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Nbadan
03-09-2005, 02:50 AM
WASHINGTON - (KRT) - In an interview Tuesday, Vice President Dick Cheney said the Bush re-election victory provided a mandate "for the notion of personal retirement accounts" and that Democrats would pay a political price among younger voters if they blocked them.
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But he rejected the idea that private accounts would be dead politically if they're not approved this year.

"I wouldn't say that. We want to do everything we can to move it as soon as we can. But we're going to be here for four years. And this president's very tenacious. I've seen him operate before. And he's not a man who takes no for an answer," said Cheney, who is about to assume a more public role in the debate as the White House tries to build popular support for its proposal to restructure the huge entitlement program and offer individual retirement accounts.
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The vice president also suggested that Democrats, united now in opposition, are mishandling the issue. Cheney cited reports that some Democratic strategists, including former Clinton adviser James Carville, are warning that party members must do more than oppose private accounts - that they should more openly acknowledge the system's problems and offer their own alternative solutions.

Myrtle Beach Online (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/politics/11084357.htm)

Anyone remember this quote from Salon?


The latest volley came over the weekend when Republican campaign officials accused the Times Sunday magazine of fabricating a provocative quote from Bush in which he bragged -- behind closed doors and speaking to wealthy supporters -- that he would announce plans for "privatizing of Social Security" early next year, after his reelection. When Democrats jumped on the remark, dubbing it the "January surprise," Republican National Committee chairman Ed Gillespie dismissed the Times' work as "Kitty Kelley journalism," insisting Bush never uttered the phrase attributed to him. But the Times stands by the 8,300-word story by Ron Suskind, author of "The Price of Loyalty: George W. Bush, the White House and the Education of Paul O'Neill," a revealing account of the former secretary of the treasury published earlier this year.

Salon (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/19/nytimes_bush)

W laughed when Kerry brought it up in the debates and said, "We're not gonna mess with Social Security."

Clandestino
03-09-2005, 11:17 AM
ss needs to be changed... what do you propose??? just wait til it goes bankrupt???

CommanderMcBragg
03-09-2005, 11:38 AM
What I want to know is how long this republican held congress is going to allow the deficit to balloon until the US is bankrupt.

Bandit2981
03-09-2005, 01:48 PM
ss needs to be changed... what do you propose??? just wait til it goes bankrupt???
SS does not need to be overhauled like Bush wants, just tweaked minimally to steer it back in the right direction. Even non-partisan sources like factcheck.org and the GAO agree on this.

Clandestino
03-09-2005, 02:26 PM
SS does not need to be overhauled like Bush wants, just tweaked minimally to steer it back in the right direction. Even non-partisan sources like factcheck.org and the GAO agree on this.

that is not what alan greenspan thinks...

and what is your definition of tweaking? working til you are 75?

JohnnyMarzetti
03-09-2005, 02:46 PM
So now Greenspan is the ultimate authority on social security?

scott
03-09-2005, 08:01 PM
SS does not need to be overhauled like Bush wants, just tweaked minimally to steer it back in the right direction. Even non-partisan sources like factcheck.org and the GAO agree on this.

I'm not sure what fackcheck.org articles you are reading- because the ones they email me daily point out that the "tweaks" are all short term solutions that don't really address the problem.

SS does need to be overhauled if people like me ever hope to see a dime of the money I pumped in.

GoldToe
03-10-2005, 07:15 AM
The deficit needs to be overhauled as well.