Out of in left field trade idea...

[twilo73]

... I'm as happy with our 'Small Fab Four' group as any, but I also think we need another big. Now most of you are focusing on Camby and Kaman as the only possible trade candidates. I think I have a very very very dark horse which we have a 20% chance of trading for... Amare Stoudemire. He has already stated several times he is not happy in Phoenix because of Shaquille O'neal, and he doesn't like Porter's system.

Offering Parker is too much, plus they arleady have Nash, Hill and Mason are two young and inexperienced... they need to win now or not win at all.

So my offer as much as it hurts me would be Manu, Mahinmi, and Oberto (for cap reasons)... plus if they want a couple of 2nd rounders.

Would that get it done? Would you do it?

Our team:
Parker Hill
Mason Idoka
Finley Bowen
Duncan Bonner
Amare KT

I like this because it guarantees that we will have a good team beyond Ducan's retirement if we resign Mason and Amare in 2010... also it gives us an edge in resigning two good players and not having to fight everyone else for them.

Thoughts?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I would switch Manu with Parker :stirpot:.

[Supreme_Being]

This is travesty.

[Tully365]

Blasphemy.

[silk]

Please.....

[Doug Collins]

I think I have a very very very dark horse which we have a 20% chance of trading for... Amare Stoudemire.

20%? Did you do a quick number crunch to get that number or is that according to a reliable source? It cracks me up that you actually made up a % probability that your fake trade would work.

[Cry Havoc]

20%? Did you do a quick number crunch to get that number or is that according to a reliable source? It cracks me up that you actually made up a % probability that your fake trade would work.

LEEROOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEnKIIIIIIIIIINS!!!!!

[ClingingMars]

... I'm as happy with our 'Small Fab Four' group as any, but I also think we need another big. Now most of you are focusing on Camby and Kaman as the only possible trade candidates. I think I have a very very very dark horse which we have a 20% chance of trading for... Amare Stoudemire. He has already stated several times he is not happy in Phoenix because of Shaquille O'neal, and he doesn't like Porter's system.

Offering Parker is too much, plus they arleady have Nash, Hill and Mason are two young and inexperienced... they need to win now or not win at all.

So my offer as much as it hurts me would be Manu, Mahinmi, and Oberto (for cap reasons)... plus if they want a couple of 2nd rounders.

Would that get it done? Would you do it?

Our team:
Parker Hill
Mason Idoka
Finley Bowen
Duncan Bonner
Amare KT

I like this because it guarantees that we will have a good team beyond Ducan's retirement if we resign Mason and Amare in 2010... also it gives us an edge in resigning two good players and not having to fight everyone else for them.

Thoughts?

I don't agree with this, but just to give it some thought:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=272~2774~2805~1727&teams=21~21~21~24&te=&cash=

with parker:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~2774~2805~1015&teams=24~21~21~21&te=&cash=

-Mars

[Doug Collins]

LEEROOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEnKIIIIIIIIIINS!!!!!

DAMMIT LEROY!!!!

[Tully365]

I've never liked Amare as a player-- yes, he can score, but his mental mistakes are endless and his game is the exact opposite of what I watch and admire the Spurs for... intelligent team play. Come 2010, I'm hoping first for Bosh, then for Dirk, and after that, I'd rather see the Spurs get two good role players rather than Amare. To me, Amare is the main reason the Spurs have been able to beat the Suns in so many playoff series. He doesn't play D at all, he commits stupid fouls, and generally is a brawn over brains type of player.

[JamStone]

I have a very, very blue horse which we have a 33.3% chance to trade for Dwight Howard for Rip Hamilton, Amir Johnson, and Kwame Brown.

My blue horse and your dark horse, sitting by the fire.

[jack sommerset]

Phoenix would not do that trade.

[K-State Spur]

... I'm as happy with our 'Small Fab Four' group as any, but I also think we need another big. Now most of you are focusing on Camby and Kaman as the only possible trade candidates. I think I have a very very very dark horse which we have a 20% chance of trading for... Amare Stoudemire. He has already stated several times he is not happy in Phoenix because of Shaquille O'neal, and he doesn't like Porter's system.

Offering Parker is too much, plus they arleady have Nash, Hill and Mason are two young and inexperienced... they need to win now or not win at all.

So my offer as much as it hurts me would be Manu, Mahinmi, and Oberto (for cap reasons)... plus if they want a couple of 2nd rounders.

Would that get it done? Would you do it?

Our team:
Parker Hill
Mason Idoka
Finley Bowen
Duncan Bonner
Amare KT

I like this because it guarantees that we will have a good team beyond Ducan's retirement if we resign Mason and Amare in 2010... also it gives us an edge in resigning two good players and not having to fight everyone else for them.

Thoughts?

forget the fact that then you would have to replace Manu...

But Amare's pissed because he is not option 1A in PHX, you think he's going to react better to taking the backseat to Duncan? (and he WOULD take the backseat to Duncan)

[Big P]

I would say its more like a -20% chance...

[kace]

the spurs wouldn't want amare and he wouldn't come here.
he's "me" first, the spurs are team first.
he plays no D, the spurs play D
he's all hype, the spurs are boring (or classy, as you want)

really don't see how it can happen, not to talk about the financial aspect.

[Anti.Hero]

I'm amazed Spurs fan still thinks the Spurs would take in such players.

[twilo73]

OK dudes sorry for suggesting it... lay off a little :)

[galvatron3000]

Ginobili only for Bosh and that's it and that won't happen

[Spurtacus]

Manu and Parker are staying in SA. Talk of trading them is a punishable offense. You will surely meet death.

[tomtom]

Haywood would make a decent center I think

[Obstructed_View]

As much as I'd hate to see Manu ever leave the Spurs, I'd love to see the reaction of Suns fans to their team acquiring him. :lmao

[TDMVPDPOY]

haywood, blatche, or mikki moore......

good serviceable big men on the cheap....

[TDMVPDPOY]

As much as I'd hate to see Manu ever leave the Spurs, I'd love to see the reaction of Suns fans to their team acquiring him. :lmao

then they can have 3 stooges on there team who is the best flopper of all time

nash, raja, gino

[Indazone]

Why would you even do this when you got the number 3 pick in both the 2009 and 2010 drafts.

[wijayas]

Manu and Parker are staying in SA. Talk of trading them is a punishable offense. You will surely meet death.

:tu :toast :lmao

[JPB]

Amare wants to be marketized.

[We born to be bad]

... Amare Stoudemire. He has already stated several times he is not happy in Phoenix because of Shaquille O'neal, and he doesn't like Porter's system.

sad but true :(


Offering Parker is too much, plus they arleady have Nash, Hill and Mason are two young and inexperienced... they need to win now or not win at all.

So my offer as much as it hurts me would be Manu, Mahinmi, and Oberto (for cap reasons)... plus if they want a couple of 2nd rounders.

no way. manu's great but his age is a problem, oberto's smart but has 33 years old...we don't need two vets for amaré. steve is 34 years old, shaq's 36 raja's 35 grant's 36 ... we don't need more vets. amaré for bosh sounds good for us.

[Brazil]

The chance to see the kind of trade is 0,0000000001%

[Dalamar_the_Dark]

If he doesnt like Porter's system. You mean he is going to dig Pop's? Omg boy are you thick.

[spurspokesman]

I've never liked Amare as a player-- yes, he can score, but his mental mistakes are endless and his game is the exact opposite of what I watch and admire the Spurs for... intelligent team play. Come 2010, I'm hoping first for Bosh, then for Dirk, and after that, I'd rather see the Spurs get two good role players rather than Amare. To me, Amare is the main reason the Spurs have been able to beat the Suns in so many playoff series. He doesn't play D at all, he commits stupid fouls, and generally is a brawn over brains type of player.
Exactly

[mrspurs]

If it could really really happen. Id personally open the door and tell Manu (whos last 5 turnovers that amounted to 24 Rocket points), dont let the door hit ya on the way out. Then of course after the door was shut, Id say thanks for the memories. Then again I live here so Id basically say that to Timmy, TP, and every other Spurs player who isnt gonna stay part of this community. Without reading another post on this thread there are some in here already saying. But wait, we have Ian in Austin lets give him a chance first. hahahahaha.....Suckers.

[mathbzh]

Amare doesn't like playing next to Shaq... Would he like playing with Duncan?
Sorry Amare, but in SA there is another Shogun... still in his prime

[Phenomanul]

I'd rather the Spurs go after someone like Jeff Foster...

[twilo73]

Since Aldridge has been such a hit lately and Portland is still trying to land that 'perfect PG' what about Parker for Oden, Webster and Bayless?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1015~3417~3225~2795&teams=22~24~24~24&te=&cash=

[sonic21]

If he doesnt like Porter's system. You mean he is going to dig Pop's? Omg boy are you thick.

+1
and amare basketball IQ is too low for the spurs

[mathbzh]

Since Aldridge has been such a hit lately and Portland is still trying to land that 'perfect PG' what about Parker for Oden, Webster and Bayless?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1015~3417~3225~2795&teams=22~24~24~24&te=&cash=

Portland will not trade Oden before they know how good he will be.

[rascal]

Manu for Camby works for both teams and would improve both teams weaknesses. Those two can be traded straightup and it would work but the spurs should try to add Vaughn or Bonner for another player in a two for two.

[m33p0]

Thoughts?
Thoughts? There were no thoughts. Just a word. And the word was "no."

[mystargtr34]

Hypothetically

Id trade anyone outside of Duncan and Parker for Amare.

Manu is a stud, but Parker is more valuable given his age.

[GSH]

We could contend for a title this year, with Camby playing next to Tim. But that's not gonna happen. And getting Amare is about as likely as getting Dwight Howard.

This is a kid who could make a difference, and who we could afford. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/spencer_hawes/index.html

I would love to think there was some way to talk the Kings out of him.

[DPG21920]

We could contend for a title this year, with Camby playing next to Tim. But that's not gonna happen. And getting Amare is about as likely as getting Dwight Howard.

This is a kid who could make a difference, and who we could afford. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/spencer_hawes/index.html

I would love to think there was some way to talk the Kings out of him.

There is no way the Kings give him up. He is too young and too good.

[mrspurs]

haywood, blatche, or mikki moore......

good serviceable big men on the cheap....

Agreed.

[mrspurs]

Amare doesn't like playing next to Shaq... Would he like playing with Duncan?
Sorry Amare, but in SA there is another Shogun... still in his prime

Even right now, in the paint. Shaq is just as good as Timmy. No I wouldnt take Shaq over Timmy. But your statement about in his prime isnt correct. Timmys lost alot since he came around. So has Shaq. But Shaq is playing lights out. While Timmy who you claim is in his prime is playing so so for a player his age. Then again Shaq has less pressure with Amare at his side. While Timmy has the man who plays more like a girl Fab. And a guy both Timmy and Shaq torch anywhere they've ever been in Kurt.

[mrspurs]

you really want the Suns to win a championship dont you???
Tell you what. Kerr would actually go for it and he'd throw a couple of 2nd rounders in order to make in happen.
Nash/Ginobili/Hill/Oberto/Oneal its actually a huge upgrade for the Suns and make them very scary,while the Spurs lose 2 important peaces of the roster and Manu.
No way, and BTW, Stoudemire can't play no D.

You have got to be joking. Nash/Manu/Hill/Oneal and Fab would easily be one of the biggest turnover teams in the NBA. This squad wouldnt beat many weak teams. Wow at some peoples thinking......:lol Shaq wouldnt play with Fab. Amare to Fab would be like going pro to jr. high. He would demand a trade for himself or Fab. And the whole team would suffer. Pop did all his magic on Fab and it worked for awhile. Theres no magic left for Fab. Hes just a horrible center and timmy deserves better.

[mathbzh]

Even right now, in the paint. Shaq is just as good as Timmy. No I wouldnt take Shaq over Timmy. But your statement about in his prime isnt correct. Timmys lost alot since he came around. So has Shaq. But Shaq is playing lights out. While Timmy who you claim is in his prime is playing so so for a player his age. Then again Shaq has less pressure with Amare at his side. While Timmy has the man who plays more like a girl Fab. And a guy both Timmy and Shaq torch anywhere they've ever been in Kurt.


I was just wondering if Amare would be happy not to be the man here... only because he complains about his new role in Phoenix and the fact that the game is built around O'neal.

OK, Duncan is not as dominant as he used to be... so maybe he can't be consider still in his prime... but he is still great and does not look like he is declining fast.

[mathbzh]

Timmy... is playing so so for a player his age.

"Still in his prime" may be an overstatement... but Timmy is definitely not playing "so so".

[m33p0]

Duncan, at age 32, already past his prime?

he maybe slower than he used to be. less dominating than he used to be. but he's still as consistent as the day he was born.

some people here just want to poison your minds. don't be so gullible. :lols :lmao

[mathbzh]

You are right...:lol

[MaNuMaNiAc]

You give Manu to the Suns and you make them better,now matter how you put it.
And the Spurs with Amare and without Manu are not better at all.
I give you Fab is not all that,but he can still pass the ball, and with Manu on the court can compliment very well,and you know even though Fab. is not athletic, He can find the right spot to be at, and when you play with Nash that is a plus.
No matter how you see it,if you let Ginobili go you need to get at least someone on his same category.
Amare aint clutch,cant play no D and He's a ballhog.
BTW,Manu playing along side Nash could easily average 25 ppg.

Let's not get carried away here.

[Big P]

Manu for Camby works for both teams and would improve both teams weaknesses. Those two can be traded straightup and it would work but the spurs should try to add Vaughn or Bonner for another player in a two for two.

I'm sorry, but this is some of the stupidest shit I have ever heard....Manu for Camby STRAIGHT UP?? wow

[mrspurs]

I was just wondering if Amare would be happy not to be the man here... only because he complains about his new role in Phoenix and the fact that the game is built around O'neal.

OK, Duncan is not as dominant as he used to be... so maybe he can't be consider still in his prime... but he is still great and does not look like he is declining fast.

I will give you that much. :king Duncan, thou is worked like a mule hasnt declined like some would think . But the thought of Amare next to Timmy would turn Amare and the complete team into a defensive minded machine instantly. I could see the Drob/Tim commercial with the daisys and the gnomes. They would take KG and Perkins/Gasol and Bynum to the bank easily.

[ClingingMars]

Manu and Parker are staying in SA. Talk of trading them is a punishable offense. You will surely meet death.

[twilo73]

Marion seems to be on the block and they got an offer straight up for Marbury so I'm guessing there aren't a ton of takers... he would really help us in shoring up big defense and scoring... without giving up anything big what would Miami want from us?

[rascal]

Marion seems to be on the block and they got an offer straight up for Marbury so I'm guessing there aren't a ton of takers... he would really help us in shoring up big defense and scoring... without giving up anything big what would Miami want from us?

Your not getting a player like Marion without giving up anything big.

[rascal]

I'm sorry, but this is some of the stupidest shit I have ever heard....Manu for Camby STRAIGHT UP?? wow



Not really. Hill can take over as the starting sg and he has the ability to improve into a star caliber player. Camby is a quality center who can provide defense, rebounds, block shots and bring some offense. The problem with him, he is often injured. But the same can be said of Manu lately.

The spurs won't win without getting a quality big who can help duncan on the inside and Camby would be a good fit.

Hill has shown he has enough natural tools to develope into a top sg given the opportunity. With manu, Hill's development will be stunted and it will take longer. Hill is good enough to just throw out there now and let him develope confidence in his game where by the end of the season he is performing at a top level consistently.

Preferably the spurs could add Bonner or vaughn and get a better upgrade in a two for two trade but Manu for Camby would improve the spurs.


Hill and mason would cover the 2 guard spot. Hill could also move over and play the 1 at times.

[SpurSupremacist]

Duncan and Amare would be unstoppable. Amare is one of the best offensive players in the league. Forget about his dunking -- he is money from 18 feet. He does have a low defensive awareness, but I'm sure Tim could help him.

[superbigtime]

haywood, blatche, or mikki moore......

good serviceable big men on the cheap....

Those guys either have no IQ or ability or neither. If you are thinking of a King's big man who is disgruntled and who may not be hard to pry away from a struggling franchise, I would suggest looking past Mikki Moore to BRAD MILLER. The guy can defend, shoot, pass and is an aggressive guy who will bring a little more fire to the frontcourt than the walking dead duo of Fab and Kurt. Seriously, Brad Miller would be great in Silver and Black. You think the FO is smart enough to see it? Me either.