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Fabbs
11-14-2008, 12:53 AM
No posts from monoslob on Bret Favres leading the Jets down to the game winning field goal. Does Mom shut the lights out on your basement at 9? Or did the group home manager tell you to put "Tom" away and order you and stench to keep it quiet?

And go ahead and bag on the Chargers all you want genius. A Norvron team will never ever win the SuperBowl. I accept that.

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 01:07 AM
I also didn't say shit about them beating Buffalo last week. I noticed you didn't either. So you're telling me that you aren't around when the Patriots win, but you troll around like a faggot anytime they lose? Nice one asshole.

And I can give a fuck less if you try to minimize this -

Patriots 6-4
Chargers 4-5

So fuck off, Faggs.

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 01:13 AM
And this screws a lot of teams, so it's not like I'm whining about my team only....but they've gotta do something about this bullshit overtime format.

SAtown
11-14-2008, 01:54 AM
The Pats were banged up as hell and still looked like they were going to win. The same old Jets almost blew the big lead in the 2nd half, and the same old Pats came back poised and almost won the game. NE was extremely short-handed, but damn it still feels good the Jets finally beat them

bostonguy
11-14-2008, 02:03 AM
Jets played great and they shouldnt have needed ot to win but they got it regardless.

bostonguy
11-14-2008, 02:04 AM
And this screws a lot of teams, so it's not like I'm whining about my team only....but they've gotta do something about this bullshit overtime format.

I like the ot format. Get a D if you cant stop the team from driving on your in overtime.

J.T.
11-14-2008, 04:43 AM
I thought it was pretty pathetic of NE to piss away that sick touchdown that Randy Moss caught at the end of regulation by letting Favre throw pass after pass to Keller for first downs. Didn't they sack him twice and have the Jets pinned deep near their end zone with a 3rd and 25 or something? That was a really poor effort by their defense.

Another thing NE shot themselves in the foot with by losing this game, other than the division lead, is that Indy now owns a tiebreaker over them if the Pats can't regain the lead in the AFC East. That's if the Colts win on Sunday but I really fucking doubt Sage Rosenfels has gotten over the mindfuck that happened to him when he choked against the Colts earlier this year.

J.T.
11-14-2008, 04:52 AM
No posts from monoslob on Bret Favres leading the Jets down to the game winning field goal. Does Mom shut the lights out on your basement at 9? Or did the group home manager tell you to put "Tom" away and order you and stench to keep it quiet?

And go ahead and bag on the Chargers all you want genius. A Norvron team will never ever win the SuperBowl. I accept that.

Dude your team has lost to Denver, Miami, Buffalo and New Orleans and has two almost losses to KC and Oakland... You shouldn't be talking shit to any fans of a team with a better record than yours with that laundry list of shit teams that have put their mark on your team's L column.

stretch
11-14-2008, 09:10 AM
And this screws a lot of teams, so it's not like I'm whining about my team only....but they've gotta do something about this bullshit overtime format.

teams could try cheating... like the patriots.

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 09:19 AM
teams could try cheating... like the patriots.

Or they could hire a new head coach every 3 weeks and rack up massive 77 offensive yard totals every week.

stretch
11-14-2008, 09:54 AM
Or they could hire a new head coach every 3 weeks and rack up massive 77 offensive yard totals every week.

lol, insecure

speaking of... is there a more insecure fan in this forum than Mono? I mean he puts the ridiculously insecure kobe fans to shame with all his knobslobbing of the patriots.

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 10:02 AM
lol, insecure

speaking of... is there a more insecure fan in this forum than Mono? I mean he puts the ridiculously insecure kobe fans to shame with all his knobslobbing of the patriots.

is there anybody on this forum who talks more pointless bullshit than stretch? let's not forget how your own team sucks ass, so you dickride Donovan McNabb and the Titans hardcore.

stretch
11-14-2008, 10:15 AM
is there anybody on this forum who talks more pointless bullshit than stretch? let's not forget how your own team sucks ass, so you dickride Donovan McNabb and the Titans hardcore.

lol, case in point

lol, insecure

lol, spygate

lol, 18-1

lol, eli

lol, tyree

lol, 17-14

lol, plaxico's prediction

lol, brady's laugh

lol, brady's sack

lol, biggest chokejob in sports history


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/ouzomonster/Steelers/PATHETICS/cheaties.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r10/snickel1/justin-tuck-sack.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f321/reale22/AAJH112David-Tyree-Super-Bowl-XLII-.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn54/g8tor24/Eli-Manning-Super-Bowl-XLII-MVP.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j194/rblanchette_9/BradyDisappointed.jpg

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 10:19 AM
^good post, it's only like the 100th time you've done the exact same thing.

Seriously, do you contribute anything besides shit talk? I love talking crap as much as anyone else, but I also enjoy actual discussions every so often. As far as I can see, all you do is talk shit, no matter what. And let's not mention your incredibly faggy obsession with JamStone in the basketball forum. Unless you can show me otherwise, it looks like you bring nothing of substance, and that's just sad. You can do what you like, but you're definitely one of the gayest fucking posters on this site now.

Fabbs
11-14-2008, 10:23 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/ouzomonster/Steelers/PATHETICS/cheaties.jpg
nice.

stretch
11-14-2008, 10:52 AM
^good post, it's only like the 100th time you've done the exact same thing.

Seriously, do you contribute anything besides shit talk? I love talking crap as much as anyone else, but I also enjoy actual discussions every so often. As far as I can see, all you do is talk shit, no matter what. And let's not mention your incredibly faggy obsession with JamStone in the basketball forum. Unless you can show me otherwise, it looks like you bring nothing of substance, and that's just sad. You can do what you like, but you're definitely one of the gayest fucking posters on this site now.

lol, insecure

IronMexican
11-14-2008, 11:02 AM
How do you become a Pats fan? Do you just declare it?

stretch
11-14-2008, 11:08 AM
How do you become a Pats fan? Do you just declare it?

You have to wait till they start winning titles, then root for them, like 99.9% of their fanbase did.

IronMexican
11-14-2008, 11:14 AM
No need to pretend I was living in Boston at one time in my life? Sweet!

Obstructed_View
11-14-2008, 03:24 PM
And this screws a lot of teams, so it's not like I'm whining about my team only....but they've gotta do something about this bullshit overtime format.

What part don't you like? It's been done that way forever, which is one reason I like it. I seem to recall that statistically the team that wins the toss doesn't necessarily win the game more often. The deferring option or giving the home team some extra advantage might be cool, but there should be no reason to tweak it further than that. There's really not a better way of doing it.

It beats the shit out of the college format, which takes the kicking game and special teams completely out of the equation. And it's an order of magnitude above hockey, which is kind of like having a dunk contest to decide basketball games.

stretch
11-14-2008, 03:30 PM
What part don't you like? It's been done that way forever, which is one reason I like it. I seem to recall that statistically the team that wins the toss doesn't necessarily win the game more often. The deferring option or giving the home team some extra advantage might be cool, but there should be no reason to tweak it further than that. There's really not a better way of doing it.

It beats the shit out of the college format, which takes the kicking game and special teams completely out of the equation. And it's an order of magnitude above hockey, which is kind of like having a dunk contest to decide basketball games.

I say they should just have an 8 minute period of football with shorter play clocks. Makes it more fair like the basketball format but gives you more chances with the shorter play clock.

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 03:34 PM
How do you become a Pats fan? Do you just declare it?

:lmao Laker fan has no room to talk. Your fanbase is nothing but bandwagoning faggots.

stretch
11-14-2008, 03:37 PM
:lmao Laker fan has no room to talk. Your fanbase is nothing but bandwagoning faggots.

Lol true, but he's also a Raiders fan, so I strongly doubt he could be a bandwagonner.

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 03:39 PM
What part don't you like? It's been done that way forever, which is one reason I like it. I seem to recall that statistically the team that wins the toss doesn't necessarily win the game more often. The deferring option or giving the home team some extra advantage might be cool, but there should be no reason to tweak it further than that. There's really not a better way of doing it.

It beats the shit out of the college format, which takes the kicking game and special teams completely out of the equation. And it's an order of magnitude above hockey, which is kind of like having a dunk contest to decide basketball games.

The college format is retarded, but the NFL at least needs to give both teams a chance. How can it be done? I don't know, but the NFL isn't paying me to come up with a solution.

And the whole "your defense just needs to step up" is a stupid argument. In the NFL these days and the rules set up, offenses are already at an advantage. And after playing four quarters of football, any defense is going to be worn out. Sure, there's times where defenses do step up on OT, but for the most part the game is decided by the coin flip.

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 03:41 PM
Lol true, but he's also a Raiders fan, so I strongly doubt he could be a bandwagonner.

doesn't matter. Laker Fan = bandwagoning douche, end of story.

SAtown
11-14-2008, 03:46 PM
Didn't they sack him twice and have the Jets pinned deep near their end zone with a 3rd and 25 or something?


It was 3rd and 15, but yes, 1nd and 2nd resulted in loss of yardage, and ALL the momentum was going NE's way. Keller also redeemed himself for dropping the wide-open endzone catch in regulation by catching 3 straight in overtime.

I still think Bellichick should have gone for 2 after Moss scored the TD. A successful attempt would have absolutely ripped the heart out of the Jets franchise and send them back into misery. Thank God he wasn't his coldblooded self last night

IronMexican
11-14-2008, 03:48 PM
Some Laker fans might be, but i'm not one of them, unlike you, I can stick with my team. Who was you're team before last year anyways?

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 03:48 PM
It was 3rd and 15, but yes, 1nd and 2nd resulted in loss of yardage, and ALL the momentum was going NE's way. Keller also redeemed himself for dropping the wide-open endzone catch in regulation by catching 3 straight in overtime.

I still think Bellichick should have gone for 2 after Moss scored the TD. A successful attempt would have absolutely ripped the heart out of the Jets franchise and send them back into misery. Thank God he wasn't his coldblooded self last night

Yeah considering how wildly inconsistent the defense had been, going for two would have been a good choice. Plus, he's Bill Belichick, not Herm Edwards, so nobody would have called him an idiot for doing it.

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 03:49 PM
Some Laker fans might be, but i'm not one of them, unlike you, I can stick with my team. Who was you're team before last year anyways?

Laker fan = bandwagoner

IronMexican
11-14-2008, 04:03 PM
That's the best you could do? Weak. Just cause you're a band wagon pussy fagot.

J.T.
11-14-2008, 04:21 PM
lol, case in point

lol, insecure

lol, spygate

lol, 18-1

lol, eli

lol, tyree

lol, 17-14

lol, plaxico's prediction

lol, brady's laugh

lol, brady's sack

lol, biggest chokejob in sports history


You forgot:

lol, 38-34

lol, blown 18 point first half lead

lol, peyton

lol, addai walks into endzone

lol, bigger choke job than super bowl 42

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/don_banks/01/22/colts.patriots/Manning.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/_photos/2007-02-01-topper-addai.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2007/01/21/topper-colts.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/487035897_9625812393.jpg

http://english.people.com.cn/200702/06/images/0205_B28.jpg

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 04:27 PM
That's the best you could do? Weak. Just cause you're a band wagon pussy fagot.

Weak is bringing up bandwagoning talk in the first place you little bitch. There is no bigger pussy faggot move than to try and talk bandwagoner shit. Especially when you're a fucking Lakers fan.

stretch
11-14-2008, 04:48 PM
You forgot:

lol, 38-34

lol, blown 18 point first half lead

lol, peyton

lol, addai walks into endzone

lol, bigger choke job than super bowl 42

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/don_banks/01/22/colts.patriots/Manning.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/_photos/2007-02-01-topper-addai.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2007/01/21/topper-colts.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/487035897_9625812393.jpg

http://english.people.com.cn/200702/06/images/0205_B28.jpg

Yeah, I was going to do all that too, but figured the Giants game was enough. lol

bostonguy
11-14-2008, 05:25 PM
You forgot:

lol, 38-34

lol, blown 18 point first half lead

lol, peyton

lol, addai walks into endzone

lol, bigger choke job than super bowl 42

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/don_banks/01/22/colts.patriots/Manning.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/_photos/2007-02-01-topper-addai.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2007/01/21/topper-colts.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/487035897_9625812393.jpg

http://english.people.com.cn/200702/06/images/0205_B28.jpg



lol 24-14 2004 afc title game

lol 20-3 2005 afc divisional game

lol Peyton Manning throwing picks vs Pats D in those games

lol Mike Vanderjagt

lol Tony Dungy

lol chargers

lol Billy Volek

lol Anthony Gonzalez

lol Jim Sorgi

bostonguy
11-14-2008, 05:29 PM
lol, case in point

lol, insecure

lol, spygate

lol, 18-1

lol, eli

lol, tyree

lol, 17-14

lol, plaxico's prediction

lol, brady's laugh

lol, brady's sack

lol, biggest chokejob in sports history


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/ouzomonster/Steelers/PATHETICS/cheaties.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r10/snickel1/justin-tuck-sack.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f321/reale22/AAJH112David-Tyree-Super-Bowl-XLII-.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn54/g8tor24/Eli-Manning-Super-Bowl-XLII-MVP.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j194/rblanchette_9/BradyDisappointed.jpg



lol raiders

lol al davis

lol 16-13 2002 divisional game

lol David Patten's 4th down OT catch in 2002 divisional game

lol Charles Woodson

lol Tampa Bay

lol 48-21

lol Rich Gannon

lol Rich Gannon in the superbowl

lol Jerry Rice yelling "WTF is going on!" in the superbowl

Obstructed_View
11-14-2008, 05:59 PM
but for the most part the game is decided by the coin flip.

But it really isn't. Since 1974, only 28 percent of games are won on the first possession by the team that wins the coin toss. That means both teams get a chance the majority of the time, so poof goes your complaint.

Teams at the end of close games play for overtime anyway, so if you change the format, teams are still going to play for the tie. That's why the college overtime requires you to go for two at some point because coaches will almost always play the odds, which means being conservative, which means a thousand overtimes until someone makes a mistake. The last thing the NFL wants is for someone to get hurt playing garbage time in an extended overtime period.

monosylab1k
11-14-2008, 06:11 PM
But it really isn't. Since 1974, only 28 percent of games are won on the first possession by the team that wins the coin toss.

So you're telling me 1 out of every 4 teams don't get a fair chance in overtime.

BUMP
11-14-2008, 06:40 PM
I say they should just have an 8 minute period of football with shorter play clocks. Makes it more fair like the basketball format but gives you more chances with the shorter play clock.

nah, there would be a lot of ties.


lol raiders


lol Robert Gallery

lol Aaron Brooks

lol 2-14

lol Art Shell

lol Tom Cable

lol Mike Williams

lol 48-21

lol no playoff games since

lol 17 game division losing streak

lol Jarrod Page

lol D'Angelo Hall

lol Bill Romanowski

lol Jeff George

lol Randy Moss succeeding in NE

lol Daunte Culpepper

lol 2-7

lol maybe next year

DBryant88
11-14-2008, 06:53 PM
lol raiders

lol al davis

lol 16-13 2002 divisional game

lol David Patten's 4th down OT catch in 2002 divisional game

lol Charles Woodson

lol Tampa Bay

lol 48-21

lol Rich Gannon

lol Rich Gannon in the superbowl

lol Jerry Rice yelling "WTF is going on!" in the superbowl

you forgot Jamarcus Russel LMAO

IronMexican
11-14-2008, 07:01 PM
And I'm not one of those weak ass band wagon fans. I'll stick with my team through the shitter. Now, what was you're team before last year, pussy.

Obstructed_View
11-14-2008, 07:16 PM
So you're telling me 1 out of every 4 teams don't get a fair chance in overtime.

No, I'm telling you that your statement that "for the most part, the game is decided by the coin flip" is completely wrong. In no way is 1 out of 4 anywhere close to "for the most part".

If it's so completely unfair, then why didn't the Greatest Coach in NFL History go for two after Moss' touchdown? He had the game to win on one play, and he decided that his odds were better in overtime.

Obstructed_View
11-14-2008, 07:21 PM
I say they should just have an 8 minute period of football with shorter play clocks. Makes it more fair like the basketball format but gives you more chances with the shorter play clock.

If you're trying to make it more fair, you can't do that. First of all, if you make the play clock shorter, then teams will have trouble making substitutions and getting plays in because they practice the entire year for that play clock. It also gives some teams advantages over others simply based on their personnel. You could say that you can only run out of the shotgun or the I formation in overtime and it wouldn't be any less unfair.

stretch
11-14-2008, 09:42 PM
lol raiders

lol al davis

lol 16-13 2002 divisional game

lol David Patten's 4th down OT catch in 2002 divisional game

lol Charles Woodson

lol Tampa Bay

lol 48-21

lol Rich Gannon

lol Rich Gannon in the superbowl

lol Jerry Rice yelling "WTF is going on!" in the superbowl

18*-1

:lmao

stretch
11-14-2008, 09:43 PM
lol Robert Gallery

lol Aaron Brooks

lol 2-14

lol Art Shell

lol Tom Cable

lol Mike Williams

lol 48-21

lol no playoff games since

lol 17 game division losing streak

lol Jarrod Page

lol D'Angelo Hall

lol Bill Romanowski

lol Jeff George

lol Randy Moss succeeding in NE

lol Daunte Culpepper

lol 2-7

lol maybe next year


you forgot Jamarcus Russel LMAO

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/cantu84/romocrying.jpg

:lmao

stretch
11-14-2008, 09:44 PM
If you're trying to make it more fair, you can't do that. First of all, if you make the play clock shorter, then teams will have trouble making substitutions and getting plays in because they practice the entire year for that play clock. It also gives some teams advantages over others simply based on their personnel. You could say that you can only run out of the shotgun or the I formation in overtime and it wouldn't be any less unfair.

Fine, then just an entire 15 minute period. Its the farest and most unbiased way possible.

IronMexican
11-14-2008, 09:46 PM
College format is the best, imo. Both teams get chances to score, then you have to start going for two. It would be nice if they pushed the line of scrimmage to start it at like the 40.

Obstructed_View
11-14-2008, 11:51 PM
Fine, then just an entire 15 minute period. Its the farest and most unbiased way possible.

It really is, but I don't think the players union would go for having to beat the shit out of themselves for an extra quarter. You'd almost be better off eliminating overtime altogether or counting only a half a win for an overtime victory.

Overtime as it is is a gut-check. It's like the kick at the end of a distance run. It's the ultimate in pressure. It's 60 minutes of back breaking work that can be for nothing in a single play. That's why you feel so fucking lousy about your team losing it. You'd feel equally great if they'd won, and you know it.

That's what makes it great.

Fabbs
11-15-2008, 12:17 PM
No, I'm telling you that your statement that "for the most part, the game is decided by the coin flip" is completely wrong. In no way is 1 out of 4 anywhere close to "for the most part".

If it's so completely unfair, then why didn't the Greatest Coach in NFL History go for two after Moss' touchdown? He had the game to win on one play, and he decided that his odds were better in overtime.
owned

san antonio spurs
11-16-2008, 01:33 AM
The raiders' line of "lol maybe next year" was the best one thus far LOL.

IronMexican
11-16-2008, 01:43 AM
The raiders' line of "lol maybe next year" was the best one thus far LOL.

That's what 31 teams go in saying at the end of the year.

Obstructed_View
11-16-2008, 11:29 AM
owned

Shut up, dumbass. If you want to antagonize people, start your own fucking topics to do it instead of trying to piggyback of mine to degenerate this forum even further. Mono and I were discussing football.

Fabbs
11-16-2008, 01:08 PM
having a discussion with mono.
right.

take a midol.

BUMP
11-16-2008, 04:59 PM
That's what 31 teams go in saying at the end of the year.

Raiders say it after 3 games LOL

IronMexican
11-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Raiders say it after 3 games LOL

We were actually doing pretty good and staying competetive till Kiffin was fired.

J.T.
11-16-2008, 05:39 PM
The Raiders don't say "maybe next year". They say "maybe when Al Davis dies"