France 82 Belgium 63

[timaios]

France 82 Belgium 63

Tony Parker : 28:34 min 19 pts FG 6/13 (2/5 3pts) FT 5/10 3 ast 4 reb 5 to 2 st

Nando de Colo : 26:45 min 28 pts FG 9/9 (4/4 3pts) FT 6/6 0 ast 4 reb 3 to 0 st :wow:wow:wow

Next games :

September 06 @Kiev : Ukraine - France
September 10 @Istanbul : Turkey - France
September 13 @Charleroi : Belgium - France
September 17 @Mans : France - Ukraine
September 20 @Limoges : France - Turkey

[Bruno]

Parker and De Colo came from the bench.
I guess Gomez (French coach) didn't want to make the game too easy and started scrubs to have a little handicap (Belgium leaded 11-1 after 5min). :downspin:

[Solid D]

Dude, Nando rolled out a perfect game.

[JPB]

De Colo is a stud.

I never really saw him play until tonight and all I have to say is : dayumm !

21 years old and still a big margin of progress. I'm sure TP will speak about him to spurs FO.

he drives, shoot, pass, and seems fearless. I wouldn't compare him to Manu yet even if Nando is copying some og his moves but he's a kid to folllow.

He will be in next year's draft.

[lefty]

Wasn't TP born in Belgium?

[JPB]

Parker and De Colo came from the bench.
I guess Gomez (French coach) didn't want to make the game too easy and started scrubs to have a little handicap (Belgium leaded 11-1 after 5min). :downspin:


When I saw the starting lineup, I was like WTF ?

It was supposed to respect the guys who were there for the beginning of the preparation and not make NBA guys saviors...

5 min into the game 1-11 :lol
TP, De Colo in as... saviors

[JPB]

Wasn't TP born in Belgium?

He was.

His father moved to France very little time after.

[Lady M]

Wasn't TP born in Belgium?

yes born in Bruges but leave after 3 months
like he say no memories :lol
Nando de Colo is small for the NBA
I think he will stay in europe

[JPB]

De Colo had 5 points in the first half, then 15 pts in 5-6 min, in a decisive 3rd.

[JPB]

yes born in Bruges but leave after 3 months
like he say no memories :lol
Nando de Colo is small for the NBA
I think he will stay in europe


De Colo is 6-5 (Don't know if with or without sneakers).
He can play 1 or 2.

[Bruno]

I didn't watch the game.
Did the Parker/De Colo backcourt worked well ?

[Lady M]

I didn't watch the game.
Did the Parker/De Colo backcourt worked well ?

when they came France was 1-11 few minutes later 13-15
good defense and good offense
Diawara was the man in defnse for the 2de quater
Turiaf make a 3 in the last minute like Tim (TP assist)

[timaios]

yes born in Bruges but leave after 3 months
like he say no memories :lol
Nando de Colo is small for the NBA
I think he will stay in europe

In fact : 2 weeks !

[Bruno]

when they came France was 1-11 few minutes later 13-15
good defense and good offense
Diawara was the man in defnse for the 2de quater
Turiaf make a 3 in the last minute like Tim (TP assist)

Thanks for the answer.

France NT have lacked a SG for years. If De Colo can be that guy, it's a great news.

On a side note, Italy is in quite big troubles in its qualifying group.:wow

[timaios]

De Colo is 6-5 (Don't know if with or without sneakers).
He can play 1 or 2.

According to different websites, he is between 1m92 and 1m95.
So between 6-3 and 6-4.

[timvp]

Spurs have lacked a SG for years.What about Manu?

:hat

[Bruno]

^fixed. :p:

Boxscore :
http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.gameID_6330-C-2-1.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2009.roundI D_6326.teamID_.html#{1069DEBF-F6B0-48E8-9680-5C0DE029CF6B}

[timvp]

So what is the deal with these games? Did this game count or is it still exhibition games? How many wins are needed for France to qualify? How many teams qualify? Are these games being shown online?

This crap sucks but at least Spurs fans should know WTF is going on . . .

[Bruno]

So what is the deal with these games? Did this game count or is it still exhibition games? How many wins are needed for France to qualify? How many teams qualify? Are these games being shown online?

This crap sucks but at least Spurs fans should know WTF is going on . . .

http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8jInH7Qj1EsyH5rjn2.pageID_XoMVvcZ8G5s9M7-Fk9ab-3.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2009.roundI D_6326.html

the game against Belgium was the first to count and games aren't shown online.

[pad300]

Nando de Colo
From Draftexpress:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nando-De-Colo-5087/

1) He'll be forced into next years draft by the upper age limit
2) He's currently ranked as a high 2nd round prospect, primarily due to bad defense. If that is fixed, he might go 1st round. It is unlikely because the bad defense appears to be the result of bad lateral quickness/foot speed/athleticism...Which would be even more a problem at the NBA level.

[Sissiborgo]

Parker is the best..!

[JPB]

I didn't watch the game.
Did the Parker/De Colo backcourt worked well ?

Definitely !

They're very complementary and De Colo can play the point too.

De colo took care of the game in the third even when TP was on the court.
TP didn't try to force things until the end of the game when he pretty sealed the victory by penetrating and provoking fouls.

Tony struggled a bit against Belgium's small PG in the first half but took the advantage on a three just before the half break.

At his level (no way I want to compare those 2) I would say Nando is a french "Manu" in what he brings to the team and makes things happen. He sees the game very well too.

I know it's just one game but I think France has its backcourt for the next 4 years in those 2.

De Colo boomed at a relatively late age. That's why I think he really has much room to improve.

For what it's worth Bruno :

Julian said at half time that Tony and Boris talked to him to try to convince him to come back to the NT because they need a veteran big like him. So it's possible he'll play again in the future.

[JPB]

Nando de Colo
From Draftexpress:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nando-De-Colo-5087/

1) He'll be forced into next years draft by the upper age limit
2) He's currently ranked as a high 2nd round prospect, primarily due to bad defense. If that is fixed, he might go 1st round. It is unlikely because the bad defense appears to be the result of bad lateral quickness/foot speed/athleticism...Which would be even more a problem at the NBA level.

he's progressing so fast that this profile is already out of date. He knows he has to work on D and he's obviously doing it. He looked pretty good to me vs Belgium.

[JPB]

According to different websites, he is between 1m92 and 1m95.
So between 6-3 and 6-4.

Ok, so that would be 6-5 with sneakers I guess.

[JPB]

Tony surprised and pissed at the french coach for not starting him, De Colo and Diawara at the press conference. :lol

And the coach responding to him :lol

Great atmosphere !
And France won by 20 :lol

[Bruno]

At his level (no way I want to compare those 2) I would say Nando is a french "Manu" in what he brings to the team and makes things happen. He sees the game very well too.

I know it's just one game but I think France has its backcourt for the next 4 years in those 2.

Let's hope so.
If De Colo continues to play well, France will be one low post scorer away to be a very dangerous team. The best case for us (Spurs' fans) will be that Mahinmi is that guy.




Julian said at half time that Tony and Boris talked to him to try to convince him to come back to the NT because they need a veteran big like him. So it's possible he'll play again in the future.

I read it in today's newspaper and it sucks.
First, Julian is a quite limited player. He hasn't the level to contribute at the top international level.
Second, he is too old. he will be 38 years old for the 2012 Olympics. If the goal is to build a team like 2012, you can't take players that old.

I think that Florent Pietrus could have the role of this vet big. He has now a lot of FIBA BB experience under his wings. When you have Pietrus, Diaw, Turiaf, Noah, Petro, Mahinmi... , I just don't see the point to bring back Julian.

[JPB]

Let's hope so.
If De Colo continues to play well, France will be one low post scorer away to be a very dangerous team. The best case for us (Spurs' fans) will be that Mahinmi is that guy.

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I read it in today's newspaper and it sucks.
First, Julian is a quite limited player. He hasn't the level to contribute at the top international level.
Second, he is too old. he will be 38 years old for the 2012 Olympics. If the goal is to build a team like 2012, you can't take players that old.

I think that Florent Pietrus could have the role of this vet big. He has now a lot of FIBA BB experience under his wings. When you have Pietrus, Diaw, Turiaf, Noah, Petro, Mahinmi... , I just don't see the point to bring back Julian.

I agree that now France need a reliable post scorer. Maybe TP and Boris wanted julian to help this summer and for the next euro in 2009 (he'll be 35 then, which would be ok).

On all the players you named (Pietrus, Diaw, Turiaf, Noah, Petro, Mahinmi)
unfortunately, only Diaw has a decent offensive game today and he's not a real inside guy. (I'd add Badiane also).

Turiaf is an enforcer and a strong player but isn't really skilled either.

I hope Ian will developp his game but right now, the skillest (not sure of the word) guy I see is Ajinca but he's only 19.

[JPB]

Let's hope so.

I read it in today's newspaper and it sucks.
First, Julian is a quite limited player. He hasn't the level to contribute at the top international level.

I have to disagree here.
He was really valuable for the french NT during several campains and has decent offensive moves.

You always need an experienced big like him, who knows how to grab an important rebound here or there, who knows all the tricks and is respected by the refs in Europe. Every other team has that kind of player in Europe.


you can't only rely on the other guys who are really young and still raw when things start to get close and tense. You can always use proven big to calm things down, a guy who has been here before and doesn't panick.

[Alain]

I'm sure Jim Bilba is still in great shape!
:p:

[romain.star]

I have to disagree here.
He was really valuable for the french NT during several campains and has decent offensive moves.

You always need an experienced big like him, who knows how to grab an important rebound here or there, who knows all the tricks and is respected by the refs in Europe. Every other team has that kind of player in Europe.


you can't only rely on the other guys who are really young and still raw when things start to get close and tense. You can always use proven big to calm things down, a guy who has been here before and doesn't panick.

As far as I remember, Julian was quite valuable during the 2000 Olympics ride wasn't he?

[JPB]

French players voting to choose 3 of the 5 starters and the coach deciding for the other 2, for today's game vs Ukraine. :lol

They chose TP, Turiaf and De Colo.

French NT's organisation is more outlandish every day. :lol

[mathbzh]

The sad thing is that Julian is still one of the best French center... and he is not that good anymore.

[mathbzh]

French players voting to choose 3 of the 5 starters and the coach deciding for the other 2, for today's game vs Ukraine. :lol

They chose TP, Turiaf and De Colo.

French NT's organisation is more outlandish every day. :lol

:depressed

[mathbzh]

On all the players you named (Pietrus, Diaw, Turiaf, Noah, Petro, Mahinmi)
unfortunately, only Diaw has a decent offensive game today and he's not a real inside guy. (I'd add Badiane also).


Traore has some decent offensive moves and could have help IMO (at least for the qualifications with all these players not playing).

[Bruno]

French players voting to choose 3 of the 5 starters and the coach deciding for the other 2, for today's game vs Ukraine. :lol

They chose TP, Turiaf and De Colo.

French NT's organisation is more outlandish every day. :lol

I put the blame on Parker. He whined like a little girl after the game against Belgium while he should have STFU.

Against a weak opponent like Belgium, it wasn't a that bad idea to give the starting spots to players that deserved it the most by being there since the start of the training camp. They sucked more they should and the coach reacted by starting other players (including TP) in the second half.

If Parker had half a brain on this one, he would have understood that without saying something, he would have started for next games. He has decided to whine in the media about that and put the coach in a bad situation.

It's a big :td for Parker on this one. True lack of respect for the coach and for his teammates.

[Bruno]

On all the players you named (Pietrus, Diaw, Turiaf, Noah, Petro, Mahinmi)
unfortunately, only Diaw has a decent offensive game today and he's not a real inside guy. (I'd add Badiane also).


Mahinmi has developed a very good inside game this year in D League. We will see what he will do in NBA but he has for sure some nice offensive moves.
He is the closest thing to the low post scorer needed by the NT.

[Magic_Johnson]

I put the blame on Parker. He whined like a little girl after the game against Belgium while he should have STFU.

Against a weak opponent like Belgium, it wasn't a that bad idea to give the starting spots to players that deserved it the most by being there since the start of the training camp. They sucked more they should and the coach reacted by starting other players (including TP) in the second half.

If Parker had half a brain on this one, he would have understood that without saying something, he would have started for next games. He has decided to whine in the media about that and put the coach in a bad situation.

It's a big :td for Parker on this one. True lack of respect for the coach and for his teammates.

+1
TP was close to claude bergeaud and i think he is ot very happy with the new coach.

[duncan228]

Parker 'annoyed' by France omission (http://othersports.virginmedia.com/minorsports/news.php?id=23208)

Tony Parker has admitted he was "annoyed" to be left out of France's starting line-up for their opening EuroBasket 2009 qualifier against Belgium.

The San Antonio Spurs guard is easily Les Bleus' most celebrated player but he started on the bench in their 82-63 victory on Wednesday.

With Parker only recently returning to the international fold after a self-imposed exile, coach Michel Gomez placed his trust in the players he has had at his disposal throughout France's warm-up games prior to EuroBasket qualification.

Although he came off the bench to great effect in the comfortable win in Nancy, Parker was left slightly puzzled.

"You can be sure that I didn't understand," said the three-time NBA title-winner. "But I don't want to cause a fuss. We won and that is the most important thing.

"We will see what happens next. But I would be lying if I said I wasn't annoyed by it."

[Brutalis]

When is this crap going to be over??

[E20]

I could make a 'ducks' like comment about TP, but I'll refrain.