McCain campaign proposes putting off VP debate indefinitely....

[Mr. Peabody]

This isn't a joke.

Per CNN.....


September 24, 2008
McCain camp to propose postponing VP debate
Posted: 07:08 PM ET

From CNN Correspondent Dana Bash

Biden and Palin are set to debate October 2.

(CNN) — McCain supporter Sen. Lindsey Graham tells CNN the McCain campaign is proposing to the Presidential Debate Commission and the Obama camp that if there's no bailout deal by Friday, the first presidential debate should take the place of the VP debate, currently scheduled for next Thursday, October 2 in St. Louis.

In this scenario, the vice presidential debate between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin would be rescheduled for a date yet to be determined, and take place in Oxford, Mississippi, currently slated to be the site of the first presidential faceoff this Friday.

Graham says the McCain camp is well aware of the position of the Obama campaign and the debate commission that the debate should go on as planned — but both he and another senior McCain adviser insist the Republican nominee will not go to the debate Friday if there's no deal on the bailout.

Filed under: Presidential Debates

I guess Palin needs to be in DC to help solve the economic crisis.....:lol

[Shastafarian]

This isn't a joke.

Per CNN.....



I guess Palin needs to be in DC to help solve the economic crisis.....:lol

Hey I would love to have the Presidential debate at my Alma mater. But this is ridiculous.

[Spurminator]

Just as surprisingly, Clay Aiken came out of the closet today.

[JoeChalupa]

Just as surprisingly, Clay Aiken came out of the closet today.

:lmao ^RACK!!

[baseline bum]

Wow. Fuck that. Bitch better answer some fucking questions if she's trying to get elected.

[baseline bum]

So why don't we have the VP debate then Friday, John?

[lurker]

Perhaps he wants it to be postponed because of her disaster interview with Katie Couric. :lol

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml


Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

[101A]

Perhaps he wants it to be postponed because of her disaster interview with Katie Couric. :lol

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml

I love it when a politician gets asked real, tough quesitons, and they have no answer.

Unfortunately, it happens very rarely.

I wish all politicians were questioned in this same manner.

Has anyone asked Obama or Biden what THEY have done to reform Wal-street in their time in the Senate? They, also, have both promised to do so IF ELECTED. Just saying, as far as I know, they would have to answer, "No". Of course, they would be more skilled at dodging than Palin is. She did very poorly on that exchange.

[Findog]

He's also known as the maverick though

What the fuck does that even mean at this point?

[baseline bum]

She didn't look hot in that interview, and really, that's all she has to run on is the sex appeal.

:td

[Findog]

I just want to know if any McCain supporters can answer why she gets shielded from the same level of press scrutiny as the other 3 guys. Isn't the way the McCain campaign uses her strike you as sexist?

[ElNono]

Wow. Now I understand why they keep her under wraps. I'm not just talking about the quoted parts. Stuff like this:



Couric: Would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average Americans keep their homes?

Palin: That's something that John McCain and I have both been discussing - whether that ... is part of the solution or not. You know, it's going to be a multi-faceted solution that has to be found here.

Couric: So you haven't decided whether you'll support it or not?

Palin: I have not.

Couric: What are the pros and cons of it do you think?

Palin: Oh, well, some decisions that have been made poorly should not be rewarded, of course.

Couric: By consumers, you're saying?

Palin: Consumers - and those who were predator lenders also. That's, you know, that has to be considered also. But again, it's got to be a comprehensive, long-term solution found ... for this problem that America is facing today. As I say, we are getting into crisis mode here.


...is terrible. I have to think she was nervous.

[Mr. Body]

I will feel better when there's no chance she'll be running the country. I'm as white as a sheet.

[mookie2001]

i was looking forward to biden ruining palin like no other, god it wouldve been a bloodbath


they should put off the election too

[Findog]

After watching that interview with Gibson, I was convinced he was more qualified to be Veep than her. Add Katie Couric to the list. She's so fucking clueless.

[Shastafarian]

I almost feel bad for her...almost. She got herself into this. If she can't handle tough questions, then it's her own damn fault.

[Findog]

Is McCain wishing he had Romney right about now? He'd be making a strong play for Michigan, independent voters in general, and his campaign wouldn't be on the defensive on economic issues.

[j-6]

Like the Marriott's of the world care about the VP debate. They're still pissy that they can't watch America's Got Talent until Dubya finishes his speech tonight. Thank God he's not preempting Dancing With the Stars - the economy might collapse under the amount of paid text messages ABC is missing out on.

[baseline bum]

* sound of crickets chirping from the right *

[Findog]

Even the National Review thinks this reeks of desperation. It was jarring to hear Charles Krauthammer praise Obama.

[Shastafarian]

Even the National Review thinks this reeks of desperation. It was jarring to hear Charles Krauthammer praise Obama.

I hope people checked Hell for frost.

[KenMcCoy]

Everything is going to go as scheduled...I think McCain will show up at the debate Friday at the last minute...then Palin-Biden will be just as scheduled as well.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

ROFLROFL
"He's also known as a maverick though"

wtf???? What a stupid bimbo bitch!! :rollin

[Shastafarian]

Everything is going to go as scheduled...I think McCain will show up at the debate Friday at the last minute...then Palin-Biden will be just as scheduled as well.

People in the media and Barney Frank are saying a deal is gonna get done soon. Keep in mind this is before McCain has left for Washington.

[MannyIsGod]

I thought for sure this thread was a joke when I saw it....

[Wild Cobra]

People in the media and Barney Frank are saying a deal is gonna get done soon. Keep in mind this is before McCain has left for Washington.
Well, I've been listening to C-Span 2 for the last few hours. Nothing on this subject yet. They are still live right now!

Ooops, they just now went to recess till 9 AM.

Besides Frank is in the House of Representatives, not the Senate. He has ZERO to do with senate proceedings. I'll bet the senate is debating this issue starting tomorrow.

[Wild Cobra]

Before you liberals have a premature ejaculation over the Couric - Palin interview, I would suggest to do two things. Look at it from an unbiased viewpoint, and find out how much was edited out. I didn't see any bad moves on the part of Palin, but then you liberals expect different things than we conservativres. Don't you.

That last exchange posted could have been edited just like her last interview was. I's say it probably was.

[TheMadHatter]

Oh God you just can't make this shit up. This woman is worse than we all thought.

[jochhejaam]

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

That's a bit rough.

[ChumpDumper]

Look at it from an unbiased viewpointDid you?

[FromWayDowntown]

Did you?

Of course not -- when conservatives look bad, it's always because the big, bad liberal media ignores context and edits things to create that appearance; when liberals look bad, well, that's just liberals being liberals.

[hitmanyr2k]

I've been saying it since Day 1. This lady is dumber than a sack of hammers. I'm sure she's intelligent in her own little way as all of us are. However, on issues concerning this country she doesn't have a clue. The only thing she's really good for is memorizing John McCain talking points like a robot. Ask her any kind of serious question or specifics and she'll immediately spit out a line that makes you look at her like....

http://hitmanyr2k.com/YoureOneDumbMF.jpg

[Shastafarian]

Have a look at this gem


The aide did not know whether Gov. Palin would attend Oct. 2's vice presidential debate if Congress, by that point, still hasn't reached a deal.

Yeah cuz she's gotta go back to her seat in the house of repr...wait no to her seat in the senate...wait. Why would she have any reason to skip the debate again?

[romad_20]

Wow. Just don't know what else to say about her.

[Last Comic Standing]

Just a few weeks back every swinging dick in this forum was waxing their carrots to this bitch.
:lmao

[pickle girl]

I've been saying it since Day 1. This lady is dumber than a sack of hammers.



Link?

[DarkReign]

Everything is going to go as scheduled...I think McCain will show up at the debate Friday at the last minute...then Palin-Biden will be just as scheduled as well.

I hope you are correct, good sir.

[DarkReign]

Have a look at this gem



Yeah cuz she's gotta go back to her seat in the house of repr...wait no to her seat in the senate...wait. Why would she have any reason to skip the debate again?

If she dodges the VP debates in any way, shape or form, my undecided ass will be fully decided.

I have been fair to btoh candidates. Ive tried my very best to look at things with no bias.

But lets be realsitic, please? For just a moment....please.

McCain is an older man. Humans dont live forever, especially those with pre-existing conditions. He gave everything short of his life in Vietnam, hes a patriot and a good politician.

With that said, there is a distinct possibility that Palin could become President. In other years the VP was less important, not this time.

Obama could be shot within two months of office. Very real possibility.
McCain could die in his sleep before inaguration. Very real possibility.

So the VP, from both sides is important, IMO.

Biden is a known quantity. Hes been around a looong time. Im still very interested to see his dexterity in a "debate" forum.

Palin is the wild card. Like it or not, she is being sheltered from the media. I dont like that. What is she hiding? Moreover, in her two interviews since her nomination, to put it mildly....she didnt do very well. BUT, interviews are interviews.

Its always been my opinion that you get a firm understanding of a candidates policy from their commercials and townhalls, etc.

You get a good understand of them personally from the "debates". You can rehearse in a mirror allllll week long in preparation for the debate, reciting the questions you will be asked, and repeating exactly what your speechwriter wrote.

But you will always have to go "off script" at some point. You have to. Because even though you know the next question and have a prepared answer beforehand, you dont know what the other candidate is going to say!

If they attack you on some issue and all you do is read the script verbatim, youre going to look awfully dumb and incompetent.

So, all in all, I know this entire process is a farce....but the "debates" are the only real chance to see the mental-flexibility of the candidates. Are they witty and intelligent? Do they have a temper when their policies are attacked (in my mind, as long as its your ideals being attacked and not you personally, you should remain cool and professional)? Are they no brighter than the speechwriter they hired?

All of these questions can be answered by dedicating the alloted time to do so. There is very little transparency in politics, IMO. We the People are sold an image and a few ideas. They pull on the issues they think are important to the majority of Americans, and run with that.

Only when theyre all on stage together do their flaws and humanity either show or fail to show.

If they find some half-cooked way of not having a VP debate, then my vote is sealed.

From the commentary and things I have read on her, becoming the Vice President of the United States of America requires you to be a known quantity. Especially when she'll be VP to the oldest President in history and just-so-happened to spend a good part of his adult life locked up as a POW.

If they find a way to blanket Palin until November, and the McCain ticket wins, I only hope and pray McCain lasts his entire term.

Think about it....

You motherfuckers here know more about me than you do Palin. Do you want me to be VP to the oldest President in history?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

People in the media and Barney Frank are saying a deal is gonna get done soon. Keep in mind this is before McCain has left for Washington.what is that jackass doing in there?

[clambake]

damn, mccain will even lie to letterman. he will lie about the most trivial things. his integrity is fragile. this is sad.....that mccain has come to this.

[Shastafarian]

what is that jackass doing in there?

Maybe because he's the House Financial Services Committee Chairman? Could that be the reason?

[Findog]

Maybe because he's the House Financial Services Committee Chairman? Could that be the reason?

Dumbass doesn't know what a conference committee is.

[Shastafarian]

Dumbass doesn't know what a conference committee is.

But he knows what an "obemessiden" is.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Maybe because he's the House Financial Services Committee Chairman? Could that be the reason?
???
the same guy that's been "supervising" fannie mae and freddie mac since 2003? the same guy that said

"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis...........The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

.............that Barney Frank?
http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif

[Oh, Gee!!]

find out how much was edited out.

let's call cbs and see if they give us the raw footage. great idea, genius.

[Shastafarian]

???
the same guy that's been "supervising" fannie mae and freddie mac since 2003? the same guy that said

"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis...........The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

.............that Barney Frank?

Yes. That Barney Frank. He said a deal was nearing. And what's this?!?!? Reports are a deal is nearing!!! What's the best you got there Nostradamus?

[Oh, Gee!!]

Yes. That Barney Frank. He said a deal was nearing. And what's this?!?!? Reports are a deal is nearing!!! What's the best you got there Nostradamus?

[enter john mccain] not without me it's not!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Yes. That Barney Frank. He said a deal was nearing. And what's this?!?!? Reports are a deal is nearing!!! What's the best you got there Nostradamus?just checking. i guess this is where "look at the story. not the source" comes into play. i'll make note.

[Yonivore]

The only thing she's really good for is memorizing John McCain talking points like a robot.
That, right there...even if true, would put her ahead of Biden; who can't get the Obama talking points even remotely correct.

She actually knows her ticket's positions. Biden, on the other hand...well, just ask the coal miners.

[2centsworth]

boy this thread is a stretch. They are trying to reschedule the Presidential Debate and because of time and Money the St. Louis Debate is obviously a "possibility". Per the story, the rescheduling was YTD not indefinately/ cancelled. You guys are such a joke.

My opinion is that they should reschedule the debate for Monday if the bailout is approved by tommorrow and keep the VP for Thursday.

[Oh, Gee!!]

boy this thread is a stretch. the rescheduling was YTD not indefinately cancelled. You guys are such a joke.



rescheduled for a date yet to be determined



in·def·i·nite
–adjective
not determined

learn the english language

[Mr. Peabody]

boy this thread is a stretch. They are trying to reschedule the Presidential Debate and because of time and Money the St. Louis Debate is obviously a "possibility". Per the story, the rescheduling was yet to be determined not indefinately cancelled. You guys are such a joke.

My opinion is that they should reschedule the debate for Monday if the bailout is approved by tommorrow and keep the VP for Thursday.

I don't think you know what the term indefinite means.....

[Shastafarian]

boy this thread is a stretch. They are trying to reschedule the Presidential Debate and because of time and Money the St. Louis Debate is obviously a "possibility". Per the story, the rescheduling was YTD not indefinately cancelled. You guys are such a joke.


Um. Do you know what indefinitely means?

[angel_luv]

This is one of the rare instances in which I agree with Senator Obama.

The candidates have an excellent opportunity to showcase their ability to multi task and ought to proceed with the debates as planned.

[Findog]

God I hope Angel Luv is representative of undecided voters.

[florige]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26885268/


So why is McCain still mum even though a plan has been worked out in principle?

[2centsworth]

I don't think you know what the term indefinite means.....

absolutely, but the connotation of indefinite is different than what was said in the article.

[Oh, Gee!!]

liberal media strikes again. right, twocents?

[2centsworth]

liberal media strikes again. right, twocents?

are you taking bong hits? The thread title is misleading.

[Oh, Gee!!]

liberal peabody strikes again?

[Shastafarian]

absolutely, but the connotation of indefinite is different than what was said in the article.


are you taking bong hits? The thread title is misleading.

To be determined = indefinite

You're not too bright are ya?

[2centsworth]

To be determined = indefinite

You're not too bright are ya?

teaching you is a waste, but here's my only attempt. indefinite has no boundaries.

[Shastafarian]

teaching you is a waste, but here's my only attempt. indefinite has no boundaries.


indefinitely cancelled

I'm sorry, what?

[Oh, Gee!!]

teaching you is a waste, but here's my only attempt. indefinite has no boundaries.

howz about undetermined? does that connote boundaries?

[Shastafarian]

To me, offering a "to be determined" doesn't exactly espouse "boundaries". But then again 2cents needs to continuously teach me things. Like the meaning of "indefinitely cancelled".

[FromWayDowntown]

Saying that something has been put off indefinitely doesn't connote cancellation to me.

[2centsworth]

Saying that something has been put off indefinitely doesn't connote cancellation to me.

Great, I'll pay you the money I owe you at an indefinite period of time.

How many things have been put off indefinitely and are eventually cancelled?

anyways, the debates will go on as scheduled.

[I Love Me Some Me]

You're not even arguing over the right word.

Did they ask for a postponment, or a cancellation?

If it's cancelled, it doesn't matter if it's indefinite or to-be-determind...it's just cancelled and ain't gonna happen.

If it's postponed, then it's gonna happen either never (indefinitely) or sometime that we don't know yet (to-be-determined).

[FromWayDowntown]

Great, I'll pay you the money I owe you at an indefinite period of time.

Fine. That's a very different thing than agreeing to cancel your debt.

[2centsworth]

Fine. That's a very different thing than agreeing to cancel your debt.

so how much can I borrow indefinitely? I'm sure not more than you're willing to give away.