MNF: Cowboys Vs. Eagles

[Sense]

Yes guys, let's listen to the smart guys who think this game was lost by the Eagles and not won by the Cowboys...

I don't see how this game was choked at all... if anything this game was in so many ways set up to be choked by the Cowboys.

But then again there has to be someone to blame.

[monosylab1k]

Yes guys, let's listen to the smart guys who think this game was lost by the Eagles and not won by the Cowboys...

I don't see how this game was choked at all... if anything this game was in so many ways set up to be choked by the Cowboys.

But then again there has to be someone to blame.

The Cowboys choked less than the Eagles. Happy?

[Sense]

crying about the refs because they made a correct call? :lmao cowboy fans are full of themselves.

You think that call was correct?


hahahahaha.

[Trainwreck2100]

McNabb and Nowitzki are almost soul mates in different sports. They're both incredibly talented, uniquely skilled, and pretty good leaders. Unfortunately they have really spotty records when it comes to clutch play. Sporadic flashes of brilliance in crunch time, mixed in with an unfortunately large amount of choking.

So who would vince Young be compared to?

[Whisky Dog]

crying about the refs because they made a correct call? :lmao cowboy fans are full of themselves.

If you think that call was correct you need to go to bed before you embarrass yourself any more. Pure and simple.

[monosylab1k]

So who would vince Young be compared to?

There isn't an NBA player that awesome.

[Sense]

If you think that call was correct you need to go to bed before you embarrass yourself any more. Pure and simple.

show that idiot a replay...

I can't believe he just said that.

[StylisticS]

crying about the refs because they made a correct call? :lmao cowboy fans are full of themselves.

How in the fuck was that the correct call? The OFFENSIVE player grabbed the Defensive players jersey while both were making a play for the ball. Henry looked BACK for the ball and had great position but the one that was interfering was the OFFENSIVE player. Clearly you saw replays, right?

[Whisky Dog]

McNabb had about 15 yards of daylight twice on that final drive. Getting a first down with the clock running is better than dancing around for 10 seconds before getting blasted by Ware.

Dallas brought some heat, but they left a lot of holes on the field that McNabb could have taken advantage of.

Yes, but he knew he needed yards to get into the end zone and buying time for a receiver to get open was the way to get them. Only the defense finally covered the hell out of the receivers and let nothing open. Nobody choked.

[samikeyp]

Nobody choked anything. No refs did this or that whole "one team lost the other team didn't win" bullshit. A great game by two really good teams. Just shows how dangerous a healthy McNabb can be. Props to Dallas for overcoming their dumbass mistakes and props to Philly for making Dallas pay for them most of the night. :toast

[dirk4mvp]

I don't see how this game was choked at all... if anything this game was in so many ways set up to be choked by the Cowboys.




Are you saying the eagles didn't choke this game? Like I said, cowboy fans are full of themselves.


also maybe i'm thinkin of somethin else on the pass interference, but i wouldn't put it past some faggot ass cowboy fans to think they never do anything wrong

[jack sommerset]

So who would vince Young be compared to?

John Amaechi

[Sense]

Are you saying the eagles didn't choke this game? Like I said, cowboy fans are full of themselves.


also maybe i'm thinkin of somethin else on the pass interference, but i wouldn't put it past some faggot ass cowboy fans to think they never do anything wrong

It is now obvious that you didn't watch the game.

[dirk4mvp]

It is now obvious that you didn't watch the game.


It's been obvious that you and a large percentage of cowboy fans are blind homers.


So can you tell me how it was the Cowboys awesome D that Mcnabb didn't run for the 1st down when he had about 20 yards of open space in front of him?

[monosylab1k]

Yes, but he knew he needed yards to get into the end zone and buying time for a receiver to get open was the way to get them.

So you're telling me dancing around waiting for someone to get open knowing DeMarcus Ware is on your ass isn't making a bad decision when you've got 15 yards of running space and over a minute on the clock with a timeout?

Sorry but that's flat out shitty decision making by McNabb.

[samikeyp]

It's been obvious that you and a large percentage of cowboy fans are blind homers.

A large percentage of most teams fans are blind homers. :lol

Blaming the refs is weak especially in football. There are things that can be called on almost every play. Do the refs miss calls? Sure but did it affect the outcome of the game? No. Dallas' 11 penalties and two turnovers almost cost them, as did Philly's to's and lack of execution on that last drive.

[monosylab1k]

At that point getting a first down was the right decision. You get the first down and then you have 4 more cracks at chucking it downfield, along with a more fatigued Dallas defense. McNabb's brain froze completely on that last drive.

[Whisky Dog]

It's been obvious that you and a large percentage of cowboy fans are blind homers.


So can you tell me how it was the Cowboys awesome D that Mcnabb didn't run for the 1st down when he had about 20 yards of open space in front of him?

Less than 2 minutes and he needed a touchdown so he was trying to buy time to let a receiver get open for a big play. He forgo a probably 10 to 15 yard scramble in the middle of the field for a big play, but the DEFENSE didnt let anything open up. In hindsight running would have been better, but only because the defense stepped up and took away his receivers. Nobody choked, McNabb played a great game and escaped pressure all night when most other QBs would have been pounded.

[StylisticS]

Are you saying the eagles didn't choke this game? Like I said, cowboy fans are full of themselves.



Explain to me how the Eagles choked more than we won?
We outgained them in total yards
We lost the turnover battle
We had more penalties by far
We out gained them in the air
We didn't have a run game at all until the 3rd quarter

So how did they choke more?

[monosylab1k]

Let's not forget that Philly was damn near about to make it 44-34 until Donovan suddenly forgot how to hand off a football.

[Whisky Dog]

So you're telling me dancing around waiting for someone to get open knowing DeMarcus Ware is on your ass isn't making a bad decision when you've got 15 yards of running space and over a minute on the clock with a timeout?

Sorry but that's flat out shitty decision making by McNabb.

If the cowboys defense would have been weak in the secondary as usual, McNabb buying time and hitting a receiver for a big play would have been a great play by McNabb. He was looking for that and expecting his receivers to get open, the secondary shut that down. Defense finally stepped up big to seal the game.

[monosylab1k]

He was looking for that and expecting his receivers to get open, the secondary shut that down.

That right there condemns McNabb, you never "expect" anything, you take what the defense gives you, you find the weakness in the defense and take advantage of it. You never "expect" something to happen.

The Dallas secondary covered great, and they brought heat on McNabb, I'm not saying they didn't do their jobs. But McNabb didn't take what the defense gave him, he didn't take advantage of the weakness they left in the middle of the field. If he does that, the Eagles have a much better shot than 4th and 17.

[Whisky Dog]

Cowboys spotted eagles 14 pts with turnovers when they had the ball after a defensive stop looking to go up 21-6. The game turned fast at that point, but the cowboys came back to win anyway.

[ducks]

A large percentage of most teams fans are blind homers. :lol

Blaming the refs is weak especially in football. There are things that can be called on almost every play. Do the refs miss calls? Sure but did it affect the outcome of the game? No. Dallas' 11 penalties and two turnovers almost cost them, as did Philly's to's and lack of execution on that last drive.

denver vs chargers yes
this game no

[samikeyp]

denver vs chargers yes
this game no

I was speaking of this game....although I still believe players control their own destinies.

[monosylab1k]

denver vs chargers yes
this game no

die

[Whisky Dog]

That right there condemns McNabb, you never "expect" anything, you take what the defense gives you, you find the weakness in the defense and take advantage of it. You never "expect" something to happen.

The Dallas secondary covered great, and they brought heat on McNabb, I'm not saying they didn't do their jobs. But McNabb didn't take what the defense gave him, he didn't take advantage of the weakness they left in the middle of the field. If he does that, the Eagles have a much better shot than 4th and 17.

Why wouldn't he expect that? His receivers were getting open on his scrambling all game long. The Cowboys just stepped up and covered (after Roy got hurt, coincidence?) when they needed to seal the game.

[Sense]

It's been obvious that you and a large percentage of cowboy fans are blind homers.


So can you tell me how it was the Cowboys awesome D that Mcnabb didn't run for the 1st down when he had about 20 yards of open space in front of him?

So is this how you try to make yourself look better? "Cowboys fans, yeah so full of themselves like always... "

Homer?

Cowboys obviously didn't have awesome D tonight, idiot... but they did make the difference...

Why are you blaming McNabb for a play that wasn't made for him? It was a 4th down moron... and he's not their most explosive player.
How sure are you of that last play? You couldn't even remember the pass interference....

[ducks]

I was speaking of this game....although I still believe players control their own destinies.
I know
refs can decide game
not often however yesterdays' chargers game was an expeption

[samikeyp]

So is this how you try to make yourself look better? "Cowboys fans, yeah so full of themselves like always... "

Homer?

Cowboys obviously didn't have awesome D tonight, idiot... but they did make the difference...

Why are you blaming McNabb for a play that wasn't made for him? It was a 4th down moron... and he's not their most explosive player.
How sure are you of that last play? You couldn't even remember the pass interference....

As a unit, they were not awesome but DeMarcus Ware was. :toast

[Whisky Dog]

On another note, how about Nick Folk? That dude was money.

[monosylab1k]

Why wouldn't he expect that?

Expecting guys to get open and not finding an alternative gave Larry Brown a Super Bowl MVP and made Neil O'Donnell look like an ass in front of the world.

The best I can say for McNabb is at least he didn't just blindly chuck it up there.

But you're right, the Dallas secondary locked up great on that drive.

[samikeyp]

I know
refs can decide game
not often however yesterdays' chargers game was an expeption

I disagree but I understand your point. If I was a Chargers fan, I would be very, very pissed right now.

[monosylab1k]

I know
refs can decide game
not often however yesterdays' chargers game was an expeption

It wasn't, you're wrong, go kill yourself.

[monosylab1k]

On another note, how about Nick Folk? That dude was money.

He seriously might be the best kicker in the NFL now. The Buffalo game was incredible, but he's also as consistent as they get.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

ducks......get over it, the chargers suck donkey's nuts......move on :lol

[Whisky Dog]

I can definitely see these two teams in the NFC title game. Eagles are for real as long as McNabb stays upright and plays like this, and the Cowboys when fully healthy probably only lose to themselves, which is highly probable.

[ducks]

ducks......get over it, the chargers suck donkey's nuts......move on :lol

we shall see
this is the year they will get to the superbowl
:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[samikeyp]

we shall see
this is the year they will get to the superbowl
:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

They better figure something out quick then.

[ducks]

true

but their d in second half was awesome without LB Merriman

first time they played without him

and had denver not got the help of the int on rivers first pass
and got the crowd going early
who knows what the d would have done in the first half

[mytespurs]

Eagles-Cowboys = classic!!! It was as good as the hype. I saw the last quarter-Eagles had their chances....oh well, the last game of the season should be exciting!!!

[BlackSwordsMan]

I thought cowboys were gonna lose after romo's turnover

[samikeyp]

I thought cowboys were gonna lose after romo's turnover

Yeah that pissed me off. He knows better than that. He should have just fallen on it or thrown it out the back of the end zone and give up 2 pts instead of 7.

[BlackSwordsMan]

TO did no TD celebrations =[

[samikeyp]

TO did no TD celebrations =[

Didn't he do his Eagle wing flap after the first one?

[dirk4mvp]

Mcnabb cost them the game. Anybody not rooting for the cowboys opinon is shot down when one of them disagrees and their buddies come grab their cock for them and defend them all day.


some of you idiots are fuckin stupid

cowboy fans > kobe fans

i think i'll go pull a vince young.

[IronMexican]

Ducks, the Spur, D-back, and Charger fan?

[BlackSwordsMan]

Didn't he do his Eagle wing flap after the first one?

oh yeah but after he left the end zone

[BlackSwordsMan]

Mcnabb cost them the game. Anybody not rooting for the cowboys opinon is shot down when one of them disagrees and their buddies come grab their cock for them and defend them all day.


some of you idiots are fuckin stupid

cowboy fans > kobe fans

i think i'll go pull a vince young.

Ware cost them the game with that sack

[BlackSwordsMan]

surprised on some missed calls tonight that face mask on westbrooks and that pass interference called on the cowboys

[bostonguy]

These are by far the 2 best teams in the NFC as long as they can stay healthy. Mcnabb is back and in full force. He might have made some critical mistakes but he isnt the main culprit for why they lost. The Eagles D gave up big plays along with their special teams. It's a team game.

The Cowboys were on pace to blowing this game wide open up 14-6 with the ball until Romo's int followed by his fumble in the his own endzone put Philly in control. At the same time, the Eagles gave up a big play in the final seconds of the 2nd quarter to make it a 6 point lead rather than a 9 point lead with Dallas getting the ball back to start the 3rd (I believe they scored a td on that drive). Both teams made idiotic mistakes throughout the game and both teams were in position to increase their lead to double digits. In the end, the Cowboys got the W and the Eagles got the L. Both teams have lots of room for improvement. All in all, this was a fun game to watch.

[JudynTX]

:( Well here I am! Not running away from our loss. Hats off to the Cowboys for the best MNF game I've seen in a long time. :toast

We'll get revenge in December, when it counts. :hat

[stretch]

Cowboys did not answer any of my doubts. They still have discipline issues, making rookie-like boneheaded mistakes at poor times, and still seem soft. Their opponents don't seem intimidated in the slightest bit. And another issue that I started noticing towards the end of last year that was exploited by the Giants quite a bit in the playoffs is even more evident...

This team relies almost ENTIRELY on big plays. Take away big plays, and Romo starts running wild in the pocket trying to make something out of nothing, which is when he starts to get in trouble. I have lots of questions about their ability to really sustain a drive once their opponent takes the big plays away.

On the other side... McNabb needs to run more. If he took off running a couple times there toward the end instead of trying to throw, the Eagles probably win the game. Oh, and his recievers are trash. It's amazing that he can run such a proficient passing offense with such garbage for recievers. I've never seen a QB get such good production out of such a trashy core of recievers. When they get Curtis and Brown back, the Eagles offense should be quite scary, as they will now have two blazing fast recievers in Curtis and Jackson, and a solid all-around guy in Brown, which should also open things up for Baskett to get single coverage and with his size advantage, will make him quite a threat.

[stretch]

surprised on some missed calls tonight that face mask on westbrooks and that pass interference called on the cowboys

i think that PI was more of a makeup call for those two blatantly missed face masks.

[monosylab1k]

surprised on some missed calls tonight that face mask on westbrooks

yeah i thought they were supposed to enforce offensive face masking more often? I saw running backs grabbing face masks and shoving defenders all Sunday and last night too, no flags ever.

[samikeyp]

:( Well here I am! Not running away from our loss. Hats off to the Cowboys for the best MNF game I've seen in a long time. :toast

We'll get revenge in December, when it counts. :hat

I'm pretty sure last night's game counted. :)

[JudynTX]

I'm pretty sure last night's game counted. :)

:lol Good luck against the Packers!

[lurker23]

Props to the Cowboys for a heck of a game. It was well played on both sides, and it's a shame someone had to lose. As much as I can't stand Cowboys fans sometimes, I think the difference last night was the home crowd, and the fact that Dallas had one more big play than Philadelphia.

Usually I can't stand games where neither team plays defense (in any sport, really), but I enjoyed last night simply because it was a Cowboys/Eagles game, despite the ridiculous emotional roller coaster. Can't wait until the next one.

[JudynTX]

:tu True, the crowd was very loud.

[ducks]

Ducks, the Spur, D-back, and Charger fan?

yes

[samikeyp]

:tu True, the crowd was very loud.

A friend of mine who was at the game last night has been going to games there for the last 10 years and said it was the loudest he had ever heard. Usually not something associated with Texas Stadium.

[bostonguy]

Cowboys did not answer any of my doubts. They still have discipline issues, making rookie-like boneheaded mistakes at poor times, and still seem soft. Their opponents don't seem intimidated in the slightest bit. And another issue that I started noticing towards the end of last year that was exploited by the Giants quite a bit in the playoffs is even more evident...

This team relies almost ENTIRELY on big plays. Take away big plays, and Romo starts running wild in the pocket trying to make something out of nothing, which is when he starts to get in trouble. I have lots of questions about their ability to really sustain a drive once their opponent takes the big plays away.

On the other side... McNabb needs to run more. If he took off running a couple times there toward the end instead of trying to throw, the Eagles probably win the game. Oh, and his recievers are trash. It's amazing that he can run such a proficient passing offense with such garbage for recievers. I've never seen a QB get such good production out of such a trashy core of recievers. When they get Curtis and Brown back, the Eagles offense should be quite scary, as they will now have two blazing fast recievers in Curtis and Jackson, and a solid all-around guy in Brown, which should also open things up for Baskett to get single coverage and with his size advantage, will make him quite a threat.


You have to admit these are the 2 best teams in the NFC. Both teams didnt look sharp at all but both can turn it around when December hits. It is a long season. The Cowboys have the talent to be a great team but they havent shown it yet.

Mcnabb needs to show he can stay healthy a full year. The guy IMO is going to have a better season than 04-05 when he had Owens. The guy gets a lot of shit from Eagles fans/other fans which I dont understand. Injuries have hurt him but he is one of the huge reasons why Philly went as far as they did all those years. Stretch I wouldnt call this core of wideouts trash either. Jackson is pretty good as are Baskett and Curtis/Brown(once they get back).

All in all both teams have their share of questions and concerns but I expect this to be the first of 3 meetings. The 2nd will be week 17 and the 3rd will be the NFC title game.

[stretch]

You have to admit these are the 2 best teams in the NFC.

I agree completely. I have been saying that the whole time.


Stretch I wouldnt call this core of wideouts trash either. Jackson is pretty good as are Baskett and Curtis/Brown(once they get back).

Yes, but Curtis/Brown arent back yet. When they come back, then the core is solid. But when Greg Lewis and Jason Avant are splitting your #2 reciever spot, then you know your core has issues. McNabb has done a hella good job with them though.

[travis2]

Romo post-game when asked "what were you thinking during that play in the 2nd quarter?"

*chuckles*
Dang...
*chuckles*
I suck...

:lol

[ShoogarBear]

we shall see
this is the year they will get to the superbowl
:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:


They better figure something out quick then.

Are they going to fire Norv?

[DBryant88]

no this happened last season, the chargers are just a better team in the late parts of the season

[dirk4mvp]

no this happened last season, the chargers are just a better team in the late parts of the season


hi ducks

[ducks]

Are they going to fire Norv?

norv is not the problem


he is way better then marty

[Trainwreck2100]

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20080916espn01


[09.16.08 - 02:55 PM]
MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL -- CABLE'S BIGGEST AUDIENCE EVER
Released by ESPN
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Monday Night Football -- Cable's Biggest Audience Ever

ESPN Wins Prime Time among All Networks for Second Straight Week

ESPN.com NFL Content Yields 8.6 Million Visits & 86 Million Page Views

Last night, ESPN's Monday Night Football the Dallas Cowboys' 41-37 home victory over the Philadelphia Eagles delivered the biggest audience in the history of cable television. The game earned a 13.3 rating, representing 12,953,000 homes (18,608,000 P2+), edging the previous record, ESPN's New England Baltimore Monday Night Football telecast of December 3, 2007 (12,529,000 homes, based on a 13.0 rating, 17,522,000 P2+). In addition, for the second straight Monday, ESPN won the night among all networks, broadcast or cable, and the game drove significant traffic to ESPN.com's NFL content.

Last night's telecast is the most-watched prime-time NFL game of the 2008 season to date. It also is ESPN's third-highest rating of all time, trailing only two other NFL games: Chicago at Minnesota on December 6, 1987 (14.4 rating; 8,400,000 homes), and Detroit at Miami on Christmas 1994 (14.2 rating; 8,927,000).

Cable's third-biggest audience ever is also an ESPN Monday Night Football telecast from Dallas the New York Giants at the Cowboys on October 23, 2006, with an average of 11,807,000 homes (12.8 rating, 16.028 P2+).

For 2008, the three Monday Night Football telecasts represent cable's three biggest audiences of the year. The other two came in last week's special 2008 season-opening doubleheader of Monday Night Football:

Minnesota at Green Bay earned a 9.3 rating, representing an average of 9,051,000 households (12,501,000 viewers P2+)

Denver at Oakland received a 7.3 rating with an average of 7,153,000 households watching (9,665,000 viewers).

Those two games powered ESPN to an increase in ratings vs. the first NFL weekend of 2007, the only NFL partner network to post a ratings increase with its opening week games.

The telecast's statistics represent increases of 46% in rating, 48% in household impressions and 60% among P2+, respectively, vs. the same week last year (Philadelphia Washington: 9.1; 8,735,000 and 11,633,000).

For the NFL season to date, ESPN's Monday Night Football is averaging a 10.1 rating and 9,846,000 households (13,786,000 P2+), up 23%, 25% and 32%, respectively from last season through three games.

ESPN's presentation of the game around the game, which included NFL studio programming starting at 3:30 p.m. through the conclusion of NFL Primetime at 2:30 a.m. ET, delivered 25.6 gross household coverage ratings for its MNF coverage.

ESPN.com

Also, NFL content on ESPN.com, including Monday Night Surround, accessed via computers and mobile devices generated more than 8.6 million visits and more nearly 86 million page views from Monday through Tuesday at noon. In addition, during the same period there were more than 2.6 million views of pro football-related video on ESPN.com and SportsCenter Right Now was viewed more than 2.4 million times. Also, in the past week (Tuesday through Monday) ESPN football-related podcasts were downloaded more than 614,000 times.

NEXT WEEK ON MNF

Next week, ESPN's MNF schedule will continue with the New York Jets and Brett Favre visiting the San Diego Chargers at 8:30 p.m. The complete Monday NFL schedule on ESPN:

Time (ET) Program
3:30 p.m. NFL Live
4 p.m. NFL PrimeTime
5 p.m. Around the Horn
5:30 p.m. Pardon the Interruption
6 p.m. SportsCenter Monday Kickoff
7 p.m. Monday Night Countdown
8:30 p.m. MNF: New York Jets at San Diego Chargers
11:30 p.m. SportsCenter

Kinda makes you wonder how many MNF games the cowboys would have got if it was still on ABC

[StylisticS]

Cowboys did not answer any of my doubts. They still have discipline issues, making rookie-like boneheaded mistakes at poor times, and still seem soft. Their opponents don't seem intimidated in the slightest bit. And another issue that I started noticing towards the end of last year that was exploited by the Giants quite a bit in the playoffs is even more evident...

This team relies almost ENTIRELY on big plays. Take away big plays, and Romo starts running wild in the pocket trying to make something out of nothing, which is when he starts to get in trouble. I have lots of questions about their ability to really sustain a drive once their opponent takes the big plays away.

.

Your concerns are legit and fortunately, we have 14 weeks to fix that. But the penalties do leave a lot to be desired. Some of those penalties should not have been called on Dallas. But others such as the facemask should never happen. Learn to tackle or find a much better technique. I did see that Dallas defense settled down only allowing 123 yards, 7 points, and sacking Mcnabb 3times. We have the talent to improve at that aspect.

As far as sustaining long drives. I really don't have any issues with that. They have shown they can face those type of adversities before. We lead the league on 3rd down conversions and went 6/10 in the game against Philly. I don't have any concerns that we can't sustain long drives because we still have players either out or players that are still trying to settle down in the offense. Once we find ways to use Felix or even Martellus, Austin, and Hurd in the offense, it adds more weapons on an already loaded offense which will confuses defenses.

[stretch]

As far as sustaining long drives. I really don't have any issues with that. They have shown they can face those type of adversities before. We lead the league on 3rd down conversions and went 6/10 in the game against Philly. I don't have any concerns that we can't sustain long drives because we still have players either out or players that are still trying to settle down in the offense. Once we find ways to use Felix or even Martellus, Austin, and Hurd in the offense, it adds more weapons on an already loaded offense which will confuses defenses.

I don't know man. They simply rely on the big play to get scores wayyyyyyyy too much. The Giants exploited that last year. Even though the Cowboys dominated in TOP (thanks to Barber), they were unable to get any big plays or in good scoring positions, thus Romo ended up having a poor showing, as he was held to a 5.6 YPA and only had 1 TD pass. I think they just have a hard time getting into scoring positions unless they get big plays. They cannot consistently have a good long 5-10 minute drives that ends in TDs. It's like either they score in 2 minutes (with a 30-40 yard bomb somewhere in there), or they punt in 2 minutes. Very rarely do they have sustained drives that just eat defenses away and tire them out. They need big strikes in their drives, or they run into offensive problems. That concerns me just as much as their issues with penalties.

[BradLohaus]

The Cowboys are 3rd in the NFL in total first downs:

1. Denver 58
2. Philly 51
3. Dallas 50
4. Giants 46

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=teamdown&pos=off&league=nfl&season=2&year=2008

And they lead the NFL in 3rd down conversion percentage - by a ton:

1. Dallas 66.7%
2. Baltimore 52.9%
3. Chicago 51.6%
4. Green Bay/Philly 50%

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=teamdown&sort=pct3&pos=off&league=nfl&season=2&year=2008

[Obstructed_View]

It'll be nice to see how the secondary improves having the dirtiest player in the NFL on the sideline. I remember the days when he used to hit people and they'd actually go down. I can't remember the last time that happened.

[ShoogarBear]

norv is not the problem


he is way better then marty

No, he isn't. Believe me, Redskin fans know.

[Spuradicator]

Damn McNabb looks good this year.

[Obstructed_View]

Damn McNabb looks good this year.

McNabb always looks good the first few games of the season. Either last year or the year before he had the best first month of the season in NFL history.

[IronMexican]

No, he isn't. Believe me, Redskin fans know.

Raider fans too. He sucks


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[stretch]

The Cowboys are 3rd in the NFL in total first downs:

1. Denver 58
2. Philly 51
3. Dallas 50
4. Giants 46

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=teamdown&pos=off&league=nfl&season=2&year=2008

And they lead the NFL in 3rd down conversion percentage - by a ton:

1. Dallas 66.7%
2. Baltimore 52.9%
3. Chicago 51.6%
4. Green Bay/Philly 50%

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=teamdown&sort=pct3&pos=off&league=nfl&season=2&year=2008

its great they can do that, but when good teams take away the big plays, they have a harder time scoring points.

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McNabb always looks good the first few games of the season. Either last year or the year before he had the best first month of the season in NFL history.

sure as hell wasnt last year they started 0-2 and he only threw 1 TD in the two games

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sure as hell wasnt last year they started 0-2 and he only threw 1 TD in the two games

Yeah, I couldn't remember which year he was coming off that injury. The point is, he plays great when he's healthy, but only when he's healthy, and a player is typically more likely to be healthy at the beginning of the season.

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Yeah, I couldn't remember which year he was coming off that injury. The point is, he plays great when he's healthy, but only when he's healthy, and a player is typically more likely to be healthy at the beginning of the season.

yeah, not only does he play well early in the season but early in games, and then he seems to wear down. as evidenced in the game on Monday. 30 points in the first half but only 7 in the second. stamina might be an issue here.

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yeah, not only does he play well early in the season but early in games, and then he seems to wear down. as evidenced in the game on Monday. 30 points in the first half but only 7 in the second. stamina might be an issue here.

Actually, McNabb was responsible for 16 1st half points as Romo directly gave away 7 pts and Romo + bullshit ref pass interference gave away 7. McNabb didn't do shit for those.

Regarding the Cowboys and the big play, they've showed through 2 games that they are capable of picking up small chunks of yardage and sustaining drives. Don't know if it will continue throughout the season, but so far the offense looks like it can get it done.

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yeah, not only does he play well early in the season but early in games, and then he seems to wear down. as evidenced in the game on Monday. 30 points in the first half but only 7 in the second. stamina might be an issue here.

In his defense, he continued to do things to get away from defensive linemen that few quarterbacks can do, and he did them over and over again against a rather good team. A guy who stands in the pocket doesn't have those things asked of him for 60 minutes.

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Romo + bullshit ref pass interference gave away 7.

that pass interference call was practically a makeup call for two blatantly missed facemasks.

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We can talk about the Cowboys offense lack of sustaining long drives to death. Careless penalties/discipline, health, and a championship caliber D is what will be the difference of a superbowl or coming up short. Giants D was okay during the regular season but they werent great until the playoffs arrived. Their front 7 played at a championship level. Cowboys need that level of play from their guys if they really want to talk championship. There will be moments especially in the playoffs when the Cowboys O will be contained. There is no such thing as an unstoppable offense. A great D will show that to be true. It is going to be on the D. They have the talent but saying that wont mean anything if the results arent shown on the field.

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We can talk about the Cowboys offense lack of sustaining long drives to death. Careless penalties/discipline, health, and a championship caliber D is what will be the difference of a superbowl or coming up short. Giants D was okay during the regular season but they werent great until the playoffs arrived. Their front 7 played at a championship level. Cowboys need that level of play from their guys if they really want to talk championship. There will be moments especially in the playoffs when the Cowboys O will be contained. There is no such thing as an unstoppable offense. A great D will show that to be true. It is going to be on the D. They have the talent but saying that wont mean anything if the results arent shown on the field.

i agree really with the whole post, but especially this part. cause they will run into resistance in the playoffs and they most likely wont be blowing teams out. this is where they need to get stops. obviously Spurfan knows a lot about defense, making stops, and winning championships so saying anything else on this matter is just preaching to the choir.

and the Cowboys front 7 has not (really never) shown me that they have the energy and stamina to be able to shut down an elite offense, as the Giants did throughout the playoffs last year. maybe the only exception would be the Colts from a couple years ago, and the Philly game is a perfect example of what im talking about

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that pass interference call was practically a makeup call for two blatantly missed facemasks.

Yeah, I'm not sure how they missed both of those. I'm not sure either one was as game changing as that pass interference call, but 30 yards is 30 yards. It was kind of slick to be able to pull the cornerback into him and draw that flag.