Official Mavs-Rockets Game Thread

[MavDynasty]

Get dick breath in there quick!!!! he is amazing clutch player who can make 3s when his team is going to lose!

[tlongII]

Rockets look damn good.

[turiaf for president]

It's his fault. let it go. Good foul by J-ho and Yao bumped him with his chst after.

please. anyone else runs up to seperate those two its not a tech,. but cuz its ron ron, tech. BS

[Indazone]

that Brooks dude is easily the new fastest player in the nba


Yeah he might even be faster than Iverson. Guys cannot stay in front of him.

[dirk4mvp]

Good shit Artest you just won the game, I can respect that. Findog was right when he said the sadness began today


Are you gonna log into your The_NBA_is_rigged screen name and post some thoughts?

[Allanon]

u r surprised?

Yah, 1st game, at home, Rockets on the 2nd of a back to back. This game was close until just a couple of minutes ago.

Lucky I didn't get vBookie in on this one.

[sook]

please. anyone else runs up to seperate those two its not a tech,. but cuz its ron ron, tech. BS

exactly bro, he did what he's supposed to do get his big man under control

[Lakers_55]

They're all owned by corporations and the tickets go unused.

thanks. those corporations could earn some excellent goodwill publicity if they donated the unused tickets to the local Dallas schools...

[Allanon]

lakers shoulda dumped odom for artest and thomas.

Yah, I really like Odom but I woulda done that trade in a second.

[tlongII]

Yeah he might even be faster than Iverson. Guys cannot stay in front of him.

I saw Brooks play for 3 years for the Ducks. I knew he'd be a great NBA player.

[Indazone]

I predict Alston to continue running the first unit but...I predict his minutes to be cut if Brooks keeps playing like this.

[dallaskd]

Artest is blowing it.

[turiaf for president]

pass the ball to the trailer, freakin stuey headed terry!

[dirk4mvp]

Why didn't Terry dump it off to Bass?

[Allanon]

Brooks should be running the point, not Artest.

[sook]

k dumb move by artest let the PG run it.

[dallaskd]

pass the ball to the trailer, freakin stuey headed terry!

exactly. could've been an easy dunk.

[Indazone]

Artest running the offense hahaha. Artest the Point Guard.

[Allanon]

Some pressure free throws for Terry.

[turiaf for president]

Artest is blowing it.

naw i think its the mavs blew it. 2 point game with 4 minutes left and now its double digets

[nsrammstein]

Mavs fans should vote for Obama if they want to see change!!

[robbie380]

brooks has had a great game but they need to get rafer in. i like his ability to control the ball and slow things down here. brooks still worries me about turnovers and we don't need that late in the game. even though alston sucks he does a nice job of taking care of the ball.

[Indazone]

It'll be a good game when the Rockets meet the Lakers!

[Allanon]

It'll be a good game when the Rockets meet the Lakers!

Can't wait.

[angelbelow]

damn mller sucks

[hater]

shit. Brooks is a blur. Is there something wrong with my tv?

[Indazone]

10 pt lead..why is Yao playing?

[turiaf for president]

as the great late chick hearn would say......this games int he refridgerator

[angelbelow]

WOW! now that was impressive.

[tlongII]

Brooks!

[turiaf for president]

terry with another horrible shot

[Allanon]

Damn, Brooks is fast.

[Banzai]

It'll be a good game when the Rockets meet the Lakers!
hopefully.

[hater]

Jason Terry got owned

[sook]

holyshit aaron seems to have gotten the feel of the NBA

[Reck]

Alright..next game...

Well played Rockets. One loss of many for the hack mavs.

[Allanon]

Terry's no longer the Jet when he's on the floor with Brooks.

[turiaf for president]

damn rockets look solid. way better than last nite. hope they stay healthy, its gonna be a fun season =D

[Indazone]

Last year Brooks looked lost out there. I think he's figured out the NBA game. Couldn't finish anything last year...it was the Aaron Brooks brick show. Now..not so much. His speed with his shot making ability is going to make for an unbelievable point guard.

[sook]

damn rockets look solid. way better than last nite. hope they stay healthy, its gonna be a fun season =D

hell ya, hopefully our offense will become as smooth as yours...hopefully..
but our shitty D is really pissing me off atm.

Battier needs to be back asap

[MavDynasty]

*sigh*

[tlongII]

Brooks was unbelievable at Oregon. Won a Pac-10 championship pretty much by himself.

[sook]

*sigh*

*sigh* is right :toast

[Reck]

Last year Brooks looked lost out there. I think he's figured out the NBA game. Couldn't finish anything last year...it was the Aaron Brooks brick show. Now..not so much. His speed with his shot making ability is going to make for an unbelievable point guard.

That is what we call confidence. :downspin:

[hater]

I guess its time to get a new tv. I saw a red blur

[sook]

Brooks was unbelievable at Oregon. Won a Pac-10 championship pretty much by himself.

yea i saw his college vids and i was real high on him

[Indazone]

damn..Brooks owns Terry

[angelbelow]

*sigh*

i know right, reggie miller sucks.

[turiaf for president]

LOL@Terry fail at teh buzzer

[dirk4mvp]

well, that was midly depressing.

[MavDynasty]

LOL@Terry fail at teh buzzer

lol at mavericks sucking dick but i still root for them

[Indazone]

Everything was good except for that 3rd qtr collapse. I still think Yao is playing too many minutes to stay healthy for the season. Yao should be staying about 34-36 min a game.

[Kai]

i know right, reggie miller sucks.

Did you catch the office tonight? I'm about to download it.

[turiaf for president]

^ its gonna be along season. i think the rockets spurs and hornets are all ahead of the mavs

[hater]

^ its gonna be along season. i think the rockets spurs and hornets are all ahead of the mavs


one of those 3 + lakers will be West champ. suns are ok but Shaq can't keep this up for an entire season.

[benefactor]

Artest and the Rockets looked good. Their depth is going to give teams fits. TMac was nothing more than a cheerleader down the stretch and they owned the Mavs anyway. If the Rockets are healthy going into the playoffs and they stay healthy throughout they will be your '08-'09 NBA Champions.

[nsrammstein]

Rockets needed a Jordanesque game from Brooks and a Larry Bird lilke shooting performance from Artest in order to beat the mavs. Having said that I hope a ceiling fan falls on Ron Artest while he sleeps.

[MavDynasty]

Lakers>hornets>rox,jazz>Spurs>suns>>>>>mavs.

o how the might have fallen

[TheMadHatter]

Artest and the Rockets looked good. Their depth is going to give teams fits. TMac was nothing more than a cheerleader down the stretch and they owned the Mavs anyway. If the Rockets are healthy going into the playoffs and they stay healthy throughout they will be your '08-'09 NBA Champions.

No.

Give me a healthy Spurs team over the Rockets any day of the week. And there is no way this team beats the Lakers in a seven game series.

[15 RINGS BITCH]

the rockets are gonna be tough this year.

at least until tmac gets an ingrown toenail and yao jams his pinky and they each miss 30 games over it.

maybe artest can inject some much lacked toughness into that team.

then again i doubt it, this was against the mavs after all.

[sook]

Artest and the Rockets looked good. Their depth is going to give teams fits. TMac was nothing more than a cheerleader down the stretch and they owned the Mavs anyway. If the Rockets are healthy going into the playoffs and they stay healthy throughout they will be your '08-'09 NBA Champions.

even though i did cuss tmac out during this game, he is injured and he alone can win us 55 games so i understand why coach was giving him rest.


It was also smart on adelman b.c that artest,brooks,yao,barry,chuck unit was manhandling the mavs every time they were in. Tmac + battier usually mesh well so we will see more of that when they come back

[GuerillaBlack]

Rockets needed a Jordanesque game from Brooks and a Larry Bird lilke shooting performance from Artest in order to beat the mavs. Having said that I hope a ceiling fan falls on Ron Artest while he sleeps.

Well, the same was needed from the Mavs. Dirk and Howard had to go off in order for the Mavs to win, because you had no bench.

[sook]

No.

Give me a healthy Spurs team over the Rockets any day of the week. And there is no way this team beats the Lakers in a seven game series.

in a head to head matchup the rockets were already better than the lakers.


Overall the Lakers are the better team though.


Have you still forgotten that ass rape on the 22nd win by tmac + scrubs?


The Lakers don't do well against good defensive teams, just wait till Shane comes back :toast



Then again, your team can probably beat any team in the NBA with the exception of the rockets and celtics head 2 head

[Allanon]

Hornets aren't going anywhere this year.

Without a REAL backup to Chandler, they're screwed.

Backups to Chandler: Hilton Armstrong, Marvin Ely.

Shaq/Amare killing the Hornets with Chandler out tonight.

[sook]

Hornets aren't going anywhere this year.

Without a backup to Chandler, they're screwed.

Backups to Chandler: Hilton Armstrong, Marvin Ely.

Shaq/Amare killing the Hornets with Chandler out tonight.

i hope thats the case, they are tough divisional rivals

[turiaf for president]

in a head to head matchup the rockets were already better than the lakers.


Overall the Lakers are the better team though.


Have you still forgotten that ass rape on the 22nd win by tmac + scrubs?


The Lakers don't do well against good defensive teams, just wait till Shane comes back :toast



Then again, your team can probably beat any team in the NBA with the exception of the rockets and celtics head 2 head

did u miss the first 2 laker games this season?

[Roxsfan]

Rockets are on a back-to-back, but they played the lowly Grizz and obviously saved their energy for tonight's game....



...I only say this so that Rocket Fan can't use the "we were on a back-to-back" excuse after tonight's curbstompage :smokin

Mavs 108
Rockets 91



You were saying? What excuse were you talking about:blah:nope:lmao


I guess we found out who took the curbstompage:lmao

Kindly stfu and let the rockets, lakers, spurs, jazz, NO, and Celtics continue to be relevant while the mavs, well they're the mavs.:lmao

[ElNono]

Mavs sure forgot quickly how to play D. But the Rockets also looked pretty bad defensively.
It's a long season though, and Battier should help with that a bit.

[ElNono]

in a head to head matchup the rockets were already better than the lakers.

Overall the Lakers are the better team though.

Have you still forgotten that ass rape on the 22nd win by tmac + scrubs?

The Lakers don't do well against good defensive teams, just wait till Shane comes back :toast

Then again, your team can probably beat any team in the NBA with the exception of the rockets and celtics head 2 head

You got Artest and are waiting for Battier to come back to start playing D?
I think the Rockets are playoff fodder if they keep allowing 100+ ppg.

[sook]

did u miss the first 2 laker games this season?

Nobody expected them to lose to the blazers or clippers.

Like i said, solid defensive teams.



The lakers don't match up good with the rockets.

[dirk4mvp]

You were saying? What excuse were you talking about:blah:nope:lmao


I guess we found out who took the curbstompage:lmao

Kindly stfu and let the rockets, lakers, spurs, jazz, NO, and Celtics continue to be relevant while the mavs, well they're the mavs.:lmao


The sad part is you took that serious.

[sook]

You got Artest and are waiting for Battier to come back to start playing D?
I think the Rockets are playoff fodder if they keep allowing 100+ ppg.

Yea thats the ting about artest, i noticed it too. He is an A grade defender but he also gambles.

If you watched all the game i did you would understand, there is something about Battier, he carries this team defensively, as a 6th man he would do wonders.

[Roxsfan]

the rockets are gonna be tough this year.

at least until tmac gets an ingrown toenail and yao jams his pinky and they each miss 30 games over it.

maybe artest can inject some much lacked toughness into that team.

then again i doubt it, this was against the mavs after all.

just like the fakers are 2-0 against teams that did NOT make the playoffs last year:lmao

Kobe playing in the 4Q of a blow out:lmao

[sook]

You were saying? What excuse were you talking about:blah:nope:lmao


I guess we found out who took the curbstompage:lmao

Kindly stfu and let the rockets, lakers, spurs, jazz, NO, and Celtics continue to be relevant while the mavs, well they're the mavs.:lmao

I like the mavs...but i think Cuban is a douchebag

[Roxsfan]

The sad part is you took that serious.

are you his fucking agent? Don't defend his stupidity. Way to back peddle.:nope

[Roxsfan]

You got Artest and are waiting for Battier to come back to start playing D?
I think the Rockets are playoff fodder if they keep allowing 100+ ppg.

coming from the other winless Texas team:rolleyes

[ElNono]

Yea thats the ting about artest, i noticed it too. He is an A grade defender but he also gambles.

If you watched all the game i did you would understand, there is something about Battier, he carries this team defensively, as a 6th man he would do wonders.

Adelman is just not a defensive coach. Scola is still getting silly fouls. And you don't have much size past Yao and him. I think the Rockets are loaded talent-wise, but they have a ton of work to do defensively. The Grizzlies gave them problems last night. Obviously, it's early. They have all year to work on that. But they have to. You can't win in the playoffs giving up so many points.

[Roxsfan]

Artest and the Rockets looked good. Their depth is going to give teams fits. TMac was nothing more than a cheerleader down the stretch and they owned the Mavs anyway. If the Rockets are healthy going into the playoffs and they stay healthy throughout they will be your '08-'09 NBA Champions.

:toast

[sook]

Adelman is just not a defensive coach. Scola is still getting silly fouls. And you don't have much size past Yao and him. I think the Rockets are loaded talent-wise, but they have a ton of work to do defensively. The Grizzlies gave them problems last night. Obviously, it's early. They have all year to work on that. But they have to. You can't win in the playoffs giving up so many points.

exactly, they were 2nd last yr in defense b.c of Battier and Deke, once they bring them back there will be a balance

[Kobe24Forever]

just like the fakers are 2-0 against teams that did NOT make the playoffs last year:lmao

Kobe playing in the 4Q of a blow out:lmao

early in the morning at Roxfan going into shitting mode already?

[ElNono]

coming from the other winless Texas team:rolleyes

Please. We're missing 5 guys right now.

[Roxsfan]

random thought. the rockets have to have the ugliest unis in the nba.

I love them. Mavs uniforms are generic looking.

[SpursDynasty]

Nothing surprising about tonight's game. The Rockets are not a great team by any means, but by this point no one should expect Dallas to win more than 44 games this year.

[turiaf for president]

Nobody expected them to lose to the blazers or clippers.

Like i said, solid defensive teams.



The lakers don't match up good with the rockets.

no body expected the lakers to win by 20 and 30 points either.....sure they have artest and battier to throw at kobe but yao is soft and bynum is long enough to bother him on defense. the lakers can counter with kobe and ariza on tmac and artest as well. pau > scola and fisher > skip to my lou. whos gonna match up with lamar? sasha off the bench? brooks looks good but farmar has the edge at this stage in their careers.

if u play tmac artest and battier, whos gonna guard pau? i think its the rockets who cant match up with the lakers

[benefactor]

No.

Give me a healthy Spurs team over the Rockets any day of the week. And there is no way this team beats the Lakers in a seven game series.
I love my Spurs...and I am not saying we can't beat them..but with all the match up problems we would have with them it would be an extremely tall order. They very big, athletic team that has three legit all-star caliber players.

The Lakers would have similar problems. Gasol is soft big man who would likely be bullied by Landry and Scola. With all those hard-nosed forwards they have I would even go as far as to say that Gasol would almost be useless in a series against the Rockets. This would leave Bynum and Odom to help Kobe shoulder the load...and Kobe would have his own issues because Artest would be hounding him the whole series. I don't see why Laker fans aren't more worried.

[MavDynasty]

Nothing surprising about tonight's game. The Rockets are not a great team by any means, but by this point no one should expect Dallas to win more than 44 games this year.

the god has spoken.


and wtf they unpink u?

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

Please. We're missing 5 guys right now.

No shit, I'm sure rox fan is just fucking with you.

[Kai]

The Rockets are only going to get better. Tracy got virtually no playing time with the rest of the group during the preseason and Battier still hasn't even practiced. The offense will eventually gel and we will develop chemistry that comes with repetition. As of right now, the Lakers are still head and shoulders the best team but I think we will come around and push them for that top spot.

[turiaf for president]

I love my Spurs...and I am not saying we can't beat them..but with all the match up problems we would have with them it would be an extremely tall order. They very big, athletic team that has three legit all-star caliber players.

The Lakers would have similar problems. Gasol is soft big man who would likely be bullied by Landry and Scola. With all those hard-nosed forwards they have I would even go as far as to say that Gasol would almost be useless in a series against the Rockets. This would leave Bynum and Odom to help Kobe shoulder the load...and Kobe would have his own issues because Artest would be hounding him the whole series. I don't see why Laker fans aren't more worried.

pau is soft but scola and landry are way too short. pau tall but what helps is that he is long. plus hes got a much better finese game and a jumper than most 4's in the game.

talk about soft, yao is as soft as they come. bynums length will give him fits.

boozer couldnt handle paus length but garnet did because he is also tall and long

[Roxsfan]

No shit, I'm sure rox fan is just fucking with you.

of fucking course man:flag:

we're missing Battier too

[GuerillaBlack]

Before tipoff, Mavs swingman Jerry Stackhouse addressed the crowd, saying, “It’s gonna be fun, it’s gonna be fast. Put on your seat belts. Let’s do it!” Then Dallas opened the Carlisle era with a 24-second violation

Awesome.

[sook]

no body expected the lakers to win by 20 and 30 points either.....sure they have artest and battier to throw at kobe but yao is soft and bynum is long enough to bother him on defense. the lakers can counter with kobe and ariza on tmac and artest as well. pau > scola and fisher > skip to my lou. whos gonna match up with lamar? sasha off the bench? brooks looks good but farmar has the edge at this stage in their careers.

if u play tmac artest and battier, whos gonna guard pau? i think its the rockets who cant match up with the lakers

by that logic how the hell did they lose to Tmac+ 50 year old center + scrubs by double digits last year? :rolleyes

[IronMexican]

Awesome.

:rollin

[DaDakota]

Good game by the Rockets.....I think the Mavs need a little better 2nd unit....maybe replace Stackhouse with Gerald Green.....

Not much to read into an early win, but the Rockets are going to be nasty.

DD

[icem]

Adelman is just not a defensive coach. Scola is still getting silly fouls. And you don't have much size past Yao and him. I think the Rockets are loaded talent-wise, but they have a ton of work to do defensively. The Grizzlies gave them problems last night. Obviously, it's early. They have all year to work on that. But they have to. You can't win in the playoffs giving up so many points.

the grizz only scored 70 points.

they played a team trying to push the tempo so of course the score is going to be high. the same a lot of times when we played phoenix. we would give up a lot of points but still win because we can get stops in the 4th. the rockets locked down the mavs in the 4th. they are definitely scary even though their offense has a long way to go.

[lefty]

Artest totally owned the Mavs

Frawsome

[Roxsfan]

Rockets needed a Jordanesque game from Brooks and a Larry Bird lilke shooting performance from Artest in order to beat the mavs. Having said that I hope a ceiling fan falls on Ron Artest while he sleeps.

STFU, thats not Brooks-air jordan-thats just the game slowing way down for a fast as fuck sophomore and you will see more of that consistently.....

Artest and larry bird--what are you smoking--u will see more of that from artest.

face it the mavs are has-beens

[dirk4mvp]

Awesome.


Their first official shot attempt was also an airball by Wright btw.

[sook]

Artest and Yao combined for 60 points !:hat

[dirk4mvp]

Those NBA Live commercials are garbage.

[turiaf for president]

by that logic how the hell did they lose to Tmac+ 50 year old center + scrubs by double digits last year? :rolleyes

by that logic how did the heat win any games last year? anyone can beat anyone on any given night in the nba

that was one game during a hot streak by the rockets. never did i say lakers would kill the rockets, just matchups arent in the rockets favor.

[GuerillaBlack]

Those NBA Live commercials are garbage.

The truth. They don't hold a candle to the NFL commercials (especially the new one with LT and Troy).

[turiaf for president]

and if the rockets were so damn good, why couldnt taht team that won 22 in a row win 4 in a 7 game span to finally advance to the 2nd round of the playoffs?

[ElNono]

the grizz only scored 70 points.

they played a team trying to push the tempo so of course the score is going to be high. the same a lot of times when we played phoenix. we would give up a lot of points but still win because we can get stops in the 4th. the rockets locked down the mavs in the 4th. they are definitely scary even though their offense has a long way to go.

The Grizz were down 2 with 3 mins to go...
And Adelman said it best about the tempo... he wants them to run too whenever they can, but they don't want to go too fast as to lose control.
And I don't think the Rockets put many clamps in the 4th tonight. The Mavs just started shooting jumper after jumper and clanking everything. Every time jHo went to the basket, he basically scored.

[GuerillaBlack]

^^Is that why JHO had 2 points in the 4th and Dirk had 1 (off of a technical free throw)?


and if the rockets were so damn good, why couldnt taht team that won 22 in a row win 4 in a 7 game span to finally advance to the 2nd round of the playoffs?

Injuries smart ass. We didn't have Rafer (we only had him for two games) and don't forget, 12 of those 22 games came with Yao in the lineup. Plus, TMAC, Battier, and Rafer all were playing on injuries that needed surgery right after the season.

[turiaf for president]

no shit that was a smart comment to counter sooks smart ass comment.

and rafer? are fucking kidding me? if ure counting a skip to my lou to advance u to the 2nd round ure just going to be disappointed again.

[Many PackYao]

Those NBA Live commercials are garbage.Especially that queer-ass jingle,"Nba live 365.....":lol

[ElNono]

^^Is that why JHO had 2 points in the 4th and Dirk had 1 (off of a technical free throw)?


Basically, yes. Those two points were on a drive to the basket. It was the only time he actually went to the rim. But JHo is notorious for disappearing in the second half of games

[GuerillaBlack]

no shit that was a smart comment to counter sooks smart ass comment.

and rafer? are fucking kidding me? if ure counting a skip to my lou to advance u to the 2nd round ure just going to be disappointed again.

Uh...okay. He was playing well when he was in during the playoffs. And please, don't think it'll be the same thing this year. You'll be disappointed. Our squad is a lot better and I can't believe you think the Rockets don't match up with the Lakers. We are pretty even (though the Lakers might have a deeper bench).

[Roxsfan]

I love my Spurs...and I am not saying we can't beat them..but with all the match up problems we would have with them it would be an extremely tall order. They very big, athletic team that has three legit all-star caliber players.

The Lakers would have similar problems. Gasol is soft big man who would likely be bullied by Landry and Scola. With all those hard-nosed forwards they have I would even go as far as to say that Gasol would almost be useless in a series against the Rockets. This would leave Bynum and Odom to help Kobe shoulder the load...and Kobe would have his own issues because Artest would be hounding him the whole series. I don't see why Laker fans aren't more worried.

well, homerism is a mother fucker. I am concerned about the fakers, but some of these fucks like laker luver are really in for a rude awakening when they play the rox....lakaluva talking about punking the rox with a blowout:rolleyes:nope

[Kai]

by that logic how did the heat win any games last year? anyone can beat anyone on any given night in the nba

that was one game during a hot streak by the rockets. never did i say lakers would kill the rockets, just matchups arent in the rockets favor.

I wouldn't exactly say the matchups are in the Lakers' favor either. To answer your question as to who will guard Gasol when Battier and Artest on the floor, it would be who ever is playing power forward. Tracy McGrady is perfectly capable of playing minutes at the PG with Artest sliding to the 2 spot. Yes Gasol is tall, but Chuck Hayes gives Garnett fits, and I don't think Gasol is much harder to defend. Don't forget that Deke fully plans to re-sign with the team sometime throughout the season.

[Roxsfan]

and if the rockets were so damn good, why couldnt taht team that won 22 in a row win 4 in a 7 game span to finally advance to the 2nd round of the playoffs?

How the fuck do you think the fakers would have done in the postseason without KOBE. Damn, Yao was out are you that fucking stupid.:bang:lmao

[Kai]

no shit that was a smart comment to counter sooks smart ass comment.

and rafer? are fucking kidding me? if ure counting a skip to my lou to advance u to the 2nd round ure just going to be disappointed again.

Honestly, Is Derek Fischer that much better than Rafer? Farmar is ahead of Brooks, but You never know how any of these teams will look come April/June.

[ludda]

The Rockets look solid. I was more impressed with their subs though, really destroyed the Mavs 2nd unit.

Mavs looked good in spurts but reverted back to the same jumpshooting team in the 4th quarter. Until they get a consistent 2nd scorer that can relieve Dirk, they're going to be losing close games this season again to good teams. Howard is still a fast starter, but not much late in the game.

Brooks was torching Terry. Artest played a great game on both ends. Once Tmac gets healthy, the Rockets are dangerous. I like their bench as well, lots of young energy guys. I didn't think their defense was all that, but I think they finally have the offensive firepower to make noise this season.

[turiaf for president]

Uh...okay. He was playing well when he was in during the playoffs. And please, don't think it'll be the same thing this year. You'll be disappointed. Our squad is a lot better and I can't believe you think the Rockets don't match up with the Lakers. We are pretty even (though the Lakers might have a deeper bench).


I wouldn't exactly say the matchups are in the Lakers' favor either. To answer your question as to who will guard Gasol when Battier and Artest on the floor, it would be who ever is playing power forward. Tracy McGrady is perfectly capable of playing minutes at the PG with Artest sliding to the 2 spot. Yes Gasol is tall, but Chuck Hayes gives Garnett fits, and I don't think Gasol is much harder to defend. Don't forget that Deke fully plans to re-sign with the team sometime throughout the season.


lets just end it before it gets out of control.

someone said the lakers dont match up with the rockets. i countered and explained why i think they do.

i picked the rockets and lakers to meet in the WCF. I also love artest's aquisition and wish the lakers picked him up for lamar.

i question the rockets offense. at time tonite you can see yao tmac and artest all trying to take over the game one on one. if they continue to do that, its not gonna work out for the rockets. lets not forget it was a 2 point game until 4 minutes left in the 4th.

[IronMexican]

Honestly, Is Derek Fischer that much better than Rafer? Farmar is ahead of Brooks, but You never know how any of these teams will look come April/June.

He wasn't saying anything about Fish being better. He was saying if you're playoff hopes fall on the shoulders of Rafer Alston, prepare to be disappointed.

[turiaf for president]

How the fuck do you think the fakers would have done in the postseason without KOBE. Damn, Yao was out are you that fucking stupid.:bang:lmao

ok u fuckin moron. sook said the rockets went on a winning streak with tmac and scrubs. that same team couldnt win 4 games out of 7 in the playoffs. fucken read

and i guaren fucken tee you the lakers would made it to the 2nd round against the nuggets without kobe.

[sribb43]

Small Ball + Stack = losing....that reminds me so much of Avery.:bang Let's hope Rick understands that you will not wiin playing that way. Mavs were up 83-77 and Rick inserts Stack and all of a sudden the lead is gone. :bang Same happened in the 1st half when Stack entered the Rockets built their lead. If Stack doesnt show you anything when he first enters the game then Rick should realize he just doesnt have it that night. Too much Bass at center especially against Yao = no chance. Bass in spurts is fine but why the hell did you re-sign Diop if you dont plan on playing centers?

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

lets just end it before it gets out of control.

someone said the lakers dont match up with the rockets. i countered and explained why i think they do.

i picked the rockets and lakers to meet in the WCF. I also love artest's aquisition and wish the lakers picked him up for lamar.

i question the rockets offense. at time tonite you can see yao tmac and artest all trying to take over the game one on one. if they continue to do that, its not gonna work out for the rockets. lets not forget it was a 2 point game until 4 minutes left in the 4th.

Let Adelman figure out out to use his BIG 3, ARTEST is ours FTMFW:wow
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I respect the lakers, I just don't think lakers fans respect the rockets:lmao

[turiaf for president]

He wasn't saying anything about Fish being better. He was saying if you're playoff hopes fall on the shoulders of Rafer Alston, prepare to be disappointed.

thank you.

to clarify, fisher is ahead of alston in the sense that hes been there done that. you can count on fisher to perform consistantly. rafer, you dont know what u get day in and day out

[Kai]

lets just end it before it gets out of control.

someone said the lakers dont match up with the rockets. i countered and explained why i think they do.

i picked the rockets and lakers to meet in the WCF. I also love artest's aquisition and wish the lakers picked him up for lamar.

i question the rockets offense. at time tonite you can see yao tmac and artest all trying to take over the game one on one. if they continue to do that, its not gonna work out for the rockets. lets not forget it was a 2 point game until 4 minutes left in the 4th.

Agreed. I have confidence in Adelman to figure things out. We have the whole season anyways.

[Many PackYao]

and i guaren fucken tee you the lakers would made it to the 2nd round against the nuggets without kobe.:rollin:lmao

[turiaf for president]

Let Adelman figure out out to use his BIG 3, ARTEST is ours FTMFW:wow


I respect the lakers, I just don't think lakers fans respect the rockets:lmao

yes and i hate u for that.

HOW AM I NOT SHOWING RESPECT FOR THE ROCKETS. i just said they are making it to the WCF. ?

[turiaf for president]

:rollin:lmao

:depressed:sleep:married::lol:toast:downspin::king :whine:bang:wakeup:hat:(:lobt::bking:rollin:blah:n ope:ihit

??

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

ok u fuckin moron. sook said the rockets went on a winning streak with tmac and scrubs. that same team couldnt win 4 games out of 7 in the playoffs. fucken read

and i guaren fucken tee you the lakers would made it to the 2nd round against the nuggets without kobe.

dude stfu

[sribb43]

Fuck Carlisle....SMALL BALL & CRAPHOUSE

Dirk, J-Ho and Kidd played great too bad the rest of the team played like ass.....props to the Rockets for their play

[Roxsfan]

ok u fuckin moron. sook said the rockets went on a winning streak with tmac and scrubs. that same team couldnt win 4 games out of 7 in the playoffs. fucken read

and i guaren fucken tee you the lakers would made it to the 2nd round against the nuggets without kobe.

dude, u seriously think that--good for you, I disagree.

with Yao last year the rox would have gotten past the jizz---but I don't give a shit about last year.

[turiaf for president]

dude stfu

yea nice edit

[Roxsfan]

thank you.

to clarify, fisher is ahead of alston in the sense that hes been there done that. you can count on fisher to perform consistantly. rafer, you dont know what u get day in and day out

yes, fisher surprisingly still has it.


Rafer has it, loses it, has it, loses it, has it, loses it, has it.....well he was consistent down the stretch last year though.

[turiaf for president]

dude, u seriously think that--good for you, I disagree.

with Yao last year the rox would have gotten past the jizz---but I don't give a shit about last year.

i think what? that the rockets that won 22 in a row couldnt win 4 in 7? i dont think that....thats what happened.

with yao of course i think they woulda made it to the 2nd round but fact is they havent. if they stay heathly I HAVE THEM MAKING THE WCF!

[Many PackYao]

Come on are you bullshittin'?You think the Lakers would have beaten the Nuggets without Kobe?Kobe assraped them by himself.I wish he would have taken over the Finals against the Celts like he did in the Nug series.

[turiaf for president]

Come on are you bullshittin'?You think the Lakers would have beaten the Nuggets without Kobe?Kobe assraped them by himself.I wish he would have taken over like he did in the Nug series against the Celts.

pau had just as much to do with it as kobe. of course having kobe was huge and we swept them. but without him, i still like the lakers chances against the nuggets that didnt play any defense.

[IronMexican]

Come on are you bullshittin'?You think the Lakers would have beaten the Nuggets without Kobe?Kobe assraped them by himself.I wish he would have taken over the Finals against the Celts like he did in the Nug series.

Pau ass raped the Nuggets, not Kobe.

[Many PackYao]

Pau ass raped the Nuggets, not Kobe.He did well, but didn't Kobe go off for 49 in game 2?

[Kai]

pau had just as much to do with it as kobe. of course having kobe was huge and we swept them. but without him, i still like the lakers chances against the nuggets that didnt play any defense.

If you had missed Kobe for as long as we had missed Yao, then you would not have had the number one seed. You would probably be playing Utah or Phoenix or someone.

[Roxsfan]

i think what? that the rockets that won 22 in a row couldnt win 4 in 7? i dont think that....thats what happened.

with yao of course i think they woulda made it to the 2nd round but fact is they havent. if they stay heathly I HAVE THEM MAKING THE WCF!

I guess your boy lakaluva was talking about a 30 point blowout of the rockets, so we cool.

[Many PackYao]

If you had missed Kobe for as long as we had missed Yao, then you would not have had the number one seed. You would probably be playing Utah or Phoenix or someone.
Yup!

[turiaf for president]

If you had missed Kobe for as long as we had missed Yao, then you would not have had the number one seed. You would probably be playing Utah or Phoenix or someone.

probably right but again.............

my response was to sook saying the lakers lost to a team with tmac and scrubs last year. that same team went on a hot streak and flamed out in the playoffs again all WITHOUT yao. (won alot without him and lost in the playoffs without him)

so if tmac and a bunch of scrubs were so good they shoulda made it past the 1st round. which proves my original post 3 pages ago where i said any one can beat any one on any given night so u cant take that one game that the rockets won against the lakers into a big context.

but some of you guys missed that post and automatically thought i was discrediting or saying the rockets suck. are u kidding me? artest yao and tmac? AGAIN FOR THE LAST TIME I HAVE THE ROCKETS GOING TO THE WCF!!!!

[icem]

flamed out in the playoffs ????

people actually thought the rockets could beat utah without yao and rafer only playing in 2 games ?

no way the lakers would have beat utah without kobe, or without gasol. i dont see why anyone expected the rockets to get out of the first round....

[turiaf for president]

flamed out in the playoffs ????

people actually thought the rockets could beat utah without yao and rafer only playing in 2 games ?
no way the lakers would have beat utah without kobe, or without gasol. i dont see why anyone expected the rockets to get out of the first round....

no shit. and what did they do? they lost. hence they flamed out. ?

[monosylab1k]

props to the Rockets. They played a really good game despite being on the second of a back-to-back. I know the Mavs can't do it, so in the playoffs I honestly will be pulling hard for the Rockets to beat the faggot Lakers.

[icem]

no shit. and what did they do? they lost. hence they flamed out. ?

the context you said it in sounds like you think because they won 22 in a row they should have been able to do more....

[monosylab1k]

Stackhouse played 17 minutes and had a +/- of -21!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is fucking insane.

Replace Shithouse with Gerald Green and the Mavs might have had a 15 point lead going into the 4th and still probably would have lost.

[Shank]

Stackhouse can get fucked. That guy has jack shit left.

[monosylab1k]

I'm gonna keep track of Stack's +/- all year because at this pace he's bound to get a cumulative total in the negative millions.

[Roxsfan]

flamed out in the playoffs ????

people actually thought the rockets could beat utah without yao and rafer only playing in 2 games ?

no way the lakers would have beat utah without kobe, or without gasol. i dont see why anyone expected the rockets to get out of the first round....

I love you, in a brotherly way:hat

[Shank]

The Mavs didn't play THAT badly tonight. 4th quarter was crap. Some bright spots. I'm still encouraged.

But yes, motherfuck Stackhouse.

[Roxsfan]

props to the Rockets. They played a really good game despite being on the second of a back-to-back. I know the Mavs can't do it, so in the playoffs I honestly will be pulling hard for the Rockets to beat the faggot Lakers.

damn:toast

[Roxsfan]

The Mavs didn't play THAT badly tonight. 4th quarter was crap. Some bright spots. I'm still encouraged.

But yes, motherfuck Stackhouse.

yes, but what happens when the jump shots clank,...who will bang down low?

Diop, Erica, Bass, Dirk:nope

[monosylab1k]

The Mavs didn't play THAT badly tonight. 4th quarter was crap. Some bright spots. I'm still encouraged.

But yes, motherfuck Stackhouse.

The Mavs didn't play that badly all last year until the 4th quarter.

I don't care if it's one game, it's still the same ol' Mavs. NOTHING has changed, except now they're finding new ways to kick their fans in the stomach.

Avery was perfectly capable of coaching a team that had 3 and a half quarters of "We are bad ass" and then 6 final minutes of "fuck it, let's go bowling instead".

[Shank]

yes, but what happens when the jump shots clank,...who will bang down low?

Diop, Erica, Bass, Dirk:nope

You act like this is something new to the franchise in Dallas.

[Roxsfan]

You act like this is something new to the franchise in Dallas.

precisely my point, what happens in that situation?

[Shank]

precisely my point, what happens in that situation?

I kill a 6 of Shiner and kick my wife down the stairs?

[stretch]

My assessment: Mavs played like complete trash, while the Rockets were draining every crazy off balance shot they threw up and it was still close through the entire game.

Mavs will be just fine.

[Roxsfan]

I kill a 6 of Shiner and kick my wife down the stairs?

L O fucking L:lmao

[Tmac&Luther]

pau is soft but scola and landry are way too short. pau tall but what helps is that he is long. plus hes got a much better finese game and a jumper than most 4's in the game.

talk about soft, yao is as soft as they come. bynums length will give him fits.

boozer couldnt handle paus length but garnet did because he is also tall and long

:lmao

This is what always makes me laugh my ass off :rollin

People that don't realize that Yao actually plays better against the bigger opponent that he's matched up against, certainly don't have the cred to call him soft, because they know nothing about his game and probably don't even watch him play.

You stick a true center up against Yao (like Bynum) and Yao is going to kick the dog shit out of him........like he did tonight against Dallas' 2 true centers.

Playing against a true center actually feeds into Yao's hand, which is why LA was always the team Yao went off on even when they had prime Shaq.

[Tmac&Luther]

Avery was perfectly capable of coaching a team that had 3 and a half quarters of "We are bad ass" and then 6 final minutes of "fuck it, let's go bowling instead".

What's the biggest lead that the Mavs ever had against the Rockets in this game? If anything it was Houston that almost fucked the game up.

[Many PackYao]

You better pick a better team you cock sucker, cause any team with Insane Artest as their leader aint beating the Lakeshow.
I'm sure you said the same thing about a team that included that choker Garnett.Look what happened there.:bang

[dirk4mvp]

lol, neither Artest or Garnett was the leader of their team.

[mavsfan1000]

Fuck Stackhouse. The guy keeps getting worse. We win if Stackhouse doesn't play. Fact. Gerald Green ftw.

[Tmac&Luther]

lol, neither Artest or Garnett was the leader of their team.

Really? He was the emotional leader and especially DEFENSIVE LEADER of their team.........and will you please tell us what side of the court they used to win the title last year?

Artest is one of those guys that can bring energy just through his hustle plays and defense.........him and Battier are going to be going back and forth all year, trying to out do eachother.

[Many PackYao]

lol, neither Artest or Garnett was the leader of their team.
By the way he beat up on the Mavs tonight, you would think he is.Mcgrady contributed the least of the big 3.

[dirk4mvp]

Really? He was the emotional leader and especially DEFENSIVE LEADER of their team.........and will you please tell us what side of the court they used to win the title?


:lol Because he beat his chest when he blocked a shot? What the fuck ever. Who carried that team through the entire playoffs? Garnett was horrible in the Finals.

[Tmac&Luther]

:lol Because he beat his chest when he blocked a shot? What the fuck ever. Who carried that team through the entire playoffs? Garnett was horrible in the Finals.

If you think all Garnett did was beat his chest on defense your fucking retarded. He (and coach Tom) were the main reason why they had a epic (NBA historic) defense.......even Laker fans will admit as much.

Playing championship level NBA ball isn't just about scoring points..(even though he still was able to throw up 20 & 10 on the offensive end)...Garnett took on one major role and played it well and it was a major role that took them all the way to the chip last season....that DEFENSE carried them.

[Many PackYao]

:lol Because he beat his chest when he blocked a shot? What the fuck ever. Who carried that team through the entire playoffs? Garnett was horrible in the Finals.
I know you want to say it's Pierce who was the Celt's leader.Pierce played the Kobe to Garnett's Shaq in the way that Shaq might have led the Lakers in scoring, but it was Kobe who would make the clutch shots,FTs,.etc. to close out the Finals games.Yet, people called Shaq the leader.

[cze1860]

Yao＋T-Mac＋Ron＝30＋16＋29＝75 points,25 REB,10AST.....

[Kai]

:lmao

This is what always makes me laugh my ass off :rollin

People that don't realize that Yao actually plays better against the bigger opponent that he's matched up against, certainly don't have the cred to call him soft, because they know nothing about his game and probably don't even watch him play.

You stick a true center up against Yao (like Bynum) and Yao is going to kick the dog shit out of him........like he did tonight against Dallas' 2 true centers.

Playing against a true center actually feeds into Yao's hand, which is why LA was always the team Yao went off on even when they had prime Shaq.
Very, very true. Look it up, Yao plays best against the best. He has since his rookie year.

[21_Blessings]

Jesus christ the mavs are terrible

[rapliketp]

What was J-Ho thinking?
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[Hemotivo]

hmmm... taste like elbow

[DaDakota]

props to the Rockets. They played a really good game despite being on the second of a back-to-back. I know the Mavs can't do it, so in the playoffs I honestly will be pulling hard for the Rockets to beat the faggot Lakers.


Crap, now don't make me get all soft and start liking you.

;)


Stackhouse played 17 minutes and had a +/- of -21!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is fucking insane.

Replace Shithouse with Gerald Green and the Mavs might have had a 15 point lead going into the 4th and still probably would have lost.

Must resist...urge to agree with Mono....must resist !!!!!

DD

[turiaf for president]

:lmao

This is what always makes me laugh my ass off :rollin

People that don't realize that Yao actually plays better against the bigger opponent that he's matched up against, certainly don't have the cred to call him soft, because they know nothing about his game and probably don't even watch him play.

You stick a true center up against Yao (like Bynum) and Yao is going to kick the dog shit out of him........like he did tonight against Dallas' 2 true centers.

Playing against a true center actually feeds into Yao's hand, which is why LA was always the team Yao went off on even when they had prime Shaq.


erica gets dominated by everyone........

[DaDakota]

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Josh trips Yao on purpose.....

DD

[monosylab1k]

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Josh trips Yao on purpose.....

DD

That was right after Ron hooked Josh's arm while he was mid-air and yanked him down. Ron was playing dirty all night.

Yao gave Josh a nice elbow to the face moments earlier as well.

[dirk4mvp]

That was right after Ron hooked Josh's arm while he was mid-air and yanked him down. Ron was playing dirty all night.


According to Reggie Miller, Artest hasn't done anything wrong in his life.

[monosylab1k]

According to Reggie Miller, Artest hasn't done anything wrong in his life.

I was so glad Ron got that T - he really didn't seem out of control when he got into that situation, but it was just all the little dirty cheap shots he took at Josh all night that accumulated.

[Indazone]

According to Reggie Miller, Artest hasn't done anything wrong in his life.

Ron-Ron and Reggie used to be teammates.

[Indazone]

What was J-Ho thinking?
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Lemme guess, shortly after this tripping incident is when Yao bumped J-Ho and stared him down and Artest jumped into break them up earning a non-deserved technical.

Series of events here..J-Ho held Yao at the other end. Yao throws up his arms to shake him off hitting J-Ho in the face with his elbow. At the other end, J-Ho trips him making Yao fall to the floor. I am betting that the next time down the floor, Yao purposely walks into J-Ho and stares him down while Artest jumps into get the T.

[monosylab1k]

Lemme guess, shortly after this tripping incident is when Yao bumped J-Ho and stared him down and Artest jumped into break them up earning a non-deserved technical.

:lmao did you watch the game? those two incidents were in two different quarters.

[Indazone]

I only came into the game in the third quarter..but seems like those two were going at it all night. Well at least I got the series of events right except for the Artest T.

[dirk4mvp]

Ron-Ron and Reggie used to be teammates.


No way!

[xcomp]

Most around here may not be that familiar with the history between the Rockets and the Mavs, but this isn't the first time Josh Howard has gotten into incidents with Yao. I'll just say that for a long time, Rockets fans have been generally unanimous in their opinion that Josh Howard is a punk, and many hope that one day Yao issues him a well-deserved flagrant-2.

Last night's game only made it obvious that there is no love lost between Yao and Howard, and as far as I know, Howard is the only player that I've ever seen Yao bear a legitimate grudge against.

[The Franchise]

Good game. I'm happy with the win but it's to early to be talking shit. We are playing out of sync right now, on offense and defense. I am very happy with our bench this year. It seems that now we can give our starters the rest they need. The Mavs played well but they need a little more depth. It seemed like there starters tired out by the end of the game. Brooks looks like he picked up right where he left off in preseason which is excellent. Hopefully this means less Rafer( I wanted to kick my fucking TV when he took that retarded floater at the end of the third quarter). I give it a C+ but we still have a lot of work to do. If we can get it clicking on both ends I don't see us being beat. :lobt2:

[Killakobe81]

I love my Spurs...and I am not saying we can't beat them..but with all the match up problems we would have with them it would be an extremely tall order. They very big, athletic team that has three legit all-star caliber players.

The Lakers would have similar problems. Gasol is soft big man who would likely be bullied by Landry and Scola. With all those hard-nosed forwards they have I would even go as far as to say that Gasol would almost be useless in a series against the Rockets. This would leave Bynum and Odom to help Kobe shoulder the load...and Kobe would have his own issues because Artest would be hounding him the whole series. I don't see why Laker fans aren't more worried.

They look good (rockets) no doubt, but if you watched that game Howard was burningArtest he has great hands but his feet arent as quick as they used to be Battier gaurds Kobe better ...also if they play artest and battier together who is gaurding Pau? Do you think a team with Rafer at pg is going to wina title Adelmanis right Brooks is a key ...And yao real slow we will run him down the floor ... tmac is nice but hes no Kobe hell he is no manu o Pierce either when it comes to clutch play

[Indazone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB9MlgM3XzY

Watched it over and over...Artest touched Howard first. Kidd pushes Artest back. Artest runs to Yao acting like he's trying to separate them.

Refs do not fall for it and T up Artest.

[Many PackYao]

Good game. I'm happy with the win but it's to early to be talking shit. We are playing out of sync right now, on offense and defense. I am very happy with our bench this year. It seems that now we can give our starters the rest they need. The Mavs played well but they need a little more depth. It seemed like there starters tired out by the end of the game. Brooks looks like he picked up right where he left off in preseason which is excellent. Hopefully this means less Rafer( I wanted to kick my fucking TV when he took that retarded floater at the end of the third quarter). I give it a C+ but we still have a lot of work to do. If we can get it clicking on both ends I don't see us being beat. :lobt2:
No offense bro but....
Rafer saved the Rockets asses by giving them a bigger cushion on the lead against the Grizz.It's also funny how you said that and have him as your avatar.:p:

[The Franchise]

No offense bro but....
Rafer saved the Rockets asses by giving them a bigger cushion on the lead against the Grizz.It's also funny how you said that and have him as your avatar.:p:

As far as the shot in the Grizz game good for him, but he should make open shots (something he doesn't do on a consistent basis). I only put him in the avatar because he's part of the team and everyone else is in my sig. I think I will be switching it back to Brooks though.:p: Rafer is what he is at this point and it's not good enough anymore.

[BUMP]

Good game. I'm happy with the win but it's to early to be talking shit. We are playing out of sync right now, on offense and defense. I am very happy with our bench this year. It seems that now we can give our starters the rest they need. The Mavs played well but they need a little more depth. It seemed like there starters tired out by the end of the game. Brooks looks like he picked up right where he left off in preseason which is excellent. Hopefully this means less Rafer( I wanted to kick my fucking TV when he took that retarded floater at the end of the third quarter). I give it a C+ but we still have a lot of work to do. If we can get it clicking on both ends I don't see us being beat. :lobt2:

Rockets have a very talented and very deep team. as soon as the Mavs season is over or they lose in the first round ill be rooting for them.:toast

[Many PackYao]

As far as the shot in the Grizz game good for him, but he should make open shots (something he doesn't do on a consistent basis). I only put him in the avatar because he's part of the team and everyone else is in my sig. I think I will be switching it back to Brooks though.:p: Rafer is what he is at this point and it's not good enough anymore.
Yeah, it sucks. It looks like he didn't even work on his jumper in the off-season.:bang

[The Franchise]

Rockets have a very talented and very deep team. as soon as the Mavs season is over or they lose in the first round ill be rooting for them.:toast

The Mavs still have all season to make a trade to get Dirk some help. There are a lot of teams going nowhere with quality pissed off players wanting to compete for a title. Cuban doesn't mind spending money so I don't see how that Nelson boy makes his job seem as confusing as rocket science.

[sook]

don't even try to defend rafer, they kept leaving him open and he couldn't make them pay.


Brooks shouldn't be a starter...but he should get ALOT more minutes

[BUMP]

The Mavs still have all season to make a trade to get Dirk some help. There are a lot of teams going nowhere with quality pissed off players wanting to compete for a title. Cuban doesn't mind spending money so I don't see how that Nelson boy makes his job seem as confusing as rocket science.

lol....You Right! except these are the same brilliant minds that turned down a Howard/Artest trade straight up.

and after the Kidd trade last year they might be a little hesitant to pull the trigger anyway.

[sribb43]

The Mavs still have all season to make a trade to get Dirk some help. There are a lot of teams going nowhere with quality pissed off players wanting to compete for a title. Cuban doesn't mind spending money so I don't see how that Nelson boy makes his job seem as confusing as rocket science.

I look for Stack to be gone....his contract is valuable to a team thats looking to dump some salary

[DPG21920]

don't even try to defend rafer, they kept leaving him open and he couldn't make them pay.


Brooks shouldn't be a starter...but he should get ALOT more minutes

How quickly Rocket fans forget that Rafer played a key role in your teams success last year. He may not shoot the ball well, but he does a lot of good things. You will be back on his bandwagon soon.

[DaDakota]

How quickly Rocket fans forget that Rafer played a key role in your teams success last year. He may not shoot the ball well, but he does a lot of good things. You will be back on his bandwagon soon.

HORSE CRAP.....

Rafer can dribble well, and play D, but the fact that our GM keeps bringing in other PGs to try to usurp him tells you all you need to know.


Rafer is garbage.....other team's know it.......I am just glad we have Brooks who can play when Rafer struggles...which is in 3/4ths of the games.

DD

[Tmac&Luther]

To Rafer's credit he wasn't able to work on his jumpshot because he said he spent most of the offseason rehabing his injury....

Rafer's shot (and I say that loosely) will come around, even he hasn't historically been this bad. Remember the start of last season when the entire team shot well below their career averages early on (even Battier).....he'll come around.

Rafer is garbage RIGHT NOW, but over the full course of a season he is not garbage.....he is what he is, a very safe, solid, and servicable PG. Rafer and Brooks will make for a nice rotation at the 1 spot.

[cze1860]

lol,Rockets win

[SimonHymen]

rotfl@it being just another game. If Rocks lose it backs up the argument they aren't legit if they win Dallas is a turd that was going to be flushed anyhow.

[sook]

HORSE CRAP.....

Rafer can dribble well, and play D, but the fact that our GM keeps bringing in other PGs to try to usurp him tells you all you need to know.


Rafer is garbage.....other team's know it.......I am just glad we have Brooks who can play when Rafer struggles...which is in 3/4ths of the games.

DD
exactly DD, you, me, and other rockets fans know exactly what it is about Rafer that makes us want to break our TV. Rafer at his best (last season) was a decent PG that did what players are supposed to do..HIT OPEN SHOTS.

The guy was nowhere close on his 3 pt attempts and that ugly floater still lives in my nightmares. A championship caliber team can't have a PG that just decides to show up some games and disappear completely the next.

Was it just me or did you notice the team had no sense of direction when Rafer was on the floor? It was the opposite between him and brooks last season

[Mad_Hatter]

i dont like rafer either but his shot will come around. im hoping rafer/brooks split time equally this season.
Rafer may not like it but tough shit he was never supposed to be a starting PG.

[Roxsfan]

HORSE CRAP.....

Rafer can dribble well, and play D, but the fact that our GM keeps bringing in other PGs to try to usurp him tells you all you need to know.


Rafer is garbage.....other team's know it.......I am just glad we have Brooks who can play when Rafer struggles...which is in 3/4ths of the games.

DD

Rafer is better than you give him credit for. :rolleyes