Game Blog: Spurs vs Heat, 11/7/08

[Bender]

yay, I get to start one...

here's hoping Tony doesn't do a complete 180 from his last game.

I've been wanting to see Tolliver on the court, too...

[Dex]

Spurs need to get a W and keep this train a' rollin. Not going to get a Minnesota or Miami every night, so you gotta take advantage when you do.

Miami has been locking opponents down so far, so hopefully the Spurs don't hit the offensive skids again.

Good barometer to see Bowen up against Wade. Unfortunately, that still leaves Marion roaming free, so Mason will need to put in some energy.

I wanna see some Spurs defense, dammit.

[200 miles]

Will Mason finally get to start?

[duncan228]

I've been wanting to see Tolliver on the court, too...


Will Mason finally get to start?

As of now, Tolliver is listed as "Projected Inactive" and Mason Jr. as a reserve.

[Magic_Johnson]

1st spurs game brodcasted in France this season.
a win please!!

[Allanon]

As of now, Tolliver is listed as "Projected Inactive" and Mason Jr. as a reserve.

That's too bad. I'm dieing to see what Tolliver's got.

[mVp]

Tony for 60 tonight.

Finley scores 5 points on 1-11 FG shooting.

Mason hits the game winner in triple OT.

Timmy plays 54 minutes.

Book it :lol

[angelbelow]

cant wait to see how we do.

[HarlemHeat37]

this one will be all about transition D, which is pretty much all the Heat can do offensively at a high level..don't let Wade create in the open court..

Duncan's playing against under-sized opponents, so I'm expecting to get him involved early and I hope he dominates early, after it took him a little while to do so last game..

[benefactor]

No matter who scores what...all I want is better defense.

W.

[timtonymanu]

Hill vs Chalmers... thats what i wanna see

[Anti.Hero]

Look at Timmeh studying before the game.

[angelbelow]

Look at Timmeh studying before the game.

:flag:

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

holy crap, i didn't realise the Spurs D was so bad until i just saw the stats on ESPN. What has changed in SA that has caused the big dropoff?

[benefactor]

holy crap, i didn't realise the Spurs D was so bad until i just saw the stats on ESPN. What has changed in SA that has caused the big dropoff?
Injuries...new faces...you name it. It will come around. Patience...

[angelbelow]

weak frontcourt

[Allanon]

Tipoff in a few minutes, here we go......

[024]

according the the yahoo box score, mason and thomas are starting.

[Allanon]

Starting Lineups:

Whoa, Mason in the starting lineup

[timtonymanu]

they are starting!

[benefactor]

Mason starting....:)

[mVp]

Mason starting....:)

Niceeee

[timtonymanu]

Thomas with the block!

[SAtown]

Spurs 85 - 72 Heat

[duncan228]

Pop not happy fast.

[mVp]

LOL quick timeout.

[benefactor]

Thomas with the block...good sign.

[timtonymanu]

hopefully Thomas can contribute.. we need a big to do well

[timtonymanu]

TP with back to back layups

[benefactor]

TD...and 1.

[Allanon]

Spurs have some good plays for Timmeh. Looks like he's going to have a big night.

[benefactor]

Oberto's gonna have a hard time with Beasley

[benefactor]

Bowen is looking A LOT better so far. Let's see if he can keep it up.

[timtonymanu]

did Finley just sub for Mason before the break?

[Allanon]

Hahah, Tony's padding his stats.

[Allanon]

Finley in for Bowen.

[Juanobili]

damn this picture quality

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't like Mason starting..bad move..

[mVp]

10-0 run by the Heat... fuck.

[timtonymanu]

cmon not looking good!

[timtonymanu]

fuckin Beasley.

[loveforthegame]

Thank God Mason brought scoring to the starting lineup.

[Allanon]

Bonner in for Duncan? C'mon Pop.

Can't afford to let the Heat go on a run and push this lead higher.

[Spurtacus]

Ugly start...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

this team certainly looks a hell of a lot different to the Spurs i got to watch a fair bit last season.

[Dex]

Pop is usually pretty consistent with sitting Duncan with 3-4 left in the 1st, but...Bonner? Seriously?

Let's spot 'em 15 again, Pop. That seems to be working out well so far this season.

[angelbelow]

our d is so bad..

[stéphane]

good d on TD & TP so far and as we can't bury a J to save our life (yes looking at you Finley) ...

[MannyIsGod]

I just can't stand Finley right now. He's a fucking black hole and he doesn't score. I've just had it.

[mVp]

Huge run by Miami :bang

[timtonymanu]

my god it's a damn home game.

[Juanobili]

Oh man...

[Ice009]

I can't believe this. Pop has completely fucked up.

He made a change which he wanted, but he made the wrong change. He's cut Roger's production by starting him and he's cut Finley's production by brining him off the bench.

I said Finley should be on the bench as third string, not fucking first useless man off the bench. Hill and Farmer should be ahead of him or at least start Udoka or Farmer not Mason. He's made it a two man game now. Tim and Tony. Thanks a lot Pop. Thanks a fucking lot.

[MannyIsGod]

Great. His ankle or knee?

[Juanobili]

please Tony.....

[mVp]

OMG what happened with Tony??

[duncan228]

Oh fuck.

[024]

oooh shitt. parker is down.

[stéphane]

ok now we're screwed...

[angelbelow]

fuck......

[MannyIsGod]

ankle. Well, fuck.

[Ice009]

Oh No Parker Hurt. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

not TP......

you know its' bad when duncan228 swears

[Cant_Be_Faded]

WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL there goes the fucking season.

Hopefully we draft Dexter Pittman :tu

[024]

i'll be jumping on the tanking the season bandwagon.

[davi78239]

Lottery Time

[stéphane]

like playing w/o Manu isn't hard enough...

[Spurtacus]

Fuck.

[Juanobili]

fuck.........

[Spur-Addict]

Looks as though he lifted off the ankle and it was twisted as he lifted.

[Borosai]

Lottery, here we come muddafukka!!!

[Ice009]

I love you Tony. Hope you are OK.

[tav1]

That's not good.

[timtonymanu]

well Hill's in.

[DubMcDub]

Ouch, you could see it on that still photo.

Best wishes to TP.

[Slippy]

un-inspired ball by the spurs.. now Parker's injured.

He appeared to jar his ankle . Not good

[VaSpursFan]

and then TP sprains his ankle....that's at least 2 weeks right there...holy shit.

GO GEORGE HILL

[Spurtacus]

That didn't look good.

George Hill wants to enter the game with his warmup on...

*sigh*

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

ouch, that looked painful

[mVp]

Tanking mode on...

[Juanobili]

Udokaaa

[Spur-Addict]

What is bad is that he put all his weight on the twisted ankle as he lifted.

[mystargtr34]

1. BJ Mullins
2. Dermar Derozan
3. Ricky Rubio

Id say Derozan is the biggest need, then Mullins.

[Admidave50]

Fuck it, the last game TP had a carreer high. Tonight the game is broadcasted in France and it is a total nightmare. The last game on TV here was the blowout loss against Mavs..

[duncan228]

not TP......

you know its' bad when duncan228 swears

It's always my worst fear, for any player not just my Spurs. I hate when they get hurt.

[VaSpursFan]

pop playing all the young kids now...nothing to lose

[lurker]

I hope Tony is okay.

[DubMcDub]

What is bad is that he put all his weight on the twisted ankle as he lifted.

Be thankful it's not a knee.

[stéphane]

I wish TD & Manu would be 2 or 3 years younger so we could tank the season w/o wasting these 2 prime...

[Juanobili]

aw man

I'm sorry for you guys in France :(

[angelbelow]

that looked like a bad sprain.

[Allanon]

1. BJ Mullins
2. Dermar Derozan
3. Ricky Rubio

Id say Derozan is the biggest need, then Mullins.

1. Ricky Rubio
2. Brandon Jennings
3. Dermar

Spurs don't need a PG but you can't pass up on the talent.

[Reck]

The Spurs have no hope.

Pretty sad to see a team like The Spurs struggle this mightily against just about every team they've faced so far.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Man this team his horrible. Anyone not named Tony, Tim, Roger, or Manu should be expendable for sake of making this team better.

Oh, and for about the 100th time this season already, fuck you to Pop and R.C. for assembling such a shitty collection of role players and planning on Finley and Bonner being rotation players.

[hoopdreams11]

Take out Fin not Bonner. They went on a run as soon as Fin entered the game

[stéphane]

aw man

I'm sorry for you guys in France :(

I'm more depressed about the spurs right now, who's gonna take the scoring load?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

It's always my worst fear, for any player not just my Spurs. I hate when they get hurt.

yeh. I have to be honest though, i hate it when it happens to nice guys like TP, but when someone spouts off all the time and gets hurt, then i still feel sorry for them but not as much :lol

I'm sure he will be fine.......

[m33p0]

man, that was ugly.

[angelbelow]

comon hill show us what you got.

[Spur-Addict]

Be thankful it's not a knee.

Yeah, I don't often rationalize to make myself feel better. Bottom line is he is injured to some extent, what that extent is, is all that matters. I'm just pointing out what I see.

[mystargtr34]

1. Ricky Rubio
2. Brandon Jennings
3. Dermar

Spurs don't need a PG but you can't pass up on the talent.

I like Derozan, a full 6'7" and about 220, explosive.

We have TP for the Point we dont need Rubio or Jennings.

[Ice009]

How bad does it look?

Can TP come back?

Jarring is what Manu did to his ankle last season didn't he?

[Fermixalot]

I completely forgot the Spurs were playing today (I was watching Insomnia) and I flip by ESPN to see the Spurs getting dominated THEN I come to this thread to see that Tony hurt himself?

There is no god. I understand now Manu.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Don't worry about Tony going down. Finley will pick up the scoring load................









:lmao

[Dex]

I'm already imagining the apocalyptic threads that will surface tonight.

Unfortunately, they probably won't be too far off base.

[Allanon]

I like Derozan, a full 6'7" and about 220, explosive.

We have TP for the Point we dont need Rubio or Jennings.

Yah, Derozan does look like he can be bad-ass, he just looks raw and can go the way of Kobe or Gerald Green.

Ricky looks solid, Jennings looks like the next AI.

[Slippy]

If there was a positive to take out of that awful quarter was that Tim had some easy basket inside the key that he would normally make. Spurs gotta keep going into him.

[024]

I'm already imagining the apocalyptic threads that will surface tonight.

Unfortunately, they probably won't be too far off base.

yeah, this time the panicking will be justified.

[timtonymanu]

fuckin finley

[Spurtacus]

Finley building cheap houses again.

[stéphane]

If there was a positive to take out of that awful quarter was that Tim had some easy basket inside the key that he would normally make. Spurs gotta keep going into him.

The game is already over :rolleyes

[timtonymanu]

udoka three!

[DubMcDub]

How bad does it look?

Can TP come back?

Jarring is what Manu did to his ankle last season didn't he?

TP will not be coming back tonight. He'll be lucky to come back within the next 2 weeks, from the looks of it.

[jayc23]

god damn this sucks

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

its like the two teams have switched bodies

[Allanon]

Brick city.

[mVp]

Nice block by Hill...

[jayc23]

Defense

[VaSpursFan]

this is some ugly ass basketball...but that was a good block by hill

[angelbelow]

nice block.

[m33p0]

when was the last time you've seen the Spurs on the court without Tim, Tony or Manu?

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Hill!

[spursfan09]

:(

Damn. At least we have a legit reason to be 1-4 with TP and Manu both out.

[Allanon]

Was that Hill that shot that last 3 pointer? Damn that was off.

[E20]

Spurs are hella good.

[mVp]

Any news on Tony??

[Slippy]

Was that Hill that shot that last 3 pointer? Damn that was off.


Yah he built a house with that 3. actually he getting a lot help.

ball in hole some-one. Farmer looking shy as well.

[Spur-Addict]

Was that Hill that shot that last 3 pointer? Damn that was off.

You know what you saw. :lol

Park may be out for the game, no report yet or anything. We may have an NBA Live curse ala Madden.

[Ice009]

II"VE BEEN SCREAMING TO BENCH MICHAEL.

Michael Finley is killing us. fuck it he's not even good enough to be third string anymore. Drop him down to 4th string inactive list.

I've been screaming to start Ime. Ime already has more points tonight than Michael has in the last two games combined in about 1/10 of the minutes. Plus he rebounds and plays better D.

[boutons_]

Spurs may not break 60

what a waste of a Friday night.

[mystargtr34]

Was that Hill that shot that last 3 pointer? Damn that was off.

He said he wanted to get a trade in bricklaying if he wasnt an NBA player.

[tav1]

Any news on Tony??

He won't get 55 tonight.

[Spurtacus]

Spurs may not break 60

what a waste of a Friday night.

I assume TP doesn't return. 72 points tonight.

[Allanon]

Yah he built a house with that 3. actually he getting a lot help.

ball in hole some-one. Farmer looking shy as well.

Hill's a helluva defender but man, that shot....... :D

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I wonder how many times we have to look like ass before Pop will get the clue that we need athletes on the block and scorers on the perimeter, not 45 year old wily veterans that are running in concrete.

[boutons_]

Tony with an unforced ankle twist, just put his foot down wrong.

[jayc23]

looking at hills shot.. I think hes slightly rattled by TP going down... I think the reality of what hes facing is going to have to sink in.

[mVp]

Farmer!

[benefactor]

Farmer dammit.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

the heat just cant miss

[Allanon]

Nice 3 by Farmer.

[HarlemHeat37]

we're getting embarrassed by Chris Quinn LOL..

[Allanon]

Duncan's gonna get 50

[Borosai]

Udoka is playing well tonight.

Farmer > Finley

[024]

udoka stepping up.

[benefactor]

Xrays negative on Parker

[Allanon]

I'm not going to talk about HIll's layup, he's playing good D.

[Spur-Addict]

ANkle Sprain out for game. Neg X-Ray

[jayc23]

well he missed the lay up but his defense is not denied.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

here come the Spurs, and it starts with the D

[HarlemHeat37]

Hill has so much potential..I know he needs to work on his shot a lot, and his finish ability..but he's so quick and athletic, he's gonna be a good player..

[VaSpursFan]

g. hill is truly a beast on the defensive end. if his offense catches up...he's gonna be a solid player

[tav1]

Hill will be twice the player he is now next season. His offense should be more refined by then. A see a long summer with Uncle Chip in his future.

[Spurs Brazil]

Great D by Hill

[Allanon]

ANkle Sprain out for game. Neg X-Ray

That was quick...you hear it on the radio?

[mystargtr34]

He should have finished that lay up, come on.

[SpursFan0728]

Udoka is playing well tonight.

Farmer > Finley

can't agree more

[Borosai]

Can you imagine how Barry felt sitting on the far end of the bench while Finley was starting?

[m33p0]

good thing duncan doesn't have to defend anyone in particular in this game.

[Spur-Addict]

I'm not going to talk about HIll's layup, he's playing good D.

You just did. In fact you have been mentioning him a bit. But you are being a nice annoyance if that's possible. :D

[Slippy]

Ok Tim is taking charge and dominating inside. Heat frontline can't keep him out of keyway.

Smallball line-up working. Farmer and Udoka stepping up. Just need stops

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan's gonna need 50 tonight, and I'm being serious..

ride him all night..we have 4 days off..

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Anyone from around the world watching this? Please PM me.

[Allanon]

You just did. In fact you have been mentioning him a bit. But you are being a nice annoyance if that's possible. :D

Hahah.

I've been impressed with Hill's D since pre-season, not too high on his offense, but I guess you can tell hahah.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

That was quick...you hear it on the radio?

ESPN.

[Spur-Addict]

That was quick...you hear it on the radio?

On Espn, during the game actually. Same as you I guess, just a fast type.

[Spurtacus]

Blown chance to get it to 10. We need this under 10 at the half.

[Borosai]

I love this small lineup.

Hill
Mason
Farmer
Udoka
Duncan

Young and attacking.

[m33p0]

"this is a bad performance so far. you got an open shot you gotta take it!"
-Pop

damn right! shoot the freaking rock!

[HarlemHeat37]

I like seeing this lineup too, but too many poor decision makers..

we need defense..Ginobili and Parker not playing doesn't excuse poor defense..

[Borosai]

Tolliver sighting.

[mVp]

Nice D by Mason.

[m33p0]

they keep missing TD in the lane.

[jayc23]

well atleast george didn't air ball

[m33p0]

D!

[HarlemHeat37]

what a terrible time for Roger to go on a cold streak..he was due though..

[PerforatedNeckline]

if mason could buy a bucket tonight, we'd be right in this thing...

[Allanon]

This is probably the Spurs best defensive lineup on the floor right now.

[m33p0]

nobody shoot the ball unless your name is Tim Duncan or Roger Mason, Jr.

[HarlemHeat37]

Chris Quinn..come on..

[boutons_]

Mason 0-4,

[HarlemHeat37]

Tolliver!!! beautiful play..

[mVp]

Great play by Tolliver!!!

[jayc23]

That Was Awesome!

[Spur-Addict]

Nice pass Tolli

[024]

tolliver should have shot that. role players have to step up and not depend on duncan.

[Spurtacus]

Nice pass by Toll.

Still hangin' in there.

[jayc23]

Whoa Tolliver

[Spurtacus]

WTF was that. Even Marion was shocked to receive a new house.

[PerforatedNeckline]

i know there are a lot of negatives, but i'm sort of loving this game...

[HarlemHeat37]

Tolliver ruins his good play with a terrible shot..not only did he miss completely, but it was just a bad shot in general..

[Borosai]

Tolliver: good D, ugly shot.

[m33p0]

nice!

[Allanon]

Ouch. Got damn brick layers out in force tonight.

[Spur-Addict]

Oh geez, he didn't even touch the rim haahaaa

[Ice009]

I have a feeling that Tolliver is a bad shooter. Tim said he was rushing his shots in the preseason well he just fucking rushed that one like crazy. bad, bad shot.

[mystargtr34]

:lmao Tolliver

[ace3g]

that didn't look like his normal shot , I think he rushed it, probably nervous, because he didn't shoot like that form wise in the Summer league

[Slippy]

Tolliver Wtf was that.. Sheez. Too much adrenalin on that shot.

Gotta keep going into Timmy!!!

[Big Wes]

tolliver should have shot that. role players have to step up and not depend on duncan.

After seeing that 2nd shot, I can see why he didn't.

[m33p0]

way way off line.

[VaSpursFan]

tolliver shot a brick but he has already shown he has a higher basketball IQ than Bonner with the nifty pass to timmy

[Cant_Be_Faded]

George Hill is not looking (tonight) like the spurshomers say he's going to be, but anyone, haters and homers alike, have to admit, that thus far he has been impressive with his composure.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Damn y'all need to settle down. It's his first NBA game, dude's probably got enough adrenaline pumping through those veins to throw a small vehicle 23'9".

[HarlemHeat37]

our defense looks better, but we're still giving them too many open shots, specifically Quinn, since that's ALL he can do effectively..

[toki9]

Tolliver looks short...

[Borosai]

Too many lazy passes.

[benefactor]

No foul...

[Spur-Addict]

JVG might be the most honest announcer on TV.

[Warlord23]

Too many people afraid to shoot (and with good reason, too)

[Borosai]

This should help Tolliver

http://guidesarchive.ign.com/guides/569/images/diazepam.jpg

[benefactor]

Bad foul by Udoka

[Spurtacus]

So much for getting it under 10 at the half.

[mVp]

OMG Quinn... are you kidding me?

[Bender]

is that a burn mark on udoka's arm?

[hoopdreams11]

PLEASE get fin out of there

[boutons_]

spurs shooting 34% . they could hit 40%, they'd be in the game and have a chance. offense sucks

[Quiet Strength]

PLEASE get fin out of there

Miami seems to play better with him in the game

[Bender]

spurs looking like the old Keystone Kops silent comedies...

[mVp]

Fuck this game.

[Allanon]

That's a brutal half.

[boutons_]

tough night to be a Spurs fan

[Dex]

No joke. That was honestly one of the shittiest halves of basketball I think I've ever sat through.

[benefactor]

Ghost Writer will have many new disciples after this game...

[Amuseddaysleeper]

tough season to be a Spurs fan

[Fermixalot]

Chris Quinn has 12 points. All on wide open 3 pointers.

Wow. Perimeter guys have to take their shots, someone has to step up. And big.

[Ice009]

Why the fuck wasn't Hill out there at the end of the quarter?

Why was Finley out there. Farmer was open for three and Mason got his pass intercepted. fucking awful.

Hill is a better defender than Michael I'd rather have Hill guarding a SF than Michael.

And STOP FUCKING LETTING CHRIS QUINN get open shots. This is the same guy that Shaq said in an insult to be on the court with him. Chris fucking QUINN.

[toki9]

Parket gets hurt, we're down by 18, Farmer, Tolliver and Hill all look rattled, Mason seems to be out of synch...did i miss anything?

[Chomag]

Spurs losing this has nothing to do with them not having Manu or parker...

[boutons_]

Spurs might break 60 pts, go Spurs go.

[Spurs Brazil]

That's tough to watch

We have so many bad things that I don't know what is worst

[SpursFan0728]

Parket gets hurt, we're down by 18, Farmer, Tolliver and Hill all look rattled, Mason seems to be out of synch...did i miss anything?

hill didn't look rattled

[Chomag]

We might should just forget about even trying to be a defencive team and be like the old Phoenix run and gun offense only system.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Parker is still possible for the next game right? How bad is the injury?

[angelbelow]

tolliver doesnt look good.

[bdictjames]

Tim Duncan cant defend nowadays as well, and why is Bowen playing less minutes? We need him out there.

[Ice009]

Can you imagine how Barry felt sitting on the far end of the bench while Finley was starting?

Man that has got to be the reason Brent left. I know how Brent feels now. I really, really do. Pop dissed Brent bad by playing Michael ahead of him last season. Did you see Brent's emotion and heart in last seasons playoffs Vs Michael last season You know Brent had to be pissed off.

[Gino2882]

Parket gets hurt, we're down by 18, Farmer, Tolliver and Hill all look rattled, Mason seems to be out of synch...did i miss anything?

That about covers it...Spurs facing 1-4 in the tough west.

[Biggems]

my first half assessment:

losing Parker was brutal....i hope he only misses the remainder of this game, based on how severe that looked.

Duncan is playing well, but has missed a few close range shots....btw, he has been hacked on a few shots and didn't get the call.

Mason is having a rare off night, but he gets a pass.....cant be hot every night. Sure wish he would heat up in the second half.

Finley sucks. Farmer can't shoot. Tolliver is playing some heady basketball.

Maybe we should cover Quinn. He is on fire. Beasley is playing well too.....sure wish Duncan could get the calls Beasley (a rookie) is getting.

That Miami coach doesn't look like a coach to me....he looks like some pretty boy straight from CSI Miami.

[boutons_]

At the half, 1 Spur has more than 4 pts :lol

[tav1]

Pop won't play Pop until he's 100%, I'd guess. Could be days, could be a few weeks. All depends.

[Slippy]

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Finley is letting the team down bigtime. Aside from 0-offense, on that second last play before the half he missed a wide open Tim in the keway. For an exprienced guy he makes too many mistakes. He's a liability on both ends. Pop needs to put him on ice.

Mase hasn't done anything right so far. He can't play any worse than that . Hopefully he steps up in the second half.

[Allanon]

No Manu and no Parker. At some point Duncan must have looked at the guys around him on the court and thought "Who the F* are these guys?"

"I love playing for this coach and I love playing with these guys," said O'Neal yesterday. "We have professionals who know what to do. No one is asking me to play with Chris Quinn or Ricky Davis. I'm actually on a team again."

[Ice009]

hill didn't look rattled

He did a bit when Parker first went down, but that is to be expected.

Tim needs to settle down everyone at the half and tell them to relax and play ball. Everyone of those young guys is feeling the pressure because they're on the Spurs and we need to win. They're probably thinking I need to do it all and help us win. They're probably trying to do too much and rush things out there a little bit.

Tim needs to settle them down. We can still win this game. It all starts with defense though.

Also, I'd rather see Bonner out there than Michael. If this keeps going on I think I might start to believe this man crush theory ;)

[tomtom]

Damn this is horrible

[tav1]

If Parker is out for a couple weeks, I hope Pop gives big minutes to all the young guys.

[Warlord23]

You know things are bad when Ime Udoka is your # 2 scorer in the first half.

That, and the defense is :yield

[Kobayagi]

Pop won't play Pop until he's 100%, I'd guess.

?

[polandprzem]

If Parker is out for a couple weeks, I hope Pop gives big minutes to all the young guys.

One guy out changing eveything?

[tav1]

?

My bad. "Pop won't play Parker..."