Sanjay Gupta, Surgeon General

[doobs]

I mean, really?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2009/01/06/obama_wants_journalist_for_sur.html?hpid=topnews (http://www.cnn.com/)

[doobs]

Apparently Dr. Phil was unavailable.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

i guess dr. ruth is too old.

[Winehole23]

I mean, really?Well, why not?

[101A]

If Gupta's Surgeon General, shouldn't Keiffer Sutherland get the CIA job?

[balli]

If Gupta's Surgeon General, shouldn't Keiffer Sutherland get the CIA job?

I hate to break it to you but 24 is a fictional TV show and Kiefer Sutherland is an actor.

[Winehole23]

While Dr. Gupta is an actual neurosurgeon.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, what are your actual objections to the appointment of Dr. Gupta?

[Winehole23]

Yes, what are your actual objections to the appointment of Dr. Gupta?None whatsoever. I merely asked doobs for his.

[ChumpDumper]

None whatsoever. I merely asked doobs for his.I'm asking the wannabe comedians.

[doobs]

Oh jeez. Do I really need to say why this is laughable?

Yes, he's a doctor, but he's mostly just a television personality. Has he actually done anything to establish himself within the medical community as an expert on something? What does he know about public health issues? Has he ever had a leadership position? Be honest, now: is Sanjay Gupta as Surgeon General any less absurd than Dr. Drew as Surgeon General?

Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, Obama is being cynical and making a CNN man a part of his administration? I mean, he's so cute and funny! Everyone loves Sanjay Gupta, and CNN loves Obama!

[balli]

Oh jeez. Do I really need to say why this is laughable?

Yes, he's a doctor, but he's mostly just a television personality. Has he actually done anything to establish himself within the medical community as an expert on something? What does he know about public health issues? Has he ever had a leadership position

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about


An assistant professor of neurosurgery at Emory University School of Medicine and associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta.

Gupta specializes in all facets of neurosurgical care with a strong interest in complicated spine, trauma and 3-D image guided operations. He has recently had articles published in the Journal of Neurosurgery and Neurosurgical Focus on percutaneous pedicle screw placement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Gupta

[Winehole23]

Wasn't he also a medical advisor to HRC at some point?

[doobs]

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Gupta

Those are pretty pedestrian qualifications. I do know what the fuck I'm talking about.

[ChumpDumper]

Those are pretty pedestrian qualifications. I do know what the fuck I'm talking about.Dr. doobs?

[balli]

Those are pretty pedestrian qualifications.

Really, cause i have a hard time believing you could get into Emory Med School if you tried for the rest of your pathetic life.

[Winehole23]

Those are pretty pedestrian qualifications. I do know what the fuck I'm talking about.Perhaps it isn't as plain to the rest of us.

Could you clarify what you mean?

[doobs]

Dr. doobs?

No, I'm a lawyer. But my father has been in academic medicine for over thirty years, and he has held an important leadership position in the federal government (NIH - but I won't tell you more).

"An assistant professor of neurosurgery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurosurgery) at Emory University School of Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emory_University_School_of_Medicine) and associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Grady Memorial Hospital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grady_Memorial_Hospital) in Atlanta."

My father achieved the analogous positions in his field in his late twenties and early thirties. Seriously - weak sauce.

[balli]

So basically you're against this appointment because you're jealous and feel like it should have gone to your longer-tenured dad instead? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Gupta also achieved those positions in his twenties and thirties, while having tremendous success in broadcasting and writing.

Seriously, quite strong sauce.

[Winehole23]

He sounds like an impressive man.

So we should throw Dr. Gupta back because he doesn't measure up to your dad?


Really?

[Shastafarian]

No, I'm a lawyer. But my father has been in academic medicine for over thirty years, and he has held an important leadership position in the federal government (NIH - but I won't tell you more).

"An assistant professor of neurosurgery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurosurgery) at Emory University School of Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emory_University_School_of_Medicine) and associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Grady Memorial Hospital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grady_Memorial_Hospital) in Atlanta."

My father achieved the analogous positions in his field in his late twenties and early thirties. Seriously - weak sauce.
Your dad was Associate Chief of ________ in his 30's? I find that extremely hard to believe. An assistant professor in medicine in his 30's? Sure, that's possible.

[Heath Ledger]

Damn how did Sanjaya get a degree to become a doctor so fast? It seems like 2 years ago he was only 16 on American Idol. Hopefully he got his long overdue hair cut.

[doobs]

Gupta also achieved those positions in his twenties and thirties, while having tremendous success in broadcasting and writing.

Quite strong sauce.

But he never progressed--my point is citing his experience as an assistant professor is pretty much meaningless. An assistant professor is the first thing you do in academic medicine. It's the lowest thing you can do in academic medicine. I'll return to me previous question: has he done anything to establish himself in the medical community? Another one: what does he know about public health issues, besides telling me on CNN to eat my vegetables and to avoid sitting on my ass all day?

Why not Dr. Drew?



In his role as a medical doctor, Pinsky is Assistant Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the Keck School of Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keck_School_of_Medicine_of_USC) at USC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California), Medical Director for the Department of Chemical Dependency Services at Las Encinas Hospital (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Las_Encinas_Hospital&action=edit&redlink=1) in Pasadena, California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasadena,_California), staff member at Huntington Memorial Hospital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntington_Memorial_Hospital), and a private practitioner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_practitioner).

BA Amherst College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amherst_College)
MD University of Southern California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California), Keck School of Medicine of USC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keck_School_of_Medicine_of_USC)
Residency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residency_%28medicine%29) Internal Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Medicine), Huntington Memorial Hospital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntington_Memorial_Hospital)
Board Certified, American Board of Internal Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Board_of_Internal_Medicine)
Board Certified, American Society of Addiction Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Society_of_Addiction_Medicine)
Member of American College of Physicians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Physicians)

And, no, I don't think my dad should be Surgeon General. He would make less money, and he's looking forward to retirement. I only mentioned him because someone asked me if I was a doctor, or what I knew about doctors' credentials.

The point is, this is a joke. Sanjay Gupta is a celebrity. I'm asking for someone to please show me how he is a great doctor. Has he distinguished himself?

[SnakeBoy]

Your dad was Associate Chief of ________ in his 30's? I find that extremely hard to believe. An assistant professor in medicine in his 30's? Sure, that's possible.

You just have to kiss the right asses and drink the right wines.

[balli]

Your dad was Associate Chief of ________ in his 30's?
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3859/doctordoobskj8.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

But he never progressedHe's not out of his thirties yet -- and as noted, he's got a couple of other jobs.


The point is, this is a joke. Sanjay Gupta is a celebrity. I'm asking for someone to please show me how he is a great doctor. Has he distinguished himself?I'm asking you to show me how he is a bad doctor.

Seriously, do you think the Surgeon General treats patients?

[doobs]

He's not out of his thirties yet -- and as noted, he's got a couple of other jobs.

I'm asking you to show me how he is a bad doctor.

Seriously, do you think the Surgeon General treats patients?

Like I said, pretty pedestrian qualifications, especially for a man who is 39 years old. This is a celebrity pick.

Do you really think he's the most qualified candidate? Isn't that what matters? And why not Dr. Drew? I posted his qualifications, you know.

[Shastafarian]

Like I said, pretty pedestrian qualifications, especially for a man who is 39 years old. This is a celebrity pick.

Do you really think he's the most qualified candidate? Isn't that what matters? And why not Dr. Drew? I posted his qualifications, you know.

Associate Chief before 40 is pretty substantial.

[doobs]

Associate Chief before 40 is pretty substantial.

No, it really isn't.

[Winehole23]

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/about/duties/index.html

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/about/duties/index.htmlGupta looks quite qualified to fulfill those duties, even uniquely so for some of them.

Good pick :tu

[SnakeBoy]

If he can tell people not to smoke, get off your fat ass and exercise, and wear a rubber then he is qualified. Who gives a shit about the surgeon general.

[ChumpDumper]

If he can tell people not to smoke, get off your fat ass and exercise, and wear a rubber then he is qualified. Who gives a shit about the surgeon general.Exactly -- and folks these days are more likely to listen to a well-known public figure. Gupta is completely qualified.

[SnakeBoy]

Holy Shit! I agree with ChumpDumper. Yellowstone really is going to blow :wow

[doobs]

If he can tell people not to smoke, get off your fat ass and exercise, and wear a rubber then he is qualified. Who gives a shit about the surgeon general.


Exactly -- and folks these days are more likely to listen to a well-known public figure. Gupta is completely qualified.

If that's the case, then why do we even have a Surgeon General? I mean, Sanjay Gupta is already a well-known public figure, and he makes a ton of money because people watch him and listen to him. Doesn't he already tell us not to smoke, get off our asses, and wear rubbers? Why would he accept a paycut to do precisely the same thing? Why not save some federal money and abolish the Office of the Surgeon General? After all, we already have Sanjay Gupta, Dr. Drew, Dr. Oz, Deepak Chopra, Dr. Dre, Dr. J, Dr. Phil, and Andrew Weil. Just a question.

Maybe the Surgeon General has responsibilities greater than that of a talking head on CNN. Maybe the Surgeon General needs to be a leader and an effective administrator. Maybe the Surgeon General actually needs to know something about public health besides the glaringly obvious.

Not everyone can be a celebrity like Sanjay Gupta or Dr. Drew, so perhaps we should first consider hard-working doctors who have actually distinguished themselves in their fields.

[ChumpDumper]

If that's the case, then why do we even have a Surgeon General? I mean, Sanjay Gupta is already a well-known public figure, and he makes a ton of money because people watch him and listen to him. Doesn't he already tell us not to smoke, get off our asses, and wear rubbers? Why would he accept a paycut to do precisely the same thing? Just a question.Go back and look at the duties.


Maybe the Surgeon General has responsibilities greater than that of a talking head on CNN. Maybe the Surgeon General needs to be a leader and an effective administrator. Maybe the Surgeon General actually needs to know something about public health besides the glaringly obvious.Go back and look at the duties.


Not everyone can be a celebrity like Sanjay Gupta or Dr. Drew, so perhaps we should first consider hard-working doctors who have actually distinguished themselves in their fields.Go back and look at the duties.

You're just butthurt that you aren't a celebrity.

[lefty]

I loved how Michael Moore destroyed Gupta live on CNN :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

I loved how Michael Moore destroyed Gupta live on CNN :lmao


Well he did point out to Moore the wait times for cardiac catherization in socialized systems and told Moore he might need one someday. So I'd count that as a polite way of saying get off your fat ass and exercise. He's qualified.

[lefty]

Well he did point out to Moore the wait times for cardiac catherization in socialized systems and told Moore he might need one someday. So I'd count that as a polite way of saying get off your fat ass and exercise. He's qualified.

It doesn't take a surgeon to tell a fat guy to exercise and eat well

[Shastafarian]

No, it really isn't.

Yes, it really is.

[E20]

I wanna be a Neurosurgeon. My major is Neurobiology. HOpefully I can make it.

[nkdlunch]

LMAO at this thread.

[Heath Ledger]

Him picking Sanjaya is obviously because he is a huge American Idol fan.

[MannyIsGod]

Him picking Sanjaya is obviously because he is a huge American Idol fan.

It wasn't funny the first time so you try it again? Fail.

Anyway - I don't now shit about Sanjay, I don't know shit about Surgeon General, but I do know that Doobs cracks me up because for someone who is basically a highly paid debater he gets destroyed on this forum quite often.

Sanjay is obviously lazy if thats ALL he's done so far. Just like Obama. Right, Doobs?

[Clandestino]

It wasn't funny the first time so you try it again? Fail.

Anyway - I don't now shit about Sanjay, I don't know shit about Surgeon General, but I do know that Doobs cracks me up because for someone who is basically a highly paid debater he gets destroyed on this forum quite often.

Sanjay is obviously lazy if thats ALL he's done so far. Just like Obama. Right, Doobs?

Now this shit is funny!

[Winehole23]

The Surgeon General in addition being the nation's chief public health educator does lead a large public health bureaucracy (http://www.hhs.gov/ophs/). While Dr. Gupta, as doobs pointed out, may be lacking in institutional or academic experience, his cv is thoroughly respectable and he is obviously well qualified to fill a public affairs capacity.

Isn't he?

[Shastafarian]

Again, being Associate Chief of Neurosurgery before the age of 40 is a fairly distinguished honor. Most people are still in their Neurosurgery Residency in their early-mid 30's.

[DarkReign]

The Surgeon General is probably the most worthless, least influential appointment in government.

Its one step up in responsibility than being an Ambassador.

And we all know what the Blagololoovichh wanted in return for Obama's seat because it was such a cake job...

[DarrinS]

This is the most important job in govt and therefore can't be left to just any dope.

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[Heath Ledger]

actually it was pretty funny if you could only see all of the pm's ive got telling me how funny that comment was.

[Supergirl]

In case anyone cares - Why he was chose:
Because he is not only a qualified, experienced doctor, but a TV-friendly personality who is good at explaining medical issues to the American People. As Obama is looking to try and make a major change to our broken health care system, this will be vitally important to have. The Surgeon General is hired to be the face of the medical system in a president's government, and to advise the American people on medical issues the president decided are important.

That's why he was chosen. IMHO, it was a very good selection.

Also, I'm glad Atul Gawande (www.gawande.com) wasn't chosen, because my partner is currently working with him and we don't want him to go off to Washington D.C.

[Heath Ledger]

Not to mention Sanjaya has some really cool hair and millions of teenage girls who worship him and his singing ability.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/sanjaya.jpg

[Taco]

If Gupta's Surgeon General, shouldn't Keiffer Sutherland get the CIA job?

:lol

I think Gupta would be OK :tu

[Oh, Gee!!]

Not to mention Sanjaya has some really cool hair and millions of teenage girls who worship him and his singing ability.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/sanjaya.jpg

strike 3

[RandomGuy]

Y'all do know that the Surgeon general is mostly a figurehead position with little ability to affect policy, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgeon_General_of_the_United_States

Sheesh.

The fact that Gupta is semi-famous is actually a bonus.

This particular position requires about as much administrative skill as managing a very small business.

Much ado about nothing. :rolleyes