Game Blog: Spurs @ Magic - 12/18/08

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Hill needs court time. WHy doesn't he get any?

Pop needs to be thinking about the long run here. That is stupid IMO.

What, is Pop showcasing TP for a trade or something? ;)

Yeah, I don't know why Hill isn't finishing this game. Kid is fearless and creates, something TP has momentarily lost the ability to do.

[Rohirrim]

oh shit a Biggie movie! hahaa

Baby BABYYYYYYY

[Ice009]

I am sick of hearing the excuse that the Spurs are so tired because of a back-to-back. New Orleans was on the second game of a back-to-back last night and beat a rested Spurs team.

I agree. I don't want to hear that excuse any more. I don't even classify it as an excuse.

[Josepatches_]

Hill needs court time. WHy doesn't he get any?

Pop needs to be thinking about the long run here. That is stupid IMO.

What, is Pop showcasing TP for a trade or something? ;)

:lol:lol

[phxspurfan]

I wouldn't be against benching the starters and playing Hill, Udoka, Vaughn etc the rest of the 3rd.

[Lakers999]

spurs need youth

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Check this out for a laugh - best mashup EVAH! :lmao

KJRSxDgBVy8

[Ice009]

Yeah, I don't know why Hill isn't finishing this game. Kid is fearless and creates, something TP has momentarily lost the ability to do.

I think Hill plays with great composure too. Against the Hornets I thought Hill was more composed that almost everyone else on the team. He only played limited minutes though.

He may have been 1-5 from the field in the Hornets game, but he took it to the rack hard a few times, missed a couple of tough layups, but at least he attacked and tried to create.

[peskypesky]

ok, chipping away at the lead. we can cut this to 10.

[Lakers999]

this game is turning out to be like this

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/dmpengr/ufc.jpg

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Money Mason should really be given more plays to create from. Guy looks bored out there.

[01Snake]

Stan's going to have a heart attack.

[Josepatches_]

It's not the same for TD to play against Howard than against Gortat.
That's the reason

[Rohirrim]

Why the fuck do two of our guards dribble under the basket and throw the pass through 3 magic under the basket?

Amazing.

[Trainwreck2100]

How the fuck is this team only down 13

[Ice009]

I don't like Manu's turnovers anymore.

When Manu doesn't play like Manu and is a turnover machine it is really depressing to see him play like that.

[ManuTastic]

This game, the Spurs mamas so fat...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Shit, Money, SHOOT THAT! You were all alone from 3. That's your game!

Manu doesn't have the explosion he used to, especially upwards - that's why he's throwing away so many balls. I hope it's just a fitness issue, but it's starting to become a worry.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

How the fuck is this team only down 13

I was thinking the same thing.

[Rohirrim]

What sucks about this Spurs decline is that the Lakers and Celtics are the ones whom the torch has been passed to.

[Josepatches_]

Sometimes you have to make little ajustments.
Tim can score every play against Gortat so sit him before and put him in the court when Howard is in the bench.
Of course the problem is that we don't have any big center to defend Howard when Tim is out

[Josepatches_]

Howard is in the game again.Game is over

[Rohirrim]

Stan looks like he is about to die out there.

Calm down my man.

[Roxsfan]

Orlando is just beating a team they're supposed to beat, right spursdynasty?

Ha, ha dipshit.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Funny shot there with SVG, arms crossed, and behind him JJ Redick standing with hands on hips... :lol

[holcs50]

this game is turning out to be like this

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn22/dmpengr/ufc.jpg

what fight was that? It was gnarly, i remember watching it

[ManuTP9]

Lets win, time to turn it around bench manu, now GO Spurs GO!

[024]

mason needs to learn how to finish at the rim. thats the third time he had a clear path to the basket and passed out.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Mason could get hot here. feed him.

[tomtom]

holy crap 9 point game

[ManuTastic]

Manu with another f--ing TO, Mason with the steal-back, no dice. Why the fuck can't they hit a shot?

[Ice009]

Tony stinks. Why is he taking jumpers when he isn't hitting any?????

[Josepatches_]

5th on Howard

Good news

[Darthkiller]

dwight 5th

[Rohirrim]

Howard 5 Fouls.

Manu Tony Get To Fucking Work!

THERE SHOULD BE NOOOOOOOOOO JUMPSHOTS!

[Amuseddaysleeper]

oh man, Howard with 5 fouls.

Spurs better build momentum here before they lose the game for good.

[peskypesky]

spurs are getting close...but not quite close enough yet....

go spurs!!!

[xtremesteven33]

Dwight with 5 fouls.


ANYTHINGSSS POSSSSSIBBBBBLLEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Fuck TP, you've missed, what, 8 of those tonight? So of course it's time for another one wjen we get the lead back to single digits... :rolleyes

[Chieflion]

Howard gets his 5th foul.

[Rohirrim]

Howard 5 fouls, time for the Spurs to settle on jumpers.

Watch :rollin

[Trainwreck2100]

DHo's out no more offensive rebounds

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Howard 5 Fouls.

Manu Tony Get To Fucking Work!

THERE SHOULD BE NOOOOOOOOOO JUMPSHOTS!

+Tim...

Exactly!

I can't believe it, but with Howard on 5 we are actually in this... barely.

[ILoveOranges]

Here's to hoping the Spurs pull this one off :)

[Josepatches_]

Ball to TD.That's the way to play now.

[ManuTP9]

Dwight with 5 fouls.


ANYTHINGSSS POSSSSSIBBBBBLLEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Yes we can win Go Spurs!

[td4mvp21]

Ball to someone who can score. I don't care who.

[holcs50]

MASeee

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I called it... Money Mason, feed him!

[holcs50]

god tim

[EvaLongoria]

Here we go !!!

[td4mvp21]

Duncan needs to quit with the jumpshots. Come on now.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Parker looked like roadkill in the first half (against both Gortat and Howard), but now he has the energy to drive... WTF???

[Danny.Zhu]

11 points to go

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Whether or not the Spurs come back and win I am immensely proud fo them right now. They have sucked it up and not given up and fought their way back into contention in what was a laugher.

[Rohirrim]

Nelson is going Barea on us.

[tomtom]

dammit wheres the defense

[Amuseddaysleeper]

That's game

[holcs50]

wow-why the fuck you take george out. god, why change things when they're working-sometimes pop is a retard

[Ice009]

FUCKING PATHETIC PASS FROM TP and who was defending Nelson.


FUCK. LEAVE HILL OUT THERE and bench Tony.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Feed MONEY for lordsake!!!

He hits 2 3s then doesn't see a shot for 5 possessions. Fucking stupid.

[hitmanyr2k]

I find it amazing that a 7 footer like Tim Duncan lets Nelson waltz right on in and score a fuckin layup. Duncan doesn't even leave his feet to alter the shot. What kind of fuckin defense was that?

[ILoveOranges]

Haha, I've seen teams come back from worse. Pretty awkward how some people were blowing up and calling for trades.

[Chieflion]

Nelson is killing us.

[Quiet Strength]

I find it amazing that a 7 footer like Tim Duncan let's Nelson waltz right on in and score a fuckin layup. Duncan doesn't even leave his feet to alter the shot. What kind of fuckin defense was that?

Seriously.. it was a pathetic effort from duncan.

[kace]

FUCKING PATHETIC PASS FROM TP and who was defending Nelson.


FUCK. LEAVE HILL OUT THERE and bench Tony.

manu was defending nelson on that play actually

[Allanon]

I know a guy who was the great nephew of one of the German Generals who tried to assassinate Hitler. The movie sent his family a letter asking if they could use the guys name. Pretty wild.

It should be a good movie :toast

That's pretty wild for sure. :toast

I always thought the German general assassination plot was a myth.

Hitler indeed had gone crazy. Super high and super lows for him.

[EvaLongoria]

STOP the motherfucker JUMPSHOTS please !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Duncan2177]

Good defense Tim and way to be clumsy on offense on top of that.:bang

[Ice009]

Parker looked like roadkill in the first half (against both Gortat and Howard), but now he has the energy to drive... WTF???

Well yesterday I thought it was an effort thing with TP.

If he's suddenly looking energized it could very well be that he's not trying his hardest?

He looks very unfocused since the Dallas game. How many games ago was that?

Did Jason Terry knock him that hard?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Whether or not the Spurs come back and win I am immensely proud fo them right now. They have sucked it up and not given up and fought their way back into contention in what was a laugher.

Actually, I think Howard's 5th foul and Orlando going to sleep had more than a little to do with it, but at least they didn't give up.

As for being proud of them, after you play that badly for most of the game it's hard to be proud.

[hitmanyr2k]

Seriously.. it was a pathetic effort from duncan.

It's happening far too often these days. I could have posted some of the same shit in last night's game thread against the Hornets. No one fears Duncan in the paint because they know he's not going to challenge shit.

[DubMcDub]

Spurs may or may not win this, but they come back and this thing ends up being a 5 or so point game at the end either way. They're gonna start hitting some shots.

Told you (although it's not down to 5, yet...).

[Rohirrim]

Parker left his mojo at the zoo.

[Ice009]

manu was defending nelson on that play actually

Take them both out then. I'll say that in case you take offense for me bagging your boy TP. No bias towards Manu there. Take them both out.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Well yesterday I thought it was an effort thing with TP.

If he's suddenly looking energized it could very well be that he's not trying his hardest?

He looks very unfocused since the Dallas game. How many games ago was that?

Did Jason Terry knock him that hard?

Hard, but not THIS hard! :lol

Fuck I hate Terry, cheap little shit.

[Josepatches_]

Duncan can't score and stop Nelson too.
.He is human and he is playing all the second half

[Ice009]

Told you (although it's not down to 5, yet...).

Good call. I remembered you said that.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Feed the MONEY MAKER, seriouslah...

[Ice009]

Another stupid shot from TP. What is he doing posting up down low taking a fadeaway?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Parker is singlehandedly losing this by forcing it. :rolleyes

Nelson is bigger and stronger than you and you try to post and fade on him??? Dumb. C'mon Tony, wake up, you're scaring me.

[holcs50]

wtf . Hill is getting the shaft so bad. instead were stuck with parker who is playing awful
Pop better not make hill lose all his confidence like he has done to so many other backup PG-hill was a beast before pop decided playing him 10-15 mins a game. fuckin pop

[peskypesky]

well, it looked like a game there for a bit...

[Ice009]

"Nelson defended by Parker"

Nothing but net from Nelson.

[mVp]

Nelson >>>>>>>>>>>> Parker

[Josepatches_]

One more from Nelson on TP!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

2 3s by Mason, hasn't seen the ball in 9 possessions since. Fucking abysmal.

[Quiet Strength]

Wow this is just pathetic.. the spurs are choking again

[Josepatches_]

And one more

[Borosai]

More Hill and Mason, less Parker and Ginobili please. The Spurs were playing better team basketball before.

[Ice009]

Nelson took Parker to the rack. Easy two from nelson. Great D TP.

[hitmanyr2k]

Nelson abusing Tony like he's from Enterprise rent-a-car.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Worst coaching game by Pop in a long time. All the wrong decisions.

[Josepatches_]

That's amazing!!

Why is TP in the court?

[porscha]

:bang:bang:bang:bang


i hate parker

[hoopdreams11]

Parker is getting killed tonight why is still out there

[EvaLongoria]

Throwing towel

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

wtf . Hill is getting the shaft so bad. instead were stuck with parker who is playing awful
Pop better not make hill lose all his confidence like he has done to so many other backup PG-hill was a beast before pop decided playing him 10-15 mins a game. fuckin pop

Totally.

Hill should've started the second half.

[Quiet Strength]

Parker played awful on both ends.

[Ice009]

I fucking called for Hill last night and again tonight. This shit is on POP.

TP is getting his ass lit up.

[SuperManu!!!]

If i were hill i would be completely pissed off

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Tony looks like he doesn't care, and I never say that about our players. His effort (and decsion-making) is very suspect right now.

[Spur-Addict]

Gotta love Bowen. Aye look, it's a back to back, two tough teams and they came out flat and down. You can't just expect to turn it on whenever you want. We are not even at the mid point of this seasons journey yet, we are one big and team cohesion away from where we want to be. We'll get there.

[td4mvp21]

DubMcDub , you were only half right. You forgot the part where the Spurs cut the lead and then end up losing by double digits anyway :lol

[DubMcDub]

Good call. I remembered you said that.

Well shit, looks like I ended up being absolutely wrong. Although the "comeback" did technically happen, Spurs just couldn't finish it off.

[DubMcDub]

DubMcDub , you were only half right. You forgot the part where the Spurs cut the lead and then end up losing by double digits anyway :lol

Yeah, sorry about that. :(

[td4mvp21]

Tony looks like he doesn't care, and I never say that about our players. His effort (and decsion-making) is very suspect right now.

Ruff, taking a page from my book? Do I need to call you out now? :lol

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Oh well, another bad loss.

I blame this one on Pop though. He's got it all wrong. He should be sitting Parker if he won't play hard, and he should be feeding the hot hand, which was Mason, who never saw the ball again after hitting 2 3s. Pathetic.

[td4mvp21]

Yeah, sorry about that. :(

No worries, a little forewarning would have been nice though.

[Josepatches_]

If i were hill i would be completely pissed off

True

[ManuTP9]

Nvm lol, we were down by 6 ,we could've won, I think pop should have taken TP out, he's not showing signs of defense. 15-10 will be our record, not that bad if you look at it.

[Ice009]

Tony looks like he doesn't care, and I never say that about our players. His effort (and decsion-making) is very suspect right now.

That's exactly what I said yesterday. It looks to me completely like and effort thing.


Did the Spurs try to trade TP or something and he got wind of it?

[024]

soooo trade threads coming soon? but seriously, i don't think this team right now can win a championship. clearly the scoring droughts are still happening. grabbing more shooters doesn't seem to be the solution. so adding a more dominant bigman might be another solution.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Ruff, taking a page from my book? Do I need to call you out now? :lol

Well, that's why I qualified it. :lol

Parker has been very odd the last couple of games - patches of his usual excellent play interspersed with periods where he looks like his head is elsewhere.

I wouldn't be surprised if we find out later that one of his close relatives is very sick, or Eva is, or something like that.

[Quiet Strength]

Orlando rubbing it in. Wait til them fuckers come to san antonio.

[EvaLongoria]

Tony looks like he doesn't care, and I never say that about our players. His effort (and decsion-making) is very suspect right now.

i told you. I suspect some serious personal problems in the locker room. Rumor has it.

[DubMcDub]

No worries, a little forewarning would have been nice though.

I normally don't put a whole lot of stock into the "back to back, players are gassed" thing, but it certainly seems to ring true sometimes for the Spurs. I guess that's the expected downside of having a veteran club.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

That's exactly what I said yesterday. It looks to me completely like and effort thing.


Did the Spurs try to trade TP or something and he got wind of it?

No way Spurs tried to trade him. Absolutely no way.

[Capt Bringdown]

I wonder if Pop's questionable roster management of late has caused locker room problems. We might be in deep trouble.

[Ice009]

Ime wants some court time.

[Quiet Strength]

i told you. I suspect some serious personal problems in the locker room. Rumor has it.

Maybe pop was very impressed with how hill played while parker was injured and told parker to play more like hill.

[td4mvp21]

Well, that's why I qualified it. :lol

Parker has been very odd the last couple of games - patches of his usual excellent play interspersed with periods where he looks like his head is elsewhere.

I wouldn't be surprised if we find out later that one of his close relatives is very sick, or Eva is, or something like that.

My dad and I were talking about that a while back because sometimes they players just look out of it. He was saying how we don't know what's going on in their personal life, which it is true, that affects how you play on the court. Who knows?

[xtremesteven33]

soooo trade threads coming soon? but seriously, i don't think this team right now can win a championship. clearly the scoring droughts are still happening. grabbing more shooters doesn't seem to be the solution. so adding a more dominant bigman might be another solution.



I think its also the offensive sets we run. Its pretty obvious what we run most of the time that teams pretty much know wats gonna happen.

Also another scoring big would help.

I would love to have Kaman.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

i told you. I suspect some serious personal problems in the locker room. Rumor has it.

Oh, you are an insider? Do tell.

[Ice009]

i told you. I suspect some serious personal problems in the locker room. Rumor has it.



Like what exactly????? What rumor?

[EvaLongoria]

Tony is having personal problems with some Spurs-mates, or with Pop. Maybe he's suspecting some trades rumors about him. He looks effortless, slow, careless, fat, not in body shape. He looks like knowing something we dont know about.

[Dex]

Guess I won't be making any more Game Blogs. :(

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I think its also the offensive sets we run. Its pretty obvious what we run most of the time that teams pretty much know wats gonna happen.

Also another scoring big would help.

I would love to have Kaman.

We are hardly running the motion O, although it was what kept us alive when Manu and TP were out.

More MOTION! Spurs look at their best when they play motion. Isos and pnrs are killing us right now.

[Reck]

Spurs will get blow the fuck out of Orlando.

:downspin: and :lmao

[Kori Ellis]

We are hardly running the motion O, although it was what kept us alive when Manu and TP were out.

More MOTION! Spurs look at their best when they play motion. Isos and pnrs are killing us right now.

You can really run much motion when your players are so tired they can barely run.

The Spurs bodies were just worn out today. There's not much more to the game than that.

[td4mvp21]

I normally don't put a whole lot of stock into the "back to back, players are gassed" thing, but it certainly seems to ring true sometimes for the Spurs. I guess that's the expected downside of having a veteran club.

They've won before though on back to backs in recent years. I think they were probably still a bit down from last night's game as well. That wasn't pretty. Not to mention ESPN said they weren't getting into Orlando til 3 am. Probably a combination of both.

[Spur-Addict]

I would appreciate that Doug if you weren't such a Kobe rider.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Tony is having personal problems with some Spurs-mates, or with Pop. Maybe he's suspecting some trades rumors about him. He looks effortless, slow, careless, fat, not in body shape. He looks like knowing something we dont know about.

Why the hell would the Spurs trade Parker? He's the youngest of their stars and at the peak of his game.

I think you're just making it up.

[Kori Ellis]

:downspin: and :lmao

Are you done pretending to be a Spurs fan yet?

[wijayas]

Game Over folks.
The big three is reduced to One BIg Fundamental.
Nothing to be alarmed. It just goes to show it takes time to fully recover from injuries to Tony and Manu.

By the way, Pop should just take Tony out of the game earlier when he shot 1-12 at one point.

[Kori Ellis]

Tony is having personal problems with some Spurs-mates, or with Pop. Maybe he's suspecting some trades rumors about him. He looks effortless, slow, careless, fat, not in body shape. He looks like knowing something we dont know about.

1. Change your screen name.

2. Stop just making up shit.

[Ice009]

I want to know exactly what these so called locker room problems are.

[Roxsfan]

orlando just beat a team they were expected to beat.

Spursdynasty:toast

[Reck]

Are you done pretending to be a Spurs fan yet?

Nah I'm just hard on my team. My prerogative.

[xtremesteven33]

1. Change your screen name.

2. Stop just making up shit.




he is out of shape though.


hmmmmm......

[wijayas]

Tony is having personal problems with some Spurs-mates, or with Pop. Maybe he's suspecting some trades rumors about him. He looks effortless, slow, careless, fat, not in body shape. He looks like knowing something we dont know about.

No I don't think Tony has problems with SPurs team mates or Pop.
Eva's frolicking with her Hollywood stars is Tony's problem!

[Kori Ellis]

Nah I'm just hard on my team. My prerogative.

No you are just a fucking asshole who laughs at "his team" losing. It's pretty clear you aren't a Spurs fan.

[alchemist]

they haven't played really well since that Dallas win, they're probably exhausted mentally...this sluggish play is hopefully a temporary thing.

[Reck]

1. Change your screen name.

You have that option? Because I'd like to change mine if I could.

[word]

To say they played like shit, is an insult to shit.

[Kori Ellis]

No I don't think Tony has problems with SPurs team mates or Pop.
Eva's frolicking with her Hollywood stars is Tony's problem!

Really stop making up total lies. This isn't a gossip board. So take this fucking shit elsewhere.

Tony and Eva have no problems. Tony and his teammates have no problems. Tony and Pop have no problems. You guys make up shit about people's personal lives is going to get you sued some day.

[kace]

well, manu was carelles as usual. tim was owned by a great big as usual these last games. and tony has one of his worst game. horrible offense, being cold on J's and not trying to drive. and he let nelson get hot. he seemed often lost.

i'm asking if tony isn't trying to play differently to involve more players. and i'm definitely sure that we would lost more than we'd win with parker being less aggressive.

[Reck]

No you are just a fucking asshole who laughs at "his team" losing. It's pretty clear you aren't a Spurs fan.

Ok god.

[Kori Ellis]

Ok god.

Good night.

[porscha]

no excuses for TP, he just plain sucked

[duncan228]

Final: Magic 90, Spurs 78 (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/2008/12/gameday-spurs-vs-magic.html)
By Joe Alexander

The Spurs got behind early and never caught up in a 90-78 road loss to the Orlando Magic. The Spurs, who fell to the Hornets on Wednesday in New Orleans, dropped both games of a back-to-back.

Tim Duncan led the Spurs with 19 points and nine rebounds. Roger Mason Jr. and Manu Ginobili had 10 points each.

Orlando's Jameer Nelson had 24 points. Nelson had 21 points in the second half and seemingly scored anytime the Spurs started to get some momentum. Dwight Howard had 14 points and 13 rebounds.

FOURTH QUARTER

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich pulled his main players with three minutes over. It's done.

The Magic went on a 12-2 run to take an 83-67 lead. The Spurs look like they're out of gas.

The Spurs had cut the lead to six points when the Magic's Nelson resonded with baskets on back-to-back possessions. Orlando leads 75-65 with 6:19 left.

Howard went to the bench with 8:21 left after picking up his fifth foul. We'll see if Duncan can take advantage. The Spurs still have a lot of work to do with not a lot of time.

The Spurs made an 8-0 run on back-to-back 3-pointers by Ime Udoka and Mason and a pair of free throws by Duncan. That cut the Magic's lead to 69-60 with 9:08 left.

THIRD QUARTER

Duncan scored the Spurs' last eight points of the third quarter. The Magic's lead is slowly shrinking and they take a 65-52 advantage into the fourth quarter.

With three minutes left in the third quarter, no Spurs starter has scored 10 points yet. The Magic lead 63-46 and the Spurs need a burst soon if they want to get back into this.

Tony Parker completed a three-point play midway through the third quarter. Prior to that, he was 1 of 12 from the field.

Duncan made the first basket of the second half. The Magic took over from there. Nelson had four baskets in a 10-0 Orlando run and the Magic lead 54-31.

SECOND QUARTER

The Spurs shot 28 percent the first half and the Magic rolled to a 44-29 halftime lead.

Kurt Thomas had two baskets as the Spurs finished the half with a 6-0 run - not a huge deal but something to give them a little momentum at the break.

Howard is the first player in the game with 10 points. The Spurs are still in a fog on offense and the Magic lead 43-23.

This is getting ugly fast. The Magic are on an 11-1 run and lead 37-20.

The Spurs missed their first three shots of the second quarter before Mason hit two jump shots. The Magic lead 25-17.

The Spurs opened the second quarter with George Hill, Ginobili and Mason on the floor together - three players who call all play both point guard and shooting guard.

FIRST QUARTER

The Spurs' first quarter offense looked a little like it's fourth quarter offense from the night before. Orlando went on a 16-2 run to take a 19-13 lead at the end of the first quarter. The Spurs missed 15 of their first 20 shots.

The Magic went on a 9-0 run that included Howard's first two baskets of the game. They lead 12-9.

The Spurs are using tough defense to take a 7-3 lead over the Magic at the first timeout.

The Spurs got going on offense when Duncan hit a jumper off the glass on their first possession. Bonner, who struggled on Wednesday, hit a 3-pointer to put the Spurs up 5-0.

The Spurs played tight defense early, with the Magic missing their first five shots. Duncan was playing defense on Dwight Howard. Popovich often keeps Duncan off the other team's best big man early to keep him out of foul trouble.

[crc21209]

No you are just a fucking asshole who laughs at "his team" losing. It's pretty clear you aren't a Spurs fan.

Thank you very much Kori, this person is clearly a jackass and doesnt know anything about the Spurs.

[xtremesteven33]

Really stop making up total lies. This isn't a gossip board. So take this fucking shit elsewhere.

Tony and Eva have no problems. Tony and his teammates have no problems. Tony and Pop have no problems. You guys make up shit about people's personal lives is going to get you sued some day.

:clap


Good job stopping all this rumor crap. Its people like him who give sports forums a bad name.






unless he does have an inside source.:stirpot:

[Ice009]

I don't know what to say. We look awful right now.

I don't know why TP is playing this bad. Is he still injured? Fatigued? His focus hasn't been there since the Dallas game. He's not playing smart at the point. Like Ruff said Mason makes 2 3's then he never saw the ball again for 9 possessions or so.

Hill should be getting more court time if Tony can't bring it for whatever reason. Time to shelve Michael and relegate him to limited minutes. Michael has to learn to contribute in limited minutes. Playing him the whole game isn't going to work out for us now or later.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You can really run much motion when your players are so tired they can barely run.

The Spurs bodies were just worn out today. There's not much more to the game than that.

They didn't run much yesterday, either.

As for the tiredness, sure they looked tired, I commented on that throughout the game, but then why not bench the tired guys (TP and Manu specifically) and go to Mason and Hill? Mason hit 2 3s to get the score back to 9, and then was ignored while TP and Manu made stupid plays for the next 10 possessions. Poor coaching IMHO.

Mason has a right to be very frustrated right now. TP and Manu are getting isos and screwing them up while he stands in the corner wondering WTF he's there for. He should be fed when he's hot.

Anyway, I'm out.

Still happy with my $100 at 21-1 though. :D

[Allanon]

Nothing like a little adversity to get the Spurstalk juices flowing again.

Seems like I've been talking to myself and arguing with Spurs-Addict mostly of late.

[Ice009]

Also, if the Spurs can't get a veteran big I'd give Horry a call now before he's too out of shape. We really do need another big. Either a young athletic big or a veteran big that can defend the paint.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Really stop making up total lies. This isn't a gossip board. So take this fucking shit elsewhere.

Tony and Eva have no problems. Tony and his teammates have no problems. Tony and Pop have no problems. You guys make up shit about people's personal lives is going to get you sued some day.

Absolutely.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Ok god.

Well, she's right. You never say anything insightful or interesting, then laugh when "your" team loses.

Maybe you should take a long, hard look at yourself.

[Spur-Addict]

You have that option? Because I'd like to change mine if I could.

Don't bother asking.

[Capt Bringdown]

Spurs were tired from their half-hearted effort against NO, I guess that's a legitimate excuse. So shall we just pencil in L's for all the remaining back to backs?

Don't other teams in the NBA have to play back to backs? How do the other contenders fair in back to backs?

[xtremesteven33]

Parker looks bad.

Hes supposed to be the young gun of the Big 3 but he looks the most fatigued.
hmmmmm

dont know what to make of it.

[EvaLongoria]

Sued? lol lol You need to know the legal difference between a public figure and a private figure. About public ones, rumor-based sues are hearsay evidence, thus, not admissible on courts. So STFU. Public figures should sustain public fires.

[Kori Ellis]

Spurs were tired from their half-hearted effort against NO, I guess that's a legitimate excuse. So shall we just pencil in L's for all the remaining back to backs?

Don't other teams in the NBA have to play back to backs? How do the other contenders fair in back to backs?

If you have a back to back and make it in a midnight or 1am, that's one thing. But most teams who don't get to bed til 4am on gamedays don't play well.

[Spur-Addict]

Nothing like a little adversity to get the Spurstalk juices flowing again.

Seems like I've been talking to myself and arguing with Spurs-Addict mostly of late.

We "Debate" :lol

[Kori Ellis]

Sued? lol lol You need to know the legal difference between a public figure and a private figure. About public ones, rumor-based sues are hearsay evidence, thus, not admissible on courts. So STFU. Public figures should sustain public fires.

Ask the last publication that got sued for making up/printing lies about Tony and Eva.

[kace]

at least, Game thoughts will be easy for timvp tonight.

Tim: he sucked
Manu: he sucked
Tony: he SUCKED. yes, he DID.

Offense: it sucked
Defense: it sucked

Drive for five.

[porscha]

at least, Game thoughts will be easy for timvp tonight.

Tim: he sucked
Manu: he sucked
Tony: he SUCKED. yes, he DID.

Offense: it sucked
Defense: it sucked

Drive for five.
please add;POP SUCKED TOO

[Reck]

Well, she's right. You never say anything insightful or interesting, then laugh when "your" team loses.

Maybe you should take a long, hard look at yourself.

I dont really care if you think I dont say anything interested. I'm not here to entertain you. I can be all fake and be like awww the Spurs lose..how nice.

Have you ever heard of emotion? yeah try it sometime. I'm just emotional about what I care about.

[Kori Ellis]

please add;POP SUCKED TOO

:tu

[EvaLongoria]

Ask the last publication that got sued for making up/printing lies about Tony and Eva.

One thing is false statements with bad intentions, and other thing is rumors, opinions and hearsay propaganda.

[duncan228]

The game blog sucked too.

[Quiet Strength]

Vaughn sucks

[mexicanjunior]

He will score 20+ in the second half of tonight's game and the Spurs will win a fairly close game.

That is all.

:flag:

He tried at least...

[Kori Ellis]

One thing is false statements with bad intentions, and other thing is rumors, opinions and hearsay propaganda.

Oh, the lies you are making up in this thread are definitely with bad intentions.

Here are some links for you guys to go post because SpursTalk isn't the place for making up lies about Spurs players' wives or personal lives:

http://perezhilton.com/
http://www.tmz.com/

Thanks.

[Josepatches_]

at least, Game thoughts will be easy for timvp tonight.

Tim: he sucked
Manu: he sucked
Tony: he SUCKED. yes, he DID.

Offense: it sucked
Defense: it sucked

Drive for five.

Tim was't great but he didn't suck.
19pts 7-17 FG 5-6 FT
9 reb
3 assist
Playing against Howard (who was only 6-12)in a back to back game.

[Quiet Strength]

Tim was't great but he didn't suck.
19pts 7-17 FG 5-6 FT
9 reb
3 assist
Playing against Howard (who was only 6-12 against TD)in a back to back game.


I agree. Duncan started off pretty bad but he was a big part of the spurs run that brought them back. His defense against howard was okay but his help defense was really bad.

[timvp]

I don't agree with those saying Spurs showed lack of effort. Ginobili was trying hard. Parker's outside shot was off and Nelson was literally playing about ten feet off of him. When he couldn't hit a shot he started hesitating and his game fell apart. Duncan ran the court hard and contested almost all of Howard's looks.

The game came down to the Big Three shooting 5-for-24 in the first half. The Spurs have better scoring role players but if the Big Three lay that big of an egg, the Spurs aren't going to win.

[porscha]

Tim was't great but he didn't suck.
19pts 7-17 FG 5-6 FT
9 reb
3 assist
Playing against Howard (who was only 6-12)in a back to back game.

timmy is sucked by his facial expression!!

[Josepatches_]

I agree. Duncan started off pretty bad but he was a big part of the spurs run that brought them back. His defense against howard was okay but his help defense was really bad.

True.
But it's not easy to do help defense when you have to guard Howard and you are in a back to back game at 32.

[bdictjames]

3-for-17 from the field tonight. 4 assists on 4 turnovers.

And I swear for a point guard who takes a lot of jumpers he has an INEFFICIENT shooting form.

He's not even the best scoring point guard in the NBA anymore; that title belongs to Harris.

WTH. :bang

[timvp]

Quality thread :rolleyes

[bdictjames]

Pop needs to play Duncan with Kurt Thomas more.

[Borosai]

Our newly-found depth is now being forgotten. Now it's just the big three in isolation plays, forcing up bad shots and making bad passes.

I would like to see more Hill, Mason, Bonner, and anyone else who takes a shot in rhythm. And that's just on offense: defensive rotations were crap too.

[Banzai]

So TP had an off night...shit happens...he'll be back to form next game.

[kuato]

TD dont sucks, Manu is still in "safe mode" but Parker still cant create team play and wen TP is not making his shots he is useless.

[Capt Bringdown]

Our newly-found depth is now being forgotten. Now it's just the big three in isolation plays, forcing up bad shots and making bad passes.

I would like to see more Hill, Mason, Bonner, and anyone else who takes a shot in rhythm. And that's just on offense: defensive rotations were crap too.

Excellent observation. It seems to me that we're not using our new assets to the full advantage.

Isn't this what the regular season is for?

[spurs_fan]

udoka,hill,mason,thomas and even vaughn should have gotten more minutes so the others could rest since they were tired and playing bad anyways why not let them get more playing time

[SpursDynasty]

I'm not really concerned about the Hornets loss or tonight's Orlando loss. Those teams just made their shots. We had some pretty good looks at the basket. Sometimes the shots just don't fall. Tonight they didn't. Again, New Orleans and Orlando didn't really do anything impressive. Those two games were more of Spurs losses than Hornets or Magic wins. That was some pretty good shooting by someone named Jameer Nelson tonight though. Never heard of that guy until tonight.

[Josepatches_]

If your PG sucks and the opposite PG shines then it's difficult to win.That's true.PG is the leader of the team.

But we were down by 20 and it wasnt only Tony's fault

[tp2021]

They fought hard. The only play I really didn't like was towards the end when Tim and Tony stayed in the backcourt to complain a call. Manu ended up fouling the layup attempt, but at least he got back on defense.

[crc21209]

Yeah you know its not your night at all 2 nights in a row when 1 night David West hits 2 straight three pointers to steal the game, AND the next night a no-namer in Jameer Nelson who has been nowhere and on the trading block all season goes off on u. Shit happens.

[TDfan2007]

He will score 20+ in the second half of tonight's game and the Spurs will win a fairly close game.

That is all.

:flag:

at least you're optimistic...

[Manufan909]

You can really run much motion when your players are so tired they can barely run.

The Spurs bodies were just worn out today. There's not much more to the game than that.

Wow, it's fucking pathetic all the women posters are realistic and logical, but almost all the guys on here are run around like headless chickens half the time.

The Spurs were def gassed, I'm glad they at least fought back into it. Just wish Hill and Mason could get a constant 8-11 shots a game each, and Pop started Bowen for a change, I'm tired of seeing Fin in for more than 20 minutes, which is all he should get if he can't contribute significantly.

[xellos88330]

The Spurs need to stop shooting themselves in the foot offensively. Both of these games seemed winnable.

[peskypesky]

1. Change your screen name.

2. Stop just making up shit.

I love you, Kori. You crack me up.

[The Truth #6]

After his bad performance the night before, I didn't think Bonner got down on himself or completely folded. He didn't play great but made a few shots. His shot selection was a bit forced at times, but it seemed like he was trying to have a good game.

Not that it mattered in the whole scheme of things for the game tonight, but I think Bonner's overall progress is still in the positive direction. I'll take a little solace in that.

Mason's lack of purpose and Tony's reduced level of defense are not the reasons we lost tonight per se, but are small factors that continue to present themselves over the last few games. I have complete faith Tony can turn it back on.

For Mason, he probably should get more minutes, but in addition to that, while he's on the court he should get a share of the time on the ball as well. Mason shooting a jumper at the top of the key off a pick and roll is perhaps a better shot than Tony doing the same. Hopefully, Pop can see what Mason's strengths are (as well as Bonner's) and maximize them.

Mason seems slightly better when he's shooting off a few dribbles as compared to waiting in the corner. Bruce is good with that but I don't think it's the same for Mason.

Anyway, just random thoughts.

[T Park]

Wow, it's fucking pathetic all the women posters are realistic and logical, but almost all the guys on here are run around like headless chickens half the time.

The Spurs were def gassed, I'm glad they at least fought back into it. Just wish Hill and Mason could get a constant 8-11 shots a game each, and Pop started Bowen for a change, I'm tired of seeing Fin in for more than 20 minutes, which is all he should get if he can't contribute significantly.


Why is it pathetic that the women posters are realistic and logical?

Explain that please kid.

[T Park]

Also, if the Spurs can't get a veteran big I'd give Horry a call now before he's too out of shape. We really do need another big. Either a young athletic big or a veteran big that can defend the paint.

STFU short bus.

[Ice009]

STFU short bus.

Why don't you shut the fuck up?

Are you saying we don't need another big?

Maybe getting Horry back is going too far, but if there is not better option out there why not consider it?

[41times]

Why is everyone freaking out? This was a back2back game with travel and the Spurs got in at like 3 a.m. They are an old team with a shallow bench. What the hell did you think was going to happen against a good young team on their home court?

Realize that when the playoffs roll around your opponent is equally as tired or rested as you are. So it evens things out.

Last night was what i have been referring to for years as a "Scheduled Loss"