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Flo-Rida
01-05-2009, 09:55 PM
I feel like Paul Perice deserves this one.

Udokafan05
01-05-2009, 09:59 PM
shaq

mavs>spurs2
01-05-2009, 09:59 PM
least non athletic would be the most athletic

Xylus
01-05-2009, 09:59 PM
The least nonathletic superstar in the league?

I'd say Kobe, Lebron, or Amare. Not very nonathletic at all.

Rockhound
01-05-2009, 09:59 PM
Tim Duncan.

Hemotivo
01-05-2009, 10:01 PM
ming

bdictjames
01-05-2009, 10:04 PM
Pierce, Duncan, Yao Ming

endrity
01-05-2009, 10:21 PM
People tend to have a hard time understanding how difficult it is for 7+ footers to move well, let alone play basketball. The fact that neither Duncan nor Yao are highrisers doesn't make them less athletic. There is much more to athleticism, and for 7 footers that is especially how cordinated they are. Therefore I would say Duncan and Yao are very well within the athletic side of the equation.

Pierce is a good guess though, he does it mainly on brute strength. Artest is very similar too, if you wanna consider him a superstar.

If anything Dwight might be a little too stiff I think. He can jump and run like a deer, but his hips just aren't very fluid, he also rarely extends on his shots. He looks weird at times to be honest.

Red Hawk #21
01-05-2009, 10:38 PM
Recently all I have seen is Yao getting rejected, I guess he's losing some of the little athleticism he has or maybe he's still feeling some effects from his foot injury

turiaf for president
01-05-2009, 10:56 PM
andre miller

JamStone
01-06-2009, 12:06 AM
Andre Miller is a superstar?

I'd go with Yao Ming as well.

Steve Nash you could argue has great hand-eye coordination, agility, and very good quickness more than natural speed, but he lacks elite level aspects of athleticism like strength and jumping ability.

Carlos Boozer, although it's arguable he's not a superstar.

Michael Redd, if you consider him a superstar. That's questionable though. But, he does get paid like one.

dirk4mvp
01-06-2009, 12:49 AM
Yao Ming. He's not very strong for his size, definitely isn't fast, his vertical isn't high at all, and he's sucking wind about halfway through the 1st.

sook
01-06-2009, 12:50 AM
Yao Ming. He's not very strong for his size, definitely isn't fast, his vertical isn't high at all, and he's sucking wind about halfway through the 1st.

+1

JamStone
01-06-2009, 01:08 AM
Yao Ming. He's not very strong for his size, definitely isn't fast, his vertical isn't high at all, and he's sucking wind about halfway through the 1st.

Agreed. But all those considered, pretty impressive he's still a "superstar" caliber player in the league. That how good he is at using his height and size advantage and how good his skill level is to compensate for all those athletic shortcomings.

dirk4mvp
01-06-2009, 01:15 AM
Agreed. But all those considered, pretty impressive he's still a "superstar" caliber player in the league. That how good he is at using his height and size advantage and how good his skill level is to compensate for all those athletic shortcomings.


No doubt he's a very skilled player and his fundamentals are very sound, but has to be, or else he'd be a Chinese Shawn Bradley.

hoopdreams11
01-06-2009, 01:26 AM
michael Redd

Biggems
01-06-2009, 01:30 AM
if you actually mean the least athletic player in the league......JJ Redick comes to mind.

spursfan09
01-06-2009, 08:21 AM
Tim Duncan's bank shot says "whats up?"

z0sa
01-06-2009, 12:33 PM
Easily Tim Duncan

xtremesteven33
01-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Michael Redd......Superstar or Allstar?

DaDakota
01-06-2009, 12:56 PM
Ming, then Duncan.

DD

nkdlunch
01-06-2009, 01:15 PM
"superstar" is the key word.

gotta be TD. no question

sonic21
01-06-2009, 04:01 PM
superstar: Kobe, Lebron, Duncan

so Duncan

Kobe™
01-06-2009, 04:07 PM
The least nonathletic superstar in the league?

I'd say Kobe, Lebron, or Amare. Not very nonathletic at all.

Yep
Lebron being frontrunner.
Add in Wade too.

Dex
01-06-2009, 05:22 PM
The first three names that come to mind are Duncan, Shaq, and Yao.

Calling Duncan unathletic is probably unfair because we all know how hard he works in the gym and that for what his age and body will allow, Tim is in exceptional shape. But his game has never been based on athleticism, and whatever flashes he used to show of it seemed to disappear after his 2002 knee surgery. Even Tim himself has joked that he can barely jump over a deck of cards.

Yao definitely has very little athleticism to his game. But he has an amazing array of flips and hooks that are deadly when put up from 10 ft high, and he's gotten pretty consistent with that short range jumper. Still, the guy is so big that sometimes it looks like a struggle just for him to get up and down the court.

Shaq has always battled weight problems, but it's that same size that makes him a behemoth in the post and gives him his advantage over most defenders. One has to wonder if that pinkie toe is built to carry all that weight, though, because Shaq has been plagued with foot and ankle injuries through his career.

As far as guards are concerned, my current vote would have to be Jason Kidd. What quickness this guy used to have left about 4 years ago, and every year he looks like an older man on the court, but he's still one of the most amazing points in the game.

John Stockton would have some things to say about this debate, and Matt Bonner also looks like he should be handing out tickets at Santikos or something.

Galileo
01-06-2009, 07:09 PM
Tim Duncan was a # 1 overall draft pick. Non-athletic people don't get picked # 1.

Not only that, but if you put all the number one picks since 1990 into the same draft, Duncan would have been drafted only behind Shaq.

Going back further, other # 1's who might have gone ahead of Duncan are DRob, Akeem (maybe), maybe Ewing, Sampson, maybe Magic (but probably not), maybe Walton, Lew Alcindor, maybe Elvin Hayes (but probably not), and that's it. If you throw in Wilt, these are basically the most athletic people in NBA history

Galileo
01-06-2009, 07:42 PM
Another thing about this "non-athletic" talk. It has been stated here ad inifitum that so-called non-athletic players last longer because they don't depend as much on athletic ability. This is total horshit. Everybody loses athletic ability as they age, but counter it with experience and learning new skills. Non-athletic players, when they get old, can't cut it in the NBA. Super athletic players, ion the other hand, fall back into the pack in regards to their athletic ability, but still stand out as they are older and more experienced with the the same athletic ability as younger players.

Duncan is a very athletic player. As his has slowed down slightly, he contunies to learn new skills, so his overall numbers per 48 minutes are still better than his rookie year and still about equal to his peak.

This is why athletic marvels who suffered through injures can still shine as old players when they get healthy, examples being Bernard King and Dominique Wilkins. Another athletic marvel, Jabber, was still leading the Lakers in scoring in his 17th season, still being voted 1st team All-NBA, and won the finals MVP in his 16th season. And this is a player who played all four years of college. Can anyone here imagine Lebron James being first tean all-NBA in 2024? Lebron final's MVP in 2023? Kobe 1st team all-NBA in 2017? Final's MVP in 2016? That's what Jabber did.

IronMexican
01-06-2009, 07:45 PM
Jabbar*