View Full Version : Game Winning shots
papashango
02-10-2009, 05:58 PM
http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
Noticed a couple of Spurs made the list. Maybe i'm missing some guys but I did see Finley, Ginobilli and Duncan.
Kori Ellis
02-10-2009, 06:03 PM
Tony is on the list too with 6.
Thompson
02-10-2009, 06:04 PM
List must have come out before the Celtics game, Mason is 4 of 4, not 3 of 3.
Clippers, Suns, Lakers, Celtics.
Obstructed_View
02-10-2009, 06:04 PM
Kobe and Chauncey Billups have terrible FG% in those situations. I wonder how either of them developed a reputation for being clutch?
tp2021
02-10-2009, 06:06 PM
With Kobe, thats always his shot to take. His relative numbers aren't good, but the absolute ones are what gets the fans' attention.
gaKNOW!blee
02-10-2009, 06:06 PM
Not surprising to see LBJ at the top.
dirk4mvp
02-10-2009, 06:09 PM
Dirk is money.
papashango
02-10-2009, 06:09 PM
Tony is on the list too with 6.
I actually looked for Parker and couldn't find him for some reason. Must've passed him up. Pretty good feat to have so many guys you can rely on to take the big shot of a game for you and actually hit them at a pretty good rate.
timvp
02-10-2009, 06:11 PM
Manu's 6-for-21 field goal shooting isn't too surprising considering he's coming back from surgery ... but his 4-for-7 at the line is surprising because I don't remember him missing three clutch free throws.
Interesting stats, since the 03-04 season, RS and PO.
Tim had 9, Tony and Manu 6.
what is interesting is the overall very low FG % of these shots (29.8 %), surely because defense is very focused and some of those shots can be very quick shot with very little time left in the clock.
Tim: 39.1 % , Tony: 37,5 % , Manu: 28.6 %
someone viewed as a winner like Billups shoot at only 16.2 % and someone said as a choker on this board, Turkoglu shoots at 50 %. Deceptive ?
Tim has made 6 of 7 FT, manu only 4 of 7.
Tony had 4 assists and 0 TO, Tim 4 assists and 1 TO, Manu 3 assists and 4 TO.
Mason is 3-3 this year !!
Manu's 6-for-21 field goal shooting isn't too surprising considering he's coming back from surgery ... but his 4-for-7 at the line is surprising because I don't remember him missing three clutch free throws.
it's for 5 years of RS and PO
and manu low % in clutch situation is a constant aspect of his game. Look at the last years of PO.
timvp
02-10-2009, 06:17 PM
it's for 5 years of RS and POGood point. :reading
Must have been those free throws against the Suns and Cavs in the playoffs . . .
sonic21
02-10-2009, 06:19 PM
interesting, i always thought manu was by far the clutchest on the spurs, it's really close.
interesting, i always thought manu was by far the clutchest on the spurs, it's really close.
look at the clutch stats (5 last minutes of a close game) from 82games.com, especially in PO, and you'll be even more surprised.
Hemotivo
02-10-2009, 06:32 PM
look at the clutch stats (5 last minutes of a close game) from 82games.com, especially in PO, and you'll be even more surprised.
watch those games and you'll be really surprised.
watch those games and you'll be really surprised.
which means ?
HarlemHeat37
02-10-2009, 06:38 PM
I've always assumed Timmy was our clutch guy(other than FTs, of course)..
as for guys like Kobe, Carter, and Manu..other swingmen that have good Js..they're obviously much more likely to rely on their J than a guy like Lebron, since they are more comfortable taking a long shot..so it affects their %'s..
it's me
02-10-2009, 06:40 PM
watch those games and you'll be really surprised.
Interesting they label a player as “clutch” only taking scoring into account… what about rebound, steels, etc, bball is more than just scoring.
Interesting they label a player as “clutch” only taking scoring into account… what about rebound, steels, etc, bball is more than just scoring.
rebounds, steals, TO, assists can be measured. They are in this stat linked and also in the clutch stats.
Defense and good execution of a play (screen, non-assist pass ...) aren't measurable though, that's for sure.
Brazil
02-10-2009, 06:53 PM
Interesting they label a player as “clutch” only taking scoring into account… what about rebound, steels, etc, bball is more than just scoring.
Tony had 4 assists and 0 TO, Tim 4 assists and 1 TO, Manu 3 assists and 4 TO.
These stats don't surprise me, both Tony and Tim are great in the clutch at actually making the shots. not just drawing fouls. Manu is one of the Top 10ish 4th quarter players in the league, but as a last possession player, I don't think he is as good as Tony or Tim. I've always thought the same about Kobe. Incredible 4th quarter player all the way down to the last shot which he usually bricks.
Side note: Manu is one of the clutchest rebounders I've ever seen out of a guard. Very underrated part of his game and when I'm watching a close game, I always expect Manu to come up with tough rebounds down the stretch, and he almost always does.
m33p0
02-10-2009, 10:54 PM
Side note: Manu is one of the clutchest rebounders I've ever seen out of a guard. Very underrated part of his game and when I'm watching a close game, I always expect Manu to come up with tough rebounds down the stretch, and he almost always does.
tough rebounds, tough defensive plays, gutsy passes... and a couple of boneheaded plays. he does everything big including mistakes. but he is there when the game is on the line. :lol
ducks
02-10-2009, 11:01 PM
Tony is on the list too with 6.
yes but he is not clutch though:downspin:
SouthTexasRancher
02-10-2009, 11:21 PM
Dirk is money.
I can't remember....how many NBA Championship Rings/Trophies does Dirk have???
Oh yeah, now I remember...000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000
I'll take Timmy every day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!!
Dirk is a choker!
cabass88
02-11-2009, 01:26 AM
lol weres big shot bob!
baseline bum
02-11-2009, 01:27 AM
Finley 4/9 (44.4%)
These stats don't surprise me, both Tony and Tim are great in the clutch at actually making the shots. not just drawing fouls. Manu is one of the Top 10ish 4th quarter players in the league, but as a last possession player, I don't think he is as good as Tony or Tim. I've always thought the same about Kobe. Incredible 4th quarter player all the way down to the last shot which he usually bricks.
Side note: Manu is one of the clutchest rebounders I've ever seen out of a guard. Very underrated part of his game and when I'm watching a close game, I always expect Manu to come up with tough rebounds down the stretch, and he almost always does.
very true about the rebounds. manu always seems to find a way to get a rebound when it counts the most.
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