Scola thread!

[ShoogarBear]

Because we need one.

[Dex]

James Gist?

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Because we need one.

One? This important point of discussion requires at least three. But thank you for having the internet sports savvy to bring this up.

[anakha]

After that dunk: Bonner > Scola. :lol

[ShoogarBear]

As I was saying . . . Bonner thread!

[phxspurfan]

Guy is gone! If we had Splitter we wouldnt even be talking about this guy!

What? Nonsense. We would be comparing the two 24-7. In fact, we can compare them now. Scola > Splitter.

[ducks]

booner is owning scola tonight

[ducks]

booner the last 5 games has not been bad

[ducks]

I never said he wasnt.I said Scola is thousands times better tham him.
so,what's your point about Bonner not being bad???
We still losing by 20.

scola on the spurs would not even get booner minutes unless duncan is hurt

[AFBlue]

You know what would be better....if we also talked 2010!

SCOLA IN 2010!

[ducks]

right there is where u failed.
Scola would've helped us tonite with his low post scoring and ball movement. Duncan can't play all 48 mins. Scola even as a Buckup would've contribute in the post tonite.

duncan has played 35 -40 minutes a night
and scola has a whole 5 points tonight adn 3 big rebounds
wow

[anakha]

Scola had 11 pts. u dork and i would like to see how many of Bonner's points were on garbage time.

Did Bonner even play in the 4th quarter?

[anjlbitz]

Scola had 11 pts. u dork and i would like to see how many of Bonner's points were on garbage time.

Did you watch the game? Bonner wasn't even in garbage time

[ShoogarBear]

Your Ph.D. is honorary, I take it.

[timvp]

Trade Parker!


Scola thread!

Shoog doing his Thanksgiving :stirpot: on SpursTalk.

[ShoogarBear]

What? If we traded Parker for Scola, two problems would be solved.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lmao

[Tmac&Luther]

scola on the spurs would not even get booner minutes unless duncan is hurt

I'm not trying to rub anything in, but this argument above has always puzzled me....So I really need to ask this question.

Why the hell do Spurs fans act like Scola wouldn't see the floor if he played for the Spurs? I mean really.........just curious.

Oberto is 6-10 and 245 pounds.....he played 16 minutes tonight and averages 20 on the season

Kurt Thomas is even smaller at 6-9 235 pounds.....he played 15 minutes tonight and averages 14 on the season

Luis Scola who switches off at the PF AND CENTER position for us is listed at 6-9 and 245 pounds (so he's more stout than Oberto and way bigger than Thomas). Scola would have no problem getting minutes even with Duncan on the floor if he played for the Spurs.

As for the "he only had 11 points and 3 rebounds" argument......well Yao only had 12 points and 1 rebound tonight so what's the point? Houston was hitting all their shots....wasn't really alot of rebounds to be grabbed tonight.

Look at Scola's past games before tonight...he doesn't have a problem scoring and grabbing rebounds.

[Buddy Holly]

how many of Bonner's points were on garbage time.

None.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I'm not trying to rub anything in, but this argument above has always puzzled me....So I really need to ask this question.

Why the hell do Spurs fans act like Scola wouldn't see the floor if he played for the Spurs? I mean really.........just curious.

Oberto is 6-10 and 245 pounds.....he played 16 minutes tonight and averages 20 on the season

Kurt Thomas is even smaller at 6-9 235 pounds.....he played 15 minutes tonight and averages 14 on the season

Luis Scola who switches off at the PF AND CENTER position for us is listed at 6-9 and 245 pounds (so he's more stout than Oberto and way bigger than Thomas). Scola would have no problem getting minutes even with Duncan on the floor if he played for the Spurs.

As for the "he only had 11 points and 3 rebounds" argument......well Yao only had 12 points and 1 rebound tonight so what's the point? Houston was hitting all their shots....wasn't really alot of rebounds to be grabbed tonight.

Look at Scola's past games before tonight...he doesn't have a problem scoring and grabbing rebounds.

Dude, it's ducks.

[ducks]

I'm not trying to rub anything in, but this argument above has always puzzled me....So I really need to ask this question.

Why the hell do Spurs fans act like Scola wouldn't see the floor if he played for the Spurs? I mean really.........just curious.

Oberto is 6-10 and 245 pounds.....he played 16 minutes tonight and averages 20 on the season

Kurt Thomas is even smaller at 6-9 235 pounds.....he played 15 minutes tonight and averages 14 on the season

Luis Scola who switches off at the PF AND CENTER position for us is listed at 6-9 and 245 pounds (so he's more stout than Oberto and way bigger than Thomas). Scola would have no problem getting minutes even with Duncan on the floor if he played for the Spurs.

As for the "he only had 11 points and 3 rebounds" argument......well Yao only had 12 points and 1 rebound tonight so what's the point? Houston was hitting all their shots....wasn't really alot of rebounds to be grabbed tonight.

Look at Scola's past games before tonight...he doesn't have a problem scoring and grabbing rebounds.
spurs front office thinks scola likes the ball where duncan does

you know more then them?

[Tmac&Luther]

spurs front office thinks scola likes the ball where duncan does

you know more then them?

Oh, so Oberto and Thomas are 3pt threats huh. :rolleyes

Still makes no damn sense.....Yao and Scola both do most of their work down low, still doesn't hamper them.....plus I'm sure you saw tonight that Scola does have a midrange jumper.

[ducks]

scola hated rc and pop

scola hated rc for getting on him about rebounding via email

scola is soft and the best thing spurs did was to get rid of his sorry self

[ducks]

thomas shots 16-foot jumpshots

[Indazone]

Scola is so crafty and good with his shot he could play any of three positions. On the Spurs, he could replace Oberto and your scoring output from the Center position would increase. He would also allow Pop to play a sort of twin towers type offense again too. What Oberto lacks in scoring and rebounding, Scola makes up in spades. Scola could have come in to the game to relieve Duncan too and not give up much in offensive punch or firepower. If Scola played at the 3 spot, he's got that nice midrange shot he can fire in almost at will. I have no idea why the Spurs front office thought that Scola likes the same spots as Duncan.

I also like how Scola puts his shots in, a lot of scoop shots by getting the defender to commit and then he throws a scoop shot under the defenders arms just like Kevin McHale used to do. In the process drawing a foul.

[Indazone]

scola hated rc and pop

scola hated rc for getting on him about rebounding via email

scola is soft and the best thing spurs did was to get rid of his sorry self

Yah, and Scola's 18 rebounds against the pacers shows how bad he sucks at rebounding.

[ducks]

why did he score 11 points and get three rebounds if he is kevin mchale
last time he faced spurs he had 5 rebounds

[ducks]

Yah, and Scola's 18 rebounds against the pacers shows how bad he sucks at rebounding.

name a big on the pacers

[ShoogarBear]

name a big on the pacers

Is this a trick question? :lol

[Indazone]

ducks is starting to reach Spursdynasty's legendary status.

[ElNono]

why did he score 11 points and get three rebounds if he is kevin mchale

He's not Kevin McHale, but he had 9 more points and 1 more rebound than Oberto and Thomas combined in 5 less minutes of play.
He wasn't coming to the Spurs to replace Duncan. He didn't have to anyways. But he's UNDENIABLY a lot better than Oberto or Thomas.

[Indazone]

There aren't any offensive rebounds to be had when everything the team is throwing up is going in. As far as defensive rebounds, it was Artest and Head leading the way which indicates long range shots by the Spurs with the ball bouncing back out.

[Tmac&Luther]

scola hated rc and pop

That's funny, because when he first came here he said he was kinda disapointed he wasn't going to be able to play with his friends and was excited when the Spurs drafted him.


scola hated rc for getting on him about rebounding via email

If that's really true and RC truly emailed him about his rebounding in euro play then RC is a dumbass.....sorry.


scola is soft and the best thing spurs did was to get rid of his sorry self

First of all Scola isn't soft, his defense has improved since his rookie year, but none the less....this sentence makes me LMAO......I mean it's not like Oberto strikes fear in the eyes of his opponent with his "watch out or I'll flop and fall down" defense (seriously that's all the guy does..I laugh my ass off when the refs don't call it and Yao just looks at him like a idiot then puts up a easy basket). I mean since when the hell did Oberto become Ben Wallace of 2004?

[Tmac&Luther]

why did he score 11 points and get three rebounds if he is kevin mchale
last time he faced spurs he had 5 rebounds

Again another joke response....

in a combined 39 minutes of play per game between Oberto and Thomas, they are averaging just 7 rpg...

In only 27 minutes per game (a full damn quarter less than the above two players) Scola is averaging 7.6 rpg... He's out boarding two of your main bigs in a full damn quarter less per game and you want to rag on his rebounding. :rollin

[mrspurs]

What? Nonsense. We would be comparing the two 24-7. In fact, we can compare them now. Scola > Splitter.

easily

[mrspurs]

Again another joke response....

in a combined 39 minutes of play per game between Oberto and Thomas, they are averaging just 7 rpg...

In only 27 minutes per game (a full damn quarter less than the above two players) Scola is averaging 7.6 rpg... He's out boarding two of your main bigs in a full damn quarter less per game and you want to rag on his rebounding. :rollin

And thats a fact. You can add Ime and AT from last nights game that Scolla destroyed. Thats 4 guys outplayed by Scolla in 25 mins.

[ducks]

He's not Kevin McHale, but he had 9 more points and 1 more rebound than Oberto and Thomas combined in 5 less minutes of play.
He wasn't coming to the Spurs to replace Duncan. He didn't have to anyways. But he's UNDENIABLY a lot better than Oberto or Thomas.

Indazone compared him to kevin mchale

[ElNono]

Indazone compared him to kevin mchale

Indazone was comparing Scola's scoop shots with McHale's... don't be a dummy, we can all read...

[Tully365]

Because we need one.

:lol You are cruel ShoogarBear (and funny)! This thread is the equivalent of a drunk uncle asking his teenaged neice at the thanksgiving dinner table to tell the story for the whole family about how her first love dumped her and started dating her best friend. Tell us that story again sweetie, he'd say, it's so damn entertaining!

[Sissiborgo]

Scola sucks...

[ploto]

RC burned all bridges to Scola when he lied about Scola's buyout to the local press to appease fans. As you saw, it took no time at all for the Rockets to agree to a buyout and a contract that is less than Bonner's. Kerr worked out a buy out for Goran, too, from TAU.

[The Franchise]

RC burned all bridges to Scola when he lied about Scola's buyout to the local press to appease fans. As you saw, it took no time at all for the Rockets to agree to a buyout and a contract that is less than Bonner's. Kerr worked out a buy out for Goran, too, from TAU.

Don't confuse some people with facts!!! :lol

[ducks]

RC burned all bridges to Scola when he lied about Scola's buyout to the local press to appease fans. As you saw, it took no time at all for the Rockets to agree to a buyout and a contract that is less than Bonner's. Kerr worked out a buy out for Goran, too, from TAU.

see scola never wanted to be a spur when he played in the nba

scola got his wish

[Bruno]

Great thread. :downspin:

Scola is far from being worth all the attention he gets here.

[ducks]

Great thread. :downspin:

Scola is far from being worth all the attention he gets here.

people act like he is duncan here

[galvatron3000]

he would have fit in with the Spurs easily

[sonic21]

scola is overrated,
scola= younger oberto

[ducks]

he would have fit in with the Spurs easily

not when he hates rc and pop

[galvatron3000]

not when he hates rc and pop


on the court then :rollin

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

scola is overrated,
scola= younger oberto

hahahahahahahahahahaha

Oberto played for Olympiacos before I know him well if you believe this you are biggest idiot in this board.

[ducks]

on the court then :rollin

have you seen the knicks with marbarrry

[galvatron3000]

have you seen the knicks with marbarrry


Knicks are winning, yeah I've seen them. Scola more than likely would have come around simply because Oberto and Ginobili were there and they could have resolve the issues, the Marbury thing goes deeper than what they are reporting and I personally feel it has a lot to do with the court case from a season ago.

Either way I'm just referring to him being useful to the team with what he does

[ducks]

what has houston done with him
still not get past the first round of the playoffs

[galvatron3000]

what has houston done with him
still not get past the first round of the playoffs

my point is he would be useful, I'll go further, valuable to the Spurs and they regret the move

[ducks]

no they do not

if a player do not fit they move one

they know houston still can not get past the first round with him

notice they did not trade him to the lakers,pistons, boston

[galvatron3000]

no they do not

if a player do not fit they move one

they know houston still can not get past the first round with him

notice they did not trade him to the lakers,pistons, boston


ok

[ducks]

yeah and they still have no second round appearance either

[ChumpDumper]

Scola would be fine on this team, but so what? It's done.

[galvatron3000]

Scola would be fine on this team, but so what? It's done.



AGREED.

:flag:

[ChumpDumper]

to let Scola go was just a fuck upSo what? It's done.

We already knew your point a long time ago.

[ChumpDumper]

question is:what do we do about it??You're the professor missing an S...

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not missing no S.
If it was written in English probably, but not in Spanish.
Go to the diccionary and you'll find out what I'm talking about.Nah, I'm in America.

We talk American.

[ChumpDumper]

My suggestion is we bitch about Scola some more.

[ChumpDumper]

My suggestion is we find a decent big to beat teams like the Lakers,Rockets, Pistons,Cavs. or Celtics if we wanna win another ring.
That's all.Woo-hoo!

[cherylsteele]

My suggestion is we find a decent big to beat teams like the Lakers,Rockets, Pistons,Cavs. or Celtics if we wanna win another ring.
That's all.
Okay then.....who??
How about some names that are VIABLE AND DOABLE.
The Rockets won mostly because they hit some tough shots, that didn't make as much in the past, and also becaus the the entire Spurs' roster....for the most part missed shots they usually make, including Tim. The Spurs had an off shooting night compared to what they have been doing. Some of those shots were wide open. Houston's "D" was good but not as good as the box score shows....the Spurs shot .377 from the field.

[cherylsteele]

Personally I would go after Mirko Milicic.
Who??
God can't even get names right.
It is Darko Milicic.
I don't think too much of his game either.

[phxspurfan]

I'm not missing no S.
If it was written in English probably, but not in Spanish.
Go to the diccionary and you'll find out what I'm talking about.

Yes, you're missing an s. If you were really writing that in Spanish, then try 'El Profesor.' If you were attempting English, try 'The Professor.' But don't try and criticize native people's understanding of their language when your demo of Spanglish shows you don't know the grammar.

[cherylsteele]

You are talking about just 1 game.I'm talking about getting better to beat the lakers in the WCFs and the Celtics,Cavs or Piston to win another ring.
Personally I would go after Mirko Milicic. I dont know how much his contract worths, but I'll look into it.
We defenetly have some young talent that could make Memphis better in the long run,while we can add a guy who is better tham any of our bigs bisedes Duncan.
Yes, one game, the Spurs played poorly, but they have been playing well and have shown that Scola is decent, I don't think he really would be the inside presence the Spurs need, he isn't a really good rebounder or shotblocker that they need, he only had 3 boards last night, sure he is avg 7.3 for the season, but the Spurs need more of an intimidator type next to Tim. Scola is justa glorified Oberto.

[Tmac&Luther]

Yes, one game, the Spurs played poorly, but they have been playing well and have shown that Scola is decent, I don't think he really would be the inside presence the Spurs need, he isn't a really good rebounder or shotblocker that they need, he only had 3 boards last night, sure he is avg 7.3 for the season, but the Spurs need more of an intimidator type next to Tim. Scola is justa glorified Oberto.

What a joke........when's the last time that Oberto grabbed 18 rebounds in a game?

Hell when's the last time Oberto averaged 14 & 9 in the playoffs? I understand that y'all want to move past the Scola issue, but don't do it by making shit up. Oberto is absolute garbage....Scola is one of the more talented bigs in the NBA, there's a big difference.

[ducks]

What a joke........when's the last time that Oberto grabbed 18 rebounds in a game?

Hell when's the last time Oberto averaged 14 & 9 in the playoffs? I understand that y'all want to move past the Scola issue, but don't do it by making shit up. Oberto is absolute garbage....Scola is one of the more talented bigs in the NBA, there's a big difference.

I am waiting for a big to be named on the pacers
scola has not gotten over 5 against spurs this year

against booner,oberta, and thomas
who he you think he is so much better

[Tmac&Luther]

I am waiting for a big to be named on the pacers
scola has not gotten over 5 against spurs this year

against booner,oberta, and thomas
who he you think he is so much better

and this is supposed to prove what? :lmao

That's more of just a freak stat, not the norm......how about you go pull up his rebounds against y'all last year...

He's grabbed 9 boards against KG and the Celtics, gabbed 9 boards against LA's bigs, and grabbed 10 boards against Chandler and West. :rolleyes So please spare me the B.S.

[ducks]

humm against decent bigs he can not even grab double digit rebounds and you keep bringing up that 18 rebounds

[mystargtr34]

Scola is a pretty good basketball player

[Tmac&Luther]

humm against decent bigs he can not even grab double digit rebounds and you keep bringing up that 18 rebounds

He's playing next to Yao who grabs about 10 a game and still manages to clean his fair share of the glass......you truly are a retard aren't you?

[ducks]

dude when spurs had dennis rodman they had two bigs getting over 10 rebounds a game

[Tmac&Luther]

dude when spurs had dennis rodman they had two bigs getting over 10 rebounds a game

Wow omg.......you mean pound for pound the greatest rebounder that ever lived, shocking. :lmao :rolleyes

[Capt Bringdown]

Oberto is absolute garbage...

I agree. You might get more production out of a tree stump. I hate seeing Oberto in a Spurs uniform, what a turd he is.

[galvatron3000]

You are talking about just 1 game.I'm talking about getting better to beat the lakers in the WCFs and the Celtics,Cavs or Piston to win another ring.
Personally I would go after Mirko Milicic. I dont know how much his contract worths, but I'll look into it.
We defenetly have some young talent that could make Memphis better in the long run,while we can add a guy who is better tham any of our bigs bisedes Duncan.

no, he doesn't want to do what the Spurs would ask him to do. He's complaining about it on a losing team and how he wants to be the focus of the offense so coming to San Antonio he most certainly will not be the main focus so no need in looking into signing him. Might as well look elsewhere

[whottt]

I was truly amazed at how much quicker Bonner is than Scola....and that's saying something, because Bonner is probably one of the 10 slowest players in the NBA. He looked like Tony Parker compared to Scola..

No wonder Scola doesn't get played in the fourth quarter....ever.(That, and and he chokes, but so does Bonner).

In any case...Scola had little or nothing to do with this win and Bonner outplayed him.

They are basically the same player except Bonner is more of a perimeter offensive player and Scola is more of an interior offensive player...Scola probably has a little more fire...he definitely didn't like the way Bonner took his ass to school in the first half.

They are about the same player....Scola wouldn't pull the minutes for the Spurs he pulls for the Rockets...if his speed is too much of a liability for Adelman, you can bet it would be even worse with Pop.

In conclusion...Scola was, is, and will continue to be over-rated by an astoundingly large number of clueless basketball fans....never has there been so much talk about a scrub.

[Manufan909]

I was truly amazed at how much quicker Bonner is than Scola....and that's saying something, because Bonner is probably one of the 10 slowest players in the NBA. He looked like Tony Parker compared to Scola..

No wonder Scola doesn't get played in the fourth quarter....ever.(That, and and he chokes, but so does Bonner).

In any case...Scola had little or nothing to do with this win and Bonner outplayed him.

They are basically the same player except Bonner is more of a perimeter offensive player and Scola is more of an interior offensive player...Scola probably has a little more fire...he definitely didn't like the way Bonner took his ass to school in the first half.

They are about the same player....Scola wouldn't pull the minutes for the Spurs he pulls for the Rockets...if his speed is too much of a liability for Adelman, you can bet it would be even worse with Pop.

In conclusion...Scola was, is, and will continue to be over-rated by an astoundingly large number of clueless basketball fans....never has there been so much talk about a scrub.

+1

First time I truly and completely agreed with a whott post. Usually there's alot more anger/cursing invlolved.:downspin:

[cherylsteele]

He's playing next to Yao who grabs about 10 a game and still manages to clean his fair share of the glass......you truly are a retard aren't you?
He would be playing next to TD, another big manthat surely going to HOF.

I just don't think Scola is "all that". He would be a slight upgrade over Oberto. Scola's success...if you call it that.....is mainly due to the way the Rockets play. We need an ATHLETIC big, Scola is not all that athletic, he is not a shot intimidator/blocker, which is what the Spurs really need.

[We born to be bad]

What a joke........when's the last time that Oberto grabbed 18 rebounds in a game?...

ignorant fool...oberto grabbed 17 rebounds against lakers december '07. anyway this year fab has one of the worst rebounding/minutes of his career. like thomas and bonner.

[temujin]

I join ST and all I see is Scola, Splitter and even Bourousis threads, plus the inevitable Trade Vaughn classic.

With this Whott guy in the Scola one, inevitably bashing the (not-so-poor) Argentinian.

So things have finally settled in Spursdom, the team is bound to the ennieme inevitable 56 wins season, and random words need to be thrown in, waiting for April to come.

PS. Except that Whott is actually comparing Scola to an NBA bastekball player: so things are still on the mend, perhaps.

[whottt]

PS. Except that Whott is actually comparing Scola to an NBA bastekball player: so things are still on the mend, perhaps.


I'd take Scola over Thomas, I think Thomas actually is the slowest player in the NBA...I also wouldn't have done that trade if I'd known Splitter was going to back out.

That doesn't mean Scola isn't woefully over-rated...especially by this board.

[ElNono]

I was truly amazed at how much quicker Bonner is than Scola....and that's saying something, because Bonner is probably one of the 10 slowest players in the NBA. He looked like Tony Parker compared to Scola..

No wonder Scola doesn't get played in the fourth quarter....ever.(That, and and he chokes, but so does Bonner).

In any case...Scola had little or nothing to do with this win and Bonner outplayed him.

They are basically the same player except Bonner is more of a perimeter offensive player and Scola is more of an interior offensive player...Scola probably has a little more fire...he definitely didn't like the way Bonner took his ass to school in the first half.

They are about the same player....Scola wouldn't pull the minutes for the Spurs he pulls for the Rockets...if his speed is too much of a liability for Adelman, you can bet it would be even worse with Pop.

In conclusion...Scola was, is, and will continue to be over-rated by an astoundingly large number of clueless basketball fans....never has there been so much talk about a scrub.

Scola and Bonner are nothing alike. And Thomas is probably 10x slower than Scola, and yet Pop has no problem playing him. Please keep your weak sauce arguments in the Politics forum.

[ElNono]

humm against decent bigs he can not even grab double digit rebounds and you keep bringing up that 18 rebounds

When was the last time Oberto or Thomas combined grabbed double digit rebounds against decent bigs? Not to mention, when was the last time both combined scored double digit points? I'm not even gonna go with both rebounds and points combined...
Nobody is claiming that Scola is the second coming of Hakeem... the only thing being pointed out is that the FO does makes mistakes, like trading this guy for peanuts to a division rival when our two centers pale in comparison.

[whottt]

Hey...just because the majority of Americans are completely ignorant in their voting tendencies, and thus like yourself...that doesn't mean you're rigth about anything else, and last I checked, you weren't...Mr. Team Argentina. Only an idiot would think being in touch with the large number of stupid people in America(because you yourself are stupid) means they're right abotu basketball...


You want to go suck Scola's ass just do it...but please look at the name of this forum...it's not called the Scola ass suckers forum...it's called the Spurs forum, at SpursTalk.


And just so we're clear on this...if I never read another post by you, my life will be the better for it. I have zero interest in your opinion on anything...do you ever notice I never initiate discussions with you or seek you out for debate...there is a very good reason for that...because people who don't know what a continent is are unworthy of being sought for their opinion on anything...


Die...the sooner the better.

[ElNono]

Hey...just because the majority of Americans are completely ignorant in their voting tendencies, and thus like yourself...


You suck. And what's worse, you're in denial... No, not the river. Look it up in the dictionary...


that doesn't mean you're rigth about anything else, and last I checked, you weren't...Mr. Team Argentina.


I stated my opinion, that contradicts yours. I'm still waiting for a counterpoint. I don't claim to be always right, but I do expect to be proven wrong.


Only an idiot would think being in touch with the large number of stupid people in America(because you yourself are stupid) means they're right abotu basketball...


Your insults don't bother me at all. Just shows who the stupid really is.


You want to go suck Scola's ass just do it...but please look at the name of this forum...it's not called the Scola ass suckers forum...it's called the Spurs forum, at SpursTalk.


The thread is called 'Scola thread!'. Maybe you got lost on the way to the Troll forum. I'm talking about Scola on the Scola thread. It makes sense to everybody except you. Who is the stupid again?


And just so we're clear on this...if I never read another post by you, my life will be the better for it. I have zero interest in your opinion on anything...do you ever notice I never initiate discussions with you or seek you out for debate...there is a very good reason for that...because people who don't know what a continent is are unworthy of being sought for their opinion on anything...


Well, so we're clear on this... you had me on your ignore list, and STILL went ahead, read my post and replied to it with garbage (I still don't see anything supporting how Bonner and Scola are the same type of players). Then you bitch about how you're not reading my posts anymore? Who cares what you do with your ignore list??? Who cares if your life is better from not reading my posts??? You just plain suck, and nobody cares... got that skippy?


Die...the sooner the better.

I will actually try hard not to, so I can call out the garbage you post in these forums. I mean, my sig will be a reminder of who whottt is for all newcomers: The Spurstalk clown...

[Indazone]

haha for once I did not start the Scola troll thread. Kudos to El Nono for his excellent analysis and to Whott, get a brain. You know that if the Spurs had to do it over again, they would have taken Scola in a heartbeat.

[Indazone]

oh by the way

SCOLA RULES!!!

[mystargtr34]

Scola doesnt rule.

But he is a pretty good basketball player.

[mystargtr34]

Matt Bonner - PER 18.19

Luis Scola - PER 16.16

:hat

[Biernutz]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/scola5.jpg

[ElNono]

Matt Bonner - PER 18.19

Luis Scola - PER 16.16

:hat

Kurt Thomas - PER 9.39
Fabricio Oberto - PER 5.97

:toast

[Indazone]

Hey Whottt

Tell me how my ass tastes :lol

http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/kiss-my-ass-10.jpg

[mystargtr34]

Kurt Thomas - PER 9.39
Fabricio Oberto - PER 5.97

:toast

Bonner is the guy chosen over Scola.

So far, so good :hat

[ElNono]

Bonner is the guy chosen over Scola.

So far, so good :hat

Hey, if he keeps it up, I'm not going to complain.

[Manufan909]

Kurt Thomas - PER 9.39
Fabricio Oberto - PER 5.97

:toast

We all already know they suck, we're talking about THE REDHEAD, not the Arg or former Sonic/OKC Thunder(?).

[mystargtr34]

Hey, if he keeps it up, I'm not going to complain.

Seriously though i was and still am against the trade more than nearly anyone - just giving Bonner some props he deserves.

[whottt]

haha for once I did not start the Scola troll thread. Kudos to El Nono for his excellent analysis

Excellent analysis? The man cannot understand why Pop plays Thomas...I think Thomas sucks completely, but I know why Pop plays him...and I know those reasons would not apply to Scola.

Thomas preps for his defensive assignments like a coach...Scola gives up on Matt Bonner with a clear path to the basket...

Scola would not have had any ass left if he did that playing for the Spurs.



and to Whott, get a brain. You know that if the Spurs had to do it over again, they would have taken Scola in a heartbeat.

Well yeah...seeing how Splitter fucked them...that doesn't mean Scola isn't over-rated.

Anyway...next time Kori is adding a forum I am going to lobby for a Scola deepthroaters forum...that way you scrub sucking idiots can have a place to do what you do best.

Do not think you are qualified to judge the excellentness of someones basketball take..

You and and El Nono are not shit to this forum and have contributed nothing to it becoming the place of reknown basketball insight that it is...

What you guys are is a couple of dingleberries, that have contributed nothing except lowering the forum IQ.

[whottt]

Hey Whottt

Tell me how my ass tastes :lol

http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/kiss-my-ass-10.jpg



You are RocketFan...you do not need anyone to tell you how any kind of ass tastes...you live and breathe ass daily. Ass is your entire existence...filthy, stinky CHOKING ass...

[anakha]

This thread badly needs an appearance from Scola Dynasty 21 and ArgSpursBanned.

[whottt]

People can spin it however they want....but Bonner took Scola to school in that game....and you know what? He is faster. EOA.

[ElNono]

Excellent analysis? The man cannot understand why Pop plays Thomas...I think Thomas sucks completely, but I know why Pop plays him...and I know those reasons would not apply to Scola.

Thomas preps for his defensive assignments like a coach...Scola gives up on Matt Bonner with a clear path to the basket...

Scola would not have had any ass left if he did that playing for the Spurs.


If Pop would have a guy that can put up 10 and 7 night in and night out, Thomas would not be here today. Any other questions?



Well yeah...seeing how Splitter fucked them...that doesn't mean Scola isn't over-rated.


So you agree that, in hindsight, we should have taken Scola over Bonner.
Good, we're making progress.


Anyway...next time Kori is adding a forum I am going to lobby for a Scola deepthroaters forum...that way you scrub sucking idiots can have a place to do what you do best.


We should also lobby for a psychiatric help forum... for loons like you.


Do not think you are qualified to judge the excellentness of someones basketball take..


And you are, Mr delusional? Reality is calling, and you're not answering.


You and and El Nono are not shit to this forum and have contributed nothing to it becoming the place of reknown basketball insight that it is...


I know that if I'm looking for insight, you're the last one to provide it. At any level. Now, if we're talking entertainment...


What you guys are is a couple of dingleberries, that have contributed nothing except lowering the forum IQ.

I certainly helped expose the crap you post so other posters are not fooled by your idiocy. I mean, let's be real here for a minute. You're just bitter that half the forum owns your ass. But hey, don't let facts get in your way...

[Indazone]

You are RocketFan...you do not need anyone to tell you how any kind of ass tastes...you live and breathe ass daily. Ass is your entire existence...filthy, stinky CHOKING ass...

:lmao

[mystargtr34]

He does have a point.

[underdawg]

Milsap>Scola - Spurs should have found a way to trade up in 06 to get him. We'll never be the same:depressed

[timvp]

As someone who thought the trade was horrible from day one, I have to admit it was still a damn stupid trade. That said, Bonner's play this season has taken away a lot of the sting. In a vacuum, it's obvious that Scola is better than Bonner ... but if Bonner can keep this level of play up, he won't be doing much worse than what Scola would have done.

Bonner has more range, which is important in the Spurs system. While Scola is the better individual defender, Bonner is probably the better team defender. And if Pop ever were to doghouse Scola like he's done to Bonner countless times, Scola wouldn't be able handle it as professionally as Bonner has.

Bad trade but Bonner recently has shown what RC was thinking when he made the trade. In theory, if you have an undersized power forward, the Spurs would take the one who can shoot threes and defend better in a team concept. Bonner has a long way to go to prove this wasn't a fluke stretch of games but at least the method behind the madness is glimmering here and there. Especially since Bonner is 2-for-2 in outplaying Scola this year.

[Rogue]

After that dunk: Bonner > Scola. :lol
:lmao I have to disagree with you. Scola used to be a spur but hadn't played even one minute for us. Afterwards we was traded to Houson for V-span who was bought out before long. I still think it's a big pity for us to lose him but underestimating him isn't gonna let us ignore the big pity. Scola is one of the best PFs in the western conference or even in the whole league. We have TD at starting PF but we have no other good PF to act as his backup, so TD has to play quite a long time each game. Fortuantely TD is not as frigile as Yao, but who the hell can guarantee that he won't get :sleepand injuried as he is keeping aging. TD is 32 but still playes nearly 40min per game. What if TD fell down one day? Is a squad based on Manu and Parker good enough to bring us into the playoffs? Never to mention winning another :lobt2:.

If we had Scola here, it'll never be a problem when TD gets too many fouls or plays too many minutes to keep himself aggresive enough in the 4th quarter. In addition, Scola is gonna mesh up with our chemistry easily because we have another two argentina rosters besides him, Oberto and Manu could have helped him become a effient part of our team but they don't have this chance now. Scola is the seacond best Player in Argentina, just behind Manu.:depressed It's not a steal, but a robbery that the rockets took scola from san antonio.
We intended to select Batum in this year's draft, but he was stolen before our turn, still by the hatred Houston Rockets. I just don't know why our GM has been keeping benefiting the rockets, scola and barry are both with rockets now. I mean, we should revenge ourselves a little bit againest the rockets :flag:, how about trading our GM for Morey?:hat

[Rogue]

:bang
Hey Whottt

Tell me how my ass tastes :lol

http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/kiss-my-ass-10.jpg:downspin:
Rockets fans are not welcome here :ihit
Maybe they want to have a taste of Big Show's big fist.:p:

[anakha]

:lmao I have to disagree with you. Scola used to be a spur but hadn't played even one minute for us. Afterwards we was traded to Houson for V-span who was bought out before long. I still think it's a big pity for us to lose him but underestimating him isn't gonna let us ignore the big pity. Scola is one of the best PFs in the western conference or even in the whole league. We have TD at starting PF but we have no other good PF to act as his backup, so TD has to play quite a long time each game. Fortuantely TD is not as frigile as Yao, but who the hell can guarantee that he won't get :sleepand injuried as he is keeping aging. TD is 32 but still playes nearly 40min per game. What if TD fell down one day? Is a squad based on Manu and Parker good enough to bring us into the playoffs? Never to mention winning another :lobt2:.

If we had Scola here, it'll never be a problem when TD gets too many fouls or plays too many minutes to keep himself aggresive enough in the 4th quarter. In addition, Scola is gonna mesh up with our chemistry easily because we have another two argentina rosters besides him, Oberto and Manu could have helped him become a effient part of our team but they don't have this chance now. Scola is the seacond best Player in Argentina, just behind Manu.:depressed It's not a steal, but a robbery that the rockets took scola from san antonio.
We intended to select Batum in this year's draft, but he was stolen before our turn, still by the hatred Houston Rockets. I just don't know why our GM has been keeping benefiting the rockets, scola and barry are both with rockets now. I mean, we should revenge ourselves a little bit againest the rockets :flag:, how about trading our GM for Morey?:hat

Talk about reading too much into one statement. :lmao

Too bad all of that ranting was wasted.

[Tmac&Luther]

Hey Whottt, I think it's time to admit you had no clue what you were talking about now....

Especially after Scola took Dirk to school and shut him down defensively.

[sananspursfan21]

man, spurs shoulda kept scola. what's they're obsession with foreign players? atleast they got rid of barbosa, the only reason he seemed any good was because he was with a run and gun offense, i mean, where is he now?

[sananspursfan21]

:lmao I have to disagree with you. Scola used to be a spur but hadn't played even one minute for us. Afterwards we was traded to Houson for V-span who was bought out before long. I still think it's a big pity for us to lose him but underestimating him isn't gonna let us ignore the big pity. Scola is one of the best PFs in the western conference or even in the whole league. We have TD at starting PF but we have no other good PF to act as his backup, so TD has to play quite a long time each game. Fortuantely TD is not as frigile as Yao, but who the hell can guarantee that he won't get :sleepand injuried as he is keeping aging. TD is 32 but still playes nearly 40min per game. What if TD fell down one day? Is a squad based on Manu and Parker good enough to bring us into the playoffs? Never to mention winning another :lobt2:.

If we had Scola here, it'll never be a problem when TD gets too many fouls or plays too many minutes to keep himself aggresive enough in the 4th quarter. In addition, Scola is gonna mesh up with our chemistry easily because we have another two argentina rosters besides him, Oberto and Manu could have helped him become a effient part of our team but they don't have this chance now. Scola is the seacond best Player in Argentina, just behind Manu.:depressed It's not a steal, but a robbery that the rockets took scola from san antonio.
We intended to select Batum in this year's draft, but he was stolen before our turn, still by the hatred Houston Rockets. I just don't know why our GM has been keeping benefiting the rockets, scola and barry are both with rockets now. I mean, we should revenge ourselves a little bit againest the rockets :flag:, how about trading our GM for Morey?:hat

yah! let's send manu and tony with glocks into the front office of the rockets and make them trade us yao, tmac, and luther head for a 2nd round draft pick!!! :lol

[sananspursfan21]

throw in aaron brooks too!

[LockBeard]

Hey Whottt

Tell me how my ass tastes :lol

http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/kiss-my-ass-10.jpg

:rollin

Spurs could use Scola's offense. It's as simple as that. And Scola playing off of Manu....nice one Spurs.

And PS, Splitter GFY.

[Tmac&Luther]

Hey Whottt, I think it's time to admit you had no clue what you were talking about now....

Especially after Scola took Dirk to school and shut him down defensively.

C'mon whottt.....where are you?

You've been trashing this guy for a year and a half now, time to own up to it.

[DaDakota]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06jadR4edR5Kx/610x.jpg

YOU GIVE HIM BACK !

[rayray2k8]

Who? T-Mac? :lol
The rockets are never gonna win shit with that team. :rolleyes
Keep hating, since that's all you rocket fans can do..

[wildbill2u]

The other night in a close game in the final minute Scola scored then stole the ball and scored again I think. He's playing damn good ball for Houston.

But let's move on. He's gone.

[WalterBenitez]

still crying?

[Deimosfobos]

I'll add some salt to the injury... he has been averaging a doble-doble for the past 10/15+ games... 12pts and 10 rbs today (aside 2 ast, 3 stl). And he is shooting 53% for the season.

[Tmac&Luther]

Who? T-Mac? :lol
The rockets are never gonna win shit with that team. :rolleyes
Keep hating, since that's all you rocket fans can do..

:rolleyes

Yeah, it's a good thing Tmac no longer plays for this team. Catch up pal.

P.S.

Whottt where are you???

[objective]

I'll add some salt to the injury... he has been averaging a doble-doble for the past 10/15+ games... 12pts and 10 rbs today (aside 2 ast, 3 stl). And he is shooting 53% for the season.

not including the Sunday game, in 2009 he's averaging 14 and 9 and shooting 56%.

[whottt]

Calling me out when the Rockets might not even make the playoffs?

That takes a whole lot of cluelessness.

My point is proved.


I know I know...TMac...

Well shit, if you stick me on a team with a healthy TMac and Yao...I could make the fucking playoffs.


Scola's crap who just puts up empty numbers..just like I said he would be.


I will give him credit for his rebounding though...it's like his way of saying FU to RC every single game. It's actually pretty hilarious.

But he is a non-factor when it comes to making them a better team, andf that was my major criticism of him, I never said he wouldn't put up numbers...anyone can put up numbers if they start. But they have not improved one IOTA since he joined them, and in fact they are going backwards.



Matt Bonner is shooting the same PCT BTW, and he shoots 3 as well.


So ask Bonner how his ass tastes.

[Tmac&Luther]

Calling me out when the Rockets might not even make the playoffs?

hate to break this to you, but......Houston is making the playoffs.


My point is proved.

Umm, not really. Your original point was Scola wouldn't sign over here, then changed to Scola sucked ass and couldn't cut it after he signed, then it changed to Scola is a okay player who couldn't play a lick of defense, then went to Scola is now a decent all around player.... Whatever point you originally had....it sure as hell wasn't "proved".




I know I know...TMac...

Well shit, if you stick me on a team with a healthy TMac and Yao...I could make the fucking playoffs.


Scola's crap who just puts up empty numbers..just like I said he would be.

When we make the playoffs...and we will, it will be strictly BECAUSE OF SCOLA...he's been our most consistent player, over both Yao and Tmac.



I will give him credit for his rebounding though...it's like his way of saying FU to RC every single game. It's actually pretty hilarious.

Which is funny as hell, because early on you dogged this guy out over his rebounding, just admit you were wrong and save face, because you clearly have no idea of what you're talking about.


But he is a non-factor when it comes to making them a better team, andf that was my major criticism of him,

A absolute joke.......team loses it's best player for the year, said team inserts Scola into the starting lineup, and that team goes on the NBA's second longest winning streak in the entire history of the league. Next season Team loses 2nd best player for the year and Scola keeps his team in contention. (when we make the playoffs.....and we will, Scola will be the reason, so there's nothing "empty" about those #s) The guy is a winner.




I never said he wouldn't put up numbers...anyone can put up numbers if they start.

Umm....yeah you did, at day one you were trying to call the guy a bust......stop lying, you're making a fool out of yourself.


But they have not improved one IOTA since he joined them, and in fact they are going backwards.

Hmm really, because we're a MUCH better team with Chuck Hayes starting?.....Scola has improved greatly since his rookie year, the guy developed a sick 18 foot jumper that is deadly




Matt Bonner is shooting the same PCT BTW, and he shoots 3 as well.


So ask Bonner how his ass tastes.

:rollin Really....I mean really??? You're going to throw Matt (spot up one dimensional player) Bonner into this like he's even close to the player Scola is. I mean don't get me wrong, congrats on Bonner for the career year, but give me the post player and rebounder over the no playing defense spot up shooter any day of the week. Scola>>>>>>>>>>>Bonner. :lol

[whottt]

hate to break this to you, but......Houston is making the playoffs.



Umm, not really. Your original point was Scola wouldn't sign over here, then changed to Scola sucked ass and couldn't cut it after he signed, then it changed to Scola is a okay player who couldn't play a lick of defense, then went to Scola is now a decent all around player.... Whatever point you originally had....it sure as hell wasn't "proved".

You're just stupid and weren't paying attention to my criticisms of Scola.






When we make the playoffs...and we will, it will be strictly BECAUSE OF SCOLA...he's been our most consistent player, over both Yao and Tmac.

Ok so you squeak into the playoffs and get bounced in the first round...again. BFD. You were doing that before you got Scola...you're doing it now.

The Spurs have bigger goals...it doesn't mean anything to me to be one the 8 teams in the confernce to make the playoffs...it's certainly not something I would go on another message board and talk shit about.





Which is funny as hell, because early on you dogged this guy out over his rebounding, just admit you were wrong and save face, because you clearly have no idea of what you're talking about.

I never really dogged him that much on his rebounding...but he's a better rebounder than I thought he'd be, but I already admitted that last year.




A absolute joke.......team loses it's best player for the year, said team inserts Scola into the starting lineup, and that team goes on the NBA's second longest winning streak in the entire history of the league. Next season Team loses 2nd best player for the year and Scola keeps his team in contention. (when we make the playoffs.....and we will, Scola will be the reason, so there's nothing "empty" about those #s) The guy is a winner.

Yeah he's winner who never wins anything...

Amazingly...I knew the Rockets wouldn't get out of the first round.






Umm....yeah you did, at day one you were trying to call the guy a bust......stop lying, you're making a fool out of yourself.

Then link it bitch...









:rollin Really....I mean really??? You're going to throw Matt (spot up one dimensional player) Bonner into this like he's even close to the player Scola is. I mean don't get me wrong, congrats on Bonner for the career year, but give me the post player and rebounder over the no playing defense spot up shooter any day of the week. Scola>>>>>>>>>>>Bonner. :lol

We just have different perspective...for instance if I had to root for TMac? I'd just fucking stop following the team until he was gone.

You otoh, like as dung beatle likes shit...live, breathe, the absolute and all pervasive grungy tedious suck that is this team, every single day.

You're pathetic and I could not live the bottom feeding NBA existence you do...luckily you are terminally stupid and therefore ignorant of the fact that you are a bottom feeder and who roots for a lackluster team and organization...that is back on it's way down, without ever getting up.



In short...

TMac sucks.
Yao sucks.
Scola sucks.
The Rockets suck.
You suck.


Now run along and get back to your world of suck and you know...start sucking.

Sucker.

[whottt]

BTW, TMac and Luther...

Observing and discussing the Rockets is to me like looking in the toilet and analyzing the turd you just laid in it...I've got about that much enthusiasm over doing it.

Don't take it as a compliment or as any sort of indicator that you have won some sort of battle over my lack of enthusiasm for anthing Rockets...


I'll say the same things I said about Scola on the we traded him plus a couple of Bonner comments:


#1. He's an asshole who deserves his fate in Houston. Karma is a bitch.
#2. He's a choker.
#3. He's not as good of a defender as Bonner is...and you are stupid if you think he is.
#4. He's also slower.
#5. Bonner has raped him in their matchups.
#6. About the only thing Bonner isn't doing better than Scola is rebounding...and Scola wouldn't rebound like that on the Spurs. He also wouldn't get the same minutes on the Spurs.
#7. Both are chokers but at least Bonner has the Celts number...wheras Scola has no ones.

I like Bonner better.


I know how anxiously you are looking forward to getting bounced in the first round so good luck with that.

[MmP]

It's just funny as hell watching a guy bashing Scola for no reason at all, even when he's been playing amazingly well.

Whott you say it's easy to score if you're starting?...
..WTF!!
where did you get that from? There are nor plety of guys out there that can put up 13/14 ppg. Especially in a team like Houston where Scola doesnt get a any play called for him, not even one. So basically he gets his numbers from hustle rebounds or kick outs from the guards (who rarely do)..
I mean,,,come one man. Watch Scola carefully and get the unreasonable hate out of your head and tell me if he's not a heck of a player. Smart, unselfish, athletic for his height, a guy who tries to win letting his ego out of team, humble..

What's your problem with him?

[Allanon]

I truly believe IF the Spurs don't win a championship again, the whole Scola/Splitter thing is to blame. Spurs with Splitter or Scola wouldn't have been looking at $8 million, 35 year-old Marcus Camby to replace Scola/Splitter.

If the Spurs do win another ring, forget what I said :lol

[Rogue]

TMac sucks.
Yao sucks.
Scola sucks.
The Rockets suck.
You suck.
clutch also sucks.

[urunobili]

I think whottt still needs to take back his comments that he isn't an above average rebounder... that has been his most used attack on Scola's skillset since he joined the NBA...

So Bonner is Faster...
Bonner has a longer range...

BUT

Scola defends better
Scola gets more rebounds
Scola is WAY tougher than Bonner

I'll give the nod to Bonner in clutchness depending on his performance in the playoffs... till then... you have nothing to put him over the top...

[djohn2oo8]

Calling me out when the Rockets might not even make the playoffs?

That takes a whole lot of cluelessness.

My point is proved.


I know I know...TMac...

Well shit, if you stick me on a team with a healthy TMac and Yao...I could make the fucking playoffs.


Scola's crap who just puts up empty numbers..just like I said he would be.


I will give him credit for his rebounding though...it's like his way of saying FU to RC every single game. It's actually pretty hilarious.

But he is a non-factor when it comes to making them a better team, andf that was my major criticism of him, I never said he wouldn't put up numbers...anyone can put up numbers if they start. But they have not improved one IOTA since he joined them, and in fact they are going backwards.



Matt Bonner is shooting the same PCT BTW, and he shoots 3 as well.


So ask Bonner how his ass tastes.


26,000 posts??? WTF??? I bet you are 40 yrs old living at home with mommy right??? Because you are the biggest pussy on this board....
Now, I am a rockets fan, and I'll root for the spurs before I'll ever root for the Mavs, but you have the intelligence of a Dick Cheney. Why hasn't this douche been banned yet?

[Rogue]

I think the rockets are likely to make their debut in the second round this season for the first time in this decade, a second round show is really the biggest desire to those rockets fans who live in houston which is the 4th largest city in US.

I think Stern also knows that Houston is a big market, it may make those houston bball fans switch to Texans football if the rockets lose again this season. Stern always is able to help the team win which he wants to win, just like what he did for Miami Cheat in 06's finals.

The there's still a problem for the rockets fans to solve: stern cannot demand the refs help the rockets, he can just ignore some Cheat at most. Is it ethics that keeps the rockets managers from bribing the refs? no. it's the money, rockets' cheap-ass owner will never pay even one more extra penny than what he has to pay.

[MmP]

Scola defends better
Scola gets more rebounds
Scola is WAY tougher than Bonner

I'll give the nod to Bonner in clutchness depending on his performance in the playoffs... till then... you have nothing to put him over the top...
Scola is tougher down the strech. Luis has had tons of close games in his resume (Eurolegue World Championship Gold Medal game). So I wouldn't say he is clutcher but he has more experience and probably handles better the pressure than Matt.

I keep reading and I don't understand Whott hate towards Luis. There's no reason at all. He's just mad cause Spurs couldn't get'im, which is not Luis' fault at all. Spurs just coulnd't afford Tau's buyout.

[Indazone]

With Splitter going down with a hamstring injury, this is the perfect time for another Scola thread. :toast

[The Franchise]

Scola is tougher down the strech. Luis has had tons of close games in his resume (Eurolegue World Championship Gold Medal game). So I wouldn't say he is clutcher but he has more experience and probably handles better the pressure than Matt.

I keep reading and I don't understand Whott hate towards Luis. There's no reason at all. He's just mad cause Spurs couldn't get'im, which is not Luis' fault at all. Spurs just coulnd't afford Tau's buyout.

That's not true the Spurs could afford it, but the front office was cheap and decided not to. That plan backfired and now it bites at some Spurs fans everytime they are reminded about Scolas' success. The Spurs are my second favorite team but it feels so good to know the Rockets are much better for taking Scola from them. Thanks guys!!!:toast

[urunobili]

I keep reading and I don't understand Whott hate towards Luis. There's no reason at all. He's just mad cause Spurs couldn't get'im, which is not Luis' fault at all. Spurs just coulnd't afford Tau's buyout.

The situation is that Scola had a clause that if he was chosen in the first round of the draft he could have gotten out of his contract without buyout and the SPurs actually promised him they'd do that. instead he was chosen int he second one and Scola shortly declared that he wished he wouldn;t have been chosen and that the Spurs ruined his chances of ever making it to the NBA because of that.

Then both parties got kind of chippy when RC started to send emails to Luis about improving his rebounding etc when he knew he never would have a chance of playing for the Spurs etc.

whottt mostly hates him because of all what Luis said of the Spurs after drafting him.

If they Spurs would have chosen him in the first round as they promised him, Luis would have had his career in San Antonio and at least 2 rings and who knows even more...

after all that... he really was a threat to the team's chemistry if coming over... therefore... the spurs chose Bonner ahead of him and years before Oberto...

[Hemotivo]

after all that... he really was a threat to the team's chemistry if coming over... therefore... the spurs chose Bonner ahead of him and years before Oberto...

:blah

[The Franchise]

The situation is that Scola had a clause that if he was chosen in the first round of the draft he could have gotten out of his contract without buyout and the SPurs actually promised him they'd do that. instead he was chosen int he second one and Scola shortly declared that he wished he wouldn;t have been chosen and that the Spurs ruined his chances of ever making it to the NBA because of that.

Then both parties got kind of chippy when RC started to send emails to Luis about improving his rebounding etc when he knew he never would have a chance of playing for the Spurs etc.

whottt mostly hates him because of all what Luis said of the Spurs after drafting him.

If they Spurs would have chosen him in the first round as they promised him, Luis would have had his career in San Antonio and at least 2 rings and who knows even more...

after all that... he really was a threat to the team's chemistry if coming over... therefore... the spurs chose Bonner ahead of him and years before Oberto...

I strongly doubt Scola would have been a threat to the teams chemistry. He does not have that kind of personality. This man is the epitome of professionalism and consistency. The only jersey I own is a Scola jersey, not only because he is a good player, but he seems to be a great person as well. I wish all players could be as humble, hard working, and team oriented as he is.

[Hemotivo]

exactly

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

The situation is that Scola had a clause that if he was chosen in the first round of the draft he could have gotten out of his contract without buyout and the SPurs actually promised him they'd do that. instead he was chosen int he second one and Scola shortly declared that he wished he wouldn;t have been chosen and that the Spurs ruined his chances of ever making it to the NBA because of that.

Then both parties got kind of chippy when RC started to send emails to Luis about improving his rebounding etc when he knew he never would have a chance of playing for the Spurs etc.

whottt mostly hates him because of all what Luis said of the Spurs after drafting him.

If they Spurs would have chosen him in the first round as they promised him, Luis would have had his career in San Antonio and at least 2 rings and who knows even more...

after all that... he really was a threat to the team's chemistry if coming over... therefore... the spurs chose Bonner ahead of him and years before Oberto...

Pretty much spot on, but wasn't it during the summer in which Pop had a long vacation and wasn't too bothered with personnel decesions so the trade was a 100% RC decision, which Pop eventually hated.

Basically the Spurs wanted to get rid of J Butler too much, decided that Bonner's skillset was the better fit and maybe underestimated Scola's transition to the NBA game a bit.

Also, at the time we had just drafted Splitter and he was pretty much a certain to come to the team the following summer, nobody could have predicted the $ would drop or that TAU would have offered him such a lucrative contract. We also know his sister's health was an issue for him too.

All in all, I think it wasn't such a bad move at the time, we had tried to trade him during the draft but nodoby offered anything good because his trade value was at it's minimum, so using his rights to get rid of the lazy ass Butler was an OK move. With hindsight it's much easier to blame the Spurs FO for it, but at the time it wasn't such a bad decision as some are making it.

[Indazone]

Then both parties got kind of chippy when RC started to send emails to Luis about improving his rebounding etc when he knew he never would have a chance of playing for the Spurs etc.

whottt mostly hates him because of all what Luis said of the Spurs after drafting him.




Hey Whott, now tell me how my @$$ Tastes :lol

[whottt]

I think whottt still needs to take back his comments that he isn't an above average rebounder... that has been his most used attack on Scola's skillset since he joined the NBA...

No it isn't...my most used attack on him is that he is a choker.
My second most used attack on him is that he's over-rated by his suckers.
And he is.



So Bonner is Faster...
Bonner has a longer range...

True...




BUT

Scola defends better

No he doesn't.



Scola gets more rebounds

He wouldn't on the Spurs.




Scola is WAY tougher than Bonner

No he's not...this is all just speculative crap and you are jocking your South American hero.

Prove this...




I'll give the nod to Bonner in clutchness depending on his performance in the playoffs... till then... you have nothing to put him over the top...


Scola's crap...he's just a typical player and the Rockets are not a better team since trading for him...which means all that bitching that you guys have done about trading him...was not needed, unless your fucking homer that confused a team sport with National or Regional rooting interests.


Fuck Scola, and fuck every last one of his fans...to death. I wouldn't hate them near as much if they had the guts to follow his worthless fucking ass to the Rockets...so then they'd really have something to bitch about.

I challenge everyohne of you Scola fans that has bitched about this trade to swear off your Spurs fandomn out of allegiance to this piece of shit, and go root for the Rockets. Full time.

Do it...at least then you won't sound like idiots for whining and bitching.

[Indazone]

No it isn't...my most used attack on him is that he is a choker.
My second most used attack on him is that he's over-rated by his suckers.
And he is.



True...




No he doesn't.



He wouldn't on the Spurs.




No he's not...this is all just speculative crap and you are jocking your South American hero.

Prove this...





Scola's crap...he's just a typical player and the Rockets are not a better team since trading for him...which means all that bitching that you guys have done about trading him...was not needed, unless your fucking homer that confused a team sport with National or Regional rooting interests.


Fuck Scola, and fuck every last one of his fans...to death. I wouldn't hate them near as much if they had the guts to follow his worthless fucking ass to the Rockets...so then they'd really have something to bitch about.

I challenge everyohne of you Scola fans that has bitched about this trade to swear off your Spurs fandomn out of allegiance to this piece of shit, and go root for the Rockets. Full time.

Do it...at least then you won't sound like idiots for whining and bitching.

:clap :lmao

[whottt]

26,000 posts??? WTF??? I bet you are 40 yrs old living at home with mommy right??? Because you are the biggest pussy on this board....
Now, I am a rockets fan, and I'll root for the spurs before I'll ever root for the Mavs, but you have the intelligence of a Dick Cheney. Why hasn't this douche been banned yet?



Like I was saying...dicussing the Rockets is like looking at a turd you just shit in the toilet...discussing the Rockets with Rockets fans is getting the stench that usually accompanies a turd along with it.


Secondly...Do you see anyone one this thread asking your rooting hierarchy? No you do not...that's because no one gives a fuck. About you, about your rooting hierarchy...about anything you have to say. The next time you think anyone is interested in anything you have to say...you're wrong. Because no one is...first and foremost, me.

Remember this before you open your mouth, and then don't. Stupid ass homer Rocketfans that don't understand just how badly they truly suck are not scarce on this board.

No one...I mean literally no one, gives fuck what you have to say. Learn it. Know it. Live it.

[Indazone]

Like I was saying...dicussing the Rockets is like looking at a turd you just shit in the toilet...discussing the Rockets with Rockets fans is getting the stench that usually accompanies a turd along with it.


Secondly...Do you see anyone one this thread asking your rooting hierarchy? No you do not...that's because no one gives a fuck. About you, about your rooting hierarchy...about anything you have to say. The next time you think anyone is interested in anything you have to say...you're wrong. Because no one is...first and foremost, me.

Remember this before you open your mouth, and then don't. Stupid ass homer Rocketfans that don't understand just badly they truly suck are not scarce on this board.

No one...I mean literally no one, gives fuck what you have to say. Learn it. Know it. Live it.


hehehe, gotta hand it to Whott, he even out trolls the trolls.

[urunobili]

Scola's crap...he's just a typical player and the Rockets are not a better team since trading for him...which means all that bitching that you guys have done about trading him...was not needed, unless your fucking homer that confused a team sport with National or Regional rooting interests.

IMO without my homer glasses... he is an above average NBA player...


I challenge everyohne of you Scola fans that has bitched about this trade to swear off your Spurs fandomn out of allegiance to this piece of shit, and go root for the Rockets. Full time.

Do it...at least then you won't sound like idiots for whining and bitching.

First and foremost.. I'm a Spurs fan... then a Ginobili Fan... after that... the whole Argentine NBA players wherever they are get my support... i don;t need you to tell me who to root and why... the Rockets... couldn't care less about them dude...

[WalterBenitez]

I'll add some salt to the injury... he has been averaging a doble-doble for the past 10/15+ games... 12pts and 10 rbs today (aside 2 ast, 3 stl). And he is shooting 53% for the season.

That is more than salt, it is pepper :p:

[MmP]

Really bonehead position whottt, really.
I can't understand how come you don't realize the stupid position you're in.
Try to grow up man. It's just laughable all the things you post.
Nobody should take your post seriously after what you say.

[whottt]

That is more than salt, it is pepper :p:

Seriously...you actually think we're supposed to be envious of Scola and the Rockets are something...

That's like being envious of a turd in a toilet bowl.

Scola regrets being a Rocket much more than the Spurs do trading him.

[whottt]

Really bonehead position whottt, really.
I can't understand how come you don't realize the stupid position you're in.
Try to grow up man. It's just laughable all the things you post.
Nobody should take your post seriously after what you say.

Aww is the Scola sucker upset? It's ok....you can still suck Scola. Go jack off to his boxscore for all I care stupid fuck. Go on...Scola's the shit. Go be a RocketFan pussy...you can't have it both ways.

Go on...go with Scola. Go pour salt in our wounds with the Rockets. Go be a Rocket and look down on the poor stupid Spurs. Go to him...maybe he'll give you a facial.

And when he's done with you...maybe Shareef Abdur Rahim will give you a turn.

[whottt]

Just the fact that even you guys think it's some kind of triumph that you can mount some sort of argument over him being better than guys like Bonner or Kurt Thomas proves what unmitigated stupid fucking assholes you were for all your whining and bitching.

[DAF86]

whott my father always told me: "Son, when you're wrong admit it, it would get you out of lots of pointless discussions and you'll earn the respect of others" That's my advice to you.

I accept this topic can get tiresome, but what you have to do then is: don't answer. But if you do you should just say: "yep I accept I was wrong, Scola is better than I thought" and nobody else would give a shit about this thread. But if you insit in lying then you can't get angry at all the people trying to refute your bullshit.

And talking about that: Bonner is only better than Scola at shooting 3s and beign red-haired. Scola is better at offense, defense, rebounding, athletism and 'till now clutchness too. This talk about Scola beign a choker is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in this forum. He was the scoring leader for Team Argentina the year they won the gold. And almost every time he plays great in playoffs kind of games. Just ask Rockets fans how he played last year in his only NBA playoffs 'till now.

[whottt]

whott my father always told me: "Son, when you're wrong admit it, it would get you out of lots of pointless discussions and you'll earn the respect of others" That's my advice to you.

I accept this topic can get tiresome, but what you have to do then is: don't answer. But if you do you should just say: "yep I accept I was wrong, Scola is better than I thought" and nobody else would give a shit about this thread. But if you insit in lying then you can get angry at all the people trying to refute your bullshit.

And talking about that: Bonner is only better than Scola at shooting 3s and beign red-haired. Scola is better at offense, defense, rebounding, athletism and 'till now clutchness too. This talk about Scola beign a choker is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in this forum. He was the scoring leader for Team Argentina the year they won the gold. And almost every time he plays great in playoffs kind of games. Just ask Rockets fans how he played last year in his only NBA playoffs 'till now.



But I wasn't wrong about Scola you stupid fuck. IF you wren't so fucking stupid and understood more about basketball than a boxscore...you'd understand that.


You guys are the ones that need to admit your were wrong...and not only you refuse to do it...you pussies still have the audacity to call yourself Spurs fans.

How fucking weak can you get.

I know I know...you were always a Spurs fan...

Liars.

[whottt]

I just can't believe all you Argies would rather have Shareef Abdur Rahim than Manu Ginobili...

You guys are incredibly fucking stupid.

[picnroll]

whottt which Spur's bigman, other than Duncan, do you think would have had more positive trade value than Scola pre-trade deadline this year? In fact would any Spur's big man, other than Duncan, have had positive trade value, unlike Scola?

[DAF86]

But I wasn't wrong about Scola you stupid fuck. IF you wren't so fucking stupid and understood more about basketball than a boxscore...you'd understand that.

Eh??? ... Everybody that looks at games instead of boxscores know that Scola is even better than what his numbers show. So I suggest to you to don't pull that card.



You guys are the ones that need to admit your were wrong...and not only you refuse to do it...you pussies still have the audacity to call yourself Spurs fans.

How fucking weak can you get.

I know I know...you were always a Spurs fan...

Liars.

Wrong about what? We weren't the ones saying that Scola sucks.

And I can't talk for others but I trully was a Spurs fan before Manu got here. I've been one ever since MJ played his last game as a Bull.

P.S: Just to let you know, I was one of the guys that was in favour of trading Manu if he was out for the season.

[DAF86]

I just can't believe all you Argies would rather have Shareef Abdur Rahim than Manu Ginobili...

You guys are incredibly fucking stupid.

We could have both.

[whottt]

Suck on this Scola Fans...

Scola is the only current starter on the Rockets team with a negative Roland rating.

That means they've been better with him off the court than they have with him on it.

Like I said...overrated piece of shit.

http://www.82games.com/0809/0809HOU.HTM



Suck on this while you're at it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/stats?team=hou


That huge rebounding advantage? Comes out to 3.1 more than Bonner per 48...and in case you guys haven't noticed, Bonner spends a lot more time out of the paint than Scola...he also plays a with a rebound vacum named Duncan and for a coach who discourages crashing the offensive glass.

That's the one thing Scola does better than Bonner does...and it's a miminal difference when projected to 48 minutes,.


And it's a fucking joke that his shooting PCT is brought up against Bonner...


Scola is shooting 526% on the season...a fairly impressive total, until you watch how many of those are garbage points he gets.


Matt Bonner is shooting 522% on the season...and he has taken nearly 200 3 point attempts, he is nearly shooting 500% from 3...

That's not just good for a PF...that's damn close to an NBA record for a PF. In fact I think it is...I could be wrong, but if I am none of you assholes know enough about the game to prove me wrong. Do you?


Suck on that...and then take your stupid fucking asses to Houston to get bounced in the first round...along with Luis ASSHOLE Scola.

And stick those stats up your fucking ass...

And consider yourself lucky I was civil enough to post those stats...because frankly you guys are too fucking stupid to deserve the effort.


Ya'll didn't know what basketball was before Manu Ginobili played in the NBA...and it shows.

[Indazone]

Hey Whottt

Tell me how my ass tastes :lol

http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/kiss-my-ass-10.jpg


mmmm tasty eh Whott? There's more where that came from. If the Rockets ran the offense through Scola he'd put up All-Star numbers but they don't so Scola gets his points and rebounds any way he can. He doesn't complain and he thinks team first.

[whottt]

We could have both.


We didn't need both...

We won a title the year before Scola got here. We won one with Oberto.
We won one with Nazr Mohamme and Rasho Nesterovic before then...

That is where Scola belongs...on the tier with those guys..the replacable parts. That don't truly mean shit. He is not worth this big of deal...

Do you understand this?



When we failed to win one last year...it was not becuase of our PF situation. It was because of our shooting guard situation.

Scola would not have helped that one bit...and of the two, Bonner will more than Scola...because he can shoot threes, and shoot them well.

So you see...

It's a simple matter of...we didn't fucking need Luis Scola.


He needed us.


Had he not been an asshole he would have been here.




The only purpose Scola would have served on this team is to fufull some Argie National wet dream..

How dare you put my team below your National Wet Dream...isn't that what your National Team is for?


Go suck a cock. A blue and white one.

And then...

Houston needs fans...go there, pour salt in our wounds from Houston.

You..and Ron "Genius" Artest....


Winners. Just like Scola.

[whottt]

mmmm tasty eh Whott? There's more where that came from. If the Rockets ran the offense through Scola he'd put up All-Star numbers but they don't so Scola gets his points and rebounds any way he can. He doesn't complain and he thinks team first.

So Scola's idea of Team First is sucking and fighting to make the playoffs because of stupidity(according to your evaluation of Scola's talents I mean)?

Thank god the Spurs don't have those sorts of team players.

Thank God they send them to Houston.


BTW, a great many players in the league could put up "All Star" numbers if they had offenses running through them...that doesn't mean their team would be worth a shit.


This may come as a surprise to you, but the All Star Game doesn't mean shit...especially now, and especially because of you Rockets Fans. Ya'll turned it into a joke.

[djohn2oo8]

So Scola's idea of Team First is sucking and fighting to make the playoffs because of stupidity(according to your evaluation of Scola's talents I mean)?

Thank god the Spurs don't have those sorts of team players.

Thank God they send them to Houston.


BTW, a great many players in the league could put up "All Star" numbers if they had offenses running through them...that doesn't mean their team would be worth a shit.


This may come as a surprise to you, but the All Star Game doesn't mean shit...especially now, and especially because of you Rockets Fans. Ya'll turned it into a joke.

Well, if it isn't the mistake by the lake, everyone please welcome "WHOTT"

http://www.lolpats.com/images/epic_fail.jpg

[PDXSpursFan]

Let's face it:

Scola >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bonner. PERIOD.

[WalterBenitez]

Seriously...you actually think we're supposed to be envious of Scola and the Rockets are something...

That's like being envious of a turd in a toilet bowl.

Scola regrets being a Rocket much more than the Spurs do trading him.

It is what it is... period.
I don't care what Scola think, I think it was a mistake ... period.
It is about opinions, not to be right or wrong :rolleyes

[mystargtr34]

mmmm tasty eh Whott? There's more where that came from. If the Rockets ran the offense through Scola he'd put up All-Star numbers but they don't so Scola gets his points and rebounds any way he can. He doesn't complain and he thinks team first.

Lmao.

[mystargtr34]

Suck on this Scola Fans...

Scola is the only current starter on the Rockets team with a negative Roland rating.

That means they've been better with him off the court than they have with him on it.

Like I said...overrated piece of shit.

http://www.82games.com/0809/0809HOU.HTM



Suck on this while you're at it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/stats?team=hou


That huge rebounding advantage? Comes out to 3.1 more than Bonner per 48...and in case you guys haven't noticed, Bonner spends a lot more time out of the paint than Scola...he also plays a with a rebound vacum named Duncan and for a coach who discourages crashing the offensive glass.

That's the one thing Scola does better than Bonner does...and it's a miminal difference when projected to 48 minutes,.


And it's a fucking joke that his shooting PCT is brought up against Bonner...


Scola is shooting 526% on the season...a fairly impressive total, until you watch how many of those are garbage points he gets.


Matt Bonner is shooting 522% on the season...and he has taken nearly 200 3 point attempts, he is nearly shooting 500% from 3...

That's not just good for a PF...that's damn close to an NBA record for a PF. In fact I think it is...I could be wrong, but if I am none of you assholes know enough about the game to prove me wrong. Do you?


Suck on that...and then take your stupid fucking asses to Houston to get bounced in the first round...along with Luis ASSHOLE Scola.

And stick those stats up your fucking ass...

And consider yourself lucky I was civil enough to post those stats...because frankly you guys are too fucking stupid to deserve the effort.


Ya'll didn't know what basketball was before Manu Ginobili played in the NBA...and it shows.


While i disagree on some of your bashing of Scola. Most of your points about Bonner are pretty damn good. Out of players that average over 6 PPG. Matt Bonner has the 2nd highest TS% (True Shooting Percentage) in the entire League, behind only Nene, who shoots a ridiculous 60+% from the Field. That is ridiculously efficient, i only just realised he was that high.

Bonner > Scola :hat

TS% adjusts for 3 PT FG and Free Throws. For example if a guy is 3-5 from the field all on 2 PT FG, he has 6 points on 5 shots, so his % is .600.

If a guy is 2-5 all from 3 PT FG, he also has 6 points on 5 shots, so his True FG % is also .600.

Just for you newbies.

[DAF86]

While i disagree on some of your bashing of Scola. Most of your points about Bonner are pretty damn good. Out of players that average over 6 PPG. Matt Bonner has the 2nd highest TS% (True Shooting Percentage) in the entire League, behind only Nene, who shoots a ridiculous 60+% from the Field. That is ridiculously efficient, i only just realised he was that high.

Bonner > Scola :hat

TS% adjusts for 3 PT FG and Free Throws. For example if a guy is 3-5 from the field all on 2 PT FG, he has 6 points on 5 shots, so his % is .600.

If a guy is 2-5 all from 3 PT FG, he also has 6 points on 5 shots, so his True FG % is also .600.

Just for you newbies.

Yes but that doesn't take into consideration that that extra miss allows the other team to get easy points in a fast break. And many other intangibles.

P.S: I've seen a lot of both players and I can clearly say: Scola > Bonner

[whottt]

Las ScolaFans es las mujeres gritadoras que lamen los escrotos infestados pulga de perros muertos. Son estúpidos y gimoteo y grito por ninguna razón y saben tanto sobre baloncesto como una muchacha del americano de dos años. Lamen el ano. Ano de Scola. Y tienen gusto de él mucho.

[DAF86]

Las ScolaFans es las mujeres gritadoras que lamen los escrotos infestados pulga de perros muertos. Son estúpidos y gimoteo y grito por ninguna razón y saben tanto sobre baloncesto como una muchacha del americano de dos años. Lamen el ano. Ano de Scola. Y tienen gusto de él mucho.

If you can't speak spanish don't do it.

[whottt]

I can't think of a better way to learn...pendeja.

[whottt]

And I could say the same thing about posting about basketball.

[DAF86]

I can't think of a better way to learn...pendeja.

Try with a teacher.

[DAF86]

And I could say the same thing about posting about basketball.

Yes, me too.

[whottt]

Try with a teacher.

What was wrong with what I said? When I insult you in your mother tongue, I want to make sure you understand me.

[DAF86]

What was wrong with what I said?

It makes no sense at all

[whottt]

I'll be back to see what I said wrong in a bit. Right now I want to erase La Hemotivo's high score in Resident Evil.

[whottt]

It makes no sense at all

So you don't understand what I was saying? Bull shit.

[whottt]

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Something tells me this thread is about to get grand estupido.

[underdawg]

If you can't speak spanish don't do it.

shouldn't you help him with his Spanish as some help other posters with their English? Look at it as a good deed.

[whottt]

shouldn't you help him with his Spanish as some help other posters with their English? Look at it as a good deed.

Igualmente. :tu

You never hear us telling the Argies to not speak in English when they do it badly.

Futher proof Los Americanos del Norte >>>> Las Argentinas

[DAF86]

Las ScolaFans es las mujeres gritadoras que lamen los escrotos infestados pulga de perros muertos. Son estúpidos y gimoteo y grito por ninguna razón y saben tanto sobre baloncesto como una muchacha del americano de dos años. Lamen el ano. Ano de Scola. Y tienen gusto de él mucho.

The Scolafans is the women screamers that lick infested scrottoms dead dogs flees. They are stupid and to whine and to scream for no reason and know about basketball as a girl of the american of two years. they lick the anous. Anous of Scola. And have the taste of him a lot.

That's what you said.

[Indazone]

The Scolafans is the women screamers that lick infested scrottoms dead dogs flees. They are stupid and to whine and to scream for no reason and know about basketball as a girl of the american of two years. they lick the anous. Anous of Scola. And have the taste of him a lot.

That's what you said.

:lmao

lick any anus lately Whott? Maybe Scrotums of dead dog fleas?

[ChumpDumper]

The Scolafans is the women screamers that lick infested scrottoms dead dogs flees. They are stupid and to whine and to scream for no reason and know about basketball as a girl of the american of two years. they lick the anous. Anous of Scola. And have the taste of him a lot.

That's what you said.Seems his opinion is fairly clear.

[DAF86]

shouldn't you help him with his Spanish as some help other posters with their English? Look at it as a good deed.

If the phrase makes sense but you have some little mistakes here and there it's cool but if you use google translation it is probably going to suck and isn't going to be understood.

[whottt]

My bad...here is what I mean to say.

Las Scolafans are crying women that lick the flea infested scrotums of dead dogs. They are stupid and whine and cry for no reason and know as much about basketball as a 2 year old American girl. They lick ass. Scola's ass. And they like it a lot.

Please correct. Y muchos gracias.

[DAF86]

Seems his opinion is fairly clear.

Bealive me, in english makes a lot more sense than in spanish.

[whottt]

If the phrase makes sense but you have some little mistakes here and there it's cool but if you use google translation it is probably going to suck and isn't going to be understood.

I didn't use google translation except for a couple of parts. And I am taking Spanish right now.

[whottt]

And bullshit...gusto means like so I know you saw me saying that you like it(licking Scola's anus) a lot.

[Indazone]

dime cómo sabe mi culo

[whottt]

:lmao

lick any anus lately Whott? Maybe Scrotums of dead dog fleas?

Silencio Perro!

[DAF86]

I didn't use google translation except for a couple of parts. And I am taking Spanish right now.

It's cool. Spanish is the hardest language to learn

[whottt]

I used it to learn the vocabulary I don't know yet like scrotum and anus plus the verbs lick, cry and whine. I was hoping I would use the verbs correctly.

[DAF86]

And bullshit...gusto means like so I know you saw me saying that you like it(licking Scola's anus) a lot.

Gusto is also taste. To say "like" in that sentence you should have said:

a ellos les gusta lamer el ano de Scola.

[whottt]

Gusto is also taste. To say "like" in that sentence you should have said:

a ellos les gusta lamer el ano de Scola.

ellas :smokin. Gracias much para la corrección amigo :tu

[whottt]

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Uh oh. La culo (a)? grande es agui :depressed

[mystargtr34]

Yes but that doesn't take into consideration that that extra miss allows the other team to get easy points in a fast break. And many other intangibles.

P.S: I've seen a lot of both players and I can clearly say: Scola > Bonner

Or a chance for a longer offensive rebound. What other intangibles is there? Matt Bonner has the 2nd Highest TS% in the league. Thats a fact. They have similar FG%, but Bonner takes more 3 PT FG's, which are a lesser % shot, and more reward. Hes a better offensive player than Scola.

Hes negated alot of the Scola loss. Last season i was strongly against the trade, and i still am - but this season Matt Bonner has helped me sleep alot easier, so im giving him props for that :toast.

[DAF86]

I used it to learn the vocabulary I don't know yet like scrotum and anus plus the verbs lick, cry and whine. I was hoping I would use the verbs correctly.

That's the hardest thing about learning spanish: verb conjunction.

In english you say:In spanish you need to add a word and change the verb

I like A mi me gusta

you like A vos te gusta

he a el le gusta
she likes a ella le gusta
it "It" doesn't exist

we a nostotros nos gusta
you like a ustedes les gusta
they a ellos les gusta

[DAF86]

Or a chance for a longer offensive rebound. What other intangibles is there? Matt Bonner has the 2nd Highest TS% in the league. Thats a fact. They have similar FG%, but Bonner takes more 3 PT FG's, which are a lesser % shot, and more reward. Hes a better offensive player than Scola.

Hes negated alot of the Scola loss. Last season i was strongly against the trade, and i still am - but this season Matt Bonner has helped me sleep alot easier, so im giving him props for that :toast.

Bealive me if somebody tells me that Bonner would become the next finals MVP if I give my left nut, I would do it. But I don't see him now as a better player than Scola. And I don't think he's a better offensive player than Scola either. He can shoot the three but he doesn't have the post up game that Luis has nor the drible and I don't know if Bonner is a better mid-range shooter than Scola.

[whottt]

That's the hardest thing about learning spanish: verb conjunction.

In english you say:In spanish you need to add a word and change the verb

I like A mi me gusta

you like A vos te gusta

he a el le gusta
she likes a ella le gusta
it "It" doesn't exist

we a nostotros nos gusta
you like a ustedes les gusta
they a ellos les gusta

That weird...I haven't seen vos yet. I know that word from French but I didn't know it was used in Spanish. I thought "you" would tu. Most of that of his familiar from my class but there are some things I haven't seen yet. Anyway, thanks for the Spanish lesson. I appreciate it and you are hereby excluded from any further group insults directed towards the Scola Fans :tu

Muchos gracias.

[whottt]

Do you guys use vosotros regularly in Argentina?

My Spanish Professor also told me how Argentina got it's name and that it came from a French word, which is kind of interesting.

[DAF86]

That weird...I haven't seen vos yet. I know that word from French but I didn't know it was used in Spanish. I thought "you" would tu. Most of that of his familiar from my class but there are some things I haven't seen yet. Anyway, thanks for the Spanish lesson. I appreciate it and you are hereby excluded from any further group insults directed towards the Scola Fans :tu

Muchos gracias.

Sorry, sorry my bad "vos" is only used in Argentina :p: keep using "tu"

[DAF86]

Do you guys use vosotros regularly in Argentina?

My Spanish Profesor also told me how Argentina got it's name and that it came from a French word, which is kind of interesting.

Nope "Vosotros" means "ustedes" (you in plural) and I think is used in Spain (I'm not sure).

And I didn't know the word Argentina came from the French langauge. Do you know which and what it means?

[mystargtr34]

Bealive me if somebody tells me that Bonner would become the next finals MVP if I give my left nut, I would do it. But I don't see him now as a better player than Scola. And I don't think he's a better offensive player than Scola either. He can shoot the three but he doesn't have the post up game that Luis has nor the drible and I don't know if Bonner is a better mid-range shooter than Scola.

I also think Scola is a better player. But hes become slightly over rated now days. I think hes caught abit of Ben Wallace syndrome. People have been continuously calling him under rated since last year, to the point that he is now over rated. Hes a nice role player, damn good role player - but nothing more.

Bonner has shown a willingness recently to pump fake and drive in from the 3 point line, and hes starting to hit those little short-mid range pull ups. Scola definately has a better post game, in fact Bonner doesnt have one at all - but its hard for Scola to get alot of his shots of because 1) Hes undersized and 2) Hes not athletic. Ive seen him abuse jumpin jacks in the post before, but a good defender wont leave his feet, and when they dont he struggles to get a good shot off. Alot of his points come from his improved mid range J, and broken plays because he has such a good nose for the ball. Thats not a knock on him though.

[whottt]

Nope "Vosotros" means "ustedes" (you in plural) and I think is used in Spain (I'm not sure).

And I didn't know the word Argentina came from the French langauge. Do you know which and what it means?



Yeah, I can't remember the exact details but Argentina comes from a combination of the French word "argenté" which means silvery, and the Spanish word costa for coast...Silvery Coast or Costa Argenté = Argentina. I can't remember if my professor said there was a bunch of silver on the coast of Argentina or if it just looked silvery.

[DAF86]

I also think Scola is a better player. But hes become slightly over rated now days. I think hes caught abit of Ben Wallace syndrome. People have been continuously calling him under rated since last year, to the point that he is now over rated. Hes a nice role player, damn good role player - but nothing more.

Bonner has shown a willingness recently to pump fake and drive in from the 3 point line, and hes starting to hit those little short-mid range pull ups. Scola definately has a better post game, in fact Bonner doesnt have one at all - but its hard for Scola to get alot of his shots of because 1) Hes undersized and 2) Hes not athletic. Ive seen him abuse jumpin jacks in the post before, but a good defender wont leave his feet, and when they dont he struggles to get a good shot off. Alot of his points come from his improved mid range J, and broken plays because he has such a good nose for the ball. Thats not a knock on him though.

He doesn't seem like the athletic type but he's pretty quick for a guy his size. But like you said he tries to use his brain more with a lot of "pump fakes" and "up and unders" but when his defender doesn't buy it he has a nice touch too. The shot becomes a lower % one but he still can make some go in.

[DAF86]

Yeah, I can't remember the exact details but Argentina comes from a combination of the French word "argenté" which means silvery, and the Spanish word costa for coast...Silvery Coast or Costa Argenté = Argentina. I can't remember if my professor said there was a bunch of silver on the coast of Argentina or if it just looked silvery.

Thanks a lot :toast

You learn something new everyday. I feel a little embarrased I didn't know that. :oops

[whottt]

Thanks a lot :toast

You learn something new everyday. I feel a little embarrased I didn't know that. :oops

That's ok...most people in the United States don't know America is derived from a Latin Word(or name anyway), not even a lot of the latin Americans that live here.

[Indazone]

buen gusto no?

[whottt]

buen gusto no?

Tu chupa mucho pito si?

[ElNono]

Yeah, I can't remember the exact details but Argentina comes from a combination of the French word "argenté" which means silvery, and the Spanish word costa for coast...Silvery Coast or Costa Argenté = Argentina. I can't remember if my professor said there was a bunch of silver on the coast of Argentina or if it just looked silvery.

You share a lot in common with your professor, in the full-of-shit department...
Argentina comes from the Latin word argentum (silver). Back in 1516 Juan de Solis named the main river Rio Dulce (Sweet River), but the portuguese thought there were silver deposits on it, so they called it Rio da Prata. By the 1530's the spanish version of the portuguese name started to make the rounds in literature (Venetian Atlas, Martín del Barco Centenera, Capítulo General de la Orden Franciscana), and eventually became official in 1776, when the territory was named Virreinato del Río de la Plata.

[mystargtr34]

uno dos tres amigo.

[whottt]

You share a lot in common with your professor, in the full-of-shit department...

Well he is an Argentine so you are probably right about that, however I can't be held accountable for what he told me in class.



Argentina comes from the Latin word argentum (silver). Back in 1516 Juan de Solis named the main river Rio Dulce (Sweet River), but the portuguese thought there were silver deposits on it, so they called it Rio da Prata. By the 1530's the spanish version of the portuguese name started to make the rounds in literature (Venetian Atlas, Martín del Barco Centenera, Capítulo General de la Orden Franciscana), and eventually became official in 1776, when the territory was named Virreinato del Río de la Plata.


And nowhere in your story do I see how the country of Argentina got the name Argentina. Dipshit. Suppose you tell me when the Spanish version of the word Argentina originated.

[Brutalis]

Things are wonderful in my world. Scola and Splitter have completed our lineup and we are god-like. Timmy is working his other 5 fingers and things could not be better.

Ah man, hello real world.

[underdawg]

Well he is an Argentine so you are probably right about that, however I can't be held accountable for what he told me in class.

And nowhere in your story do I see how the country of Argentina got the name Argentina. Dipshit. Suppose you tell me when the Spanish version of the word Argentina originated.

The word Argentina comes from the Latin Argentum, that means “silver”.
The concept had been coined in a Venetian atlas of 1536 and afterwards Martín del Barco Centenera, member of the expedition by Ortíz de Zárate, published in 1602 a long poem about these lands under the title “La Argentina”. Such name was kept in the literature environment, but not at the beginnings of the Nation. The most frequent name given at that time was “Río de la Plata” (Silver River), of an undoubtedly semantic association, established in the previous century with the creation of the “Virreinato” (Viceroyalty) in 1776 and linked to the obligatory route of Potosí cargos towards Spain. After several decades of appearing, silences and alternations with other names, on October 8, 1860 in the city of Paraná, the then President Santiago Derqui ruled the denomination of República Argentina (Argentine Republic), by means of a decree, and afterwards Leiutenant Mitre used the name of President of the Argentine Republic , being established since that time

[kuato]

Voseo is originary from Spain, at first used by the aristocracy and high society, now it is mostly spoken in Argentina, Uruguay, and parts of Bolivia and Central America, Voseo Spanish uses the alternative second person singular pronoun vos instead of tú, as well as an alternative conjugation of second person the present indicative and imperative. For example, sos replaces eres, and tenés replaces tienes. I demand an spanish forum inside spurstalk !!! :toast , whoot sos un pelotudo !!! :toast . Go Scola, go Bonner !, and everybody just shut the fuck up.

[Spursfan092120]

It's cool. Spanish is the hardest language to learn

Actually, believe it or not, the hardest language in the world to learn is English. With all of our slang and whatnot, it's been rated as the hardest.

[ElNono]

Well he is an Argentine so you are probably right about that, however I can't be held accountable for what he told me in class.

I don't know your professor but I'm 100% sure you're full of shit...


And nowhere in your story do I see how the country of Argentina got the name Argentina. Dipshit. Suppose you tell me when the Spanish version of the word Argentina originated.

There's no concrete set date and place for the origin of the word. You can only go back to the literature at the time. If you were interested at all, you would have googled some of the literature I posted. Back in the 1600's Martín del Barco Centenera wrote a poem aptly named 'La Argentina', describing the history of the Silver river and it's neighboring lands. In the Capítulo General de la Orden Franciscana (Valladolid, 1536) the region was already named 'City of Argentina'.

Now, what we do know about Argentina's colonial history, is that the region was discovered by Spanish sailors, who created the first colony there. A little more up north, where Brazil is, the portuguese sailors set foot. And the British showed up in the early 1800's and attempted to overthrow the Spanish colony before independence was finally declared (1810-1816). The french were never around that area. They were more interested in the caribbean region, where they setup a few colonies, some of which last until today.

There, you got a history lesson for free. :toast

[ElNono]

The word Argentina comes from the Latin Argentum, that means “silver”.
The concept had been coined in a Venetian atlas of 1536 and afterwards Martín del Barco Centenera, member of the expedition by Ortíz de Zárate, published in 1602 a long poem about these lands under the title “La Argentina”. Such name was kept in the literature environment, but not at the beginnings of the Nation. The most frequent name given at that time was “Río de la Plata” (Silver River), of an undoubtedly semantic association, established in the previous century with the creation of the “Virreinato” (Viceroyalty) in 1776 and linked to the obligatory route of Potosí cargos towards Spain. After several decades of appearing, silences and alternations with other names, on October 8, 1860 in the city of Paraná, the then President Santiago Derqui ruled the denomination of República Argentina (Argentine Republic), by means of a decree, and afterwards Leiutenant Mitre used the name of President of the Argentine Republic , being established since that time

:toast

[whottt]

The word Argentina comes from the Latin Argentum, that means “silver”.
The concept had been coined in a Venetian atlas of 1536 and afterwards Martín del Barco Centenera, member of the expedition by Ortíz de Zárate, published in 1602 a long poem about these lands under the title “La Argentina”. Such name was kept in the literature environment, but not at the beginnings of the Nation. The most frequent name given at that time was “Río de la Plata” (Silver River), of an undoubtedly semantic association, established in the previous century with the creation of the “Virreinato” (Viceroyalty) in 1776 and linked to the obligatory route of Potosí cargos towards Spain. After several decades of appearing, silences and alternations with other names, on October 8, 1860 in the city of Paraná, the then President Santiago Derqui ruled the denomination of República Argentina (Argentine Republic), by means of a decree, and afterwards Leiutenant Mitre used the name of President of the Argentine Republic , being established since that time

How do you know they lifted the argen part straight from the Latin Argentum and not the French Argente? Argente is closer to Argentina than Argentum. And no one was speaking latin then...in any case, the French word is closer to silver than either the Spanish or the Portugese. There are some differences between what I was told and what you are telling me now...but that is the major one...plus I know he mentioned Costa being part of the reason. I do believe he mentioned the shit about the Portugese but I don't remember those details...nor are my notes complete. I just wrote down Costa and Argente from the note session.

And this guy is an Argie(who is naturalized in the U S), not only that but he speaks Italian and French as well. So he's pretty familiar with the Latin languages. Seems to be a smart guy...says he was recruited by the CIA once upon a time. Then again...he very well could be full of shit about that.

Anyway...I am not an expert on Argentina nor have I ever claimed to be, but he did tell us that the origin comes from the meshing of the words Costa and Argente...like I said originally, I don't remember the details of why those names were chosen...I just remember the words being used because I wrote them down.

[whottt]

Hold on...I'm going to go look and see if I have any other notes. Actually...I wouldn't mind bringing this up in class since that asshat failed me on the first test.

[kuato]

Hold on...I'm going to go look and see if I have any other notes. Actually...I wouldn't mind bringing this up in class since that asshat failed me on the first test.
Do you at least know why they call it "Latin" America ?

[whottt]

Do you at least know why they call it "Latin" America ?

No need to be an asshole kuato...

Let's follow the line of this debate real quick...

whottt: I just learned in my Spanish class that Argentina comes from a French word.

Is whottt at this point claiming to be an expert on the origin of the word Argentina? No...whottt is saying he just learned this in class.

Argie: asks for explanation.

whottt: repeats what he was told in class and is promptly called full of shit dumbass etc.

whottt: does not argue the point as most would when being called full of shit for no reason. Because whottt knows he is not certain.

whottt then has his intelligence insulted and is the recipient of smartass remarks when whottt has never claimed expertise on the subject and has in fact asked for clarification.

Do you see why I am prone to insulting you guys when make stupid conclusions like that?

If I am wrong

A. I never claimed this to be some kind of expert knowledge...or argued the point from a positon of ignorance as El Nono would do if insulted.

B. It is because I was given incorrect information from what should have been a trusted authority on the subject. One of your own countrymen in fact.

Do not make the mistake that because whottt gave credence to the knowledge of one of your own countrymen that he is somehow stupid.


That would be stupid on your part...

IOW, no one has any grounds to be condescending to whottt based on what has transpired in this discussion so far...that would very much be case of grasping at straws due to past assrapings.

[ElNono]

The French language comes from the Latin language used by the Roman empire. Just like Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, etc. The 'Romantic' language however, has influences from the Celtic and Germanic languages also. Basically, argenté also comes from the Latin argentum.
Now, the reason why it's not derived from the French word is that historically speaking, the French just were not in the area back then. Also, the earliest references to the Venetian and Spanish texts indicate an origin of the word somewhere in those regions.

[ElNono]

No need to be an asshole kuato...

Let's follow the line of this debate real quick...

whottt: I just learned in my Spanish class that Argentina comes from a French word.

Is whottt at this point claiming to be an expert on the origin of the word Argentina? No...whottt is saying he just learned this in class.

Argie: asks for explanation.

whottt: repeats what he was told in class and is promptly called full of shit dumbass etc.

whottt: does not argue the point as most would when being called full of shit for no reason. Because whottt knows he is not certain.

whottt then has his intelligence insulted and is the recipient of smartass remarks when whottt has never claimed expertise on the subject and has in fact asked for clarification.

Do you see why I am prone to insulting you guys when make stupid conclusions like that?

If I am wrong

A. I never claimed this to be some kind of expert knowledge...or argued the point from a positon of ignorance as El Nono would do if insulted.

B. It is because I was given incorrect information from what should have been a trusted authority on the subject. One of your own countrymen in fact.

Do not make the mistake that because whottt gave credence to the knowledge of one of your own countrymen that he is somehow stupid.


That would be stupid on your part...

IOW, no one has any grounds to be condescending to whottt based on what has transpired in this discussion so far...that would very much be case of grasping at straws due to past assrapings.

You're just very amusing when you start backtracking and shitting all over yourself. :lol

Anyways, it's just you being you. Nothing new here.

I'll just add my 2c about this Scola thread. I think at this point is somewhat irrelevant wether he would have been with the Spurs or not. I think a lopsided trade like Gasol really changed the playing field in the West, and while in years past a guy like Oberto and/or Thomas would have sufficed, now we need a lot more. I don't think Luis can gives all that we need right now. Maybe in a couple of years he'll be better, but TD's window and the Spurs objective is to win now. And to win now and beat this Laker team we need to score in bunches, and Matt has been fairly good at that. We will also need to tighten the defense, but I think if we work a little harder in doing the rotations better and guarding the perimeter better, we can be a top 10 defensive team. And that might just be enough to leave the Lakers behind.

[whottt]

The French language comes from the Latin language used by the Roman empire. Just like Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, etc.

Don't insult me. This is why you and I find ourselves at odds frequently. Seriously. Because you say shit like this to me.


El Nono...did you know Tony Parker is the point guard of the Spurs?

Do you like it when I do it to you?


The 'Romantic' language however, has influences from the Celtic and Germanic languages also. Basically, argenté also comes from the Latin argentum.
Now, the reason why it's not derived from the French word is that historically speaking, the French just were not in the area back then.

In the area of where, Costa Argentino...or Spain?




Also, the earliest references to the Venetian and Spanish texts indicate an origin of the word somewhere in those regions.

What regions?

Look no matter what the word is Latin origin...the question is did they get the Argent part directly from Latin or did they borrow it from the French argente? My instructor speaks almost every major latin language(he might even speak Romanian for all I know) so he knows the word descended from Latin...but he specifically mentioned that they were basing their translation upon the French word argente...and the French were the only country of the 3 being discussed here, using a word that sounded like anything remotely close to Argentina as the word for silver or silvery at that point in time.

[kuato]

The French language comes from the Latin language used by the Roman empire. Just like Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, etc. The 'Romantic' language however, has influences from the Celtic and Germanic languages also. Basically, argenté also comes from the Latin argentum.
Now, the reason why it's not derived from the French word is that historically speaking, the French just were not in the area back then. Also, the earliest references to the Venetian and Spanish texts indicate an origin of the word somewhere in those regions.
¡chapó! , thats why is asked whottt if he knows why is the latin part in Latin America :P , even if it comes from the french, the word is still latin, so there where people speaking latin in those times hahah.

[kuato]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Confederation

"At the site of Strasbourg, the Romans established a military outpost and named it Argentoratum. (Hence the town is commonly called Argentina in medieval Latin."

[whottt]

¡chapó! , thats why is asked whottt if he knows why is the latin part in Latin America :P , even if it comes from the french, the word is still latin, so there where people speaking latin in those times hahah.


Goddamn you guys are fucking stupid...this is why you piss me off.


He didn't say argentum.
He didn't say argento(the Italian word for silvery)
He specifically said they got it from the French version of the word, "argente".

I know it is a latin word douche bag....the guys speaks Italian, French and Spanish? Do you understand the relevance there? He teaches Spanish at a University...don't you think that he'd know it was latin even if I didn't know this first grade knowledge?

He didn't say latin...he said French, "argente".

Do you understand that I didn't just pull the french out of my ass? That it was an expert in the 3 major latin languages, from your own country that said this?

Don't ya think he knows it' latin? Dumbass. He's the one that said it.

Sigh...I give up.

[kuato]

Do you understand that i live in Argentina and i know where the fuck comes the name of my country ? , so .. stop talking useless shit , search a little on google and forget about yout stupid argie teacher , he was wrong about Argentina like you are wrong about Scola. :downspin:

[ElNono]

Don't insult me. This is why you and I find ourselves at odds frequently. Seriously. Because you say shit like this to me.


El Nono...did you know Tony Parker is the point guard of the Spurs?

Do you like it when I do it to you?


I mean no insult. There's other people reading these forums and in my everyday dealings with Americans, many don't know little things like this. I'm glad you do, and shows your level of education. If you already know this stuff feel free to gloss over it.



In the area of where, Costa Argentino...or Spain?

What regions?

Look no matter what the word is Latin origin...the question is did they get the Argent part directly from Latin or did they borrow it from the French argente? My instructor speaks almost every major latin language(he might even speak Romanian for all I know) so he knows the word descended from Latin...but he specifically mentioned that they were basing their translation upon the French word argente...and the French were the only country of the 3 being discussed here, using a word that sounded like anything remotely close to Argentina as the word for silver or silvery at that point in time.

The reason it's highly unlikely, if not flat out impossible that it comes from the French, is that 1) The Spanish discovered the land. 2) The Portuguese suggested that there might be silver in the river. 3) The earliest literature you can find using the word is either Spanish or Venetian.

France really doesn't enter the picture historically speaking. There were really not that interested in that region to begin with.

Anyways, gotta sleep... good night!

[whottt]

I mean no insult. There's other people reading these forums and in my everyday dealings with Americans, many don't know little things like this. I'm glad you do, and shows your level of education. If you already know this stuff feel free to gloss over it.

Most every one above the age of 10 in the Western World knows Italian, French and Spanish descended from Latin...that's common knowledge. Fewer know Romanian is also part of this family...




The reason it's highly unlikely, if not flat out impossible that it comes from the French, is that 1) The Spanish discovered the land.

Most everyone in this discussion knows this.



2) The Portuguese suggested that there might be silver in the river.

Never said otherwise.



3) The earliest literature you can find using the word is either Spanish or Venetian.

Which word? Argentina? I didn't say Argentina was a french word...I said it comes from a French word.




France really doesn't enter the picture historically speaking. There were really not that interested in that region to begin with.

That's got little or no relevance...France was the 1A or 1B world power at the point in time we are discussing here...and they are very close to Spain geographically, even if not on this continent.




Anyways, gotta sleep... good night!

Well...I want to know, and I would like to have the details ironed out before bringing this up in class. Don't tell me I'm wrong and then not tell me why.

[ElNono]

And for the record, I speak fluent English, Spanish and Portuguese and only partially Italian and French (good enough to sustain a conversation, but not good enough to write, say, an essay).
It's not your fault whottt, but your professor probably pulled a fast one on you.

Good nite

[whottt]

And for the record, I speak fluent English, Spanish and Portuguese and only partially Italian and French (good enough to sustain a conversation, but not good enough to write, say, an essay).
It's not your fault whottt, but your professor probably pulled a fast one on you.

Good nite

He pulled a fast one on the entire class if what you say is true...why would he do that? Are argies just assholes that like to spread disinformation in general?

[mystargtr34]

What the fuck is this. Talk about Luis Scola. Theres a political/club forum for this.

[whottt]

Do you understand that i live in Argentina and i know where the fuck comes the name of my country ? , so .. stop talking useless shit , search a little on google and forget about yout stupid argie teacher , he was wrong about Argentina like you are wrong about Scola. :downspin:

But I just want to make sure you know that when you ask me if I know shit like that French and Spanish are descended from Latin...you aren't asking me that, you're asking him that. A PHD who speaks the major latin languages...who just so happens to be from Latin America.

He said argente. From the French.

And he said it was a combination of the words costa and argentino(from argente)

Costa Argentino
Costa Argente

= Argentina.



Smart guy.

[whottt]

And for the record, I speak fluent English, Spanish and Portuguese and only partially Italian and French (good enough to sustain a conversation, but not good enough to write, say, an essay).

Well...you seem to be weakest in the two languages that use a word derived from Argentum for silvery...as opposed to the ones that use a word that begins with P.

I'm not disputing what you say...to do so would require me to argue form a postion of ignorance...I'd just like more clarification. Because nothing you guys have told me yet would constitute that....and I'd like to know these little things before I challenge the knowledge of a PHD in his own classroom.

[whottt]

It's going to be funny if you guys get owned on this...and it is derived from silvery coast...

Then we're going to see who the stupid ones are...because they don't even know the etymology of their own country.

For Me? That's easy...Amerigo Vespucci. Itailian(sigh and Latin) Shit that was hard.

Based on this debate so far...I'm going with the PHD over the guys telling me shit like, do you know why it's called Latin America? And that think the knowledge that French, Italian and Spanish are descended from latin is somehow exclusive...

I think he's right and it does come from Costa being added to Argente(or Argentino)...and I think you guys are wrong...because neither of you have yet told me where they A came from...and he did, from Costa.


I wish you guys were right and he was wrong...as he flunked me on the first test and I would like nothing better than to bust his ass, unfortunatley that doesn't seem to be the case.


Let me know when you find out where the A came from...

[ElNono]

Which word? Argentina? I didn't say Argentina was a french word...I said it comes from a French word.

You said the name of the country, Argentina, comes from the French word argenté, together with something else relating to a coast. The earlier literature that refer to that region of land as 'Argentina' are both Spanish and Venetian.


That's got little or no relevance...France was the 1A or 1B world power at the point in time we are discussing here...and they are very close to Spain geographically, even if not on this continent.

Of course it's relevant. Each European kingdom got to name their colonies as they wished. The fact that there's no French colonies anywhere near that area, that the region was pretty much Spanish throughout it's existance as a colony, and the fact that most literature you can find from the era is not French would certainly point to France really having nothing to do with it.

Now, if you're looking for a certain date and time when somebody coined the word, you're not gonna get that. Not from me or your professor. But again, if you look back to what has been documented, the French are probably the least you'll think about.

[whottt]

Now, if you're looking for a certain date and time when somebody coined the word, you're not gonna get that. Not from me or your professor.

Yeah...he's only got a PHD in linguistics(latin ones in particular)...what the hell would he know about word origins?




But again, if you look back to what has been documented, the French are probably the least you'll think about.

You're trying to keep it civil and I respect that...but I don't think you understood what I was saying. I wasn't giving the historical facts...I was giving him the etymology as I was told it by a linguistics professor...I purposely glossed over the historical aspect.

[ElNono]

It's going to be funny if you guys get owned on this...and it is derived from silvery coast...

Then we're going to see who the stupid ones are...because they don't even know the etymology of their own country.

For Me? That's easy...Amerigo Vespucci. Itailian(sigh and Latin) Shit that was hard.

Based on this debate so far...I'm going with the PHD over the guys telling me shit like, do you know why it's called Latin America? And that think the knowledge that French, Italian and Spanish are descended from latin is somehow exclusive...

I think he's right and it does come from Costa being added to Argente(or Argentino)...and I think you guys are wrong...because neither of you have yet told me where they A came from...and he did, from Costa.


I wish you guys were right and he was wrong...as he flunked me on the first test and I would like nothing better than to bust his ass, unfortunatley that doesn't seem to be the case.


Let me know when you find out where the A came from...

What's really funny is that we already told you where the A word comes from, not only me, but other posters also. It's Argentum, Latin for silver.
What's completely hilarious is that you rather stick with your PHD professor that pulled a fast one on you, than simply accept you might be wrong...

[whottt]

What's really funny is that we already told you where the A word comes from, not only me, but other posters also. It's Argentum, Latin for silver.
What's completely hilarious is that you rather stick with your PHD professor that pulled a fast one on you, than simply accept you might be wrong...

Not the beginning a, the ending one. Argentina.


I'm going to go ahead and conclude that the tenured PHD in Spanish Linguistics at the University I attend, who just so happens to be from Argentina, is probably more informed than two asshats on a message board that think they are smart because they know spanish and french are latin languages...call me silly. I don't think he was pulling a fast one for absolutely no reason about the origin of the name of his own home country...

I think that'd be pretty fucking idiotic, and this guy does not strike me as an idiot. Even if that does make him somewhat of a rarity among the Argentines I know.

[ElNono]

He pulled a fast one on the entire class if what you say is true...why would he do that? Are argies just assholes that like to spread disinformation in general?

Wouldn't be the first time. There's an old saying back home: Argentina is a wonderful country, the only problem is that is full of argentines.

[whottt]

Wouldn't be the first time. There's an old saying back home: Argentina is a wonderful country, the only problem is that is full of argentines.

Damn that's harsh...I generally like them, unless their name is Scola. :smokin

[ElNono]

Not the beginning a, the ending one. Argentina.


I'm going to go ahead and conclude that the tenured PHD in Spanish Linguistics at the University I attend, who just so happens to be from Argentina, is probably more informed than two asshats on a message board that think they are smart because they know spanish and french are latin languages...call me silly. I don't think he was pulling a fast one for absolutely no reason about the origin of the name of his own home country...

I think that'd be pretty fucking idiotic, and this guy does not strike me as an idiot. Even if that does make him somewhat of a rarity among the Argentines I know.

LOL, you believe what you want. You were backpedaling not 15 posts ago.

God forbid whottt gets his e-rep crushed AGAIN in these forums!

That Wikipedia article posted earlier by another user should tell you all you need to know about the name's origins. Shit, they even have a picture of the 1502 poem. And BTW, you can tell your teacher 'que se deje de mandar fruta'...

[whottt]

LOL, you believe what you want. You were backpedaling not 15 posts ago.

Right...because I don't argue from a position of ignorance. You might, and you might think that because you do I do....but I don't.

All I have to do is call you a douche bag and you'll argue that the sky is yellow. And the more I call you a douchebag the harder you'll argue it's yellow.


Me however, I am the easiest guy in the world to beat when I am uncertain of what I am saying.

And what you see as me no longer backpedaling is me having a choice of who to believe here...and me being unconvinced by the wikipedia articles you are posting, as well as yourselves, what with the, "did you know Spanish and French are latin languages" type of brilliant insight.




God forbid whottt gets his e-rep crushed AGAIN in these forums!

Yeah whatever...the fact is that I have never argued that I am right in this particular debate...for I don't know for certain that I am. So my e-rep were I worried about it, was at no point on the line.

I said I learned something in class and repeated what I learned...you, the previous beneficiary of a couple of ass rippings from me said I was full of shit for repeating what I was told. As if it was some bold statement of fact.

And just for future reference...I'd much rather piss off dumbasses than have a good e-rep. Figure it out.



That Wikipedia article posted earlier by another user should tell you all you need to know about the name's origins. Shit, they even have a picture of the 1502 poem.

Yeah I know what "wikipedia" says. Do you realize wikipedia pretty much sucks and is no substitute for a formal education?

I also know what several other sources say, none of them are answering the question I am asking to be answered though...and neither are you.

[urunobili]

Sorry, sorry my bad "vos" is only used in Argentina :p: keep using "tu"

EPIC FAIL

"vos" is used in both Rio de la Plata countries not exclusively in Argentina...

whottt FTW! :toast

[ElNono]

Right...because I don't argue from a position of ignorance. You might, and you might think that because you do I do....but I don't.


whottt: does not argue the point as most would when being called full of shit for no reason. Because whottt knows he is not certain.

whottt then has his intelligence insulted and is the recipient of smartass remarks when whottt has never claimed expertise on the subject and has in fact asked for clarification.


See what I mean by 'shitting all over yourself'??? You do this a lot. Please make up your mind...



Me however, I am the easiest guy in the world to beat when I am uncertain of what I am saying.


Been there repeatedly...


And what you see as me no longer backpedaling is me having a choice of who to believe here...and me being unconvinced by the wikipedia articles you are posting, as well as yourselves, what with the, "did you know Spanish and French are latin languages" type of brilliant insight.

My source is actually the government of Argentina itself. Here's the link:
http://www.argentina.gov.ar/argentina/portal/paginas.dhtml?pagina=231

It just corroborates what the Wikipedia article expresses, but it's in spanish. Considering you're just learning spanish, I figured it would be difficult for you to use it as a source.


Yeah whatever...the fact is that I have never argued that I am right in this particular debate...for I don't know for certain that I am. So my e-rep were I worried about it, was at no point on the line.


Really? You keep on pushing your French agenda when showed repeated times to be wrong... just say you were wrong, that somebody pulled a fast one on you and we'll be moving on.


I said I learned something in class and repeated what I learned...you, the previous beneficiary of a couple of ass rippings from me said I was full of shit for repeating what I was told. As if it was some bold statement of fact.

LOL, this coming from the easiest guy to own in these forum. If I had a dime for each time you got owned in these forums, I would be looking at a multi million dollar stash right now.


And just for future reference...I'd much rather piss off dumbasses than have a good e-rep. Figure it out.

Sure you do. That's why you keep coming back.


Yeah I know what "wikipedia" says. Do you realize wikipedia pretty much sucks and is no substitute for a formal education?

Are you going to argue with the government of Argentina now? I mean, I recall you arguing with the dictionary before. I'm not really surprised.


I also know what several other sources say, none of them are answering the question I am asking to be answered though...and neither are you.

You asked where the word Argentina comes from. Doesn't get much clear than:
La palabra argentina proviene del latín (argentum, plata).

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