 years.

    Spurs FO gambled on this one much more than they usually are willing to do.

    sacrifice a solid young player for a pick is always a gamble. you never know if the player makes the transition and they also couldn't know if Lorbek will ever leave Europe, where he is a star and plays and lives in one of the greatest cities in the whole world.

    they pulled the trigger. and won big time.

    why I write this? one year ago I wouldn't have seen the option of trading a solid rotation player like Splitter for a pick as a possibility. this year, with the experience from the Hill trade, this looks different.

    I think the FO has tasted blood and they do know that this can be a successful strategy to either build for the future and improve the current roster. I do hope the Spurs play this card and wouldn't be disappointed, if this time it doesn't work out as well as last summer. I would be disappointed, if they didn't try.

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    Excellent read.


    Defensively, I think the Spurs should rely on growth and tweaks. Kawhi Leonard, Danny Green (if re-signed) and Tiago Splitter should be much better defensively in their second full year in the rotation
    Fingers crossed Tiago is healthy when pre-season comes around.

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    Good stuff. Kind of depressing that we're talking about needing another PF/C, it's been that way for far too long.

    It'll be interesting to see if the Spurs gamble on old vets again like Kevin Garnett for the PF/C and Jason Kidd as the backup PG. That'd be one hell of a veteran last stand

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    Fuck, Kidd would be awesome as a backup PG here!! Don't get my hopes up mate lol

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    You can try and pretend I didn't say it, but that wouldn't be fair.
    lol RMJ

    Please post me a quote where you said that the Spurs would get rid of RJ for Jack, sign Diaw and go on three double digit win streaks including one with 20 wins that spilled over into the playoffs.

    I'll wait.

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