Devean George: Defensive Specialist

[monosylab1k]

What a faggot. There is nobody that has ever walked on this planet that I detest more than Devean "Dick Breath" George. I'd rather open mouth kiss the corpse of Saddam Hussein than have to spend 1 second in the presence of the biggest piece of shit to ever wear a Mavs uni (and yes, I do remember Loren Meyer).

[Warlord23]

4th quarter: Paul Pierce 18, Mavericks 17

[baseline bum]

I honestly do not understand how he gets any playing time. I don't think I've ever seen him do anything positive since his performance in game 5 of the 04 Spurs-Lakers series.

[Brickhouse]

defensive specialist= picking quick stupid fouls.

[ElNono]

What a faggot. There is nobody that has ever walked on this planet that I detest more than Devean "Dick Breath" George. I'd rather open mouth kiss the corpse of Saddam Hussein than have to spend 1 second in the presence of the biggest piece of shit to ever wear a Mavs uni (and yes, I do remember Loren Meyer).

Bird Rights BITCH!

[monosylab1k]

defensive specialist= picking quick stupid fouls.

And letting Paul Pierce curbstomp you at every available opportunity.

[IronMexican]

That fucker gave me the cold shoulder at the mall once.

[HarlemHeat37]

while George sucks, what did you want him to do? Pierce is one of the best clutch players in the NBA, he made some tough shots too..

[Brickhouse]

Dick Breath has a championship pedigree.

[Warlord23]

Are the Mav fans trying to pin this loss on George? You were leading by 15 with all the momentum. Then the Celtics pop you in the mouth and pick up their physicality, and you fold like a cheap tent. The Mavs are soft and that's what cost them this game.

[monosylab1k]

while George sucks, what did you want him to do?

Waiting till the shot is already off before finally reacting and getting a hand in his face isn't what I had in mind.

[monosylab1k]

Are the Mav fans trying to pin this loss on George? You were leading by 15 with all the momentum. Then the Celtics pop you in the mouth and pick up their physicality, and you fold like a cheap tent. The Mavs are soft and that's what cost them this game.

I'd normally say that, but tonight had nothing to do with softness. KG tried to bully Dirk and Dirk stood up to him and played great. The team played well, and a few open shots didn't go down.

If Jason Terry plays, the Mavs win this one easy. Paul Pierce didn't heat up until Devean George was put on him.

[Ghazi]

IMO he did force Pierce into a few tough shots.

That slap fall was stupid.

Quite frankly though, is there anyone better on our roster? You could say Green, but he's a defensive liability... although we could've used offense in the 4th.

[monosylab1k]

IMO he did force Pierce into a few tough shots.

Are you fucking kidding me? Uncontested jumpers aren't tough shots.

[Ghazi]

Yeah, people need to shut the fuck up. This wasn't a choke, this wasn't softness, it was bad execution due to offensively limited players.

It's not a choke when you lose to the BETTER team. 15 point lead can EASILY be eaten up in 18 minutes, especially with our best 4th Q player out.

Allow me to reiterate, it was Dirk 1 v 5 against the best defense in the league. You can see how little pressure Kidd and Damp put on the defenses, it makes things congested and difficult.

Our Mavs fought hard tonight, it just wasn't enough.

We need to make a move, nothing tonight made me think any differently about the Mavs. Win or lose, I still know our strengths and flaws. So I can't be that upset.

But, we need to make a fucking move.

[monosylab1k]

Shockingly enough, Josh Howard's foul trouble killed us. If J-Ho was on Pierce most of the 4th quarter, those shots wouldn't have gone in for him.

[Ghazi]

Are you fucking kidding me? Uncontested jumpers aren't tough shots.

I dunno, I thought those shots by pierce down the stretch were somewhat difficult, decent defense by George just a better shot.

But again, who ELSE would guard Pierce? Kidd wasn't having much luck either. Simply put, we dont have a "Pierce stopper" on our roster lol, if such a thing exists.

[Ghazi]

The little things annoyed me tonight. Josh blew a layup, we didn't execute the fast break twice (could've been up 17, instead Dirk tries to save back other way for KG dunk)... a lot of in and outs.

Very irking. Dirk missed 3 FT's as well, but no complaints about our beloved Dirk tonight.

But this game is over and done with, our beloved Mavs need to move on, and make a damn trade.

[monosylab1k]

But again, who ELSE would guard Pierce? Kidd wasn't having much luck either. Simply put, we dont have a "Pierce stopper" on our roster lol, if such a thing exists.

I thought Josh Howard did a great job. You can't shut down Pierce completely, but he played him very well.

[MarHill]

I'd normally say that, but tonight had nothing to do with softness. KG tried to bully Dirk and Dirk stood up to him and played great. The team played well, and a few open shots didn't go down.

If Jason Terry plays, the Mavs win this one easy. Paul Pierce didn't heat up until Devean George was put on him.


Not true!

They had Jason Kidd and JJ Barea on Pierce in the high iso play before George.

Pierce was already warmed up when George tried to guard him.

[Warlord23]

I'd normally say that, but tonight had nothing to do with softness. KG tried to bully Dirk and Dirk stood up to him and played great. The team played well, and a few open shots didn't go down.

If Jason Terry plays, the Mavs win this one easy. Paul Pierce didn't heat up until Devean George was put on him.

I wasn't calling Dirk out. Dirk actually showed why he's as good or better than KG (one of the recurring arguments on this board). The rest of the Mavs stood around nutless and bricking jumpers when Thibodeau decided to get the ball out of Dirk's hands.

Also, the reason Pierce heated up is the stupid switches on the pick-n-roll that gave him mismatches at the top of the key. It isn't hard to heat up with Kidd or the Puerto Rican midget guarding you. George actually avoided switching and tried to stay with Pierce ... of course it was too late then as Pierce had hit his groove already.

[monosylab1k]

Not true!

They had Jason Kidd and JJ Barea on Pierce in the high iso play before George.

Pierce was already warmed up when George tried to guard him.

Pierce hit one shot on JJ. Barea actually played pretty decent defense on him every time he got switched.

[Ghazi]

I thought Josh Howard did a great job. You can't shut down Pierce completely, but he played him very well.


Yeah, unfortunate that J-Ho fouled out.

J-Ho had a few nice moments tonight, btu a few vexing moments as well.

Ugh, I would sleep much easier tonight if our beloved Mavs won. Its just 1 game, and I didn't expect a win except when we were up 15, but ugh it hurts. IT HUTS :(

[jermaine]

What up with Green? Do he even suit up anymore?

[stretch]

personally i thought george actually defended the shots quite well. they were just bizzare shots that pierce was lucky to have go in, while it seemed like at least 7 or 8 of the mavericks shots in the 4th kept rimming in and out. luck simply was not on the mavericks side tonight. very tough loss to swallow.

[MarHill]

personally i thought george actually defended the shots quite well. they were just bizzare shots that pierce was lucky to have go in, while it seemed like at least 7 or 8 of the mavericks shots in the 4th kept rimming in and out. luck simply was not on the mavericks side tonight. very tough loss to swallow.

I disagree.

I've watched a few Celts games and that high iso is a set play for Pierce and he has made those shots quite regularly.

[MarHill]

Pierce hit one shot on JJ. Barea actually played pretty decent defense on him every time he got switched.

Yeah..if that was the case then the Mavs should have kept Barea on him.

I know Kidd was guarding him most of the time though.

[stretch]

I disagree.

I've watched a few Celts games and that high iso is a set play for Pierce and he has made those shots quite regularly.

ive seen him miss those shots quite often too. some nights they fall, other nights they dont. more often than not, you should expect those to not be very high percentage shots.

[Ghazi]

We need one of "those guys" that Boston has , LA has, Cleveland has, basically all of the elite teams.

Boston was just shooting FT's in hte 4th, we weren't because we dont HAVE anyone who can have FT parades like that. Dirk at times, but Im referring to a wing player.

Is such a player out there for our beloved Mavs? Would we pull the trigger anyway?

Again, part of the reason the offense was so disjointed was the JET was out. He has been our best 4th quarter player all year. Him and Dirk share "closing duties".

But, yeah... could use a guy that gets FT parades..

[MarHill]

We need one of "those guys" that Boston has , LA has, Cleveland has, basically all of the elite teams.

Boston was just shooting FT's in hte 4th, we weren't because we dont HAVE anyone who can have FT parades like that. Dirk at times, but Im referring to a wing player.

Is such a player out there for our beloved Mavs? Would we pull the trigger anyway?

Again, part of the reason the offense was so disjointed was the JET was out. He has been our best 4th quarter player all year. Him and Dirk share "closing duties".

But, yeah... could use a guy that gets FT parades..

Vince Carter could be that player, Ghazi!

Or Corey Maggette?

[Ghazi]

V C and Mags dont come off as "winners" to me, although neither does J-Ho. but swapping J-Ho for one or the other is lateral,plus they have horrible contracts.

[MarHill]

V C and Mags dont come off as "winners" to me, although neither does J-Ho. but swapping J-Ho for one or the other is lateral,plus they have horrible contracts.

Yeah..you're probably right!

But..both of them can get to the FT line though.

Especially Maggette!

[monosylab1k]

Baron Davis wouldn't have helped us tonight :rolleyes

[Ghazi]

Baron Davis wouldn't have helped us tonight :rolleyes

Would've been less shots for Dirk and 5-20 shooting :D

I kid, I kid.

I KID!

I just hope we doooo somethiiing.

[TDMVPDPOY]

did i just read defensive specialist = george?


wait.....



WTF

[monosylab1k]

Would've been less shots for Dirk and 5-20 shooting :D

I kid, I kid.

I KID!

I just hope we doooo somethiiing.

Less everything for Rondo as well, Baron Davis would curbstomp him like he was Devin Harris.

[Ghazi]

so I guess the C's attempted 20 4th Q FT's tonight.

Last sesaon they attempted like 18 4th Q Ft's in our building.

That's 38 in 2 quarters, which nets for 76 a game.

IM PULLIN OUT THE REF EXCUSE!

Just kidding, but yeah... we need a wing who can get to da line.

[Rogue]

josh howard wasted too many shots, jason played so long that he also shooted bad.

[endrity]

I don't understand why we keep throwing George in there. I swear to God, Green is a better player right now. Hustles, makes plays on offense and defense, and commits his fair share of mistakes. But George gives you absolutely nothing.

[Ghazi]

I mentioned this earlier, btu is anyone else annoyed that the announcers tried to credit KG's technical for the team coming back?

What the fuck did KG do in the 2nd half? He had a few nice dunks on collapsed defense, but that's about it.

Celtics look great even without KG. They can eat up leads or expand leads while he's sitting, and are 11-2 since the big 3 trades in games he's missed.

[endrity]

Actually the Celts did close most of the gap WITHOUT KG.

But it's all about storylines in this league. Right now, KG's intensity and leadership are the "IT" story along with "Kobe v. Lebron", though you rarely heard that when he was surrounded by trash in Minny. Allen has had a much better season than Pierce, yet Pierce was the first choice for All Star anyway.

It's stupid, and it's not informative. But when most of the people that are watching the games are not NBA junkies like us, who sit around well into the night chatting in NBA forums, that is what you get.

[MI21]

I mentioned this earlier, btu is anyone else annoyed that the announcers tried to credit KG's technical for the team coming back?

What the fuck did KG do in the 2nd half? He had a few nice dunks on collapsed defense, but that's about it.

Celtics look great even without KG. They can eat up leads or expand leads while he's sitting, and are 11-2 since the big 3 trades in games he's missed.

Yeah, what Reggie was saying was ridiculous. I actually seen KG's bullshit as a weak point in the Celtics armour, and watching from the Spurs perspective, something that they could take advantage of in future matchups. Even as a winner, he can still be taken out of the game by more poised players and fall back into some selfish moments. Also, Dirk absolutely abused him any time he was matched up on him. Powe did a far better job, despite the fouls.

In regard to the OP, George was horrible. Pierce is fantastic fading away after a couple of dribbles. George didn't force him to do anything he didn't want to. Send him towards help, force him to spin and to keep him from the middle of the floor so some help can come, or make him dribble more before getting into his move. Pierce can be sloppy with the ball and to let him shoot a fadeaway isn't really forcing him to do anything he isn't comfortable with.

[mavs>spurs2]

If we have Baron Davis then Rondo doesn't go off, and we could have probably put him on Pierce for small stretches like in the 4th when he went off. Baron is too strong to get punked and let Pierce get any spot on the court he wants. Jason Kidd was a liability tonight on both ends of the floor and I don't give a fuck about what the apologists say. When a defensive minded point guard, who is considered to be the weak link of his team's starting lineup, goes off for 19 and 14 assists then it's time to re-evaluate the situation and make a trade. And most of those 14 assists didn't come from his passing ability, they were because he was able to get into the paint and make the defense collapse.

[Brickhouse]

Cuban loves Kidd, he isn't going to trade him this season. Kidd is the second best player in the league motherfuckers!

And Dick Breath is still on this team b/c he single-handedly led the Lakers to their titles. You bitches don't realize how important that championship pedigree is.

Cuban and Donnie will take this loss as a positive. The Mavs won this game, they were short-handed and took the Champs down to the wire. WE LOVE OUR TEAM.

[sribb43]

Not true!

They had Jason Kidd and JJ Barea on Pierce in the high iso play before George.

Pierce was already warmed up when George tried to guard him.

They were switching that pick n roll way too much...just go under the screen with Rondo, no sense in switching to create a bigger mistmatch with JJB or Kidd. If Rondo beats with jumpers then so be it but JJB/Kidd has no length on Pierce and he would just rise up over them

Oh ya and J-ho and Kidd going for steals on those passes to PP were ridiculous, it got them out of position and led to 2 fouls, one of which was a And1

[Killakobe81]

Yeah, what Reggie was saying was ridiculous. I actually seen KG's bullshit as a weak point in the Celtics armour, and watching from the Spurs perspective, something that they could take advantage of in future matchups. Even as a winner, he can still be taken out of the game by more poised players and fall back into some selfish moments. Also, Dirk absolutely abused him any time he was matched up on him. Powe did a far better job, despite the fouls.

In regard to the OP, George was horrible. Pierce is fantastic fading away after a couple of dribbles. George didn't force him to do anything he didn't want to. Send him towards help, force him to spin and to keep him from the middle of the floor so some help can come, or make him dribble more before getting into his move. Pierce can be sloppy with the ball and to let him shoot a fadeaway isn't really forcing him to do anything he isn't comfortable with.

Great post I agree but Dirk should of done like Odom stand up to KG than laugh it off Dirk looked nervous even though he abused KG a few times after Dirk wasnt the same part of it was tired legs but part of it was mental Dirk has to take a stand vs the wests and KG's or he will ALWAYS get punked

[endrity]

Great post I agree but Dirk should of done like Odom stand up to KG than laugh it off Dirk looked nervous even though he abused KG a few times after Dirk wasnt the same part of it was tired legs but part of it was mental Dirk has to take a stand vs the wests and KG's or he will ALWAYS get punked

I think that gets overblown man. Tim Thomas tried to punk him, he dropped 50 on his ass. West tried to punk him, and Dirk played splendind all series long, same last night. Just because he isn't a thug, doesn't mean Dirk doesn't compete. He plays on bad ankles and kness, doesn't say a thing when he is sick, and still delieveries as consistently as one can imagine. But no, Dirk will never fight on a court, and that's that. If you want star players to throw punches go watch hockey.

[sribb43]

without DG the Mavs have no shot against the Lakers.....bc according to Donnie DG knows Kobe's moves and could slow him down :lmao

[ginobili's bald spot]

I feel your pain mavs fans. We had to suffer with that piece of shit for years.

[Ghazi]

I feel your pain mavs fans. We had to suffer with that piece of shit for years.

Yeahhh 3 titles is really "suffering". get the fuck son.

[ginobili's bald spot]

With his shit play moron. Obviously we aren't the Mavs, we win championships. That goes without saying.

[dallaskd]

I feel your pain mavs fans. We had to suffer with that piece of shit for years.

He was a fan favorite in los angeles. You must be a new fan.

[ginobili's bald spot]

He was a fan favorite in los angeles. You must be a new fan.

Who's favorite? Certainly not mine. And I've been a Laker fan my entire life so guess again kid.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He was a fan favorite in los angeles.

I've never heard that.

[IronMexican]

Devean? Fan favorite? Not that I know of. During the 3-peat years, the fan favorites were Mark and Slava, if we're talking scrubs.