Why is Bonner getting 14+ shots in an NBA game?

[SequSpur]

That is the question I have? Dude, I am all for him droppin some dimes but WTF man?

He is not the guy that I want shooting it if he's cold sorry!!!!!!!!

[hater]

Pop should have sat his ass down mid 3rd quarter. Finley also. what a pathetic shooting performance.

wide open jumpers.

[Juanobili]

I'm gonna have to agree. I blame Bonner for the loss.

[Anti.Hero]

One bad game in 3 weeks.

[stxspurs]

[QUOTE=Juanobili;2970755]I'm gonna have to agree. I blame Bonner for the loss.[/QUOTE
i concur

[Juanobili]

One bad game in 3 weeks.

against the Hornets......

[G-Nob]

Can't wait to play the grizz again when we see another big bonner game.

[Anti.Hero]

against the Hornets......

He was good on D. He missed shots.

Are you saying that does not happen in the NBA? Duncan could not even get shots UP in the 4th.

Because I could ask you WTF Finley is still doing getting major minutes??????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????????

[Johnny RIngo]

Should've sat him down after that missed dunk.

[G-Nob]

Yeah he was good on D. West had two wide open threes.

[Anti.Hero]

Yeah he was good on D. West had two wide open threes.

at least come at me with some decent shit.

If you even watched the game you would have seen West being very timid to even drive on Bonner late in the game. KT and Bonner were raping West on the double team.

[rayray2k8]

So expect this from Bonner in a playoff game.
Like Shawn Marion, he'll go missing when you need him..
I dont know where this Bonner hype came from, but what do you think of
your man now??

Get over it people, got a game against Orlando tomorrow..

[Ice009]

Stupid ass fucking Bonner and his stupid double teaming Chris Paul. He is a terrible NBA player with no athleticism.

If Tony Parker actually played any defense in the last 3 weeks Matt Bonner wouldn't have to come out and help double team Paul all the time.

TP's D has been HORRIBLE.

I don't care about his offense if we keep seeing D like that then it is unacceptable and I'd rather have Hill out there and Parker can sit on the bench.

IT ALL STARTS WITH DEFENSE!

Bonner made a few mistakes, but at least he tried his ass off out there. It wasn't through a lack of effort. I can't say the same about a lot of other players tonight.

[G-Nob]

at least come at me with some decent shit.

If you even watched the game you would have seen West being very timid to even drive on Bonner late in the game. KT and Bonner were raping West on the double team.

Thats why D-West had 19. Gotta love that D

[z0sa]

Yeah he was good on D. West had two wide open threes.

One was Duncan's rotation, but he got screened off. I don't remember on the other one.

I agree Bonner took too many shots, but they were sagging off him on 70% of them. And for all the people saying Bonner isn't athletic - he actually is. I was surprised. Even other than the dunk, he was getting some serious air going for boards, was jerking it away from hornets players, I thought he did a lot of other things to impact the game even though his shooting blowed.

[ivanfromwestwood]

give him a break. he has one bad game in three weeks and he's a bust again??? maybe we should trade him right? how about this trade.....bonner, jv, udoka, and oberto for a 20pk of bud light????? lol

[Anti.Hero]

Thats why D-West had 19. Gotta love that D

19 wooooooooooooooow.


Who is this West scrub anyways? I don't even remember him from last year.

[024]

defense on david west was solid. it was when popovich called for the double on paul when things fell apart. parker should have stepped up and defended paul one on one. bonner leaving david west open for the two 3s was the tipping point.

[G-Nob]

19 wooooooooooooooow.


Who is this West scrub anyways? I don't even remember him from last year.

You're not very bright, are you? :rolleyes

[lefty]

That is the question I have? Dude, I am all for him droppin some dimes but WTF man?

He is not the guy that I want shooting it if he's cold sorry!!!!!!!!

Because he was cold tonight

So they left him open

[Ice009]

defense on david west was solid. it was when popovich called for the double on paul when things fell apart. parker should have stepped up and defended paul one on one. bonner leaving david west open for the two 3s was the tipping point.

I'm very MAD AT TP. he looks lazy as shit on defense the last few weeks. Unless he is still injured that is unacceptable. Not good enough TP, NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

[Borosai]

He sucked on offense tonight. What's important is how he's been playing recently, and how he plays tomorrow. One game isn't a problem as long as he doesn't get down about it: judging by the number of shots he took today, I doubt it will bother him too much.

Manu's infamous, untimely turnovers are worse. And his effort on that jumpball was pretty bad (yeah, CP didn't have the cleanest jump, but still, he has to get that ball).

[Lakers_55]

I was watching the game and one of the announcers said that Bonner is instructed to shoot when he has a shot and he'll stay in the game. If he passes up looks, he sits. Those are the directions Popovich gave him. Can anyone verify this from the Spurs side?

[m33p0]

That is the question I have? Dude, I am all for him droppin some dimes but WTF man?

He is not the guy that I want shooting it if he's cold sorry!!!!!!!!

because he's been hitting 50% of them 3s and he was open all game long?

[z0sa]

I was watching the game and one of the announcers said that Bonner is instructed to shoot when he has a shot and he'll stay in the game. If he passes up looks, he sits. Those are the directions Popovich gave him. Can anyone verify this from the Spurs side?

Word for word you got it

[024]

oh the reason bonner had so many shots was because NO let him have them. NO defense comes to help prevent parker or manu from driving. when parker kicks it out to the 3 pt shooters, NO let bonner open to shut down the other 3 pt shooters. same goes when NO doubles duncan. the defense rotates enough and tries to push the ball to bonner or bowen and force bonner to beat them at the three point line. this was bonner's time to shine but he missed that opportunity.

[z0sa]

oh the reason bonner had so many shots was because NO let him have them. NO defense comes to help prevent parker or manu from driving. when parker kicks it out to the 3 pt shooters, NO let bonner open to shut down the other 3 pt shooters. same goes when NO doubles duncan. the defense rotates enough and tries to push the ball to bonner or bowen and force bonner to beat them at the three point line. this was bonner's time to shine but he missed that opportunity.

Bonner did miss a golden opportunity here. His shots could have been the difference. He still impacted the game in other positive ways.

[ivanfromwestwood]

I'm very MAD AT TP. he looks lazy as shit on defense the last few weeks. Unless he is still injured that is unacceptable. Not good enough TP, NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
this is true. tp get your shit together. it looks like the celebrity life is wearing on his body.

[m33p0]

I was watching the game and one of the announcers said that Bonner is instructed to shoot when he has a shot and he'll stay in the game. If he passes up looks, he sits. Those are the directions Popovich gave him. Can anyone verify this from the Spurs side?
"Shoot or sit" that's what Pop told him. and if you're a 50% 3 pt shooter you better damn shoot if you have the shot. tonight just wasn't bonner night. it's the spices i tell yah.

[024]

I'm very MAD AT TP. he looks lazy as shit on defense the last few weeks. Unless he is still injured that is unacceptable. Not good enough TP, NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

i thought parker did a decent job taking in account that he is guarding one of the most unstoppable point guards in the league. doubling paul was not necessary.

[HarlemHeat37]

New Orleans didn't "let" Bonner shoot..if you let a 53% 3-point shooter get open shot after open shot, then your defense sucks..Bonner was due for a bad game, and unfortunately for us, it was tonight..

he didn't force anything, so don't blame him..

his defense was solid, he battled for rebounds, he hustled..

this is his first bad game in a while..

[Oh, Gee!!]

this is preamble for the playoffs. bonner will catch fire when it counts.

[tomtom]

Definitely sucks but yeah bonner really shouldn't be a volume shooter but its all good, hopefully he'll get back into it for the magic game but id like to see oberto more since he's better at passing down low

[024]

New Orleans didn't "let" Bonner shoot..if you let a 53% 3-point shooter get open shot after open shot, then your defense sucks..Bonner was due for a bad game, and unfortunately for us, it was tonight..

he didn't force anything, so don't blame him..

his defense was solid, he battled for rebounds, he hustled..

this is his first bad game in a while..

most of bonner's shots were wide open jumpers. of course NO let him shoot, they were too busy shutting down the inside lanes and doubling duncan.

[timvp]

Bonner was long past due for a bad shooting night. Besides, I kinda like this character test. Bonner chokes off a "big" game on the road because he can't hit shots when basically unguarded. How will he bounce back? Will he go into the fetal position or will he shrug it off and continue bombing tomorrow night?

Better to find out what Bonner is made out of now than some point in the playoffs.

As far as a character test for Bonner, I couldn't have drawn up a better scenario :tu

[lefty]

Bonner was long past due for a bad shooting night. Besides, I kinda like this character test. Bonner chokes off a "big" game on the road because he can't hit shots when basically unguarded. How will he bounce back? Will he go into the fetal position or will he shrug it off and continue bombing tomorrow night?

Better to find out what Bonner is made out of now than some point in the playoffs.

As far as a character test for Bonner, I couldn't have drawn up a better scenario :tu

+1

[td4mvp21]

Bonner was WIDE open just like everyone else on the team.

[mexicanjunior]

I understand Bonner is instructed to shoot but it would be nice to see him pass up a jumper to work for a better shot when the game is on the line. He is almost like a robot shooting whenever he has any daylight at all...it's nice when they go in but, when he is cold, how about working it back to one of the drivers or Timmy? I did like how he hustled on defense and worked for boards but just a little patience on offense would be cool...

[HarlemHeat37]

most of bonner's shots were wide open jumpers. of course NO let him shoot, they were too busy shutting down the inside lanes and doubling duncan.

that's not "letting" him shoot though..they're supposed to rotate.."letting" someone shoot is like leaving Ime Udoka open, or somebody that can't shoot..

[SequSpur]

Bonner was long past due for a bad shooting night. Besides, I kinda like this character test. Bonner chokes off a "big" game on the road because he can't hit shots when basically unguarded. How will he bounce back? Will he go into the fetal position or will he shrug it off and continue bombing tomorrow night?

Better to find out what Bonner is made out of now than some point in the playoffs.

As far as a character test for Bonner, I couldn't have drawn up a better scenario :tu

Did you watch the Boston Celtics game? Did you see their 10th man taking shots in crunch time? Uh hell no. Dude doesn't have the balls to play in a game against a real team. HE MISSED OPEN SHOT AFTER OPEN SHOT AFTER OPEN SHOT. He even looked shitty on a dunk and missed another one.

He was getting pushed around all over the place.

Bonner should NOT be playing against elite teams in the fourth quarter. Pop made some crucial coaching mistakes down the stretch of this game. And I agree, Parker and Manu sucked ball also, but fuck.. they were going to Bonner who had the green light....

Boston went to Garnett and Paul Pierce.

Spurs went to Bonner.

Loss.

[Lakers_55]

Word for word you got it

Ok, so he had one bad shooting game. He'll be back. Trust your coach and his decisions and the season will be more fun to watch.

[024]

that's not "letting" him shoot though..they're supposed to rotate.."letting" someone shoot is like leaving Ime Udoka open, or somebody that can't shoot..

another way of saying that is bonner wasn't a priority defensively for NO. defense can only rotate so much. after coming off a double, you can't expect the defense to chase down every shooter every time. the spurs system was built so someone on the three pt line would have a high chance of being open if the opposing team doubled duncan or sent help to stop a drive. bonner was the guy open most of the time. he missed a very big opportunity to prove himself. i hope he bounces back but his good play so far has been during the first three quarters. i think this is the first time popovich left bonner in during huge stretches in the fourth.

[SequSpur]

bonner is a joke. dude can't play against the elite teams in the nba...

[TDMVPDPOY]

bonner did this on purpose cause he knows pop is showcasing him to get traded b4 the deadline........even the feds cant bail out bonner and the spurs tonoite

[officer]

Yes, Bonner was interviewed by SA express and was instructed by Pop...shoot or sit, your choice...

spurs out...

[DPG21920]

Isn't part of having the balls taking all of those shots?

[SequSpur]

Bonner has no business playing in crunch time.

[T Park]

Bonner was long past due for a bad shooting night. Besides, I kinda like this character test. Bonner chokes off a "big" game on the road because he can't hit shots when basically unguarded. How will he bounce back? Will he go into the fetal position or will he shrug it off and continue bombing tomorrow night?

Better to find out what Bonner is made out of now than some point in the playoffs.

As far as a character test for Bonner, I couldn't have drawn up a better scenario :tu


So if Bonner comes out tommarow, doesn't shoot well, but is still agressive in shooting the ball, does he pass?

[T Park]

Stephen Jackson should be a soda vendor. Manu = Manure

[itzsoweezee]

they were daring him to shoot. he was wide open all night.

spurs just live and die by the three. it's pretty sad considering that there are actually something athletic guys on the team, manu, tony, hill.

[Austin_Toros]

bonner taking the most shots on the team is never going to work

[cherylsteele]

I would rather Bonner shoot open shots and miss than to force up bad shots and miss them. Bonner still hustled and played good "D" on West, he was not the only reason the Spurs lost tonight.
Mason missed shots.
Finley missed shots.
Manu made some terrible decisions down the stretch.
TP's "D" was sub par tonight.
Tim's game was not up to his usual standards really.

The team as a whole was off tonight.

[cherylsteele]

Did you watch the Boston Celtics game? Did you see their 10th man taking shots in crunch time?
Bonner has been the starter for the Spurs so he is not currently a 10th man, Maybe you thought you saw Fabbs on the court?

[John_C]

Pop should have adjusted on this one and drafted plays that would have benefited our other shooters. Bonner may appear to be our best shooter out there in terms of percentage, but seeing him throw brick after brick, we should have gone to other players.

Once again, the Spurs in so many plays failed to involve Duncan in the ball passing allowing the Hornets to cover most of our other shooters. Spurs fell so in-love with the 3 point shooting, I thought I was watching a Don Nelson coached team.

Sad, this was a win we let go.

[whottt]

Bonner was long past due for a bad shooting night. Besides, I kinda like this character test. Bonner chokes off a "big" game on the road because he can't hit shots when basically unguarded. How will he bounce back? Will he go into the fetal position or will he shrug it off and continue bombing tomorrow night?

Better to find out what Bonner is made out of now than some point in the playoffs.

As far as a character test for Bonner, I couldn't have drawn up a better scenario :tu


It's not about character...it's about confidence and poise. Bonner's character is fine...there was nothing wrong with Smitty's character either, in fact he had one of the best characters of anyone that has ever played for this team and was nothing but a class act for his entire time here...didn"t mean I wanted to see him doubled off of at the end.


Some guys got it and some guys don't...Bonner is too amped up and uncertain to make clutch shots. It's just the way it is...it's not a character flaw, it's a confidence flaw. If anything...having too much character is almost the antithesis of being clutch...plenty of low character aholes have been clutch in NBA history.


The guy finally figured out he needed to contribute in other ways like Duncan does...and he did so, that was the character test right there and he passed it. But I already know I don't want to see him doubled off of...I don't give a damn how good his character is.

It's not like Jack has a great character or anything...didn't mean he wouldn't punish anyone stupid enough to leave him open.

[timvp]

:rolleyes

I'm not talking about Bonner's character as a person. I'm talking about his basketball character and his ability to bounce back from adversity. Every other time in his Spurs career that he's had a bad game, he's come back with another poor performance. I'm hoping he bounces back and hits his shots and doesn't stay depressed about his bad outing.

[whottt]

The Magic aren't a character test since they aren't a team we are likely to meet in the playoffs...at least not this season. I mean Bonner is a 40% career 3 shooter.


Boston is definitely a character test...I guess Cleveland might be. But no other EC teams are.

Beyond all that...Orlando may not leave him open.

Dallas is a chacter test.
Houston is a character test.

But most of all in all of the NBA...for the Spurs, New Orleans and The Los Angeles Lakers are "character" tests of the sort you are referring too....especially if you are wide open.

Again I point out...Bonner is a career 40% 3 point shooter.

And if you are talking about the rest of his game going into the tank...well he kind of already dispelled the notion of that happening with his performance tonight. He had a good game other than his shooting...


But Matt Bonner? Matt Bonner needs to make his open shots against teams like the Hornets, Lakers and Celtics, and ensure that they never leave him...that's the key to the Spurs beating them....that is his job.

[kace]

i thought parker did a decent job taking in account that he is guarding one of the most unstoppable point guards in the league. doubling paul was not necessary.

+ 1

but considering who posted this thing about tp's defense, you know it's useless to argue since they always find a way to put any loss on parker.

Parker isn't a defensive force but he's more than decent and actually he did a good job on paul (like he did on last year PO) and i regret that Pop felt the need to double him. sometimes it works, sometimes it fires back.

but you can be sure that you'll never see these kind of post when Tim is litterrally getting abused like he was a lot of times these last games (al jefferson or against the thunder ie).


tonight, tim finley and matt's cold night on offense killed us. It happens to every player. Manu's TO (esepcially in money time) didn't help.
but if someone want to put this loss to TP not defending well one of the best player of the league by allowing him 19 pts, guess there's nothing to do other than :rolleyes


anyway, bonner's cold night is a shame because it could be his night against a big team. It brings legitimate questions about his ability to step up in big games. I still trust him. we'll see.

[jhuan16]

He just have a bad game. He'll drop 20 tomorrow

[angelbelow]

well if theyre wide open then by all means.

[raspsa]

As long as Pop was keeping him in the game, then he really had to follow Pop's instructions and let them fly if he had an open shot. Passing up the open shot would have made Pop even madder.

[urunobili]

But Matt Bonner? Matt Bonner needs to make his open shots against teams like the Hornets, Lakers and Celtics, and ensure that they never leave him...that's the key to the Spurs beating them....that is his job.

:tu

[fotan2]

double teaming CP3 is not a bad move at all . but Bonner's shooting game should be to blame (plus , the only 3 pointer he made was a fluke).

[caribbean_spur]

I agree that Bonner should not have taken that many shots, but he should not be blamed for the loss. He was not the only one missing open shots. The offense just went to hell in the 4th quarter.

[Ice009]

Bonner was WIDE open just like everyone else on the team.

Exactly.

Why is Bonner getting ripped the most here?

What about the wide open misses by everyone else?

[Ice009]

Bonner was long past due for a bad shooting night. Besides, I kinda like this character test. Bonner chokes off a "big" game on the road because he can't hit shots when basically unguarded. How will he bounce back? Will he go into the fetal position or will he shrug it off and continue bombing tomorrow night?

Better to find out what Bonner is made out of now than some point in the playoffs.

As far as a character test for Bonner, I couldn't have drawn up a better scenario :tu

At this point I don't really care about the offense. As long as Bonner is playing D that is a good enough reason to give him court time.

It all starts with defense. I'd like to see Pop reemphasize defense cause the Spurs seem to be slipping a little in that area again.

[hater]

If the Spurs are going to depend on Matt Bonner getting hot to win big games. They are in a sad state.

[BRHornet45]

Thats why D-West had 19. Gotta love that D

D-West had 21 by the way, not 19.... but hey Rick Astley did his best! hes never gonna give up!