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MaNuMaNiAc
07-20-2008, 10:05 PM
wow... 46,915 votes and a 9.5 rating?? This IMDB rating is quickly becoming a joke. Stupid fanboys that come from watching the movie and high fiving all the way home to vote a 10/10...

The movie was good, but give me a break! a perfect 10? you HAVE to be a 15 year old comic book fan to honestly believe this movie is the best movie ever made.

RottenTomatoes.com is a far better gauge of movie quality, course they gave it a 94% fresh, so what the hell do I know...

monosylab1k
07-20-2008, 10:09 PM
I thought Batman slowed their fall with his cape.

He did. You gotta pay attention but you'll see his cape "wings" pop out before they hit the cab.

monosylab1k
07-20-2008, 10:10 PM
If Two Face returns, part 3 will be gayer than if Steve Carell really was Riddler.

monosylab1k
07-20-2008, 10:14 PM
Jake Gylenhaal could appear as Robin and start going Brokeback with Heath Ledger's corpse and it still wouldn't be as gay as Two-Face returning.

MaNuMaNiAc
07-20-2008, 10:16 PM
Jake Gylenhaal could appear as Robin and start going Brokeback with Heath Ledger's corpse and it still wouldn't be as gay as Two-Face returning.

:lol

E20
07-20-2008, 10:17 PM
wow... 46,915 votes and a 9.5 rating?? This IMDB rating is quickly becoming a joke. Stupid fanboys that come from watching the movie and high fiving all the way home to vote a 10/10...

The movie was good, but give me a break! a perfect 10? you HAVE to be a 15 year old comic book fan to honestly believe this movie is the best movie ever made.

RottenTomatoes.com is a far better gauge of movie quality, course they gave it a 94% fresh, so what the hell do I know...


Just finished watching Ebert and Roper their exact words:

Best comic adapation of ALL time, one of the best movies I have ever seen.

E20
07-20-2008, 10:20 PM
CF, the reason all the hate for catwoman is because.

A) Michelle Pfiere(sp) sort of fucekd it up
B) Halle Berry fucked it up beyond al extenet.

Plus, having a woman ( no offense) for a villian against batman is sort of a joke in this series, even in the most of comics she was always secondhand to the main male villian. I don't I just can't be like FUC KYEAH PISSING MY PANTS OFF when batman is fighting a woman with cat powers. It reminds me of the old crazy cat ladies lmao basically what i am saying is the appeal wouldn't be there for most people, but who knows unless if they totally fuck get this catwoman part on cue then it will be good, but other than that.............no

lefty
07-20-2008, 10:20 PM
If Two Face returns, part 3 will be gayer than if Steve Carell really was Riddler.

Steve Carell? Would have been godd for Burton's movies, but not for Nolan's.

Nolan won't take him.

I can see as the Riddler :

- The guy who played in American Beauty (the tough dad who shoots himself at the end, I always forget his name; amazing actor)

- Robin Williams

- Willem Dafoe

- Brad Pitt (don't laugh, he is an excellent actor)

- Ed Norton

- Jeff Goldblum

- And this guy:

http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/T-Mac%20Riddler.jpg

Ronaldo McDonald
07-20-2008, 10:22 PM
Jake Gylenhaal could appear as Robin and start going Brokeback with Heath Ledger's corpse and it still wouldn't be as gay as Two-Face returning.

I don;t know why, but I laughed my ass off at this.

monosylab1k
07-20-2008, 10:25 PM
- The guy who played in American Beauty (the tough dad who shoots himself at the end, I always forget his name; amazing actor)

- Robin Williams

- Willem Dafoe

- Brad Pitt (don't laugh, he is an excellent actor)

- Ed Norton

- Jeff Goldblum

I could see Pitt or Norton, but not any of the others. Brad Pitt as Riddler is actually kind of intriguing.

MaNuMaNiAc
07-20-2008, 10:31 PM
Just finished watching Ebert and Roper their exact words:

Best comic adapation of ALL time, one of the best movies I have ever seen.

I don't mind people calling it the best comic adaptation of ALL time. I think that one's a given. In fact, I would also agree its much more than. Its transcends genres in the sense that you don't really have to be a comic book fan to watch it and enjoy it. However, I still don't think you can put this movie even in the top ten all time. Its ridiculous.

Of course, I am talking about my opinion. People are going to think whatever they want.

CuckingFunt
07-20-2008, 10:33 PM
CF, the reason all the hate for catwoman is because.

A) Michelle Pfiere(sp) sort of fucekd it up
B) Halle Berry fucked it up beyond al extenet.

Plus, having a woman ( no offense) for a villian against batman is sort of a joke in this series, even in the most of comics she was always secondhand to the main male villian. I don't I just can't be like FUC KYEAH PISSING MY PANTS OFF when batman is fighting a woman with cat powers. It reminds me of the old crazy cat ladies lmao basically what i am saying is the appeal wouldn't be there for most people, but who knows unless if they totally fuck get this catwoman part on cue then it will be good, but other than that.............no

Firstly, Pfeiffer was great as Catwoman and Selina Kyle.

Secondly, the Halle Berry film was an absolute abortion, but so far removed from the actual Catwoman character that I really don't even consider it to be a part of the Batman universe. It was its own horribly misguided thing.

Lastly, I disagree that having a female villain is less exciting. It changes the dynamic of a fight scene, so it obviously won't have the same physicality as a big ol' punch out, but can create much more tension in other areas of the plot. Furthermore, I think that a female villain (and of the options available, Catwoman is by far the best) would work perfectly in the new Batman franchise. Nolan's approach to the series, especially with The Dark Knight, is very much in tune with the film noir crime films of the 1940s, and everyone knows that noir needs a good femme fatale.

duncan228
07-20-2008, 10:33 PM
- The guy who played in American Beauty (the tough dad who shoots himself at the end, I always forget his name; amazing actor)

Are you talking about Chris Cooper, who played Col. Frank Fitts? Ricky's dad? He shot Lester, (Kevin Spacey), not himself.

mFFL03
07-20-2008, 10:33 PM
I don't mind people calling it the best comic adaptation of ALL time. I think that one's a given. In fact, I would also agree its much more than. Its transcends genres in the sense that you don't really have to be a comic book fan to watch it and enjoy it. However, I still don't think you can put this movie even in the top ten all time. Its ridiculous.

Of course, I am talking about my opinion. People are going to think whatever they want.

why don't you just throw out your top 5 movies...just so we can get a feel of what you think is true greatness...

E20
07-20-2008, 10:37 PM
Firstly, Pfeiffer was great as Catwoman and Selina Kyle.

Secondly, the Halle Berry film was an absolute abortion, but so far removed from the actual Catwoman character that I really don't even consider it to be a part of the Batman universe. It was its own horribly misguided thing.

Lastly, I disagree that having a female villain is less exciting. It changes the dynamic of a fight scene, so it obviously won't have the same physicality as a big ol' punch out, but can create much more tension in other areas of the plot. Furthermore, I think that a female villain (and of the options available, Catwoman is by far the best) would work perfectly in the new Batman franchise. Nolan's approach to the series, especially with The Dark Knight, is very much in tune with the film noir crime films of the 1940s, and everyone knows that noir needs a good femme fatale.
The way catwoman becomes catwoman in batman returns is sort of funny and what killed it for me, she gets pushed off a window and a bunch of cats start biting the shit out oher and she contracts rabies, but ends up with a feline prowess and starts to steal? I was like damn.

Catomwan isn't really that maniacal, I want somebody crazy, is what I am trying to say, also IMO Batman can beat catwoman anytime, but he goes easy on her, because she is a woman, that's what I think (no offense), but who knows. Also I would like someone who fucks with people's heads and the public and is a murderer, Catwoman has been usually a theif, so if she does show up in the next batman she would be a minor secondary villian. Because IMO the premise of the movie is batman trying to catch a theif, would sound.......boring


That's jsut me, I guess we'll disagree, but if Nolan decides it's catwoman I'll wait before I judge, but I won't hold my hopes up. For all I know they could compeletely make up her character from scratch and have her as some homocidal maniac instead of a theif.

mFFL03
07-20-2008, 10:39 PM
penguin. mos def for the next one.

i read a great article somewhere on the best villians and how one storyline portrayed penguin as a rich businessman and an arms dealer.

he could bring in new guns/toys for the crimelords, and the riddler could terrorize gotham unibomber/anthrax style.

MaNuMaNiAc
07-20-2008, 10:39 PM
Firstly, Pfeiffer was great as Catwoman and Selina Kyle.

Secondly, the Halle Berry film was an absolute abortion, but so far removed from the actual Catwoman character that I really don't even consider it to be a part of the Batman universe. It was its own horribly misguided thing.

Lastly, I disagree that having a female villain is less exciting. It changes the dynamic of a fight scene, so it obviously won't have the same physicality as a big ol' punch out, but can create much more tension in other areas of the plot. Furthermore, I think that a female villain (and of the options available, Catwoman is by far the best) would work perfectly in the new Batman franchise. Nolan's approach to the series, especially with The Dark Knight, is very much in tune with the film noir crime films of the 1940s, and everyone knows that noir needs a good femme fatale.

Having said that, every batman villain needs a climatic fight scene with batman himself... and so far, every man vs woman movie fight has just turned out to be gay. If the next villain does end up being cat woman, I don't want this "I don't hit women" bullshit approach at chivalry that Burton had in Batman Returns. Cat Woman better be a she bitch from hell and end up cutting Batman's balls off, or Batman better knock her the fuck out. No middle ground

Trainwreck2100
07-20-2008, 10:41 PM
penguin. mos def for the next one.

i read a great article somewhere on the best villians and how one storyline portrayed penguin as a rich businessman and an arms dealer.

he could bring in new guns/toys for the crimelords, and the riddler could terrorize gotham unibomber/anthrax style.

Sure, Mos def as the penguin could be interesting

E20
07-20-2008, 10:42 PM
Thats exactly what I was thinking. This series isn't the typical "everything is perfect at the end of the movie" hollywood ending.

That way if Bale is done with Batman, they could bring in another actor to be Batman like they did in the comics.

I am hoping it will turn out like this......

lefty
07-20-2008, 10:44 PM
Are you talking about Chris Cooper, who played Col. Frank Fitts? Ricky's dad? He shot Lester, (Kevin Spacey), not himself.

Yeah something like that :D

Trainwreck2100
07-20-2008, 10:44 PM
Was the Scarecrow really necessary, he didn't really do anything a regular henchman could have done?

E20
07-20-2008, 10:46 PM
EDIT: Whoops wrong batman thread LOL

MaNuMaNiAc
07-20-2008, 10:50 PM
why don't you just throw out your top 5 movies...just so we can get a feel of what you think is true greatness...

I wouldn't say I had a definitive top 5, since I think there are quite a few great movies that are deserving. Here are five I think are most definitely truly great

In no particular order

The Godfather
Pulp Fiction
Goodfellas
Shindler's List
The Shawshank Redemption

Again this is just my opinion. You're free to disagree. Just like I'm free to think its ridiculous to think TDK is anything more than just a good movie.

Trainwreck2100
07-20-2008, 10:55 PM
Shawshank's Redemption, how do you redeem a prison?

duncan228
07-20-2008, 10:56 PM
Yeah something like that :D

That was a great performance. I could see him as the Riddler. He does dark well.

MaNuMaNiAc
07-20-2008, 11:02 PM
Shawshank's Redemption, how do you redeem a prison?

:lol

My bad, I wrote the post rather quickly. You're right, its The Shawshank Redemption

tp2021
07-20-2008, 11:11 PM
I know if the joker comes back, it will have to be a whole new actor, and that quite frankly sucks. Ledger did an amazing job with the character.


He did do an amazing job, but if they did another movie with the Joker, and nobody knew that it was a different actor than Heath ledger playing the Joker, and they did a good/similar job, nobody would be any the wiser. But because they know its a different actor, they will nitpick at every conceivable difference they can find. It is a very good character the way that Ledger portrayed him. It got better as it went on. I liked having him laugh as he fell to his presumed demise.

tp2021
07-20-2008, 11:12 PM
I saw Anthony Michael Hall in the credits but I didn't remember seeing him in the movie...

He was the TV reporter.

tp2021
07-20-2008, 11:20 PM
Remember when Batman turned Dent's head, saying that people should remember only his good side?
The memorial service was held not only to honor the good Dent, but also to hide his new identity from everybody.

I think they put Dent in a secret prison, and he will escape in the next Batman

They said that he is the hero gotham needed, and they can't find out what he had done. If he was truly dead, they wouldn't have needed to say that. they said it because he was still alive. You don't create a villlian towards the end of a movie to kill him at the end. besides, after the commish and batman have the discussion, the montage of past and future events plays. the only thing you see concerning where they are after the fall is batman running away. we dont see anything regarding dent, and thats what batman and the commish wanted; for batman to distract gotham from dent and all the things he had done.

mFFL03
07-20-2008, 11:22 PM
haha roeper just threw out the "oscar nod for best film" he contends if "fantasy like lord of the rings or musicals like chicago can get nods, this type of "fantasy" can get a nod"

Trainwreck2100
07-20-2008, 11:28 PM
haha roeper just threw out the "oscar nod for best film" he contends if "fantasy like lord of the rings or musicals like chicago can get nods, this type of "fantasy" can get a nod"

He also called Maggie Gylinthall and A list actress. She might have been 40 years ago when she was in her 20's but not now

MaNuMaNiAc
07-20-2008, 11:29 PM
IMO, unfortunately for Nolan, Ledger died and took the joker with him. Ledger owns the character. Its just so spot on accurate that I can't imagine a better performance from anyone else.

E20
07-20-2008, 11:33 PM
IMO, unfortunately for Nolan, Ledger died and took the joker with him. Ledger owns the character. Its just so spot on accurate that I can't imagine a better performance from anyone else.

I completely agree. This just messes everything up. Nolan can throw out any possibility of a Joker return EVER.

Biggems
07-20-2008, 11:42 PM
what about nicolas cage as the riddler......he is one crazy bastard...he does deranged very very well.

dirk4mvp
07-21-2008, 12:46 AM
Steve Carell? Would have been godd for Burton's movies, but not for Nolan's.

Nolan won't take him.

I can see as the Riddler :

- The guy who played in American Beauty (the tough dad who shoots himself at the end, I always forget his name; amazing actor)

- Robin Williams

- Willem Dafoe

- Brad Pitt (don't laugh, he is an excellent actor)

- Ed Norton

- Jeff Goldblum

- And this guy:

http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/T-Mac%20Riddler.jpg

I like the idea of Pitt as The Riddler better than Depp. We know he can be batshit crazy.

leemajors
07-21-2008, 01:30 AM
deebo ruled.

angelbelow
07-21-2008, 02:39 AM
Jeff Goldblum????

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 07:26 AM
Firstly, Pfeiffer was great as Catwoman and Selina Kyle.

Secondly, the Halle Berry film was an absolute abortion, but so far removed from the actual Catwoman character that I really don't even consider it to be a part of the Batman universe. It was its own horribly misguided thing.

Lastly, I disagree that having a female villain is less exciting. It changes the dynamic of a fight scene, so it obviously won't have the same physicality as a big ol' punch out, but can create much more tension in other areas of the plot. Furthermore, I think that a female villain (and of the options available, Catwoman is by far the best) would work perfectly in the new Batman franchise. Nolan's approach to the series, especially with The Dark Knight, is very much in tune with the film noir crime films of the 1940s, and everyone knows that noir needs a good femme fatale.

A female villain would be lame as hell.
Unless, she's being paired with another villain.

It's completely unrealistic to think a female villain would beat Batman in a fight, unless she outweighs him by 100 lbs and is 3 feet taller than him and faster than cheetah.

Completely unrealistic.

Just look at how bad Deathproof looked because of thinking like that.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 07:28 AM
Jeff Goldlum as Edward Nigma is interesting.

But, I think Nolan will surprise us with the next villain.

Oh, and Dent is dead.

florige
07-21-2008, 07:47 AM
A female villain would be lame as hell.
Unless, she's being paired with another villain.

It's completely unrealistic to think a female villain would beat Batman in a fight, unless she outweighs him by 100 lbs and is 3 feet taller than him and faster than cheetah.

Completely unrealistic.

Just look at how bad Deathproof looked because of thinking like that.



What about Lucy Lawless as a female villian, or Cheetara from the Thundercats?

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 07:54 AM
What about Lucy Lawless as a female villian, or Cheetara from the Thundercats?

Neither one of them.

Completely unrealistic.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 08:01 AM
This reminds me.

I was watching the latest Die Hard movie, at the behest of a friend and against my will, and there was this one scene where Bruce Willis has to fight this hot Asian chick (Maggie Q, I think).

Anyway, she's starts going all Kung-fu and what not on him and she basically kicks his ass. But, then he get's off the floor and says "enough with this Kung-fu bullshit" and he bull-rushes her and tackles her to the floor and starts beating the shit out of her.

He punches her face like 15 times and he leaves her lying on the ground.

Anyway, later on she just gets up and has no evidence of facial damage.

Ridiculous.

And, he also rams a truck up against her legs and a wall, but she can still walk and kick ass by some miracle of god.

Whatever.

florige
07-21-2008, 08:05 AM
This reminds me.

I was watching the latest Die Hard movie, at the behest of a friend and against my will, and there was this one scene where Bruce Willis has to fight this hot Asian chick (Maggie Q, I think).

Anyway, she's starts going all Kung-fu and what not on him and she basically kicks his ass. But, then he get's off the floor and says "enough with this Kung-fu bullshit" and he bull-rushes her and tackles her to the floor and starts beating the shit out of her.

He punches her face like 15 times and he leaves her lying on the ground.

Anyway, later on she just gets up and has no evidence of facial damage.

Ridiculous.

And, he also rams a truck up against her legs and a wall, but she can still walk and kick ass by some miracle of god.

Whatever.



I don't remember her walking after he rammed her with the truck.:lol But she still was kicking his ass in the truck when they were fighting in that shaft. Man dude, now you have me here thinking who could be a good female character. I know some are already mentioned, but there are also so major spoilers mentioned too. My dumbass sister already ruined it some for me when she runs in the house last night screaming "I can't believe they killed off my girl Rachel"....:bang:rolleyes

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 08:27 AM
I don't remember her walking after he rammed her with the truck.:lol But she still was kicking his ass in the truck when they were fighting in that shaft. Man dude, now you have me here thinking who could be a good female character. I know some are already mentioned, but there are also so major spoilers mentioned too. My dumbass sister already ruined it some for me when she runs in the house last night screaming "I can't believe they killed off my girl Rachel"....:bang:rolleyes

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

She killed a great moment in the movie for you.

That fucking sucks.

florige
07-21-2008, 08:46 AM
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

She killed a great moment in the movie for you.

That fucking sucks.



I know....:lol Thats why I MUST see it today!!!!

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 09:16 AM
I know....:lol Thats why I MUST see it today!!!!

If you don't, I'm going to post some major spoilers and kill it for you.

ATRAIN
07-21-2008, 09:22 AM
If you don't, I'm going to post some major spoilers and kill it for you.

LOL do it, anyone that comes into a dark knight thread after the movie has been out and hasnt seen it, well thats their own fault.

florige
07-21-2008, 09:25 AM
If you don't, I'm going to post some major spoilers and kill it for you.


LOL do it, anyone that comes into a dark knight thread after the movie has been out and hasnt seen it, well thats their own fault.


It's already spoilers all around this thread. I just browse down and ignore them. I can tell how the post starts off if it has spoilers or not. But A is right, that is your own fault if you want to bitch about it and you are in the TDk thread. Post them PW, I will ignore them. Tomorrow I will be able to join in the discussion fully....

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 09:32 AM
It's already spoilers all around this thread. I just browse down and ignore them. I can tell how the post starts off if it has spoilers or not. But A is right, that is your own fault if you want to bitch about it and you are in the TDk thread. Post them PW, I will ignore them. Tomorrow I will be able to join in the discussion fully....

Batman's mother makes a "special appearance".

It will floor you.

lefty
07-21-2008, 11:50 AM
Batman's mother makes a "special appearance".

It will floor you.

Rachel is not his mom, but his ugly washed up love interest :D

mFFL03
07-21-2008, 01:14 PM
this movie deserves two threads...doesn't it?

E20
07-21-2008, 01:18 PM
this movie deserves two threads...doesn't it?

It's actually deserved like 20, but they are all on the other pages. The Dark Knight has broken records and one of those records is the number of threads dedicated to a particular thing on ST.com(besides the Spurs) and that number is around 30.

mardigan
07-21-2008, 01:39 PM
Oh, and Dent is dead.

Yea, Dent is dead. But not Two-Face.
You guys have to remember, villians always come back in comics, especially Batman comics. It was totally left up to the viewer to decide if he was alive or dead, and imo he is definately alive.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 01:44 PM
Yea, Dent is dead. But not Two-Face.
You guys have to remember, villians always come back in comics, especially Batman comics. It was totally left up to the viewer to decide if he was alive or dead, and imo he is definately alive.

Dent/Two Face is dead.

He's just dead.

He won't come back.

There's no need for Nolan to bring him back.
His storyline is done.

mardigan
07-21-2008, 01:50 PM
There's no need for Nolan to bring him back.
His storyline is done.

Maybe if Ledgar hadnt died I would agree with you. But the fact that he died leaves the franchise without many viable options for a villian that could carry a movie. I think Nolan probably initially planned to kill off Harvey without a doubt in this movie, but Ledgars death probably made him rethink that while editing or whatever. It wasnt 100% that Two-Face was dead. I think Gordan snuck him off to Arkham or some shit like that.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 01:57 PM
Maybe if Ledgar hadnt died I would agree with you. But the fact that he died leaves the franchise without many viable options for a villian that could carry a movie. I think Nolan probably initially planned to kill off Harvey without a doubt in this movie, but Ledgars death probably made him rethink that while editing or whatever. It wasnt 100% that Two-Face was dead. I think Gordan snuck him off to Arkham or some shit like that.

Do you have any idea how many more villains there are for Batman?

Please.

mardigan
07-21-2008, 01:59 PM
Do you have any idea how many more villains there are for Batman?

Please.

Yea, I also know that Nolan has already stated he would only use realistic enemies in his Batman movies. That takes like more than half of the villians Batman has out of the picture. Do you realize that this is a comic book movie? No one stays dead in comics.

E20
07-21-2008, 02:06 PM
Yea, I also know that Nolan has already stated he would only use realistic enemies in his Batman movies. That takes like more than half of the villians Batman has out of the picture. Do you realize that this is a comic book movie? No one stays dead in comics.
I don't think it's half, more like 1/4 LMAO.

Nolan used Ra's Al Ghul and he was as unrealistic as they were going to get, but he altered his backstory a lot.

Killer Crock
Clayface
Mr. Freeze
Poison Ivy
Man Bat
The Penguin (To an extent, I mean he was just born deformed)

Those are all the unrealistic ones I can think of right now.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 02:10 PM
Yea, I also know that Nolan has already stated he would only use realistic enemies in his Batman movies. That takes like more than half of the villians Batman has out of the picture. Do you realize that this is a comic book movie? No one stays dead in comics.

So, you say he wants a realistic villian but then you say that it's a comic book movie and that no one stays dead?

It's a bit of a contradiction.

But, anyways, he can make a realistic villain out of the Riddler, Bane, Black Mask, or Hideto Katsu.

Shit, you could even throw in Lex Luthor and finally have Batman and Superman team up.

They've been planning a movie with those two for years now.

Anyway, Two Face is dead.
He's not needed anymore.

So, get over that.

E20
07-21-2008, 02:12 PM
From what I have read Nolan and Bale are against any form of superhero tagging that involves the current batman character that is portrayed by bale and if some sort of JLA or crossover occurs by DC bale and nolan will bail out the batman franchise.

mardigan
07-21-2008, 02:13 PM
I don't think it's half, more like 1/4 LMAO.

Nolan used Ra's Al Ghul and he was as unrealistic as they were going to get, but he altered his backstory a lot.

Killer Crock
Clayface
Mr. Freeze
Poison Ivy
Man Bat
The Penguin (To an extent, I mean he was just born deformed)

Those are all the unrealistic ones I can think of right now.

A Holiday story line would be the shit.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 02:14 PM
From what I have read Nolan and Bale are against any form of superhero tagging that involves the current batman character that is portrayed by bale and if some sort of JLA or crossover occurs by DC bale and nolan will bail out the batman franchise.

Well, there goes that.

But, the other villains I posted are a possibility.

E20
07-21-2008, 03:42 PM
So we had Batman Begins and the sequel was called The Dark Knight, a nick name for batman.

We have Superman Returns, so will the sequel be called The Man of Steel? The villian should be Braniac.

lefty
07-21-2008, 03:48 PM
So we had Batman Begins and the sequel was called The Dark Knight, a nick name for batman.

We have Superman Returns, so will the sequel be called Man of Steel? The villian should be Braniac.

I know in the 60's they had " Dark Knight Returns " and " Fall of the Dark Knight " (Comics)

mardigan
07-21-2008, 03:49 PM
So we had Batman Begins and the sequel was called The Dark Knight, a nick name for batman.

We have Superman Returns, so will the sequel be called The Man of Steel? The villian should be Braniac.

Yep, Superman Man Of Steel.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770828/

E20
07-21-2008, 03:50 PM
I know in the 60's they had " Dark Knight Returns " and " Fall of the Dark Knight " (Comics)

That's what I want WB to do.
For batman in the third film follow the comic storyline where batman breaks his back against bane and he has to retire for a time. then end the bale batman series.

For superman (alhtough not as good as batman), the third film should have doomsday as the main villian and have superman killed and end it the routh-superman series. Hopefully they can make the 2nd superman film good.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 03:51 PM
So we had Batman Begins and the sequel was called The Dark Knight, a nick name for batman.

We have Superman Returns, so will the sequel be called The Man of Steel? The villian should be Braniac.

As much as I would like to see Supes battle Braniac on the silver screen, I just can't see it done.

It's way to complicated.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 03:53 PM
Yep, Superman Man Of Steel.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770828/

Ignore that.

They're going with a new director and a new screenwriter.

The Scottish dude that wrote the Wanted movie is going to be writing a new Superman script.

They haven't said who the new director is going to be.

E20
07-21-2008, 03:55 PM
As much as I would like to see Supes battle Braniac on the silver screen, I just can't see it done.

It's way to complicated.
Since Superman's villians are mostly all extermely unrealistic I think you have a more lenience in regards to setting up the villians. Also it hints that superman will be fighting something alien in the next film so who knows. As long as they don't use doomsday.


And we might as well start hyping up the next batman movie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_%28film_series%29


Future
Nolan is not committed to another sequel, explaining that he does not normally line up projects after completing a film. Gary Oldman is confident Nolan will return,[25] and Bale said he would return if Nolan did.[26] Oldman hinted in the third film Gordon would have to hunt down Batman.[27] He has also mentioned that the villain of the upcoming film may be The Riddler. [28] Nolan explained that as long as he is directing, he is not including Robin in the franchise because Bale is portraying a "young Batman", which meant "Robin's not for a few films". Nolan jokingly listed Frankie Muniz as a potential choice, if the studio forced him to cast.[29] Bale joked "I'll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work" if Robin is introduced.[30]

In addition, Nolan considered the Penguin difficult to portray on film, explaining, "There are certain characters that are easier to mesh with the more real take on Batman we're doing. The Penguin would be tricky."[31] Christina Ricci, Sarah Michelle Gellar and Kate Beckinsale have shown interest in playing Catwoman,[32][33] while David Tennant wishes to play the Riddler.[34] Prior to the release of The Dark Knight in 2008, David Goyer ruled out using the Penguin or Catwoman as a villain in a future film, prefering to use antagonists from the comic that had not yet been portrayed on the big screen.[35] After Heath Ledger's death in January 2008, it is unknown whether the Joker will return for a third film, be recast, or retired out of respect for Ledger.

lefty
07-21-2008, 03:55 PM
That's what I want WB to do.
For batman in the third film follow the comic storyline where batman breaks his back against bane and he has to retire for a time. then end the bale batman series.

For superman (alhtough not as good as batman), the third film should have doomsday as the main villian and have superman killed and end it the routh-superman series. Hopefully they can make the 2nd superman film good.

Or maybe a movie involving both Batman and Superman?

I know Lex Luthor was involved with the Joker at one point (I'm not kidding by the way)

CuckingFunt
07-21-2008, 03:57 PM
Future
Nolan is not committed to another sequel, explaining that he does not normally line up projects after completing a film. Gary Oldman is confident Nolan will return,[25] and Bale said he would return if Nolan did.[26] Oldman hinted in the third film Gordon would have to hunt down Batman.[27] He has also mentioned that the villain of the upcoming film may be The Riddler. [28] Nolan explained that as long as he is directing, he is not including Robin in the franchise because Bale is portraying a "young Batman", which meant "Robin's not for a few films". Nolan jokingly listed Frankie Muniz as a potential choice, if the studio forced him to cast.[29] Bale joked "I'll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work" if Robin is introduced.[30]

In addition, Nolan considered the Penguin difficult to portray on film, explaining, "There are certain characters that are easier to mesh with the more real take on Batman we're doing. The Penguin would be tricky."[31] Christina Ricci, Sarah Michelle Gellar and Kate Beckinsale have shown interest in playing Catwoman,[32][33] while David Tennant wishes to play the Riddler.[34] Prior to the release of The Dark Knight in 2008, David Goyer ruled out using the Penguin or Catwoman as a villain in a future film, prefering to use antagonists from the comic that had not yet been portrayed on the big screen.[35] After Heath Ledger's death in January 2008, it is unknown whether the Joker will return for a third film, be recast, or retired out of respect for Ledger.

Kate Beckinsale as Catwoman?

Make it so. Please, someone, make it so.

mardigan
07-21-2008, 04:03 PM
Ignore that.

They're going with a new director and a new screenwriter.

The Scottish dude that wrote the Wanted movie is going to be writing a new Superman script.

They haven't said who the new director is going to be.

Link? Because all I have read is that Singer is under contract. But I did read that they brought in new writers, they just havent said who they are. Not disagreeing, just curious, because I really liked the last Superman movie, even though Ive never even liked Supes.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 04:40 PM
Link? Because all I have read is that Singer is under contract. But I did read that they brought in new writers, they just havent said who they are. Not disagreeing, just curious, because I really liked the last Superman movie, even though Ive never even liked Supes.

I'll try and find it for you.

I'm at work, so my surfing is limited.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 04:40 PM
Since Superman's villians are mostly all extermely unrealistic I think you have a more lenience in regards to setting up the villians. Also it hints that superman will be fighting something alien in the next film so who knows. As long as they don't use doomsday.


And we might as well start hyping up the next batman movie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_%28film_series%29



Dude!!!

Tennant as The Riddler would kick all sorts of ass.
He's got that mad look to his eyes.

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 04:56 PM
Link? Because all I have read is that Singer is under contract. But I did read that they brought in new writers, they just havent said who they are. Not disagreeing, just curious, because I really liked the last Superman movie, even though Ive never even liked Supes.

I found this one.

It's still in the rumor phase, though:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37402

TheSanityAnnex
07-21-2008, 04:57 PM
I'm at work, so my surfing is limited.
:lmao @ 30 posts a day being limited surfing at work. :lmao

peewee's lovechild
07-21-2008, 05:00 PM
:lmao @ 30 posts a day being limited surfing at work. :lmao

30 posts in 8 hours that take less than 10 seconds to type?

What's your point?

tp2021
07-21-2008, 05:12 PM
Kate Beckinsale as Catwoman?

Make it so. Please, someone, make it so.

+1000000000000000000
:wow

MaNuMaNiAc
07-21-2008, 05:47 PM
30 posts in 8 hours that take less than 10 seconds to type?

What's your point?

That explains a lot :lol

T Park
07-22-2008, 12:47 AM
All I can say is.

Wow. Amazing.

I'm torn on whether to bring back Joker or retire.

Some of me says the writing is what helped, but the acting helped as well.


The other bad guys can be done, but I'd like to keep it as close to the originals as possible.

The Riddler next would be great.

Two Face needs to be in the next one. Eckhart was AWESOME and NEEDS to be brought back as Dent.

Mister Sinister
07-22-2008, 01:25 AM
I want to see Ra's come back. I mean, an explosion? Bitch, please.

florige
07-22-2008, 07:38 AM
All I can say is.

Wow. Amazing.

I'm torn on whether to bring back Joker or retire.

Some of me says the writing is what helped, but the acting helped as well.


The other bad guys can be done, but I'd like to keep it as close to the originals as possible.

The Riddler next would be great.

Two Face needs to be in the next one. Eckhart was AWESOME and NEEDS to be brought back as Dent.




Not to mention that eary background sound that came on everytime the Joker got face time. It was a well written,and well directed film....
I've been an Eckhart fan ever since he played in Suspect Zero. I would totally be for bringing him back.

leemajors
07-22-2008, 07:55 AM
I want to see Ra's come back. I mean, an explosion? Bitch, please.

there's dead, and there's comic book dead.

Biggems
07-22-2008, 08:17 AM
i totally agree, Kate Beckinsale would make an absolutely wonderful choice as catwoman.....more of kate in leather is always a good thing....

I also like Jessica Biel for the role.....after stealth, texas chainsaw massacre, and blade 3, she has shown me she can get down and dirty and hold her own with the physical aspects of the role....and she is one of the hottest women in hollywood.

mFFL03
07-22-2008, 08:32 AM
I want to see Ra's come back. I mean, an explosion? Bitch, please.


hmmm, which explosion are you referring to?

Opinionater
07-22-2008, 08:49 AM
IMHO, it was a great movie, but I think Batman Begins has better rewatchability. There wasn't enough time spent on the psyche of Bruce Wayne.

angelbelow
07-22-2008, 02:59 PM
everyone is talking about riddler, is he officially the next villian?

Ronaldo McDonald
07-22-2008, 03:15 PM
All I can say is.

Wow. Amazing.

I'm torn on whether to bring back Joker or retire.

Some of me says the writing is what helped, but the acting helped as well.


The other bad guys can be done, but I'd like to keep it as close to the originals as possible.

The Riddler next would be great.

Two Face needs to be in the next one. Eckhart was AWESOME and NEEDS to be brought back as Dent.

thanks for the spoiler alert, man.

JoeChalupa
07-22-2008, 03:48 PM
I've heard so much talk about this movie that I'm pretty sure it will never live up to all the hype.

Kermit
07-22-2008, 04:25 PM
You know what Nolan should do? Walk away. Make this the last Batman you will make. You're not going to do any better. Sure, there's hundreds of millions of dollars to be made, but it's going to suck. There's no possible way you can top this. Your lead is dead. No one is going to come close to replacing him as the Joker, or come as close to his performance in this as any other villain. Warner Brothers is going to fuck this up anyway, so leave. Go make some more insanely creative movies with your brother, but leave the Batman franchise alone.

Mister Sinister
07-22-2008, 04:48 PM
there's dead, and there's comic book dead.
And then there's Ra's al Ghul.

tp2021
07-22-2008, 05:49 PM
He did do an amazing job, but if they did another movie with the Joker, and nobody knew that it was a different actor than Heath ledger playing the Joker, and they did a good/similar job, nobody would be any the wiser. But because they know its a different actor, they will nitpick at every conceivable difference they can find.

mFFL03
07-22-2008, 07:09 PM
You know what Nolan should do? Walk away. Make this the last Batman you will make. You're not going to do any better. Sure, there's hundreds of millions of dollars to be made, but it's going to suck. There's no possible way you can top this. Your lead is dead. No one is going to come close to replacing him as the Joker, or come as close to his performance in this as any other villain. Warner Brothers is going to fuck this up anyway, so leave. Go make some more insanely creative movies with your brother, but leave the Batman franchise alone.


ok. just get goyer, j nolan and c nolan to work together on a story. their dialouge and acting direction could use help, but I've always loved their stories.

E20
07-22-2008, 10:50 PM
AVGN has a batman game review as well his last part for his batahon speciacl check his myspace for the links.

SequSpur
07-22-2008, 11:24 PM
Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude that fukin movie was....................

BAD AZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GuerillaBlack
07-22-2008, 11:25 PM
I'm late to this party at SpursTalk, but saw the movie twice! I want to see it again, but this time in IMAX.

It delivers all over. The story, characters, everything. Heath Ledger shines bright. That scene when he is in the police car and their is no music is just beyond epic. Very thrilling.

It is still #1 on IMDB, and made $24 million at the box office yesterday after its record breaking weekend. The Dark Knight for the win!

As for a new villain, I really would like to see Riddler and Penguin. Nolan can really make the Penguin work in his Batman universe. Penguin is the second creepiest character after Joker I think.

marini martini
07-22-2008, 11:31 PM
Heyyyyyyyyheyyyyyyyyyy Good byyy!

GuerillaBlack
07-22-2008, 11:34 PM
Heyyyyyyyyheyyyyyyyyyy Good byyy!

What?

marini martini
07-22-2008, 11:47 PM
Wtf?????????

Viva Las Espuelas
07-22-2008, 11:52 PM
hey guys, when's the next dungeons and dragons gtg?

E20
07-23-2008, 12:06 AM
Over at Tim's house on Friday night.

mFFL03
07-23-2008, 09:37 PM
this thread FTW

Booharv
07-24-2008, 12:33 AM
And the Spiderman movies suck.

Really? 2 sucked?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spiderman_2/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316654/

For real?

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
07-24-2008, 12:37 AM
Really? 2 sucked?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spiderman_2/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316654/

For real?

No 2 was good, but 3 pretty much ruined the whole series for me

Trainwreck2100
07-24-2008, 01:30 AM
3 ruined the series for everybody thanks to that asshole Arad

bugmenot
07-24-2008, 01:36 AM
Real talk..

movie was str8 up dope!

dirk4mvp
07-24-2008, 01:45 AM
different casting for Venom and more screen time for him would have done better

Spurtacus
07-24-2008, 01:52 AM
This film was a masterpiece. Everything was top notch. My only complaint is Maggie Gylenhaal....she just didn't do it for me.