300 Retired Generals And Admirals Endorse John McCain For President

[whottt]

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For Immediate Release
September 26, 2008 Contact: Press Office
703-650-5550

300 Retired Generals And Admirals Endorse John McCain For President



ARLINGTON, VA -- U.S. Senator John McCain's presidential campaign today announced that 300 retired generals and admirals from around the country are endorsing John McCain for president. The retired generals and admirals announced their support with the following letter:

"We have had the honor and privilege of serving as career officers in the United States Armed Forces, and of serving shoulder to shoulder with so many of the fine young men and women who are the backbone of America's Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Coast Guard. It is that experience that informs our judgment that John McCain is the presidential candidate best suited to serve as America's Commander-in Chief from the day of his inauguration.

"Our next president will confront national security challenges as significant as those faced by any administration in at least a generation. Success will require a leader with proven tenacity, judgment and courage. It will also require a leader with detailed knowledge of our military and other instruments of national power, and with years of experience dealing seriously with foreign leaders.

"John McCain's entire life has been devoted to the service of America. Throughout a long and distinguished career in the military and in Congress, he has repeatedly displayed the courage and integrity to place America's interests first -- regardless of personal cost. And he has demonstrated the experience and wisdom to lead America -- and, importantly, our allies -- in effectively dealing with complex and vitally important national security challenges around the world.

"We unequivocally endorse him to continue his service to the country as the next President of the United States."

Rear Admiral John W. Adams, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Patrick O. Adams, USAF (Ret.)

Major General Albert B. Akers, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Paul Albritton, USA (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Richard Allen, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral James F. Amerault, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Vincent J. Anzilotti, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Charlie Bagnal, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General John "Doc" Bahnsen, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Kenneth P. Barausky, USN (Ret.)

Major General Barry D. Bates, USA (Ret.)

Major General Ron Beckwith, USMC (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Martin R. Berndt, USMC (Ret.)

Brigadier General Charles L. Bishop, USAF (Ret.)

Major General John Blatsos, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Ben Blaz, USMC (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Harry Blot, USMC (Ret.)

Brigadier General William A. "Art" Bloomer, USMC (Ret.)

Major General John L. Borling, USAF (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Mike Bowman, III, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Roger Box, USN (Ret.)

Major General Patrick Brady, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jerry Breast, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Bruce Bremner, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Jeremiah Brophy, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Thomas Brown, III, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Richard A. Browning, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General Tom Bruner, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Lyle Bull, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral E.A. Burkhalter, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jay Campbell, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jim Carey, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Jimmy Cash, USAF (Ret.)

Major General George Cates, USMC (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Steve Chadwick, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Steve Clarey, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Albert P. Clark, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General Clifton "Tip" Clark, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General Wes Clark, USAF (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Edward Clexton, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Richard A. Coleman, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Leroy Collins, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General John B. Conaway, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Ralph Cook, USN (Ret.)

Major General Richard M. Cooke, USMC (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Matthew T. "Terry" Cooper, USMC (Ret.)

Major General Mike Coyne, USMC (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Robert C. Crates, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Howard, Jr. Crowell, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Robert Dastin, USAF (Ret.)

General James B. Davis, USAF (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Walter J. Davis, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral James P. Davidson, USN (Ret.)

Major General Hollis Davidson, USMC (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Kevin Delaney, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jerry Denton, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Chip Diehl, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Richard F. Donnelly, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Frank Donovan, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Bill Dougherty, USN (Ret.)

Major General George Douglas, USAF (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Walter D. Druen, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Phillip J. Duffy, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Richard M. Dunleavy, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Robert F. Dunn, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral James W. Eastwood, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral James E. Eckelberger, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Russ Eggers, USAF (Ret.)

Major General James N. Ellis, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Paul Engel, USN (Ret.)

Major General Bill Eshelman, USMC (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Marsha Johnson Evans, USN (Ret.)

Major General Merrill Evans, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral James H. Flatley, III, USN (Ret.)

Admiral S. Robert Foley, USN (Ret.)

General John W. Foss, USA (Ret.)

Major General Stuart French, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Ronne Froman, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Vance H. Fry, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Robert Byron Fuller, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Skip Furlong, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Barton Gilbert, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Wendell Gilbert, USA (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Hank Giffin, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Andrew Giordano, USN (Ret.)

Major General Rick Goddard, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Ted Gordon, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Russell W. Gorman, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral H.E. "Rick" Grant, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Thomas N. Griffin, USA (Ret.)

Major General Jeffery R. Grime, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General Tom Hall, USAF (Ret.)

Admiral Ronald J. Hays, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Thomas B. Hayward, USN (Ret.)

Major General Guy Hecker, USAF (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Rolland Heiser, USA (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Dick Herr, USCG (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Robert P. Hickey, USN (Ret.)

Major General Geoffrey Higginbotham, USMC (Ret.)

Major General Don Hilbert, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Virgil Hill, USN (Ret.)

Major General Kent Hillhouse, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Edward J. "Ned" Hogan, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral A. Byron Holderby, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Grant T. Hollett, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Admiral James L. Holloway, USN (Ret.)

Major General William Hoover, USAF (Ret.)

General Charles A. "Chuck" Horner, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General James Hourin, USAF (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Jefferson D. Howell, Jr., USMC (Ret.)

Lieutenant General John I. Hudson, USMC (Ret.)

Vice Admiral James D. Hull, USN (Ret.)

Major General Evan Hultman, USA (Ret.)

Major General Charles A. Ingram, USA (Ret.)

Admiral Bobby R. Inman, USN (Ret.)

Major General Harry Jenkins, USMC (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Ronald H. Jesberg, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Gregory G. "Grog" Johnson, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Jerome Johnson, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral J. Michael "Carlos" Johnson, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Steve Kantrowitz, USNR (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Douglas Katz, USN (Ret.)

General P.X. Kelley, USMC (Ret.)

Admiral Robert J. "Barney" Kelly, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Frank B. Kelso II, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral John Kerr, USNR (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Claude M. "Mick" Kicklighter, USA (Ret.)

Major General Phillip G. Killey, USAF (Ret.)

Admiral George E.R. "Gus" Kinnear II, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Jack W. Klimp, USMC (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Hal Koenig, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Alexander J. Krekich, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Ed Kristensen, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Derald Lary, USAF (Ret.)

Admiral Charles R. "Chuck" Larson, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Rufus C. Lazzell, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Ward M. LeHardy, USA (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Tony Less, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Frederick L. Lewis, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Frank Libutti, USMC (Ret.)

Brigadier General William Lindaman, USAF (Ret.)

General James J. Lindsay, USA (Ret.)

Lieutenant General James E. Livingston, USMC (Ret.)

Rear Admiral James W. Lisanby, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Dan Locker, USAF (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Stephen Loftus, USN (Ret.)

General John Michael Loh, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Noah H. Long, USNR (Ret.)

Admiral Joseph Lopez, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Mike Luecke, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Thomas C. Lynch, USN (Ret.)

Admiral James A. "Ace" Lyons, Jr., USN (Ret.)

General Robert Magnus, USMC (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Michael D. Malone, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Daniel P. March, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Edward H. Martin, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral John J. Mazach, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Dan McCarthy, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral William "Scot" McCauley, USN (Ret.)

Major General James C. McCombs, USAF (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Fred McCorkle, USMC (Ret.)

Major General Billy McCoy, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Bill McDaniel, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Craig O. McDonald, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral E.S. "Skip" McGinley, II, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Denny McGinn, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Kinnard R. McKee, USN (Ret.)

Major General Ed Mechenbier, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral George Meinig, USN (Ret.)

Major General Robert L. Menist, USA (Ret.)

Major General Stuart D. Menist, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral William F. Merlin, USCG (Ret.)

Admiral Paul David Miller, USN (Ret.)

Major General Robert W. Mixon, Jr., USA (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Joseph Mobley, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Patrick D. Moneymaker, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Benjamin Montoya, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Charles J. Moore, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Douglas Moore, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Major General W. Bruce Moore, USA (Ret.)

Major General Warren Moore, USAF (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Joseph P. Moorer, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Paul Moses, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Paul Mulloy, USN (Ret.)

Major General William L. Mundie, USA (Ret.)

General Carl E. Mundy, Jr., USMC (Ret.)

Major General Terry Murray, USMC (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Hank Mustin, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Carol Mutter, USMC (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jack Natter, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Jerry Neff, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Mike Neil, USMCR (Ret.)

Brigadier General Robert Henry Neitz, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General Ben Nelson, Jr., USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Ed Nelson, USCG (Ret.)

Brigadier General Warren "Bud" Nelson, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General Eddie Newman, USA (Ret.)

Major General George W. Norwood, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jacqueline "Jackie" O'Meara, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Ira C. "Chuck" Owens, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Robert S. "Rupe" Owens, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Dave Palmer, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Robert V. Paschon, USAF (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Ellis D. "Don" Parker, USA (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Ted Parker, USN (Ret.)

Major General Earl G. Peck, USAF (Ret.)

Major General John Peppers, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Maurice Phillips, USA (Ret.)

Major General Paul A. Pochara, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral David Polatty, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Thomas J. Porter, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Noel G. Preston, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Joseph W. Prueher, USN (Ret.)

Major General Bill Raines, USA (Ret.)

Vice Admiral William E. Ramsey, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral William Retz, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Jon A. Reynolds, USAF (Ret.)

Vice Admiral David C. Richardson, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Thomas M. Rienzi, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Stewart Andrew Ring, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Steve Ritchie, USAF (Ret.)

Major General James Milnor Roberts, Jr., USA (Ret.)

Vice Admiral David B. Robinson, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Bill Roll, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Wayne Rosenthal, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Pete Rots, USCG (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Ed Rowny, USA (Ret.)

Major General Michael D. Ryan, USMC (Ret.)

Vice Admiral John R. Ryan, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Luciano C. Salamone, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jim Schear, USNR (Ret.)

Major General Carl G. Schneider, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General Dennis Schulstad, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Hugh Scott, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral James E. Service, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Bill Shawcross, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Edward D. "Ted" Sheafer, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Mike Sheridan, USMC (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Robert F. "Dutch" Shoultz, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Robert H. Shumaker, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Bruce Smith, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Leighton "Snuffy" Smith, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Norman Smith, USMC (Ret.)

Major General Richard D. Smith, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Robert (Bob) Smith, III, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Stan Smith, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Roy D. Snyder, USN (Ret.)

Major General J.R. Spalding, USAF (Ret.)

Major General Stanhope S. Spears, Adjutant General, South Carolina

Major General Ralph Spraker, USAF (Ret.)

Brigadier General Bill Spruance, USAF (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Hank Stackpole, USMC (Ret.)

Rear Admiral James Stark, USN (Ret.)

General Carl Stiner, USA (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Edward M. Straw, USN (Ret.)

Major General Ansel M. Stroud, USA (Ret.)

Major General Willam A. Studder, USAF (Ret.)

Major General Leroy N. Suddath, USA (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Gordon Sumner, Jr., USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Paul E. Sutherland, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Bob Sutton, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jeremy Taylor, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Jimmie Taylor, USN (Ret.)

Major General Robert C. Taylor, USAF (Ret.)

Rear Admiral William E. Terry, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Deese Thompson, USCG (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Howie Thorsen, USCG (Ret.)

Major General Harold Timboe, M.D., USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Ernest E. Tissot, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Robert F. Titus, USAF (Ret.)

Vice Admiral John B. Totushek, USN (Ret.)

Major General Rockly Triantafellu, USAF (Ret.)

Admiral Carlyle A. H. Trost, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Jerry Unruh, USN (Ret.)

Major General Alfred A. Valenzuela, USA (Ret.)

Major General Paul Vallely, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Lloyd "Joe" Vasey, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General John Vines, USA (Ret.)

Major General John G. "Jack" Waggener, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Edward K. Walker, Jr., USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General John F. Wall, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General W.L. "Bill" Wallace, USA (Ret.)

Admiral James D. Watkins, USN (Ret.)

Major General Gary Wattnem, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Donald Weatherson, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Hugh Webster, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Arvid E. West, USA (Ret.)

Major General Drax Williams, USMC (Ret.)

Lieutenant General James A. Williams, USA (Ret.)

Brigadier General Mitchell M. Willoughby, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Dennis Wisely, USN (Ret.)

Major General Herbert E. Wolff, USA (Ret.)

Major General John J. Womack, USA (Ret.)

Major General Dan Wood, USA (Ret.)

Lieutenant General John W. Woodmansee, USA (Ret.)

Rear Admiral George Worthington, USN (Ret.)

Rear Admiral Earl P. Yates, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Allan R. Zenotwitz, USA (Ret.)

Admiral Ronald J. Zlatoper, USN (Ret.)

Brigadier General Mitchell M. Zais, USA (Ret.)

[whottt]

To be fair...millions of Russians voted for Obama as President of the US in a recent poll.

[whottt]

http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/PressReleases/cdc68576-ba1a-4ef5-8e41-eecaed5ec6b6.htm

For Immediate Release
September 26, 2008 Contact: Press Office



:lmao my guess is they weren't impressed with Obama's take on Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Yonivore]

:lmao my guess is they weren't impressed with Obama's take on Iraq and Afghanistan.
I think they were a bit more than unimpressed...more like petrified this Bozo could ever have the reins of the United States Military.

[Trainwreck2100]

I thought the generals from 300 died

[TheMadHatter]

Game Changer

[baseline bum]

Don't see Franks, Batiste, Eaton, or Swannack on that list.. people who actually commanded in Iraq.

[ChumpDumper]

Damn, whottt is genuinely upset about last night's debate and his hothouse flower.

The more he thinks McCain is going to lose, the more Yoni-esque threads he starts.

Impressive.

[Findog]

:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep

In other news AFL-CIO endorses Obama.

[Yonivore]

:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep

In other news AFL-CIO endorses Obama.
A very good example. Thanks.

[Mr. Peabody]

How may votes do retired generals get?

[Anti.Hero]

Don't fuck with the mighty 300!!!!

[George Gervin's Afro]

I am going to go back and find whott's take on the hundreds of generals who backed kerry in 2004. I'm sure he posted something about that because we know he's ogbjective and gives dems credit for the same things that the repukes do.:rolleyes

[Yonivore]

How may votes do retired generals get?
Depends on how well-respected they are. Many of them commanded quite a few soldiers (voters) in their day. Could be their opinion makes a difference to quite a few of them.

[Biernutz]

All the Euros love Obama --But do they vote absentee? They must count since the Democrats love them.

[AFBlue]

http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/PressReleases/cdc68576-ba1a-4ef5-8e41-eecaed5ec6b6.htm

Major General Rick Goddard, USAF (Ret.)



Interestingly enough, this guy is running for the House seat in the district I live in. He's going up against what I believe to be one of only two House Democrats in the state of Georgia.

[whottt]

I am going to go back and find whott's take on the hundreds of generals who backed kerry in 2004. I'm sure he posted something about that because we know he's ogbjective and gives dems credit for the same things that the repukes do.:rolleyes




In answer to your question, any endorsement Kerry got by military leaders probably carried no weight with me, because I didn't like Kerry. And I didn't want us to cut and run in Iraq.

[hypocriteafarian]

In answer to your question, any endorsement Kerry got by military leaders probably carried no weight with me, because I didn't like Kerry. And I didn't want us to cut and run in Iraq.

That's pretty hypocritical...and my name is hypocriteafarian!!!

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Um I doubt this list is true...does anyone really think Brigadier General Wes Clark, USAF (Ret.) is endorsing McCain? Well....he's on the list

[Shastafarian]

Um I doubt this list is true...does anyone really think Brigadier General Wes Clark, USAF (Ret.) is endorsing McCain? Well....he's on the list

[ChuckD]

The War Cannibal Animal endorses McCain? I'm shocked.

[AFBlue]

Um I doubt this list is true...does anyone really think Brigadier General Wes Clark, USAF (Ret.) is endorsing McCain? Well....he's on the list

Seeing as how the Wesley Clark that you know was a four-star general, I think this completely different guy might just be for McCain.

Oh, and it should also be noted that Wes Clark was in the Army...not USAF.

One final FYI...Brigadier General is a one-star.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Um I doubt this list is true...does anyone really think Brigadier General Wes Clark, USAF (Ret.) is endorsing McCain? Well....he's on the list

Um, I am thinking it is.

The General Wesley Clark you are thinking of was a 4 star general in the Army.

[whottt]

Speaking of the Wesley Clark...don't be surprised if he stops supporting Obama as enthusiastically as he did prior to Biden being named the VP.


I would have been a Republican if Karl Rove had returned my phone calls.


He's not really loyal to either party...I think his biggest issue with the Iraq War is that he wasn't in charge of it.

[Shastafarian]

Speaking of the Wesley Clark...don't be surprised if he stops supporting Obama as enthusiastically as he did prior to Biden being named the VP.




He's not really loyal to either party...I think his biggest issue with the Iraq War is that he wasn't in charge of it.

Link? Or should we just take your word for it?

[ElNono]

Link? Or should we just take your word for it?

What do you think? :lol

[Yonivore]

Link? Or should we just take your word for it?
It appears to me he was stating an opinion...you want a link to his brain?

[Shastafarian]

It appears to me he was stating an opinion...you want a link to his brain?

I was asking for a link to the quote he posted. Is that him channeling Wes Clark or something?

[Yonivore]

I was asking for a link to the quote he posted. Is that him channeling Wes Clark or something?
Sorry, the quote didn't make it to your post.

[Yonivore]

I was asking for a link to the quote he posted. Is that him channeling Wes Clark or something?
Do you ever use google?

It's this easy (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/152tuawi.asp)...


WHEN WILL Wesley Clark stop telling tall tales? In the current issue of Newsweek, Howard Fineman reports Clark told Colorado Gov. Bill Owens and University of Denver president Mark Holtzman that "I would have been a Republican if Karl Rove had returned my phone calls."

[Yonivore]

Meanwhile, controversy surrounds another phone call Clark may or may not have made. According to a Newsweek article by Howard Fineman, Clark told Colorado Gov. Bill Owens and Denver University President Marc Holtzman last January that "I would have been a Republican if [White House political advisor] Karl Rove had returned my phone calls." Though Clark told Fineman he meant the comment as a "humorous tweak," Holtzman claims that "He went into detail about his grievances," and that "Clark wasn't joking. We were really shocked." (Holtzman expanded on his comments in a recent column by Mike Littwin of the Rocky Mountain News). (http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20030925.html)

[rascal]

In answer to your question, any endorsement Kerry got by military leaders probably carried no weight with me, because I didn't like Kerry. And I didn't want us to cut and run in Iraq.

Cut and run, another conservative talk radio term. Another example of repeating a term that he heard on conservative radio. Where is the poll about who repeats conservative talk radio. Exhibit 1: Whottt.

[whottt]

I can't even believe this is actually being discussed...Clark had no stated political affiliation prior to 2002 or so and he initially was extremely supportive of the Bush Admin. He wasn't critical of the Iraq War initially either although he did become one of the first to criticize it...as he was launching his Presidential Campaign, as a Democrat. He couldn't launch his Presidential Candidacy as a Republican in 2003.

As for now...he wasn't an Obama supporter, he was a Clinton supporter who threw his support to Obama after Hillary was defeated.

Furrthermore, he got snubbed by Obama and the Democrats at the DNC, after doing that.

This guy doesn't have any great admiration for McCain...but I am certain he didn't like his political career getting axed by Obama and the Democrats.

This guy is a moderate...he became a Democrat as a matter of convenience.

I don't know that he is all of a sudden going to support McCain...but I bet you don't hear another word out of him about Obama for the rest of this election.

Probably won't be a big deal in the long run...he seemed pretty popular among the Democratic Candidated initially...but he has a habit of being overshadowed.

That said...this guy is probably one of the better strategic military minds available to either candidate...

[whottt]

His favorite Presidents are Reagan, Truman and Eisenhower...if Truman were around today he'd be a Republican.

[Shastafarian]

Do you ever use google?

It's this easy (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/152tuawi.asp)...

I didn't feel like looking for it. Sue me.

[Yonivore]

I didn't feel like looking for it. Sue me.
Nah, I just won't feel compelled to hold your hand through threads...you're on your own.

[Shastafarian]

I don't know that he is all of a sudden going to support McCain...but I bet you don't hear another word out of him about Obama for the rest of this election.


You lose.


Wesley Clark thrills crowds at Harbor Docks


The first sign something was up at Harbor Docks was the westbound cars queuing up to turn at the median cut on U.S. 98.

Some of them, instead of heading into the restaurant’s crowded parking lot Tuesday morning, made a U-turn and headed off to find parking nearby. But despite the obstacles, about 200 people showed up at the restaurant to attend Gen. Wesley Clark’s campaign stop for Barack Obama.

“I attend his church in Little Rock,” Arkansas transplant Peggy Goodspeed told The Log. “In a swimsuit, he looks just like a teenager — he swims every day.”

The rally drew a mix of white and black, old and young, veterans and civilians, women in business pantsuits, men in blazers and retirees in sweatshirts and sandals. Some sported Veterans for Obama buttons, while a few wore a Draft Wesley Clark shirt or button from 2004.

“I’m here to see Wes Clark,” David Smith, in one of the Clark shirts, said. “And because of the fact I’m supporting Obama.”

“It’s wonderful,” Shirley Samuel, a black woman in the audience, said of Obama’s candidacy. “It’s a blessing.”

Before and during breakfast, the crowd sipped coffee, nibbled food, discussed campaign tactics and the merits of bumper stickers and enjoyed the pleasure of being among people on the same political side.

“It’s embarrassing sitting on the beach exchanging views,” Goodspeed said. “I sit thinking ‘How can you think like that?’”

One man told Clark that this would be the first year he’d voted for a Democrat since Harry Truman in 1948.

Camille Morgan, the mother of Harbor Docks owner Charles Morgan, said the crowd that morning was a good start to changing local politics: “All those people who are afraid to say they’re for Obama, now they’ll look around and see all these other people (support Obama).”

Charles Morgan and Clark made the same point repeatedly: Talk about your politics, flaunt your political signs and bumper stickers and neighbors and coworkers will become more willing to show they agree.

“I don’t think Okaloosa is the reddest county in Florida any more,” Justin Ford, an Iraq and Kosovo veteran working with the local Obama campaign told the crowd, generating applause in response.

Clark drew plenty of applause, whether he was discussing veterans’ problems, questioning Sarah Palin’s qualifications or criticizing

Bush’s health insurance proposals and his military decisions . The only disagreement from the audience was when Clark said how much he respected John McCain’s war record: “We all like John McCain.”

“No we don’t!” someone yelled back.

Clark said respecting McCain didn’t mean supporting his candidacy: “He’s just not my top pick for president — and in this race, you’re either number one or number bottom.”

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