View Full Version : ***OFFICIAL EliteXC: "Heat" Thread***
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 09:11 PM
God i would love to sniff her panties after that fight.
I actually wanted Gina to lose, she's had the physical size advantage over every woman she's ever fought.
Dana White does so many things right but letting Arlovski walk was a massive screw up
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 09:22 PM
nelson is pretty over weight
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 09:22 PM
Little Shaky in RD 1 but he took care of business in RD 2, nice performance by the Pit-Bull, Good Show
traitoravery
10-04-2008, 09:22 PM
Or not...man Nelson looked way outta shape. AA looked great.
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 09:23 PM
Dana White does so many things right but letting Arlovski walk was a massive screw up
Why did he let him go?? Guy was and still is so young and has so much prime left
Or not...man Nelson looked way outta shape. AA looked great.
He's a LHW with a 50 lb belly.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 09:26 PM
Ninja got his ass handed to him. wow...he is so inconsistant. He needs to go back to Japan, maybe Dream??
Kobold is a staight up douche and got owned. Gina is a beast. Can't wait for Gina-Cyborg. :ihit
Nelson actually looked pretty good. The better fighter won, but I was impressed by Nelson.
EliteXC/CBS is doing perfect so far. They might have just saved themselves from dying next week..hopefully.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 09:27 PM
yup so far so good
Why did he let him go?? Guy was and still is so young and has so much prime left
Dana let his "money get mad" he said its his biggest mistake so far.
EliteXC/CBS is doing perfect so far. They might have just saved themselves from dying next week..hopefully.
They have done a fantastic job.
All it took was getting rid of Gary Shaw.............................
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 09:30 PM
Did anyone notice Kobold's gangsta chain?? :lmao
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 09:31 PM
Oh TITO please get healthy and Smash Frank Shamrock
I know you can do it
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 09:33 PM
They have done a fantastic job.
All it took was getting rid of Gary Shaw.............................
props to elite. keep it up. hopefully more of this.
Anyone notice how much of a gentleman Tito was???
even to Frank. wow...
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 09:33 PM
Go Jake!
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 09:34 PM
props to elite. keep it up. hopefully more of this.
Anyone notice how much of a gentleman Tito was???
even to Frank. wow...
Frank is such an ASS
Tito has to smash him
Shields about to tear it up
ANyone notice how big those EXC gloves are? No way are those 4-5oz gloves..those look like 7oz.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 09:41 PM
yup the elite xc gloves are pretty huge
well Seth looks loose...hahahahahaha
djohn14
10-04-2008, 09:50 PM
Semtex...you fail! Kimbo...if you fail...EliteXC fails. It would be sooo funny if Seth beat him.
timvp
10-04-2008, 10:05 PM
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:wow
How come I wasn't invited. :depressed
:wow
How come I wasn't invited. :depressed
We peaked at 280
Pistons < Spurs
10-04-2008, 10:09 PM
WOW.....that was exceptionally weak.
Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Kimbo tried a double leg take down on the ref!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Slydragon
10-04-2008, 10:11 PM
Fail photos flood gates are open
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 10:11 PM
L O L ! ! ! ! !! !
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 10:12 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
Bye Bye Kimbo, go back to the Hood and fighting Bums on the street
Seth great job Buddy well done indeed
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 10:12 PM
fucking owned
http://lizrevision.com/wp-content/uploads/royal-fail.jpg
TheTruth
10-04-2008, 10:13 PM
That was completely pathetic! A short hook knocked his ass out. PATHETIC!
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 10:13 PM
Rolling.
On.
The.
Floor.
Laughing.
My.
Ass.
Off.
I don't know much about this Seth dude, I assume he's a mediocre, slightly above mediocre MMA fighter.....irregardless, Kimbo essentially ran into a professional fighter with his chin exposed and paid the price. Now can we finally say this guy is overrated?
traitoravery
10-04-2008, 10:13 PM
OMG Kimbo you suck. Should have joined the WWE man..
TheTruth
10-04-2008, 10:13 PM
A great night of fighting though. Elite XC put on a damn good show.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 10:14 PM
Fedor vs Seth
Anti.Hero
10-04-2008, 10:15 PM
ahhsahahahahahahahahahaahhsahahahahahahahahahaahhs ahahahahahahahahahaahhsahahahahahahahahahaahhsahah ahahahahahahahaahhsahahahahahahahahahaahhsahahahah ahahahahahaahhsahahahahahahahahahaahhsahahahahahah ahahahaahhsahahahahahahahahahaahhsahahahahahahahah ahaahhsahahahahahahahahahaahhsahahahahahahahahahaa hhsahahahahahahahahahaahhsahahahahahahahahahaahhsa hahahahahahahahahaahhsahahahahahahahahahaahhsahaha hahahahahahahaahhsahahahahahahahahaha
Overall, this entire night pretty much sucked.
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 10:15 PM
Rolling.
On.
The.
Floor.
Laughing.
My.
Ass.
Off.
I don't know much about this Seth dude, I assume he's a mediocre, slightly above mediocre MMA fighter.....irregardless, Kimbo essentially ran into a professional fighter with his chin exposed and paid the price. Now can we finally say this guy is overrated?
HE was never rated period
WHen he got beat up and could not finish James Thompsons we knew he was not the real deal
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:15 PM
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
ahahaha
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rolling.
On.
The.
Floor.
Laughing.
My.
Ass.
Off.
I don't know much about this Seth dude, I assume he's a mediocre, slightly above mediocre MMA fighter.....irregardless, Kimbo essentially ran into a professional fighter with his chin exposed and paid the price. Now can we finally say this guy is overrated?
absolutely on all accounts
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:16 PM
HE was never rated period
WHen he got beat up and could not finish James Thompsons we knew he was not the real deal
100% percent correct.
HE was never rated period
mainstream media rated him pretty high....but no mma sites did
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:16 PM
hahahaha
Kimbo is in total denial.
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 10:16 PM
Yo Dallas you were Right Man
Ken was probably going to win that fight
Anti.Hero
10-04-2008, 10:18 PM
I got my ass embarrassed in front of millions of people but the after party is still on!
HOLLAH AT CHA BOI
That's the stupid part of this MMA crowd I don't like. All these fucking tapout shirts, the 20 man goon posse, the dyed hair, the lame music, court-side Hulk Hack Hogan, etc etc.
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 10:18 PM
Actually Kimbo handled this quite well. From his post fight interview he seemed to not really give a shit, because he was about to party and enjoy his pay day.
Who Gets Ko'd By A Jab!?!?!?!?!?!
Whooooooooooooooooooooooooo?!?!?!?!
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 10:19 PM
gina carano fight was the best fight of the night
Actually Kimbo handled this quite well. From his post fight interview he seemed to not really give a shit, because he was about to party and enjoy his pay day.
He walked off during an interview...sore loser
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:20 PM
Who Gets Ko'd By A Jab!?!?!?!?!?!
Whooooooooooooooooooooooooo?!?!?!?!
Anderson Silva vs Chris Leben
djohn14
10-04-2008, 10:20 PM
And there goes EliteXC!
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:20 PM
Actually Kimbo handled this quite well. From his post fight interview he seemed to not really give a shit, because he was about to party and enjoy his pay day.
He was trying to act like it didn't even happen. LOL...
Anti.Hero
10-04-2008, 10:20 PM
I almost feel dirty for giving EliteXC my ratings tonight.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:21 PM
And there goes EliteXC!
I don't think so. They put on a fantastic show.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:21 PM
I almost feel dirty for giving EliteXC my ratings tonight.
Why? I loved the show.
Anderson Silva vs Chris Leben
Oh man that was so different....Leben took so many hits
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 10:22 PM
gina carano fight was the best fight of the night
Put Gina in the main event and send Kimbo to the parking lot
He can work security or something
Anti.Hero
10-04-2008, 10:22 PM
Since I was watching T.V. and not on PC during fight, was anyone else laughing their ass off when the non-Carino lady kept staring at the camera with that goofy expression???
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 10:24 PM
It's interesting.......why are so many fans across the nation right now (been keeping up tonight with other msg boards) saying that Elite XC is finished and they are totally dependent on Kimbo?
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 10:24 PM
Since I was watching T.V. and not on PC during fight, was anyone else laughing their ass off when the non-Carino lady kept staring at the camera with that goofy expression???
it was weird
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 10:24 PM
It's interesting.......why are so many fans across the nation right now (been keeping up tonight with other msg boards) saying that Elite XC is finished and they are totally dependent on Kimbo?
he is their most popular fighter but they ain't done
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 10:25 PM
sherdog.net is frozen hahaha
It's interesting.......why are so many fans across the nation right now (been keeping up tonight with other msg boards) saying that Elite XC is finished and they are totally dependent on Kimbo?
He was there poster by by far. Everything was hinging on him now their biggest asset is a female fighter who will be picked apart in her next fight by cyborg.
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 10:26 PM
sherdog.net is frozen hahaha
Good that place is a waste anyway
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 10:26 PM
Good that place is a waste anyway
I got banned twice for posting a lot :wow
Anti.Hero
10-04-2008, 10:28 PM
I don't think I want to watch the next Gina fight.
Cyborg looks like an animal in those clips they showed (never seen her fight).
A couple busted ears and she will go from knockout to ogre :ihit:nope
I got banned twice for posting a lot :wow
:lol
welcome aboard...this place is troll free
I don't think I want to watch the next Gina fight.
Cyborg looks like an animal in those clips they showed (never seen her fight).
she's very very good. fast, decisive and strong
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:29 PM
Since I was watching T.V. and not on PC during fight, was anyone else laughing their ass off when the non-Carino lady kept staring at the camera with that goofy expression???
yes. :lmao
and her BB chain. :lmao
Anti.Hero
10-04-2008, 10:30 PM
yes. :lmao
and her BB chain. :lmao
haha yes the BB chain!
After the fight she was handed a chain and those glasses, I was like "wtf is that crazy woman about to do???"
She had a lot of heart though. I'm surprised she didn't get KO'd.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:30 PM
Good that place is a waste anyway
this is the new cool place to talk mma. if you hadnt heard...
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:31 PM
haha yes the BB chain!
After the fight she was handed a chain and those glasses, I was like "wtf is that crazy women about to do???"
the glasses were epic. :lmao
Gina still looked hot after the fight.
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 10:31 PM
Gina needs to get her ass kicked. I love her, think she's hot as hell and would wax that ass, but she needs to get kimbo'd. Then she can rebuild and come back even better.
dbreiden83080
10-04-2008, 10:31 PM
Alright i am off Gents to watch Iron Man
Been a pleasure as always :toast
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 10:32 PM
Alright i am off Gents to watch Iron Man
Been a pleasure as always :toast
peace
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:32 PM
I love how the mma forum is owning every topic on spurstalk.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 10:32 PM
Gina needs to get her ass kicked. I love her, think she's hot as hell and would wax that ass, but she needs to get kimbo'd. Then she can rebuild and come back even better.
:nope
Alright i am off Gents to watch Iron Man
Been a pleasure as always :toast
dammit...blu ray on netflix has a long wait on that...arg....
I'm off too gents....
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 10:39 PM
Man, Cyborg vs Carano is going to be the most anticipated fight for me since Foreman Holyfield II
And I am not kidding. i really am not.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:44 PM
Man, Cyborg vs Carano is going to be the most anticipated fight for me since Foreman Holyfield II
And I am not kidding. i really am not.
It should be fun indeed. I wonder if this card was enough to save EliteXC. They were close to ending last week.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:47 PM
I'm still shocked about the Ninja fight...that sucks. He has better luck in Japan. Radach hits hard. Bas wasn't kidding.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:48 PM
Mauro did much better tonight. I think for the most part, because they didn't let him talk that much.
Slydragon
10-04-2008, 10:52 PM
They were close to ending last week.
How so? I watch mma but don't really follow it much.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:54 PM
How so? I watch mma but don't really follow it much.
Not literally. But this was their last shot.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:55 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dw-kimbo100108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Anti.Hero
10-04-2008, 10:57 PM
I bet Dana was laughing his ass off.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 10:57 PM
Ok well Pro Elite (elitexc and cage rage etc) is pretty much dead following in the foot steps of every other org almost exactly. They Filed their 10Q and well in short they are fucked.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1015789/000114420408048653/0001144204-08-048653-index.htm
Here is a good summary of things from MMAPAYOUT basicaly summing up how a company given everything they needed to excell managed to complately fuck it all up.
http://mmapayout.com/2008/08/proelite-10-q/
Interesting things of note:
-Over 6 months they lost $25 million. In the quarter leading up to June 2008, they lost $18 million. this is the time when they had the big CBS show.
-They are completely fucked on the CBS deal only getting $900 grand for the May show but having to pay them $500 grand to produce it. a total loss in relation to the deal 2.3 mil so far.
This doesn't even include the Stockton show which probably lost a fucking mountain of money. God damn the MMA buisness is brutal. You don't just lose money you get bled to death. I doubt they will make it to next summer.
via suqleg
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:01 PM
EliteXC in Trouble?
There is concern that ProElite, Inc (PELE.PK) is in danger of folding. ProElite is a public company that owns EliteXC, Cage Rage, ICON, ShoXC, King of the Cage, and is a part owner of the Korean-based SpiritMC. As a public company, ProElite is regulated by the SEC and must file mandatory reports. Today, the company issued its required SEC 10-Q report, which echoes industry concerns that ProElite is in financial trouble.
Highlights of the report include:
• A net loss of $24 million for the first six months of 2008.
• Writing down the value of its Cage Rage, ICON, and KOTC fight promotions
• TV License fees for their May EXC Kimbo card from CBS of $900,000 but a $500,000 payment to CBS for production of the card.
• “The CBS distribution agreement had no future value as the likelihood of realizing gross profit on the CBS events was remote”
This follows a string of negative press for ProElite over the past few months including:
• Canceling the Cage Rage Contenders 11 card 24 hours prior to the event last week.
• Canceling the EXC show scheduled for Sept. 20 in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Strangely, this event was questionably booked into a huge 18,000 seat arena with the show to be headlined by Joey Villasenor. UFC 87 in Minneapolis only drew 15,000.
• EXC July 26 in Nick Diaz’s hometown of Stockton, California only drawing approximately 1,500 paid spectators and viewership of this event on CBS dropped over 40% from the May show that Kimbo headlined.
• The ousting of EXC front man, Gary Shaw, from the company.
• The dropping of the ProElite stock from $15.00 to $2.40 low in the past year.
The road to MMA profitability is strewn with skeletons of hopeful organizations (WFA, Pride, YAMMA, etc..) Hopefully, ProElite gets back on track because more promotions mean more fights for viewers like me and more money for the people who really deserve it – the fighters.
References:
ProElite, Inc. 10-Q form - http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1015789/000114420408048653/v124241_10q.htm
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 11:06 PM
I don't get it.....so they were already millions and millions in debt and only kimbo winning would have changed that?
I am more inclined to keep watching now that kimbo got his ass kicked. I want to see it happen again.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:07 PM
I don't get it.....so they were already millions and millions in debt and only kimbo winning would have changed that?
I am more inclined to keep watching now that kimbo got his ass kicked. I want to see it happen again.
lol the UFC is where it's at.
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 11:08 PM
So is it the end of the world for bad asses like Gina and Cyborg? Are they easily able to switch to UFC once this Elite XC shit falls under?
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:08 PM
who would have ever thought UFC would have stayed on top
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:08 PM
So is it the end of the world for bad asses like Gina and Cyborg? Are they easily able to switch to UFC once this Elite XC shit falls under?
only elitexc shows woman fighting so pretty much yes
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:09 PM
damn yakuza killing pride!
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:10 PM
So is it the end of the world for bad asses like Gina and Cyborg? Are they easily able to switch to UFC once this Elite XC shit falls under?
The UFC does not have women. I really don't know where Gina and Cyborg would go if Pro-Elite went under(they own multiple orgs including EXC). Evan or Leonard would have to answer that.
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 11:10 PM
only elitexc shows woman fighting so pretty much yes
That's fucking bull shit
MMA is fucking lame then.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:11 PM
only elitexc shows woman fighting so pretty much yes
not true.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:13 PM
not true.
well strike force too but unless you got HDNET
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:13 PM
StrikeForce has women's mma and so do some smaller shows that are not really mainstream.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:13 PM
or know a sopcast stream that doesn't crash
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:14 PM
or know how to stream muay thai from thailand you can watch woman compete
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 11:15 PM
Well I'm done watching this bull shit sport if women's fighting is done.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:15 PM
Ok so you won't have "free women's mma" if EXC goes under. But it won't be any different. The top dog orgs like the UFC and Affliction are not free anyways unless you get one on Spike or something like that.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:16 PM
Well I'm done watching this bull shit sport if women's fighting is done.
:wow
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:16 PM
Well I'm done watching this bull shit sport if women's fighting is done.
Gina and Cyborg is not going anywhere even if Pro-Elite were to die.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:18 PM
There are just not enough good women fighters right now for the UFC or another big org to add a women's division. That's why all of them are in StrikeForce and EliteXC.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:18 PM
well nothing to worry about now IF elite xc dies then worry about it
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:18 PM
michelle waterson is another chick to watch if you like woman's mma
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:21 PM
scorpion vs subzero MAKE IT HAPPEN DANA
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:22 PM
I'd really like to see the UFC add the stat tracker. I only don't like it because people try and judge the fight off that like in boxing.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:23 PM
stat tacker?
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:24 PM
I remember when UFC's website wouldn't even keep track of fighters records outside of UFC
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 11:25 PM
I'm completely addicted to watching Cyborg youtubes right now. I am an instant fan. And I think she will fucking ruin Carano's taint.
I love Gina, would fuck her brains out and think she's a bad ass.....but this Cyborg chick is just a whole nother beast.....
I would consider paying ppv money to see this if the female system was not 3 measely rounds of 3 piddlyshit minutes.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:25 PM
stat tacker?
Stats of punches and kicks thrown, ect...
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:26 PM
I'm completely addicted to watching Cyborg youtubes right now. I am an instant fan. And I think she will fucking ruin Carano's taint.
I love Gina, would fuck her brains out and think she's a bad ass.....but this Cyborg chick is just a whole nother beast.....
I would consider paying ppv money to see this if the female system was not 3 measely rounds of 3 piddlyshit minutes.
yeah i think if that fight happens it will definately be 3 five minute rounds. It will change soon and should.
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:27 PM
I'm completely addicted to watching Cyborg youtubes right now. I am an instant fan. And I think she will fucking ruin Carano's taint.
I love Gina, would fuck her brains out and think she's a bad ass.....but this Cyborg chick is just a whole nother beast.....
I would consider paying ppv money to see this if the female system was not 3 measely rounds of 3 piddlyshit minutes.
you're honestly the first person I've seen interested in woman's mma. You should have seen a show that was on Oxygen for woman's muay thai it had gina carano on it as a coach you probably would have liked it
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:28 PM
Stats of punches and kicks thrown, ect...
I C
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:29 PM
this is the only cyborg I care about in mma
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk119/richclaypoole/fedor-cyborg.jpg
LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2008, 11:30 PM
you're honestly the first person I've seen interested in woman's mma. You should have seen a show that was on Oxygen for woman's muay thai it had gina carano on it as a coach you probably would have liked it
Where do you think I first learned of Gina?
my little sister got me into the show and I actually thought it was kinda cool, then I saw this ridiculously uber hot chick that was a mentor....i had to google her...and here i am.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:31 PM
Those Affliction commercials were all over Fedor's nuts tonight every 5 seconds.
Slydragon
10-04-2008, 11:31 PM
Seth's myspace and all the good job comments
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=84137747
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:32 PM
Those Affliction commercials were all over Fedor's nuts tonight every 5 seconds.
it's all they got but I gotta :toast for it
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:32 PM
Where do you think I first learned of Gina?
Maxim?
Anti.Hero
10-04-2008, 11:32 PM
The truth is, if the women all looked like dogs no one would watch those fights.
Not enough to justify legit airtime. When Carano gets ogrefied, it will be the end of an era :depressed
BlackSwordsMan
10-04-2008, 11:33 PM
Where do you think I first learned of Gina?
my little sister got me into the show and I actually thought it was kinda cool, then I saw this ridiculously uber hot chick that was a mentor....i had to google her...and here i am.
Brandon Vera's wife was on the show
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:36 PM
I still can't believe this is the same Seth from TUF and the same guy who got his head torn of by Gouveia.
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:37 PM
The truth is, if the women all looked like dogs no one would watch those fights.
Not enough to justify legit airtime. When Carano gets ogrefied, it will be the end of an era :depressed
Did you see Couture's wife after her last fight? :wow
dallaskd
10-04-2008, 11:37 PM
Brandon Vera's wife was on the show
gorgeous.
angelbelow
10-05-2008, 12:15 AM
cant say im surprused that kimbo was knocked out.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/DarknessBDJM/Capture.jpg
LaMarcus Bryant
10-05-2008, 12:37 AM
Did you see Couture's wife after her last fight? :wow
Except that people like me think Cyborg is bad fucking ass...and I don't find her attractive in the face at all.
I can't wait to see her fight live.
oligarchy
10-05-2008, 12:38 AM
Daley is a freaking idiot. He needed to push Jake alot more in order for him to not worry as much about the takedown. I don't know what was worse -- Daley's ground game or Jake's standup.
I find it funny the excuses thrown out there for Seth's win:
Mauro: "We'll give him a mulligan because he was preparing for someone else"
And Seth wasn't? Idiotic excuse
Frank: "...if you want to beat a superstar you swing for fences and that's what Seth did"
2 front kicks and a short jab is swinging for the fences? The big punches came to end the fight, which every fighter does. Again, idiotic.
I can say production was really good this time around.
LaMarcus Bryant
10-05-2008, 01:09 AM
Just watched Couture's fight.....holy crap that chick has heart
tlongII
10-05-2008, 01:19 AM
Good card. Shitty main event. Kimbo is a fraud, but we already knew that.
Whisky Dog
10-05-2008, 01:25 AM
...Shamrock said he was upset that officials wouldn't let him fight because of a cut over his eye.
"I've had an ACL I fought through," Shamrock said. "I've had shoulders I could fight through. Now I've got a little cut - a little cut - and I can't fight? To me, I can't swallow that. It wasn't a hard workout. Nice and easy, to loosen up. It was an old cut I had, I got bumped, and at first I didn't think anything of it."
Maybe at first, but eventually, he ended up at the Cleveland Clinic, where he received about a half-dozen stitches.
"I examined him," Dr. Allan Fields said. "He certainly had sutures in place.
We have rules. Certainly anyone with a recent laceration cannot participate in a fight. He can injure his eye and start hemorrhaging."
Fields said under normal conditions, a fighter suffering a cut like Shamrock's would require 45 days to heal. However long it takes, Shamrock said, he still wants a slice of Slice.
"Everybody wants to see this fight," Shamrock said. "I wanted this fight. I will hope that they would put this together. He deserves a beating and I've like to give it to him."
In the news conference Wednesday, Shamrock promised to break Slice's leg and knock him out, yet Shamrock is 44 years old and has lost seven of his past eight fights. Slice didn't appear concerned, telling Shamrock that South Florida "is no country for old men."
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/sports/epaper/2008/10/04/a15b_mma_1005.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=46
polandprzem
10-05-2008, 06:09 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/_Luk/video/x6yvls_kimbo-slice-vs-seth-petruzelli_sport
the fight
lol at the commentary
polandprzem
10-05-2008, 06:21 AM
http://upshizzle.com/temp/gina%20towel%202.gif
http://webpages.charter.net/gline/skala-kimbo_seth-juggo.gif
http://i37.tinypic.com/e9t0ki.jpg
BlackSwordsMan
10-05-2008, 10:04 AM
yup I saw Shaw's heart break when kimbo went down
TheTruth
10-05-2008, 10:04 AM
A fucking short right hook. Pathetic.
BlackSwordsMan
10-05-2008, 10:07 AM
look at shaw yelling ''back of the head''
look at shaw yelling ''back of the head''
I know...and Kimbo didn't even get hit there....can't stand the Shaws
Rip-Hamilton32
10-05-2008, 10:19 AM
lol finally people can get off kimbos dick now
TheTruth
10-05-2008, 10:19 AM
I wonder if Kimbo had been able to take the Ref down if he could have controlled the fight on the ground.
dallaskd
10-05-2008, 10:52 AM
good interview with seth...
http://sherdog.com/videos/recent/The-Man-Who-Beat-Kimbo-1791
can't wait to hear what Dana has to say...
polandprzem
10-05-2008, 10:56 AM
lol finally people can get off kimbos dick now
http://upshizzle.com/temp/1orly-gina.gif
dallaskd
10-05-2008, 10:57 AM
What happened to Tito's big contract with the Affliction?
What happened to Tito's big contract with the Affliction?
My guess is Affliction did a physical and ran once they saw how ruined his back is.
Anti.Hero
10-05-2008, 11:29 AM
http://upshizzle.com/temp/1orly-gina.gif
Kinda creepy the dad playing along with the no clothed attention whoring.
dbreiden83080
10-05-2008, 02:31 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/_Luk/video/x6yvls_kimbo-slice-vs-seth-petruzelli_sport
the fight
lol at the commentary
LOL oh my GOD at that commentary. I was too busy clapping to hear what they were saying.
"Rocky, Rocky is here, the most incredible victory in the history of MMA" Geez guys what are you :hat
Kimbo Slice was always a side-show attraction, it is not like Fedor just got KO'd. I am thrilled that he is now done. No more Slice, at least in terms of people covering him so much. He fought a decent legit MMA fighter and he got schooled. Bye Bye Kimbo, well done Seth.
LOL oh my GOD at that commentary. I was too busy clapping to hear what they were saying.
"Rocky, Rocky is here, the most incredible victory in the history of MMA" Geez guys what are you :hat
Mauro Ranallo is almost as bad as Kornheiser..
dbreiden83080
10-05-2008, 02:45 PM
My guess is Affliction did a physical and ran once they saw how ruined his back is.
Yeah but if he has surgery he might come back better. Tito fought well against Evans, the same Evans that is getting a title shot. I think he has a few more fights in him. I really want to see him smash Frank Shamrock.
Yeah but if he has surgery he might come back better. Tito fought well against Evans, the same Evans that is getting a title shot. I think he has a few more fights in him. I really want to see him smash Frank Shamrock.
That "might" carries a massive price tag. I'm pretty sure Tito would want a piece of everything and they will want proof before they pay that tab.
This time next year Tito will have UFC on his 4.5oz gloves and will be fighting someone like Shogun or perhaps Frank. Frank can claim all he wants he hates the UFC but its only a matter of money and nothing else
dbreiden83080
10-05-2008, 02:55 PM
That "might" carries a massive price tag. I'm pretty sure Tito would want a piece of everything and they will want proof before they pay that tab.
This time next year Tito will have UFC on his 4.5oz gloves and will be fighting someone like Shogun or perhaps Frank. Frank can claim all he wants he hates the UFC but its only a matter of money and nothing else
So you think Elite-XC will still fold soon.
angelbelow
10-05-2008, 03:01 PM
http://upshizzle.com/temp/gina%20towel%202.gif
whose the chick?
Huge debt...no fake headliner to fool people with...
We'll know more Monday when we see the ratings.
People can cry about Dana all they want but pro elite will be the worst thing to ever happen to MMA since about 6 orgs will die with them.
And Gina is not a replacement for Kimbo for headline status...not many have a clue who she is...
see look...angelbelow has a good pulse on mma...never seen a comment that made me scratch my head and yet angelbelow doesn't recognize Gina Carrano.
whose the chick?
Anti.Hero
10-05-2008, 03:17 PM
lol at the father dropping the towel. Dude wants to get PAID.
angelbelow
10-05-2008, 03:21 PM
And Gina is not a replacement for Kimbo for headline status...not many have a clue who she is...
see look...angelbelow has a good pulse on mma...never seen a comment that made me scratch my head and yet angelbelow doesn't recognize Gina Carrano.
lol its true, even after you told me her name i still dont know who that is. i dont follow elitexc at all though..
lol its true, even after you told me her name i still dont know who that is. i dont follow elitexc at all though..
But you still know more about MMA than the average fan.
angelbelow
10-05-2008, 03:59 PM
But you still know more about MMA than the average fan.
ive been a fan for a while now. the organization i was most into was pride. after pride was bought out i started to follow the ufc more closely. right now im mainly an ufc guy and dont really follow any other leagues.
EliteXC: Heat Ratings
October 5, 2008
MMAPayout.com has learned EliteXC Saturday Night Fights drew 4.30 million viewers and a 1.8/ 6 among adults 18-49 from 9-11 p.m. The half hour breakdowns:
9:00 p.m. – 3.53 million viewers (#4), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#3)
9:30 p.m. – 4.48 million viewers (#3), A18-49: 1.9/ 6 (#2)
10:00 p.m. – 4.37 million viewers (#3), A18-49: 1.9/ 6 (#1)
10:30 p.m. – 4.84 million viewers (#3), A18-49: 2.2/ 7 (#1)
The 5/31 broadcast of EliteXC on CBS drew 4.3 million viewers and a 1.9/6 in the 18-49 demographic without the time over runs. The 7/26 broadcast, without Kimbo or Carano, drew 2.62 million viewers and a 1.0/3 in the 18-49 demographic from 9pm-11pm.
The household rating is not available yet, however if the numbers trend like those for the May broadcast, the rating will likely be in the 2.6-2.8 range. There were overages on last night’s card but not the large amount that boosted the final number for the May card. If there is any solace in the essentially flat numbers, they did capture the 18-49 demographic in the 10PM hour.
dallaskd
10-05-2008, 08:20 PM
CBS EXEC "VERY HAPPY" WITH EARLY ELITEXC RATINGS
Kelly Kahl, Senior Executive Vice President for CBS Primetime Television, has revealed preliminary ratings for EliteXC’s “Heat,” which took place Saturday night in Sunrise, Fla.
The ratings exclude the final 20 minutes of the broadcast, which would presumably be the most-watched portion of the evening. Final ratings for the event will not be available until Tuesday.
According to Kahl 4.3 million people tuned into the broadcast throughout the course of the evening.
Amongst male viewers in the 18-34 and 18-49 year old age brackets, “Heat” took first place with a 2.5 rating. It also took first place in the adults (men and women) 18-34 category with a 1.8 rating. In the adults 18-49 category, it tied with ABC’s broadcast of college football with 1.8 rating.
The ratings for men and women in the 18-34 and 18-49 categories were down 11 percent and four percent, respectively, from EliteXC’s CBS debut in May, the last card to feature stars Kimbo Slice and Gina Carano.
Kahl stressed the ratings were a good sign of improvement after a lackluster showing at the second CBS-televised EliteXC card in July, particular impressive for the college football and baseball playoffs they aired against.
“I think we’ve clearly bounced back and we’re very happy,” he said.
The executive also addressed the many surprises of the evening, wanted and unwanted.
“In terms of Shamrock, that was a situation really out of our control,” Kahl continued. “We did what a professional organization would do. We got another quality fighter in the ring with Kimbo. We didn’t want to disappoint the audiences on television or in the arena. And we obviously put a good fighter in there. In terms of the surprising outcome, that’s just the fight game. Kimbo was a man for stepping up and taking the fight, and Petruzelli was a stud for taking it too. At the end of the day, we promised Kimbo Slice and we delivered Kimbo Slice.”
Kahl said there was no reason CBS wouldn’t broadcast a fourth EliteXC show.
“Our contract calls for four shows. We’ve said all along we’re planning to do four shows, and there’s nothing in these numbers that would suggest we won’t.”
In the hours after the show, critics were already proclaiming EliteXC’s doom. Kahl says the promotion’s detractors do not see the big picture.
“EliteXC is bigger than Kimbo Slice,” he said. “We’ve always anticipated that Kimbo Slice could take a loss someday. All MMA fighters do. They don’t have a grasp of the things that might be going on right now.”
Though it did not eclipse EliteXC’s CBS debut, Kahl is confident that the company’s plans to sign more talent, including former UFC light heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz, will make yesterday’s ratings more commonplace.
“It’s looking like the night is going to tuck into slightly behind the May card, but I think it’s hopefully more representative of the cards that we would do moving forward. Recognizing that there was a lot of hype around the first one, that the second was kind of an anomaly, because we did it in July when we weren’t able to support it as well with our CBS promotion. So I like to think this is the number we can look at going forward, which is a very solid, very sustainable number.”
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=7282&zoneid=2
BlackSwordsMan
10-05-2008, 08:32 PM
5 million people saw kimbo get his shit pushed in
Kimbo Slice got back in the ring last night for CBS’s EliteXC Saturday Night Fights and got pounded in the ring, losing to Seth Petruzelli in 15 seconds, and to Fox’s America’s Most Wanted in the ratings by 1.62 million viewers and 0.2 adults 18-49 demo ratings points. That’s exactly the same overnight viewership for Kimbo Slice from his bout on May 31, and just a tick down from the demo, but America’s Most Wanted was even stronger than it was on May 31.
...
9:00pm FOX America's Most Wanted 5.92 2.0/7
CBS EliteXC Saturday Night Fights 4.30 1.8/6
Slydragon
10-06-2008, 02:16 AM
http://webpages.charter.net/gline/skala-kimbo_seth-juggo.gif
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/65357-jared-shaw-once-again-embarrasses-himself-on-cbs
I have never put much thought into the back and forth banter that exists between Jared Shaw and Dana White. Quite frankly, as promoters, their job is to promote their respective business and put asses in the seats. P.T. Barnum, perhaps the most well known promoter of all time was never shy when he claimed his primary goal was to "put money in his own coffers." Jared and Dana are no different in this regard.
Dana White is often criticized for underpaying his fighters, being outspoken, and downright cocky. Another thing Dana White is an unbiased observer at ringside, understanding that any fight, even a lopsided match up carries a human element in which anything can and will happen.
Some outcomes will surely benefit the organization better than others but as the promoter Dana never shows any favoritism while sitting ringside. It is safe to assume that while watching a Brock Lesnar fight, Dana is internally pulling for him, as he knows promoting Brock would bring countless rewards, but he wears his poker face regardless.
This brings me to Jared Shaw. In his first CBS main event, Kimbo was in trouble on the ground and while the punches from James Thompson were not doing much damage, there was action and Thompson did continue his assault. As the soft punches rained down, Jared Shaw could be seen at ringside, yelling hysterically at the referee to “stand the fight up” knowing Kimbo could not possibly win if the fight stayed on the ground.
Last night in the main event Seth Petruzelli had Kimbo in trouble immediately and again we have Jared Shaw in clear view at ringside yelling hysterically at the referee, complaining about blows to the back of the head.
If a promoter wants to bring a fighter along slow and make matches that play to his strengths there is not much we as the viewing public can do short of refusing to watch.
Jared Shaw sees the financial upside to Kimbo Slice continuing to win and this is no different than Dana White’s view of Brock Lesnar. This is however where the comparisons stop. While Dana sits at ringside in an unbiased manner, Shaw has now twice shown an over the top reaction to Kimbo being in trouble, going so far on both occasions to hysterically yell at the referee.
This public reaction is extreme favoritism at best, while trying to influence the actions of a referee is unethical and borderline illegal under most state athletic commission rules and should not be allowed to continue.
If Jared Shaw cannot control his favoritism and emotions he should watch Kimbo’s fights from the dressing room. In doing so, he will save himself the embarrassment of the inevitable slow motion replays showing him yelling hysterically at the referee.
LaMarcus Bryant
10-06-2008, 02:21 AM
Ehhh anyone who doesn't know gina carano obviously hasn't jacked off to the best.
BTW, kinda off topic, but how the hell do ratings stats know what age watched the damn television. Always wondered that.
LaMarcus Bryant
10-06-2008, 03:00 AM
Is that Hulk Hogan and his big saggy tittied daughter on the left of this Jared guy in that .gif?
Is that Hulk Hogan and his big saggy tittied daughter on the left of this Jared guy in that .gif?
Um......disturbingly....thats not his daughter. Thats his girlfriend that looks exactly like his daughter.
creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy
ATRAIN
10-06-2008, 07:45 AM
Wow this place was busy this weekend. Im kind of glad I wasnt around though since Lamarcus Bryant was posting in here.
desflood
10-06-2008, 11:38 AM
She was on the rag in this pic...she had trouble making weight because she was bloated.
Hows that for a wiener buzz kill.
and yes I am an ass for pointing that out. :lol
I've been holding something back about this for a while - I don't care what excuse she gave for having trouble making weight. Chicks on their period do NOT wear white shorts. I call shens.
ATRAIN
10-06-2008, 11:42 AM
I've been holding something back about this for a while - I don't care what excuse she gave for having trouble making weight. Chicks on their period do NOT wear white shorts. I call shens.
Do chicks on their period weigh more? Can that be a good excuse?
I've been holding something back about this for a while - I don't care what excuse she gave for having trouble making weight. Chicks on their period do NOT wear white shorts. I call shens.
um........er uh...........yeah true. What if it was on the last day?
I'm so far out of bounds here I need to stop talking.......
But considering every time she has problems making weight I am inclined to agree this whole thing is BS.
Do chicks on their period weigh more? Can that be a good excuse?
water retention holmes
ATRAIN
10-06-2008, 11:52 AM
um........er uh...........yeah true. What if it was on the last day?
I'm so far out of bounds here I need to stop talking.......
But considering every time she has problems making weight I am inclined to agree this whole thing is BS.
water retention holmes
Well ok but she could have still cut weight. Its ok I still love her.
.........and borderline illegal under most state athletic commission rules and should not be allowed to continue. .
I did not know that. Interesting.
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 11:56 AM
wiener buzz kill
LEONARD
10-06-2008, 12:00 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/26290/thumbnail_crop_php_medium.jpg
:lol
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 12:05 PM
I always found it weird that fighters painted their nails kimbo had his painted that night and so did seth
LEONARD
10-06-2008, 12:07 PM
Seth on Orlando radio the next day...skip to about 10:30...Seth says that EliteXC offered him more money to stand and trade punches... :o
http://monsters.fm/pages/monsters_media.html?feed=246187&article=4355604
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 12:08 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/26290/thumbnail_crop_php_medium.jpg
:lol
:lmao:lmao
That's as good as Kimbo looked all night. Nice form on the Double Leg there Buddy :hat
ATRAIN
10-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Seth on Orlando radio the next day...skip to about 10:30...Seth says that EliteXC offered him more money to stand and trade punches... :o
http://monsters.fm/pages/monsters_media.html?feed=246187&article=4355604
LMAO they wanted Kimbo to win, talk about your backfire!!
Seth on Orlando radio the next day...skip to about 10:30...Seth says that EliteXC offered him more money to stand and trade punches... :o
http://monsters.fm/pages/monsters_media.html?feed=246187&article=4355604
That is as shady as it gets. If thats true then I truly want EXC to go under...
you have to be kidding me..............
ATRAIN
10-06-2008, 12:15 PM
That is as shady as it gets. If thats true then I truly want EXC to go under...
you have to be kidding me..............
Yeah man you should go back and look at ringside reactions LMAO it was PRICELESS!!
Can that be legal? Can't be
Yeah man you should go back and look at ringside reactions LMAO it was PRICELESS!!
I've seen it...I rewound it in glorious HD a few times but...you can't dictate how a fighter approaches a fight...that's fight fixing.
Thats exactly what PRIDE did with Rampage.
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 12:18 PM
badass he got more money for doing what they told him and he still won
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 12:25 PM
One thing i find so funny about that fight is there was no feeling out process. Bas Ruten his trainer, did he really tell Kimbo to just "bum rush Seth like that", looking for an early big right hand?? They knew very little about this guy they were fighting yet Kimbo just looked to finish him fast. Why not stand back, make him come to you, see what he is offering. Terrible stragedy on his part.
LEONARD
10-06-2008, 12:29 PM
Skala says Kimbo didn't get any extra money for taking the fight...
Frank says him vs ken in April, then Tito...then Cung again...
ATRAIN
10-06-2008, 12:29 PM
I've seen it...I rewound it in glorious HD a few times but...you can't dictate how a fighter approaches a fight...that's fight fixing.
Thats exactly what PRIDE did with Rampage.
Well one thing I noticed is that EXC refs step in really fast and call fights, this ref waited a while and you could tell he didnt want to stop the fight but he had too hahaha.
ATRAIN
10-06-2008, 12:30 PM
Skala says Kimbo didn't get any extra money for taking the fight...
Frank says him vs ken in April, then Tito...then Cung again...
Do you think that will happen?
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 12:32 PM
Skala says Kimbo didn't get any extra money for taking the fight...
Frank says him vs ken in April, then Tito...then Cung again...
ME'
"On my hands and friggin knees begging Tito to beat the hell out of Frank"
He has to own the other Shamrock and avenge that loss from years ago
Do you think that will happen?
First time I read Frank saying that figth would happen was like 3 years ago in Real Fighter (I think.) He has claimed so many times that fight is close and of course he wants it…it’s a lay up W. But I am not sure Cung will be around in 3 fights and I still think Tito will be back in the UFC before too long even if he gets a fight or two outside the UFC.
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 12:35 PM
First time I read Frank saying that figth would happen was like 3 years ago in Real Fighter (I think.) He has claimed so many times that fight is close and of course he wants it…it’s a lay up W. But I am not sure Cung will be around in 3 fights and I still think Tito will be back in the UFC before too long even if he gets a fight or two outside the UFC.
Well Tito needs surgery on his back though right?
So he'd be out for maybe 4 or 5 months rehabbing. I'd like to see him get the surgery, get as healthy as he can and then fight Frank Shamrock. Hopefully Elite-XC is still around by then to make it happen.
Well Tito needs surgery on his back though right?
So he'd be out for maybe 4 or 5 months rehabbing. I'd like to see him get the surgery, get as healthy as he can and then fight Frank Shamrock. Hopefully Elite-XC is still around by then to make it happen.
That’s what I think I heard on the broadcast….but I haven't heard anyone else mention that so as of now I am wondering if I heard that right
LEONARD
10-06-2008, 12:42 PM
That’s what I think I heard on the broadcast….but I haven't heard anyone else mention that so as of now I am wondering if I heard that right
It's right...just watched Tito interview on mmarated.com. He's out 6 months.
LEONARD
10-06-2008, 12:43 PM
Cybrog will smoke Gina...book it...
ATRAIN
10-06-2008, 12:48 PM
Cybrog will smoke Gina...book it...
Yeah I agree, Cyborg is more aggressive.
It's right...just watched Tito interview on mmarated.com. He's out 6 months.
thanks
Shaw speaks
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/06/elitexc-vice-president-jared-shaw-comments-on-reaction-towards-referee-after-slice-vs-petruzelli-fight-his-feelings-about-shamrocks-cut-and-more-in-new-interview/
Sam Kinda let him off the hook here IMO.
ATRAIN
10-06-2008, 12:55 PM
Will we see more Affliction fighters at the EXC events or was AA just a one time thing. It was nice to see Andre kick some ass. Man I need to find that pic, I checked on out of 3 pc's ill keep looking and send it over to Evan, Des, and KD.
Moving on from Kimbo…
How about Ninja? What in the world was that?
LEONARD
10-06-2008, 01:54 PM
Ninja showed a great chin...he should've been down in the 1st. I thought it was over a couple times...
Radach is very under-rated...Ninja just isn't very consistent...will always put on an entertaining fight though and will fight anybody at any weight (or at least he used to).
MAIN EVENT FIGHTERS
– Seth Petruzelli ($50,000/win bonus was $15,000) def. Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson ($500,000/win bonus would have been $100,000)
MAIN CARD FIGHTERS
– Jake Shields ($50,000/win bonus was $10,000) def. Paul Daley ($12,000)
– Andre Arlovski ($500,000) def. Roy Nelson ($80,000)
– Gina Carano ($25,000/win bonus was $10,000) def. Kelly Kobald-Gavin ($6,000)
– Benji Radach ($30,000/win bonus was $15,000) def. Murilo Rua ($35,000)
PRELIMINARY CARD FIGHTERS
– Cristiane Santos ($8,000/win bonus was $4,000) def. Yoko Takahashi ($2,000)
– Conor Heun ($5,000/win bonus was $2,500) def. Edson Berto ($5,000)
– Mikey Gomez ($4,000/win bonus was $2,000) def. Lorenzo Borgomeo ($1,500)
-- Nicolae Curry ($1,500/win bonus was $750) def. Jorge Boechat ($1,000)
ELITE XC “HEAT” DISCLOSED FIGHTER PAYROLL: $ 1,316,000
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 03:22 PM
MAIN EVENT FIGHTERS
– Seth Petruzelli ($50,000/win bonus was $15,000) def. Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson ($500,000/win bonus would have been $100,000)
MAIN CARD FIGHTERS
– Jake Shields ($50,000/win bonus was $10,000) def. Paul Daley ($12,000)
– Andre Arlovski ($500,000) def. Roy Nelson ($80,000)
– Gina Carano ($25,000/win bonus was $10,000) def. Kelly Kobald-Gavin ($6,000)
– Benji Radach ($30,000/win bonus was $15,000) def. Murilo Rua ($35,000)
PRELIMINARY CARD FIGHTERS
– Cristiane Santos ($8,000/win bonus was $4,000) def. Yoko Takahashi ($2,000)
– Conor Heun ($5,000/win bonus was $2,500) def. Edson Berto ($5,000)
– Mikey Gomez ($4,000/win bonus was $2,000) def. Lorenzo Borgomeo ($1,500)
-- Nicolae Curry ($1,500/win bonus was $750) def. Jorge Boechat ($1,000)
ELITE XC “HEAT” DISCLOSED FIGHTER PAYROLL: $ 1,316,000
WOW
Andre Got 500 Grand. They are going to have to pay Tito probably that and a bonus if they want him to sign. Kimbo getting 500 grand that is hilarious. He likely has one more fight and that's it. Everyone knows he is a fraud now.
Maybe Andre walking on the UFC was good for him in the short term. He'd never make that in the UFC right now.
djohn14
10-06-2008, 03:25 PM
Kimbo got Liddell money. Its so sad.
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 03:26 PM
Kimbo got Liddell money. Its so sad.
So did Andre though, good for him
UFC he'd maybe make 100 grand before bonuses.
AA got paid PPV percentage and a signing bonus from the UFC so just looking at his day of pay per fight is not the entire story
Also, Affliction paid the salaries for AA / Roy
Kimbo got a big bump in pay for a new opponant.
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 04:04 PM
wow kimbo made a shit load of fucking money
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 04:05 PM
at least seth got 65 g's and a upcoming elite xc contract not bad for a guy who was chilling at his house doing nothing prior to all of this
LEONARD
10-06-2008, 04:46 PM
at least seth got 65 g's and a upcoming elite xc contract not bad for a guy who was chilling at his house doing nothing prior to all of this
He was on the undercard, so he was fighting anyway...I'm sure he made about 4x as much as the main event though...
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 04:50 PM
He was on the undercard, so he was fighting anyway...I'm sure he made about 4x as much as the main event though...
werd didn't know
djohn14
10-06-2008, 04:52 PM
So did Andre though, good for him
UFC he'd maybe make 100 grand before bonuses.
I know, and Im happy of Arlovski. He did it the right way.
Anti.Hero
10-06-2008, 05:20 PM
Where is the aggressiveness from AA nowadays. Dude has a crazy 6'4 frame and just lets his opponents tire out.
Where is the aggressiveness from AA nowadays. Dude has a crazy 6'4 frame and just lets his opponents tire out.
He's scared to lose instead of going balls out. But...he's looking better recently.
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 06:30 PM
He's scared to lose instead of going balls out. But...he's looking better recently.
Andre's only flaw is he does not have a great Chin. It's not weak but it isn't granite either. I think he has been wary of it since the 2nd Sylvia fight
djohn14
10-06-2008, 06:50 PM
Ha, check this out...
Seth Petruzelli created quite a stir following his improbable 14-second TKO against Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson during this past weekend’s Saturday Night Fights on CBS. He also added to the controversy following an interview during an interview on 104.1 FM in Orlando with the Monsters morning show.
When asked by one of the show’s hosts whether he was concerned by Slice’s standup skills and wanted to focus on getting the fight to the ground, Petruzelli indicated that he wanted to keep it standing. However, he also phrased his answer in a way that left many wondering whether EliteXC officials had offered him a bonus to keep the fight standing as opposed to taking it to the ground.
“… I knew I would do alright standing up with him,” Petruzelli said during the radio interview. “The promoters kind of hinted to me, and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him. They didn’t want me to take him down, let’s just put it that way.”
Upon being contacted by FiveOuncesOfPain.com for a followup, Petruzelli indicated that he felt his words during the 104.1 FM interview are being twisted and he categorically denied accusations that EliteXC somehow tried to influence his strategy through financial considerations.
“What was meant to be said was that I wanted to keep the fight standing for myself because I knew that was what the crowd, the promoters, and everyone wanted to see because that’s more exciting than just taking someone to the ground,” Petruzelli said. “That was my thing only. I wanted to keep it exciting so I decided to keep it standing. It had nothing to do with anybody else. That was all me.”
Upon being asked directly whether EliteXC officials had even hinted that he could receive a bonus by keeping the fight standing, Petruzelli clarified that no such act had taken place.
“No,” he responded. “Look, even the UFC gives knockout bonuses. Everyone gives knockout bonuses. There’s knockout bonuses, submission bonuses, all sorts of bonuses. I just wanted to keep it standing because I felt I could beat (Kimbo) at his own game.”
BS....they called him and told him to SFTU
dallaskd
10-06-2008, 07:23 PM
Seth on Orlando radio the next day...skip to about 10:30...Seth says that EliteXC offered him more money to stand and trade punches... :o
http://monsters.fm/pages/monsters_media.html?feed=246187&article=4355604
:lmao
that's bad...I wish total failure on the Shaws and all of EliteXC.
angelbelow
10-06-2008, 07:24 PM
i was watching espn's take on the kimbo fight and they called kimbo a joke. but they went ahead and called the sport a joke too. (this was on that show with the 4 different commentators and that one guy can mute them.)
Petruzelli also claimed he was paid in the six figure range to keep it standing, but his disclosed purse was only $50,000. So unless he is lying, and there's no reason to believe he is, he was paid an additional bonus to fight in a way that gave their star the best chance of winning.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/10/6/629656/fans-must-demand-an-invest
i was watching espn's take on the kimbo fight and they called kimbo a joke. but they went ahead and called the sport a joke too. (this was on that show with the 4 different commentators and that one guy can mute them.)
Another reason why MMA fans get sp upset at the Kimbo issue. Again...this is like the media embracing And1 players while ignoring the NBA.
dallaskd
10-06-2008, 07:28 PM
So what is next for Kimbo? Feed him a scrub?? and is he even marketable anymore??
who knows....they have a MASSIVE mess on their hands. With the above quotes its pretty clear they are tampering with the outcome of fights.
angelbelow
10-06-2008, 07:48 PM
Another reason why MMA fans get sp upset at the Kimbo issue. Again...this is like the media embracing And1 players while ignoring the NBA.
the worst part was that they used phrases like "popular mma fighter" and "one of the best" when describing kimbo. they were bashing the kimbo fight and then comparing the fights impact to the mma like it was fedor vs couture. most basketball fans can agree that espn is trash but it appears their retardness beyond basketball.
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 08:53 PM
i was watching espn's take on the kimbo fight and they called kimbo a joke. but they went ahead and called the sport a joke too. (this was on that show with the 4 different commentators and that one guy can mute them.)
Do any of these guys at ESPN ever watch a UFC event? I mean seriously, did they not see a min of UFC 87 or UFC 84, how about UFC 83? Great events from world class MMA fighters. What does Kimbo and that shitty fight have to do with our sport as a whole for shit's sake?
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 08:56 PM
So what is next for Kimbo? Feed him a scrub?? and is he even marketable anymore??
They'll try and re-do the Shamrock fiight i'm sure. I don't see what the hell he can do, to make anyone care to see him fight anymore. He is not legit, period...
dallaskd
10-06-2008, 08:57 PM
They don't know anything. Hopefully now we can move past Kimbo and focus on top fighters again and mainly the UFC. I could really care less what happens to EliteXC. I hope Pro-Elite lives but I don't care much about EXC. No way can they afford Tito and if they pay him that will be the death of them.
dallaskd
10-06-2008, 08:58 PM
They'll try and re-do the Shamrock fiight i'm sure. I don't see what the hell he can do, to make anyone care to see him fight anymore. He is not legit, period...
Now that he has been exposed, even average joe doesn't care about him. Which is good. I actually wouldn't mind him in Cage Rage or a smaller show. He would fit well in some Japanese freak shows.
Do any of these guys at ESPN ever watch a UFC event? I mean seriously, did they not see a min of UFC 87 or UFC 84, how about UFC 83? Great events from world class MMA fighters. What does Kimbo and that shitty fight have to do with our sport as a whole for shit's sake?
:toast :toast :toast :toast
Which is why I keep comparing this to the sports media ignoring the NBA and focusing on some dude in and1.
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 09:15 PM
i was watching espn's take on the kimbo fight and they called kimbo a joke. but they went ahead and called the sport a joke too. (this was on that show with the 4 different commentators and that one guy can mute them.)
Yup ESPN hates MMA. I honestly don't know why maybe it's because they are a bunch of boxing fans and blame MMA for it's decline? Who knows but a majority of the panelists on around the horn the show you watched hate it. They call it human cock fighting, PTI the show after call it a bunch of blood hungry gladiators.
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 09:16 PM
They'll try and re-do the Shamrock fiight i'm sure. I don't see what the hell he can do, to make anyone care to see him fight anymore. He is not legit, period...
I think Frank is next
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 09:17 PM
They don't know anything. Hopefully now we can move past Kimbo and focus on top fighters again and mainly the UFC. I could really care less what happens to EliteXC.
I don't care much for Elite-XC either. Some of their fighters i like but the shows they have put on have been pretty poor.
And YES can we move on past Kimbo here?? We got Huge Fights coming in the next few months. Randy and Brock, Forrest and Rashad, Wandy and Page, Nog and Mir, GSP and Penn 2. Enough about fucking Kimbo, pay attention to what is really going on in MMA, ESPN and the rest of the media.
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 09:22 PM
They call it human cock fighting, PTI the show after call it a bunch of blood hungry gladiators.
Well my problem with some of these guys that piss all over it at ESPN, i really don't think they know much of anything about it. That is why i was asking about all the great UFC events the last 6 months. If they had seen any of them, i doubt we would be hearing this nonsense about the sport being garbage. MMA is huge now and it is only getting bigger. If these morons at ESPN are expecting it to go away, it isn't.
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 09:24 PM
Well my problem with some of these guys that piss all over it at ESPN, i really don't think they know much of anything about it. That is why i was asking about all the great UFC events the last 6 months. If they had seen any of them, i doubt we would be hearing this nonsense about the sport being garbage. MMA is huge now and it is only getting bigger. If these morons at ESPN are expecting it to go away, it isn't.
Yes some of them do. Well Jay Mariotti only saw the Kimbo VS JT fight and was disgusted by something I don't think it was the ear popping I forgot and said he would never watch MMA again.
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 09:34 PM
Yes some of them do. Well Jay Mariotti only saw the Kimbo VS JT fight and was disgusted by something I don't think it was the ear popping I forgot and said he would never watch MMA again.
Which is why the ignorance annoys me and Kimbo getting all this pub annoyed me. Imagine if GSP vs Fitch was seen this past Sat on CBS?? The reaction for the fight would have been probably stellar throughout the media. But no we got freak-show Kimbo, getting attention and dragging our sport down. :bang
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 09:37 PM
Yo
BlackSwordsMan, i can't get over your Avvy man
That shit is hilarious :lol
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 09:40 PM
Yo
BlackSwordsMan, i can't get over your Avvy man
That shit is hilarious :lol
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2537043516_488e38d304.jpg
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 09:40 PM
this is how fedor drew wanderlei
http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/fedor-emelianenko-drawing-4-150x150.jpg
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 09:47 PM
You've never seen Fedor's drawings?
http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/fedor-emelianenko-drawing-8.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Poseidonthc/FedorsDrawing8.jpg
http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/fedor-emelianenko-drawing-1-150x150.jpg
http://ninjashoes.net/forum/imagehosting/84246181ca9767fe.jpg
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 09:48 PM
http://ninjashoes.net/forum/imagehosting/84246181c8add0fa.jpg
http://ninjashoes.net/forum/imagehosting/84246181c8ab1681.jpg
http://ninjashoes.net/forum/imagehosting/84246181c4c23117.jpg
+ the wanderlei one
Never!!! I have seen one of his paintings but never a cartoon.
EXC Getting hit hard for shadiness.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/10/6/629656/fans-must-demand-an-invest
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 09:52 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2537043516_488e38d304.jpg
:lmao:lmao:lmao
Now more than ever i am convinced Fedor has no clue Dana White talks shit about him. He is about the most un-intimidating guy outside the ring and the last guy you want to fuck with in the ring.
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 09:54 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao
Now more than ever i am convinced Fedor has no clue Dana White talks shit about him. He is about the most un-intimidating guy outside the ring and the last guy you want to fuck with in the ring.
http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fedor-emelianenko-1.jpg
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 09:55 PM
Never!!! I have seen one of his paintings but never a cartoon.
EXC Getting hit hard for shadiness.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/10/6/629656/fans-must-demand-an-invest
Damn seth totally changed his story around. From saying he got paid to keep it standing now he's saying ''What I meant to say was that IF we kept standing I might get a KO bonus'' :bang
dbreiden83080
10-06-2008, 09:59 PM
http://www.mmaroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fedor-emelianenko-1.jpg
LOL, somebody get me Fedor's number. I'd like to take that man out for an Ice-Cream Sundae :hat
BlackSwordsMan
10-06-2008, 10:01 PM
last fedor pic; this is the best photoshop I've seen of a mma fighter
http://danawhitesucks.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/super-fedor.jpg
LOL, somebody get me Fedor's number. I'd like to take that man out for an Ice-Cream Sundae :hat
Have you ever seen his naked sauna pics with the 4 or 5 other guys?
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuny.
Nothing gay about it...Americans have such a different view on nudity but its funny.
angelbelow
10-07-2008, 12:26 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2537043516_488e38d304.jpg
HAHAHHAHHHHAHAHA. good shit!
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